True Faith 1987 video disc

I've heard the video disc of 'True Faith' mentioned on the discography pages, and a few people say they have it, but I was just wondering if I were to get hold of it, could it still be played these days? Was it one of those big 12" video discs that weren't all that popular in the late eighties, or is it some sort of 5" disc that can still be played on a DVD player?

Andy http://www.TrustNoOne.org.uk

Originally posted by The Happy One > Originally posted by Andrew Morrison> I've heard the video disc of 'True Faith' mentioned on the discography pages, and a few people say they have it, but I was just wondering if I were to get hold of it, could it still be played these days? Was it one of those big 12" video discs that weren't all that popular in the late eighties, or is it some sort of 5" disc that can still be played on a DVD player?> > Andy> http://www.TrustNoOne.org.uk

Andy...it was a 5 incher...my best friend (at the time) bought one, but had no means of playing the video...and from what I hear, it won't work in a DVD player, so I guess he bought himself one expensive beverage napkin...although it did have the audio tracks of the single...so it isn't completely worthless...

I wonder if Ken still has this thing? and if he's willing to part with it?

And the audio tracks will play normally on a regular CD player?

CD-Videos are actually closer to laserdiscs (the 12" videodiscs) than a DVD. The video on these is actually analog, not digital, so you won't be able to play them on a DVD player. They were often really neat to have for the music only tracks that were playable on any CD player.

Those old video discs are something technological I've never really looked into. How can the data be analogue? Is it split into two sections, one digital for the music, and the other magnetic like a hard disc or something? Does that mean they deteriorate over time like video tape?

I wonder if there's any equipment still around for playing these things back?

Andy.

Was it this true faith video disk that contained that dub-mix of Angel Dust called Evil Dust?

Aye, that's the laddie.

Originally posted by mr_nobbs Was it this true faith video disk that contained that dub-mix of Angel Dust called Evil Dust?

tf 12" remix tf 7" evildust

I've said it before....but:

True Faith 7" is wrongly labelled. It's actually an edited version of the Shep Pettibone remix. The only other place I've seen that is on this Qwest promo single:

Originally posted by Hélène's friend > Originally posted by mr_nobbs> Was it this true faith video disk that contained that dub-mix of Angel Dust called Evil Dust?

tf 12" remix tf 7" evildust

Evildust was darn near my only motivation to buy the pesky thing in the first place...as if we don't already own enough copies of TF!!!!

Originally posted by mr_nobbs Was it this true faith video disk that contained that dub-mix of Angel Dust called Evil Dust?

Facdv 183

1-True Faith Remix 12 inch (9:02) 2-Evil Dust (3:44) 3-True Faith 7 inch (4:06) 4. True Faith Video (PAL video, I can't play it)

Well, I've found a copy at an online record store, for less than it would have gone for on Ebay, and it's should be in the post tomorrow or Wednesday, so I wait with baited breath to find out:

• Which single edit of 'True Faith' is on there (7" mix/Edited Remix)

• If the video plays on either of my PC's DVD programs

• What sort of condition the single and sleeve are in (bloody good, I hope, for such a high price tag)

• If any of it plays in my regular CD players

Andy.

Originally posted by Andrew Morrison Those old video discs are something technological I've never really looked into. How can the data be analogue? Is it split into two sections, one digital for the music, and the other magnetic like a hard disc or something? Does that mean they deteriorate over time like video tape?I wonder if there's any equipment still around for playing these things back?Andy.

Yeah, I had a hard time believing that the video was analog(ue) at first too. There happens to be a web page on the subject:

http://www.access-one.com/rjn/laser/legacy/ld96.html

It's actually still an optical medium so there's no deterioration (in theory... see "laser rot"). It really gets tricky because they can combine a CD quality digital or DTS audio track with the analog(ue) video. Most of the later laserdisc players are capable of playing CDVs (not VCDs!) but I doubt you'll find any PC software to play them. You'll still have the PAL/NTSC issue as well. I know for a fact that the audio only tracks are playable in any CD player and they are usually what make the discs so desirable anyway.

Well, I've got this in the post today, it's gold, shiny and has two tracks I've not had on CD before (Evil Dust and True Faith Remix 7 Inch). As mentioned, the video doesn't play on my PC (it only registers the three audio tracks, not the video content), but I don't care, because it's rare, collectable, expensive and mine.

Never knew there was a 1987 True Faith CD single until last week, and now I have it!

Now I want to track down the Qwest 1987 True Faith CD promo - the only way to get the original 7" mix on CD, and the BM88 CDV! Andy.

... I bought this CD-V when it came out and I can confirm I've inserted it into anything it would go into since 1987 ... with no success. It smouldered slightly in a toaster around '92 but that's the best it got.

For what it's worth I believe Kodak's early laser video players (around 1990 'ish) for viewing sort of pics. through your tele was the machine to play this disc on.

Can't believe we all haven't got one.

Originally posted by Huntsman ... I bought this CD-V when it came out and I can confirm I've inserted it into anything it would go into since 1987 ... with no success. It smouldered slightly in a toaster around '92 but that's the best it got.For what it's worth I believe Kodak's early laser video players (around 1990 'ish) for viewing sort of pics. through your tele was the machine to play this disc on.Can't believe we all haven't got one.

I think that's correct. Sort of an early version of a laserdisc player. Although I've never seen it, my recollection is that it only showed stills from the TF video.

The video on this disc played on the now defunct Phillips cd-i players and first generation Phillips and Panasonic DVD players. The format is now dead, though all the latest DVD players will play VCD's which is something entirely different. There used to be a software package available for download from the Phillips website that allowed playback of the cd-v format on your computer but that has long since gone. The TF cd-v is well worth collecting all the same, a smashing addition to any collection.

Thanks Muffy - very well informed. I don't suppose you or anyone else has that software on their PC to email to me??

Cheers, Andy

Originally posted by Andrew Morrison Thanks Muffy - very well informed. I don't suppose you or anyone else has that software on their PC to email to me??Cheers,Andy

Sorry, haven't had it for years. Try snailing Phillips themselves, they may be able to help.

I feel so extradinary.....

Originally posted by General Muffy (NOOL Militant Wing) The video on this disc played on the now defunct Phillips cd-i players and first generation Phillips and Panasonic DVD players. The format is now dead, though all the latest DVD players will play VCD's which is something entirely different. There used to be a software package available for download from the Phillips website that allowed playback of the cd-v format on your computer but that has long since gone. The TF cd-v is well worth collecting all the same, a smashing addition to any collection.

While you are correct that the Philips CDi players could play CDVs back, there was never a DVD player that could. It wouldn't make sense to add all the additional circuitry to play discs that hadn't been made in a decade. Similarly, there was never a PC software package to play back the discs. Perhaps you are thinking of VCD playback software?