Cries & Whispers / Mesh - The official answer !!!!!

Straight from the horses (or Steve's at least) mouth :

CRIES AND WHISPERS

Steve :

Cries and Whispers is a great revelation because everyone thinks it's called Mesh. But it isn't. It was mislabelled in 1987 and nobody ever noticed.

On the new Retro web site.

So our Benny was right.

Steve could be lying.....

i knew benny was right all along!!!!

So did Benny ;)

This is like finding out there is no Easter Bunny.

I knew it....!!!!

Was there every any doubt!

So if Substance's Mesh is really Cries & Whispers, what's Cries& Whispers on the b-side of Everthing;'s Gone Green?

Originally posted by Brendan Coffey So if Substance's Mesh is really Cries & Whispers, what's Cries& Whispers on the b-side of Everthing;'s Gone Green?

EGG has got two B-sides: Mesh and Cries & Whispers. The titles are not in the same order on the sleeve and on the record label. The one really called Cries & Whispers is the one faetured on Substance, wrongly titled Mesh. The one that's really called Mesh is the one featured on FEP313 1981-1982 with the correct title.

Oh it's the last fookin' time !

Cries and Whispers has the first line "Below The Surface". Comprende ?

Originally posted by Benny's Cobweb Eyes Oh it's the last fookin' time !Cries and Whispers has the first line "Below The Surface". Comprende ?

You must pardon Brendan for asking this question again. It was his first post on this forum and I guess he wasn't aware of the discussion we've had for several weeks about this issue... But indeed, it should be the last time we discuss this.

So just run this past me once more.. ;)

Originally posted by ken colquhoun Steve could be lying.....

Wait a minute; I don´t get it. What about the FacBN CD-single release made in Austria (FBN8CD) released in 1990, wich features both songs? I dunno if they´re mislabeled on it. No disrespect to Mr. Morris, but yes, he could be lying or wrong about this case.

the mesh/cries and wispers cover-up continues!!!!!

It's like that film with Bill Murray where everything keeps repeating itself. What was it called?

Originally posted by Ben Aspinall It's like that film with Bill Murray where everything keeps repeating itself. What was it called?

Mesh, me think. :D

Originally posted by Tout est devenu vert > Originally posted by Ben Aspinall> It's like that film with Bill Murray where everything keeps repeating itself. What was it called?

Mesh, me think. :D

You mean Cries and Whispers, I think.

Originally posted by Patrick > Originally posted by Tout est devenu vert> > > > Originally posted by Ben Aspinall> > It's like that film with Bill Murray where everything keeps repeating itself. What was it called?>

Mesh, me think. :D

You mean Cries and Whispers, I think.

No, Mesh is right. Andie McDowell was in it too. Good movie.

Originally posted by Ben Aspinall > Originally posted by Patrick> > > > Originally posted by Tout est devenu vert> > > > > > > Originally posted by Ben Aspinall> > > It's like that film with Bill Murray where everything keeps repeating itself. What was it called?> > >

Mesh, me think. :D

You mean Cries and Whispers, I think.

No, Mesh is right. Andie McDowell was in it too. Good movie.

Are you serious? I just said Mesh to say something, but I had no clue what the title of this movie could be! No , you must be kidding...

Originally posted by Ben Aspinall It's like that film with Bill Murray where everything keeps repeating itself. What was it called?

Groundhog Day.

And Stephen Morris is mistaken.

Originally posted by Andy T > Originally posted by Ben Aspinall> It's like that film with Bill Murray where everything keeps repeating itself. What was it called?

Groundhog Day.

And Stephen Morris is mistaken.

..He is? So what's the true after all?

-----> Of Austria people got mixed up... If the UK label did a mix up in 1987, why would the Austria company think otherwise?

..'Cause they're all insane?

Yeah, (beside Steve) Benny's right. "Mesh" is on that EP of "Temptation", with "Mesh", & "Cries and Whispers". The real "Mesh" starts off with Hooky's bass, while "Cries" has a synthesizer fading in. "Mesh" is slower than "Cries", too...

I remember thinking about these tracks being mislabeled when I first bought and listened to these on vinyl...

Of all people, Steve should know! Spotnick...why not stick this on the FAQ section now we know the answer to this age old question?

I prefer Procession anyway.....

Apparently it was called Mesh at the cinema, but the rental version mistitled it Cries and Whispers.

The DVD should carry both versions, even though only the titles are different.

isn't the rental version a transfer of the original film festival print when it was exhibited under the working title Cries & Whispers?

This is all avoiding the real point, which is that we have yet another song not generally available on CD, for perverse reasons which we'll probably never understand.

Originally posted by mh This is all avoiding the real point, which is that we have yet another song not generally available on CD, for perverse reasons which we'll probably never understand.

But wasn't it on Substance? Isn't that where all the trouble started?

Originally posted by Tout est devenu vert > Originally posted by Ben Aspinall> > > > Originally posted by Patrick> > > > > > > Originally posted by Tout est devenu vert> > > > > > > > > > Originally posted by Ben Aspinall> > > > It's like that film with Bill Murray where everything keeps repeating itself. What was it called?> > > > > >

Mesh, me think. :D

You mean Cries and Whispers, I think.

No, Mesh is right. Andie McDowell was in it too. Good movie.

Are you serious? I just said Mesh to say something, but I had no clue what the title of this movie could be! No , you must be kidding...

Groundhog Day?

Originally posted by Zebulahn > Originally posted by Tout est devenu vert> > > > Originally posted by Ben Aspinall> > > > > > > Originally posted by Patrick> > > > > > > > > > Originally posted by Tout est devenu vert> > > > > > > > > > > > > Originally posted by Ben Aspinall> > > > > It's like that film with Bill Murray where everything keeps repeating itself. What was it called?> > > > > > > > > >

Mesh, me think. :D

You mean Cries and Whispers, I think.

No, Mesh is right. Andie McDowell was in it too. Good movie.

Are you serious? I just said Mesh to say something, but I had no clue what the title of this movie could be! No , you must be kidding...

Groundhog Day?

Or maybe it was Sex, Lies, and Videotape. Or Four Weddings and a Funeral. She was in those too, wasn't she?