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Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by David Molyneux> Some great shows there Paul.> > The Leeds gig was a cracker. In the middle of the shopping centre? and I believe we had some snow at the time. I actually spent the night in Manchester before thumbing it down to the Micheal Sobel Centre gig in Finsbury Park. The Finsbury Park gig was the last time I ever spoke with Slim. Does anyone remember him and Dave 'racer' pils???> > DM

And remember the Youth? And the 'Youth Youth Youth' chant that went up at gigs. They were a tasty bunch of fellas. Lots of tattoos of New Order in there too. Actually, mentioned a lad called Simon earlier in this thread cos we ran into him in Sweden last year and he'd done the German stuff in 84 and he had a New Order tattoo too - 'Perfect Kiss' across the top of his arm.

Is that the massive guy, about 6'6" or so, now gonna be late 30s and came from out Nottingham way I think. He'd got a couple of NO tattoos.

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god yes i remember that huge guy.... every gig i attended in the mid 80s he was there...and jarvo yes whatever the weather he always wore shorts....fcuk me it seems like yesterday....

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Originally posted by Benny's Cobweb Eyes Is that the massive guy, about 6'6" or so, now gonna be late 30s and came from out Nottingham way I think. He'd got a couple of NO tattoos.

Simon's not the massive guy. Well, actually no, he was massive, but not quite THAT big. Simon was in a band called Portion Control (confess I'd never heard of 'em but Johnny G and Gordie had both seen 'em live).. Lives in Sweden now, we met him over there. ..

He invaded the stage at Hammersmith Palais apparently - I can't remember that, unless it was in the encore which I didn't see - and got one almighty kicking off the bouncers for his troubles.

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Originally posted by David Molyneux Some great shows there Paul.The Leeds gig was a cracker. In the middle of the shopping centre? and I believe we had some snow at the time. I actually spent the night in Manchester before thumbing it down to the Micheal Sobel Centre gig in Finsbury Park. The Finsbury Park gig was the last time I ever spoke with Slim. Does anyone remember him and Dave 'racer' pils???The Macclesfield show was in a badminton court wasn't it?!?! I do remember being stuck on the train station all night with a couple from Liverpool. We kept in touch for years afterwards. Funny how you meet people sometimes.DM

yes...the merrion centre in leeds was/is a shopping centre...and the tiffs club was somewhere in the middle of it... the leisure centre gig at macc still had the badminton markings on the floor...so for one night only it was converted for a heaving mass of maniacs to get crushed to near death...

during that time..a year later i think...did you manage to get to the sheff roxy gig??...the barry noble club on top of a multi-storey car park...what a venue that was...

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I listen to "Mesh" everyday {know what I mean?}.

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Originally posted by David Molyneux '85-'86?'85 is pretty much a blur I am afraid but I definately saw the band on a few occasions. I do vaguely remember seeing them at the in Newcastle, plus I believe there was at least one show at that ballroom place in Birmigham? Also, Kentish Town was another (bumped into Jon Marsh for the last time). There was probably a crap load more I went to but I simply can't remember! Clues anyone!?!Other people I do remember are the male nurse from Blackpool who used to live in London, the crazy little bloke from Southampton, the mad geezer from Windsor with New Order tatoos!, and Kirk and his little mate from west London. At least some of it is coming back!DM

I think there were 3 shows at the Tower Ballroom possibly '83, '85 and '86 of which I went to the latter 2. How can you forget the palm trees in the middle of the dance floor - probably my favourite ever venue!

I 've just been totting up my amount of gigs and its 22 which is alot less than I thought. The nearest being Finsbury Park (a 5 mins walk from the flat) last summer and the furthest Dusseldorf in December 1987 - god that was cold.

Some great memories in this thread - I'd completely forgotten about the guy in the shorts and the beard. I remember seeing him for the first time at one of the Hacienda gigs.

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Originally posted by Mickey Way I think there were 3 shows at the Tower Ballroom possibly '83, '85 and '86 of which I went to the latter 2. How can you forget the palm trees in the middle of the dance floor - probably my favourite ever venue!

Ah, the fake plastic trees ! Has to be my favourite venue as well, and is the only venue I've seen them three times in (I should have gone to more than one Brixton gig in 2001 !!)

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I always enjoyed the gigs at the Ballroom in Birmingham (or was it actually called Edgbaston?) Next to a river? The show at the Powerhouse in the same city was superb too. Then again, back then they were all pretty special, in their own way.

DM

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Leeds Tiffs was my first time,don't remember much except worrying i wouldn't get in coz i was under 18.Sheff uni(octagon?) was a cracking gig.The Roxy was in 87 and I seem to remember almost leaving coz no-one expected an encore and we got "do the ostrich".'86 Liverpool getting caught in the rush from the bar to the hall as TPK started everyone thought New Order would be on last.G-mex"tenth summer" a favourite if only for Mac singing Ceremony.Heady Days.

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Originally posted by David Molyneux I always enjoyed the gigs at the Ballroom in Birmingham (or was it actually called Edgbaston?) Next to a river? The show at the Powerhouse in the same city was superb too. Then again, back then they were all pretty special, in their own way.DM

The Tower Ballroom was actually above part of Edgbaston Reservoir. Something about the apparent unsuitability of the venue made it a far better choice of venue - sure, The Powerhouse was better suited to gigs, but I always enjoyed the Tower Ballroom. And it was only half an hour from home :)

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Originally posted by Pizda leeds Tiffs was my first time,don't remember much except worrying i wouldn't get in coz i was under 18..

One of the better comments I've read here. NO in the 80's was a mare cos you didn't know if you were/weren't gonna get in due to age restrictions (bit like being served in a bar!). Met an Ameican lad for Apollo 98 and amazed me to hear all the gigs he did when he was 12 or 13 - doesn't quite ring true for me!!

Pizda, if you did US 93 then some of us must know people you know from those gigs - big bunch of Slough and Manc lads I know what were there... Meet any Brits??

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There was a group from manc i believe,I know one of them as alex though I believe you call him stash.He got andy robinson to get me on the guest list for Boston and NY.One of the other guys i think turns up in Neworderstory stood next to barney when he accuses wilson of ruining his career. Saw most of them again at reading 98 and alex in the pub at the second appollo gig in 01.

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As an aside I do remember an obnoxious barman at the greatwoods gig refusing to serve me coz i had neither a US drivers licence(license!) or a US passport.Finally got a beer by doing the all american thing and complaining to his superior.Also you couldn't buy rounds unless you all went up together to show your ID.This wasn't at every gig but i do recall it happening.

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Originally posted by Pizda There was a group from manc i believe,I know one of them as alex though I believe you call him stash.He got andy robinson to get me on the guest list for Boston and NY.One of the other guys i think turns up in Neworderstory stood next to barney when he accuses wilson of ruining his career.Saw most of them again at reading 98 and alex in the pub at the second appollo gig in 01.

Yeah, Alex Staszko - he got his name on Retro too, lucky bugger. He's been guesting us all summer, which has been a result.

Some of the 93 gigs were 'dry' weren't they? I know two lads from Slough who went too and used to get w*nkered before going into the venues, after the first gig they turned up at wasn't serving ale.

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I only did four,toronto,ny,washington and boston.I think there were only another four gigs on that tour which quite possibly could've been dry(knowing the states).By the way do you remember a prospective gig in 87? Plymouth Rocks at PAFC's ground,had tickets but then it got pulled,seem to remember the banshees and spear of destiny were also on the bill,would have made an interesting day.

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Originally posted by Pizda I only did four,toronto,ny,washington and boston.I think there were only another four gigs on that tour which quite possibly could've been dry(knowing the states).By the way do you remember a prospective gig in 87? Plymouth Rocks at PAFC's ground,had tickets but then it got pulled,seem to remember the banshees and spear of destiny were also on the bill,would have made an interesting day.

Yeah, promoter went bust didn't they? Never got my money back for that one. New Order were only about 7th on the bill though - and were due on about 2 in the afternoon or something!!!

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lost my cash on that as well,as far as new order live letdowns thats gotta take the biscuit.

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Originally posted by Pizda As an aside I do remember an obnoxious barman at the greatwoods gig refusing to serve me coz i had neither a US drivers licence(license!) or a US passport.Finally got a beer by doing the all american thing and complaining to his superior.Also you couldn't buy rounds unless you all went up together to show your ID.This wasn't at every gig but i do recall it happening.

Too right. Their protection against under age drinking is ridiculous, particularly when you consider how piss easy it is to get blow in the states.

We had to go through this same palaver at some of the Area:One gigs. Mountain View, they checked everyones ID on the way in to the bar - there was only one entrance - & still the barman had to have us point out to him exactly who the drinks were for before he'd pour them. Fooking pathetic.

Didn't stop us getting c*nted though ;)

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Originally posted by Pizda There was a group from manc i believe,I know one of them as alex though I believe you call him stash.He got andy robinson to get me on the guest list for Boston and NY.One of the other guys i think turns up in Neworderstory stood next to barney when he accuses wilson of ruining his career.Saw most of them again at reading 98 and alex in the pub at the second appollo gig in 01.

Would that be the Apsley Cottage Frank?, there was a whole bunch of us in there before the gig, including Mr Jarvis.

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Aye,that's the one.Most convenient pub-concert hall location.Could that be a new thread/poll?

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Originally posted by David Molyneux Hi,I never paid once for a ticket. Barney stuck me on the guest list for the first show then once the three of us hit Tampa Jon Scott had a work with Hooky (and despite this!) we were then on the list for the respective shows in Gainsville, Atlanta and New Orleans.The last time I saw Jon was in our hotel room in New Orleans and he was about to drive all the way back to Miami.DM

I didn't do too bad a job did I Dave? - what about spraying "Guns 'n' Roses" over the walls at the Gainesville Holiday Inn or you throwing up on that waitresses floor - or indeed me crashing that blonde birds VW Bug at 4 in the morning or blah, blah, blah...or the worst of all - YOU getting of with that gal in Atlanta and dropping your passport in the back of her car - only realising this half way to New Orleans the next day - oops!

Nostalgia ain't what it used to be...

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What were those bloody cocktails you introduced me to anyway? Melonball or something. Became a theme for the whole tour experience.

I was in the process of trying to find Molly's house by 'borrowing' a map in the Circle K when I noticed a police car had pulled up outside and the female officer was shining her pencil torch first over our delightfully decorated white AVIS rental car, then turning her attention to the other crumpled wreck which had wriggled into the back seat!

I had visions of the both of us in orange boiler suits humming Mr Disco in solitary confinement but thankfully she shared a good sense of humour and actually helped me find the way to Molly's house.

DM PS Was that club after the show in Miami top or what?!

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Originally posted by Al Jarvis > Originally posted by Pizda> By the way do you remember a prospective gig in 87? Plymouth Rocks at PAFC's ground,had tickets but then it got pulled,seem to remember the banshees and spear of destiny were also on the bill,would have made an interesting day.

Yeah, promoter went bust didn't they? Never got my money back for that one. New Order were only about 7th on the bill though - and were due on about 2 in the afternoon or something!!!

I'd forgotten that one ! Yes, we never got a refund either.

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i havent seen them because when ever i wnguire abput tickets they sold out:cry:

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Originally posted by Lee Baines i havent seen them because when ever i wnguire abput tickets they sold out:cry:

Now now Lee, I've told you before about wnguiring. It never gets you anywhere. :evil4:

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Oh, lots

Apollo 98, Reading 98, Manc 98, Ally Pally 98, Brixton x 3 2001, Finsbury 2002 + Monaco : Wulfrun 97, Stoke 98, Reading 98.

Quite a few really, but I'm just a slacker really - :)

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Originally posted by mark reed Quite a few really, but I'm just a slacker really - :)

Really?

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Originally posted by Known Pleasures > Originally posted by Lee Baines> i havent seen them because when ever i wnguire abput tickets they sold out:cry:

Now now Lee, I've told you before about wnguiring. It never gets you anywhere. :evil4:

hahaha :laugh:

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Why has this thread been resurrected?

Let. It. Lie.

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