The Worst New Order Song: Top 5

i'm voting for we all stand, which i think i did before???

"Shellshock".

"we all stand" - for ruining Power Corruption and Lies....and my life

Seeing as WIM never made the cut I'll go for Shellshock which actually made me cringe the first time I heard it. Unbelievably it was then followed by the almost equally poor SOTN.

"rock the shack, rock the shack, rock the shaccccckkkkkkk"

more like rock the cack.

SOTN and Rock the shack (and Slow Jam!) are outpourings of lyrical genius next to Chemical.

Shellshock=shit!

We All Stand - 5:14 of my life wasted!

:D:D:D:D:D anita

State of Nation worst song? You're crazy!!!

Originally posted by Elázaro&nbspMoses Mokrabe State of Nation worst song?You're crazy!!!

Yes I am crazy = me voting for SOTN as worst song

"State of the Nation" makes me wonder what they were thinking. Sometimes it makes me want to cry, but mostly, it's just vomitous.

I can see why some of those other songs might be hated, but honestly, what's so especially bad about "Chemical"? It's not their best song, but I don't think it's as atrocious as "Liar".

Its a tough one but I can't bring myself to vote. I always thought that SOTN and Shellshock were always quite good live.

I am abstaining, and shall make an impassioned plea to my fellow travellers across the world to do likewise.

We All Stand, State of the Nation and Shellshock may not be everyone's favourite songs, but they were bloody good live, particularly We All Stand, which isn't done justice by the album version.

Agree, Benny. I think We All Stand is great on the '82 Peel Session.

should't it be "BOTTOM 5", not "TOP 5"?

Chemical ... i'm not sure why everybody disses this track, because of the harsher techno noise part of it i guess, thats the only part of it i like... the song structure quickly waters down to the same formula that over half the songs on Republic share... Spooky does the same exact thing... I would have liked more of a harsher techno song to show some younger energy... i thought it stood out from the blander songs around it on Republic

Rock The Shack... i always get the impression that some people dislike this song only because of the guitars which seems like a stupid reason... the title seems so stupid because it seems kinda serious... like Barney saying "were going to switch gears now people, and really ROCK this shack! ... whooo!... let's ROCK THE SHACK... WHOOO!"

State of the Nation ... the lyrics seem juvenile and forced, and the female backing vocals are totally inappropiate and unenjoyable, but the song has some energy, they even used the bassline again... but it is well deserving of the title ... an inappropriate single with huge missteps

Shellshock... i'm sorry but this track is an utter cluttered trebly mess, with everything and everyone throwing something into the mix without any real style, with forced rushed lyrics (i can just imagine Barney saying at 4AM "c'mon... what the fuck rhymes with... ?!?!")... i guess it is kind of endearing in a Pug dog type of way, fun to sing along with

We All Stand ... the PC&L's version is kinda of a downer (and they are right, the peel session is much better), but they obviously found it interesting, give it points for at least experimenting and having fun... like 586 too on PC&L's

Also voted for SOTN of that lot; just listened to it today while driving around, and found myself fast forwarding the tape.

state of the nation...all the way.:dead:

I'm not voting for any of them. Although the lyrics may sound like crap, I like all five of them musically.

State

I voted for State of The Nation as I do beleive it to be the worst new order track ever, Shellshock has better lyrics and if you take away the cheesy over the top 80s production it isnt that bad(Arrogants cover anyone??) Chemical isn't a bad track in my opinion and neither is rock the shack.

We All Stand, great live if PFD is anything to go by.

cheers ALEX

Shellshock is a good New Order song. Many bands would like to compose it...but New Order are not a normal band, I know.

SOTN has, more or less, the same problem. One fact only: SOTN is worst than Shellshock, specially in lyrics and backing vocals.

We all stand....the only bad song in an extraordinary album.

Rock the Shack...uff.

Chemical....more uff.

My vote goes DEFINITELY to ROCK THE SHACK.

I live in Australia and "state of the nation" was considered so bad that it was made a b-side to "bizarre love triangle", that's how bad it was(but i still like it).

I wish I had more than one vote to cast against We All Stand.

I voted again for state of the nation because I love rock the shack

i'm not voting on this. there all ok songs, sotn is a good tune.

I'm with all those who aren't voting. I dont think anyone should really complain about the lyrics too much as they have never been a strong point of New Order.

what the hey, chemical.

Originally posted by a very small boy I'm with all those who aren't voting. I dont think anyone should really complain about the lyrics too much as they have never been a strong point of New Order.

"And this is how it feels to be On the payroll company. Your every scene is in the round, We don't need to hang around."

These lyrics go from "not a strong point" to serious interference with listening pleasure.

Chemical, simple and plain.

state of the nation is horrible

We All Stand. Bleargh.

If your asking me - as I think you are - I am not to fond of 'We All Stand - I would usually try and scan past the song on the tape but because New Order knew I (and others) would do that - they did not enough dead space between it and a good one 'the Village' so you get screwed twice! That is of course if you're asking me! : - )

no i'm not choosing. sotn is a good song that kicks off great and has great whirling guitars and synths. so i dont agree with it, my least fav is prob we all stand but i still like it.

I can see the tomatoes flying now! :D

Let's just say that I would only take RTS off the list...if Bobby Gillespie never sung on that song! I had to vote for RTS! I hate that song! And the only reason I hate that song is because Bobby Gillespie sings on it! And that fucker's not even singing...he's speaking/shouting, like Bob *fucking* Dylan (whom I don't like as well)! Granted, Barney and Hooky have had to shout/speak their share of songs over the years, but Gillespie's voice is just shrill and irritating to me.

Yes, the other songs aren't great...but they aren't bad either. I liked SOTN 5,000 times more than Shellshock because SOTN has a more distinctive musical sound than Shellshock. NO was even pressured to make the song, and the film's producer (or whatever) didn't even like it after all!

Any way, this is just my opinion...and I know a lot of you like RTS and have your reasons, that's fine.

Everything about RTS sounds great...except Bobby Gillespie.

Shit! I gave Chemical my vote and totally forgot about Shellshock!!!

And I do love Rock The Shack.

I like We All Stand i think its a moving song.

state of the nation!

We All Stand. I bought PCL recently and it just ruined the experience of an otherwise perfect album for me.

Omg, how can anyone hate Rock the Shack! Bobby gillespie is so good, primal scream are the second best band to new order! I can understand that its probs not to some of your tastes, but dont slate them. im not voting as they all have a hint of genius to them.

Although State of the Nation seems to be widely disliked (even NO themselves seem to ignore it these days) I have great memories of it. I saw NO several times around 1985/86 when they often opened their gigs with SOTN and it always went down a storm. I seem to remember that also around this time the band would often come on stage to the title music from the film 'The Vikings'. I think this would make an excellent addition to the audio files. It used to send the crowd wild. When it started you knew NO were about to come on.

Well...obviously, I'm not a gigging professional or anything of the sort. But I did study vocal performance for about 8 years, and I have been singing since I was 6 or 7...so that's the vantage point I am coming from. Hell, even Barney and Hooky have grated on my ears on a couple of tracks, but I still love the music of NO/JD et al. Maybe it's because I haven't given much of a chance to Gillespie & Co. But then again, I won't give half an asses chance to listen to a band like Korn or Linkin Park (as I'm just not into that sound). Any way...just my two cents.

Strange how our preferences are divided. In the 'best NO song' competition I remember myself replying: where is State of the nation? State is one of my all time favorites, not only compared to NO songs but to ANY song. The vinyl 12inch State/Shame is one of my best buys ever. Whatever... Reading all the odds against State I'm wondering if I'm in the right forum here.

Regards, Erwin

SOTN - due to them fcukers at London sticking it onto the end of Brotherhood

surely Slow Jam is the worst...

i voted for RTS...i would rather hear Chemical and Shellshock on repeat than 2 minutes of RTS...please NewOrder, no more collaborations on your albums.

the version of we all stand on "pumped full of drugs" is pretty damn good.

We All Stand, but the worst in my view is Liar, by miles. We All Stand just sounds bizarre, Liar is criminal in how thoroughly pathetic it was. Absolutely Putrid, lyrically, musically, vocally, pure rubish.

Oh, such a repetition of ideas...

I voted for "We All Stand", but I wouldn't call those songs as the "worst" ones, I'd call them "weirdest", as I did when I threw out a topic like this in the portuguese forum. I had cast "We All Stand", "Denial", "Chemical", "The Village" and "Run Wild". These ones are really weird (not Weirdo!), not to call'em boring. But I don't think worst as a good nomination.

Thanx

Tough list to chose from. I actually like the songs on the list. Shellshock was the choice only because it's the song i like the least, but i don't think it's crap.

I don't like Chemical because I don't like the feeling throughout Republic as a whole. But I'll defend SOTN every step of the way.