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Originally posted by a very small boy I'm with all those who aren't voting. I dont think anyone should really complain about the lyrics too much as they have never been a strong point of New Order.
"And this is how it feels to be On the payroll company. Your every scene is in the round, We don't need to hang around."
These lyrics go from "not a strong point" to serious interference with listening pleasure.
Well...I'm going to have to go with SOTN...
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If your asking me - as I think you are - I am not to fond of 'We All Stand - I would usually try and scan past the song on the tape but because New Order knew I (and others) would do that - they did not enough dead space between it and a good one 'the Village' so you get screwed twice! That is of course if you're asking me! : - )
Alright.. I'll let this one go.
Seems like State of the Nation took the lead.. and well, I'm surprised We All Stand didn't end up with this title.. not that I don't like the song, but because it won last round.
no i'm not choosing. sotn is a good song that kicks off great and has great whirling guitars and synths. so i dont agree with it, my least fav is prob we all stand but i still like it.
I can see the tomatoes flying now! :D
Let's just say that I would only take RTS off the list...if Bobby Gillespie never sung on that song! I had to vote for RTS! I hate that song! And the only reason I hate that song is because Bobby Gillespie sings on it! And that fucker's not even singing...he's speaking/shouting, like Bob *fucking* Dylan (whom I don't like as well)! Granted, Barney and Hooky have had to shout/speak their share of songs over the years, but Gillespie's voice is just shrill and irritating to me.
Yes, the other songs aren't great...but they aren't bad either. I liked SOTN 5,000 times more than Shellshock because SOTN has a more distinctive musical sound than Shellshock. NO was even pressured to make the song, and the film's producer (or whatever) didn't even like it after all!
Any way, this is just my opinion...and I know a lot of you like RTS and have your reasons, that's fine.
Everything about RTS sounds great...except Bobby Gillespie. 
Shit! I gave Chemical my vote and totally forgot about Shellshock!!!
And I do love Rock The Shack.
We All Stand. I bought PCL recently and it just ruined the experience of an otherwise perfect album for me.
Omg, how can anyone hate Rock the Shack! Bobby gillespie is so good, primal scream are the second best band to new order! I can understand that its probs not to some of your tastes, but dont slate them. im not voting as they all have a hint of genius to them.
Although State of the Nation seems to be widely disliked (even NO themselves seem to ignore it these days) I have great memories of it. I saw NO several times around 1985/86 when they often opened their gigs with SOTN and it always went down a storm. I seem to remember that also around this time the band would often come on stage to the title music from the film 'The Vikings'. I think this would make an excellent addition to the audio files. It used to send the crowd wild. When it started you knew NO were about to come on.
Well...obviously, I'm not a gigging professional or anything of the sort. But I did study vocal performance for about 8 years, and I have been singing since I was 6 or 7...so that's the vantage point I am coming from. Hell, even Barney and Hooky have grated on my ears on a couple of tracks, but I still love the music of NO/JD et al. Maybe it's because I haven't given much of a chance to Gillespie & Co. But then again, I won't give half an asses chance to listen to a band like Korn or Linkin Park (as I'm just not into that sound). Any way...just my two cents.
Strange how our preferences are divided. In the 'best NO song' competition I remember myself replying: where is State of the nation? State is one of my all time favorites, not only compared to NO songs but to ANY song. The vinyl 12inch State/Shame is one of my best buys ever. Whatever... Reading all the odds against State I'm wondering if I'm in the right forum here.
Regards, Erwin
surely Slow Jam is the worst...
i voted for RTS...i would rather hear Chemical and Shellshock on repeat than 2 minutes of RTS...please NewOrder, no more collaborations on your albums.
We All Stand, but the worst in my view is Liar, by miles. We All Stand just sounds bizarre, Liar is criminal in how thoroughly pathetic it was. Absolutely Putrid, lyrically, musically, vocally, pure rubish.
Oh, such a repetition of ideas...
I voted for "We All Stand", but I wouldn't call those songs as the "worst" ones, I'd call them "weirdest", as I did when I threw out a topic like this in the portuguese forum. I had cast "We All Stand", "Denial", "Chemical", "The Village" and "Run Wild". These ones are really weird (not Weirdo!), not to call'em boring. But I don't think worst as a good nomination.
Thanx
Tough list to chose from. I actually like the songs on the list. Shellshock was the choice only because it's the song i like the least, but i don't think it's crap.
I don't like Chemical because I don't like the feeling throughout Republic as a whole. But I'll defend SOTN every step of the way.
