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5 Apr 2003, 16:19

Hi everyone,

I´d like to know how all you became Joy Division or New Order fans.

This is my story :

I´ve got a cousin who´s 3 years older than me.He used to listen all 80´s stuff: smiths,depeche mode and one band which called my attention because of a double white album cover written : New Order - Substance 1987.It was 1988 and I was 13 years old. The first song I listened was Perfect Kiss, "what a fuc...ing marvellous song!!!" I said. Then I became sick for New Order and wanted to buy all their records.One year later I was introduced to Joy Division,he said :"this is the band before New Order".I thought he was joking with me cause they sounded completely different.It was Unknown Pleasures album.And a song called my attention a lot,it was : she´s lost control. This song changed my oppinion about music and my eletronic music influences sank. Now I love both of them but Joy division is very special to me.Joy division and Ian Curtis are something I´ll never forget. And this is one end.

5 Apr 2003, 21:32

my story is a little unusual, I guess. I was always a music fanatic since a very young age. by the time I was thirteen I was deeply into "prog rock". Bands such as Yes, Genesis ( when peter gabriel was the singer), King crimson and rush, as well as many others, most notably hawkwind and marrillion, got me fired up about music. I was astonished that anyone could play an instrument that well. And the lyrics were so much more than the crap that I heard on the radio. They actually meant something! About 1987 a girl I was dating made me a mixed tape of some stuff she was starting to get into. Some of these bands I knew. Smiths, the cure and echo and the bunnymen. a song on side one really grabbed me, it was called True faith. On side two was a song that really attacked me emotionally, it was called She's lost control. Oddly enough, I was drawn to these two songs in particular, out of all the songs on that cassette, even though I was completely unaware that these two bands were related in in any way. Being the anal retentive music obsessive that I am, I was soon well educated,and have been a huge fan of both bands ever since. My wife actually thinks my obsession may be clinical...

5 Apr 2003, 21:45

A friend of mine, who was able to drive to Portland and buy import records, came back with this little ol' 45 called Transmission, which I taped off of him and played to death. Luckily for me, Rough Trade opened up a US mail-order operation a year or so later, and I was able to buy most of the Factory JD output direct from them (plus, they sent me the Komakino flexi free of charge, as well as some JD badges).

5 Apr 2003, 23:34

Altough it's written in my profile...

In 1988 (I think), I won a contest at a radio station to get 5 tapes/LP for free, I wasn't aware of New Order, but I did buy the Bright Lights, Big City soundtrack only for True Faith, so I was aware of that song...

In 1990, I met Sébastien (co-Webmaster here) and he introduced me to New Order because it was his passion (with Depeche Mode for both of us), he made me a mix tape which looked like this (not really in order, I don't remember):

In A Lonely Place True Faith (Shep Pettibone Remix) Blue Monday Round & Round (12" Extended Version) Bizarre Love Triangle (Shep Pettibone Remix) Electronic - Getting Away With It (Full Length Version) Subculture (Substance Version) State of the Nation The Perfect Kiss

I'm quite sure all of those were in there, but there are a few missing.. I had a hard time liking In A Lonely Place for sure.. but the more I was listening to this tape, the more I liked it, even though my listening was limited to BLT/TF/R&R/GAWI at the beginning.. it did extend to most track.

Hence I finally bought Substance, which is not a cheap CD for a teenager.. and I did listen to this album very very often, altough I had a problem to like the early tracks at first, I can say I enjoyed them all..

So I bought Electronic, did enjoy this, now I started to get the back catalogue, Technique first, I even managed to get Low-Life before Sebastien did, I remembered being shocked when I heard the album version of Subculture for the first time.. I bought World In Motion :lol: , Brotherhood. I bought Movement in Toronto in 1993 when I went to see them live, so I bought it after Republic (not very available CD I must say, thanks to the Internet now, you can get anything)

I also bought all the singles I managed to find, Substance 1989, NewOrderStory, etc.. and the rest is history.

Sure I liked them, but like all other music, usually it cycles, then it comes back later.. I must say it didn't cycle since I'm managing NewOrderOnline, because it's forcing me to keep in touch and I'm stuck with people that like the band more than I do.

Being French, lyrics are not natural to me, for the first 10-12 years of my life, I was listening to english music without knowing english, so understanding the lyrics was never important, so it's not why I like New Order, it's because of their sound and melodies..

I think it's very rare in our days that a band is composed of 3 musical geniuses (Ian Curtis, Bernard Sumner and Peter Hook), if I remember right, the only other band I know is.. The Beatles! With all due respect to Steve & Gillian, they are good at composing music together, but The Other Two project didn't show bits of genius, like all other side projects did, but they are better all together.

And that's mostly it.. New Order never gets played here beside the usual suspects (BLT, Blue Monday and True Faith), Regret did manage to get Air Play, and Crystal played on the anglophone rock radio here, but other that that.. it was the first time I managed to like a band outside of radio standars, and believe me, it opened my eyes to a whole new world in musical taste. :clap:

So, where's the *BORING* smiley?

:lame:

:lol:

6 Apr 2003, 01:47

Senior year of HS... I was driving everyone to Chick Fil'A for lunch. One of my best friends had the Substance tape, which he brought since my car only had a tape deck. He played Blue Monday, and we all listened very closely. What even hit me harder was the next track, Confusion (I didn't know what it was called then). These two songs embedded themselves in my head and after a month or so, I needed to have the CD. By some magical stroke of luck (god?), I found Substance at my local Goodwill for 6 bucks. I played it, and then played it again. And played it at least once a day for a month after that.

Fuck that's a good record, isn't it?!

6 Apr 2003, 05:01

As a young 'un I used to lie in bed listening to John Peel (legendary Brit DJ). One of the features of his programmes was the sessions from emerging bands and JD did two sessions for him. The combination of the music and the name made an impression. I can remember that on more than one occasion I was woken up by the strangely beautiful synth sounds of LWTUA. Unfortunately I must have nodded off when John announced that Ian had died.

It was weird liking a band that none of my mates had heard of and growing up in a small town meant I couldn't get hold of the records. Then I went on a school exchange visit and when I got back LWTUA had charted. I then found out that no sooner had I found my band, I had lost them.

But just a few months later I was in my local record shop arguing with the shop assistant that there was a band called New Order, they did have a single called Ceremony and it was in the chart. Luckily the manager heard me and found the little square of bronze loveliness.

I was sorted.

6 Apr 2003, 06:19

It all started for me when i sang backing vocals on technique.

6 Apr 2003, 06:42

One friend gave me a copy of Technique. I listened to it (and loved it), then I bought Low-Life, then Substance. That was definitive...with Ceremony, Temptation, True Faith and EGG I became a NO fan. Til' today

6 Apr 2003, 09:19

touched / from safety to where

Am I fuck gonna try and explain it again......we'd be here all year;)