Just curious, in the Vanishing Point lyrics, what does "Whistle down the wind" -as in And they gave him away Like in "Whistle down the wind" refer to, and what significance (if any) does it have to the band ?
"Whistle down the wind"
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Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak Just curious, in the Vanishing Point lyrics, what does "Whistle down the wind"-as in And they gave him away Like in "Whistle down the wind"refer to, and what significance (if any) does it have to the band ?
The end of VP pays homage to Ian i believe....
Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak Just curious, in the Vanishing Point lyrics, what does "Whistle down the wind"-as in And they gave him away Like in "Whistle down the wind"refer to, and what significance (if any) does it have to the band ?
An excellent film with HAYLEY MILLS in.Some kids find an escaped prisoner in a barn and when they ask him who he is...he says JESUS CHRIST (exclamation ONLY).They then take him food and think he is the son of GOD.Brilliant film and he is just commenting how YOU CAN'T RUN AWAY (escape) like in WHISTLE DOWN THE WIND..child innonence and MANS cunning etc.Get my drift!:D
Originally posted by Rocket Mick The kids actually tell the POLICE where he is hiding in the end of the film DON.
Unreal!! ![]()
I thought he said "like Ian whistled down the wind, by the look on his face he never gave it up..." hence it sounds like tribute is being paid to Ian Curtis.
Originally posted by DoN > Originally posted by Rocket Mick> The kids actually tell the POLICE where he is hiding in the end of the film DON.
Unreal!! ![]()
I thought he said "like Ian whistled down the wind, by the look on his face he never gave it up..." hence it sounds like tribute is being paid to Ian Curtis.
You SHOULD really read more and watch CLASSIC films DON!:D
Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by DoN> > > > Originally posted by Rocket Mick> > The kids actually tell the POLICE where he is hiding in the end of the film DON.
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Unreal!! ![]()
I thought he said "like Ian whistled down the wind, by the look on his face he never gave it up..." hence it sounds like tribute is being paid to Ian Curtis.
You SHOULD really read more and watch CLASSIC films DON!:D
Fook that for a game of soldiers!!!
I still like my version of VP more :D
Originally posted by DoN > Originally posted by Rocket Mick> > > > Originally posted by DoN> > > > > > > Originally posted by Rocket Mick> > > The kids actually tell the POLICE where he is hiding in the end of the film DON.
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Unreal!! ![]()
I thought he said "like Ian whistled down the wind, by the look on his face he never gave it up..." hence it sounds like tribute is being paid to Ian Curtis.
You SHOULD really read more and watch CLASSIC films DON!:D
Fook that for a game of soldiers!!!
I still like my version of VP more :D
So WRONG you could be RIGHT...doubts even here though!:D
..and one of the little kids in the film says " He's not Jesus, he's just a fella" A reference to the false deification of Curtis perhaps? Are there any other film script references in Sumners lyrics?
Originally posted by a very small boy ..and one of the little kids in the film says " He's not Jesus, he's just a fella" A reference to the false deification of Curtis perhaps?Are there any other film script references in Sumners lyrics?
I remember how upset the kids are when they realize he is not JESUS.![]()
I remember falling in love with Hayley Mills when I first saw this film, a fixation that only ended when I chanced upon Jenny Agutter sans kit in Walkabout. Whistle down the wind must have affected Barney in a similar manner for him to have incorporated it in lyrics some 20/25 years later.
It's a turn of phrase: "To whistle down the wind is to talk purposelessly; to abandon. This relates to hawking where there is little point in releasing the bird downwind."
I just thought it meant whistling down the wind is a pointless exercise cos you can't hear yourself? Didn't know hawking came into it. Oh well, you live and learn.
The significance with New Order is obvious: Barney actually admitting they've been 'whistling down the wind' for years! ;)
Originally posted by a very small boy I remember falling in love with Hayley Mills when I first saw this film, a fixation that only ended when I chanced upon Jenny Agutter sans kit in Walkabout.Whistle down the wind must have affected Barney in a similar manner for him to have incorporated it in lyrics some 20/25 years later.
JENNY AGUTTER....RAILWAY CHILDREN...fell in love with her then.![]()
This is even more interesting than I've thought ! Is it an English movie, I don't think it was ever shown in Croatia.
Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak This is even more interesting than I've thought ! Is it an English movie, I don't think it was ever shown in Croatia.
Yes it is ENGLISH from the 1960's.![]()
and Hayley Mills was, what, 10 in the film? These were definitely pre-pubescent cravings although by the time Agutter stripped off....
Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak> This is even more interesting than I've thought ! Is it an English movie, I don't think it was ever shown in Croatia.
Yes it is ENGLISH from the 1960's.![]()
You would have been a youngster of about 25 then![]()
Originally posted by ShugZV©
> Originally posted by Rocket Mick> > > > Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak> > This is even more interesting than I've thought ! Is it an English movie, I don't think it was ever shown in Croatia.>
Yes it is ENGLISH from the 1960's.![]()
You would have been a youngster of about 25 then![]()
And CELTIC were BIG in EUROPE'S PROPER CUP!:p
to me the last line of the songsong always seemed like praise to Jesus, who never gave in, and that it was about people giving jesus up to death on the cross, but when you take the entire song into acount it is more likly to be about Ian Curtis
Originally posted by Rocket Mick > Originally posted by ShugZV©
> Originally posted by Rocket Mick> > > > Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak> > This is even more interesting than I've thought ! Is it an English movie, I don't think it was ever shown in Croatia.>
Yes it is ENGLISH from the 1960's.![]()
You would have been a youngster of about 25 then![]()
And CELTIC were BIG in EUROPE'S PROPER CUP!:pWow, owned.
Originally posted by a very small boy Are there any other film script references in Sumners lyrics?
Thieves Like Us is a Robert Altman film, but I've never seen it so for all I know they just nicked the name.
Originally posted by Chase > Originally posted by a very small boy> > Are there any other film script references in Sumners lyrics?
Thieves Like Us is a Robert Altman film, but I've never seen it so for all I know they just nicked the name.
Well, Vanishing Point is the name of a 70's movie...
Yeah, but I think it's about car racing!
:car: :car:
And they drove it awayBy a whisker dragstrip winFrom the look of the raceHe never gave in...
aren't loads of the song titles based on film titles & or books, nicked from posters that they see & like, a tradition started with JD and carried thru to NO & electronic. atrocity exhibition (ballard) cries & whispers,age of consent, forbidden city, imitation of life, procession... i could go on. sure some are just coincidence also...
Originally posted by Chase Yeah, but I think it's about car racing!:car::car:And they drove it awayBy a whisker dragstrip winFrom the look of the raceHe never gave in...
true & it featured a lead character called kowalski which is the name of a primal scream song & the lead singer of primal scream guested on get ready & so the circle widens...
Originally posted by Hibster > Originally posted by Chase> Yeah, but I think it's about car racing!> > :car:> :car:> > And they drove it awayBy a whisker dragstrip winFrom the look of the raceHe never gave in...
true & it featured a lead character called kowalski which is the name of a primal scream song & the lead singer of primal scream guested on get ready & so the circle widens...
Correct, and Primal's 1997 album was called...
Vanishing Point! ![]()