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Originally posted by Ken Brough > > Religion is basically opinion/belief right ?> i.e. "I believe this..." "I think that"> > Knowing I will get castigated for saying this, but is it just me then who finds it ironic how many times those phrases appear in Liv's text ? Aren't you kind of contradicting the statement "Religion should be a private thing" ?> > I'll just take cover before the flak arrives

Ken, im sure you are more than aware that there is a great difference between opinion and religion. By saying I believe, or I think, i have simply expressed my opinion, not asked you to be circumsized, take communion or praise the lord. The statement(in my opinion) remains, religion is a private thing, but opinions are free and have the right to be expressed. Im sure no one will disagree with that.

Liv :angel:

you are right to run for cover, im not nice when the shit hits the fan... ask my pupils...

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Originally posted by Liv > Originally posted by Ken Brough> > > > > > Religion is basically opinion/belief right ?> > i.e. "I believe this..." "I think that"> > > > Knowing I will get castigated for saying this, but is it just me then who finds it ironic how many times those phrases appear in Liv's text ? Aren't you kind of contradicting the statement "Religion should be a private thing" ?> > > > I'll just take cover before the flak arrives>

Ken, im sure you are more than aware that there is a great difference between opinion and religion. By saying I believe, or I think, i have simply expressed my opinion, not asked you to be circumsized, take communion or praise the lord. The statement(in my opinion) remains, religion is a private thing, but opinions are free and have the right to be expressed. Im sure no one will disagree with that.

Liv :angel:

you are right to run for cover, im not nice when the shit hits the fan... ask my pupils...

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Not sure what happened there but anyway

I'm still not convinced but hey, I never disagree with a lady teacher

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We shouldn't care what religion so and so is as long as we follow this simple rule

Love Everyone

yes, love yer mother, yer father, yer brother, yer sister, yer wife, yer sons, yer daughters, yer grandkids, yer in-laws, yer ex-wives, yer step-dad, yer step-mom, yer step-kids, yer friends, yes even yer friend that likes backstreet boys, the guy that makes fun of you, the guy that backstabbed you, the guy that isn't cool, yer co-workers, yer boss, the guy that owes you a lot of money, the guy that broke yer legs cuzz u owed him a lot of money, yer cousins, yer uncles, yer aunts, yes even the annoying one that insults yer weight, yer classmates, yer teachers, yer doctors, yer lawyers, yer repo-men, the IRS, yer congressmen, yer senators, yer politicians, yes even George Dubbya Bush, yer countrymen, Americans, Canadians, Englishmen, French, Germans, Russians, Italians, Japanese, Chinese, Arabians, Africans, Mongolians, Greeks, Afghans, yes even the Taliban, the Jews, the Catholics, the Protestants, the Anglicans, the Orthodox, the Muslims, the Hindus, the Buddhists, the Confucianists, the Taoists, the Sikhs, the Zoroasters, the Scientologists, the prostitute that you pregnated, yer bastard child, the person that gave you herpes, the guy that yer girlfriend had an affair with, yer neighbours, the guy that broke into yer car, the guy that stole yer car, the guy that broke into yer house, the guy that stole yer tv and/or stereo, the guy that killed yer dog, the people that listen to shitty music, the people that make shitty music,

but most of all love yer God and LOVE NEW ORDER!!!

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Originally posted by Evil Dust We shouldn't care what religion so and so is as long as we follow this simple ruleLove Everyoneyes, love yer mother, yer father, yer brother, yer sister, yer wife, yer sons, yer daughters, yer grandkids, yer in-laws, yer ex-wives, yer step-dad, yer step-mom, yer step-kids, yer friends, yes even yer friend that likes backstreet boys, the guy that makes fun of you, the guy that backstabbed you, the guy that isn't cool, yer co-workers, yer boss, the guy that owes you a lot of money, the guy that broke yer legs cuzz u owed him a lot of money, yer cousins, yer uncles, yer aunts, yes even the annoying one that insults yer weight, yer classmates, yer teachers, yer doctors, yer lawyers, yer repo-men, the IRS, yer congressmen, yer senators, yer politicians, yes even George Dubbya Bush, yer countrymen, Americans, Canadians, Englishmen, French, Germans, Russians, Italians, Japanese, Chinese, Arabians, Africans, Mongolians, Greeks, Afghans, yes even the Taliban, the Jews, the Catholics, the Protestants, the Anglicans, the Orthodox, the Muslims, the Hindus, the Buddhists, the Confucianists, the Taoists, the Sikhs, the Zoroasters, the Scientologists, the prostitute that you pregnated, yer bastard child, the person that gave you herpes, the guy that yer girlfriend had an affair with, yer neighbours, the guy that broke into yer car, the guy that stole yer car, the guy that broke into yer house, the guy that stole yer tv and/or stereo, the guy that killed yer dog, the people that listen to shitty music, the people that make shitty music, but most of all love yer God and LOVE NEW ORDER!!!

amen

Liv :angel:

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But not poor Tony W., eh Liv!!??!!??

M.

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Originally posted by martin fradley But not poor Tony W., eh Liv!!??!!??M.

fuck me, its get Liv day today on NewOrderOnline...

No, Tony Wilson doesnt count, he is the devil incarnate...

Liv :angel:

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Originally posted by Liv > Originally posted by Ken Brough> > > > > > Religion is basically opinion/belief right ?> > i.e. "I believe this..." "I think that"> > > > Knowing I will get castigated for saying this, but is it just me then who finds it ironic how many times those phrases appear in Liv's text ? Aren't you kind of contradicting the statement "Religion should be a private thing" ?> > > > I'll just take cover before the flak arrives>

Ken, im sure you are more than aware that there is a great difference between opinion and religion. By saying I believe, or I think, i have simply expressed my opinion, not asked you to be circumsized, take communion or praise the lord. The statement(in my opinion) remains, religion is a private thing, but opinions are free and have the right to be expressed. Im sure no one will disagree with that.

Liv :angel:

you are right to run for cover, im not nice when the shit hits the fan... ask my pupils...

perhaps seb should set up a "teacher voice" icon?

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Originally posted by dave hibell perhaps seb should set up a "teacher voice" icon?

And why not.... im up for anything... I could be the resident disciplinarian....

Liv :angel:

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"God is a concept by which we measure our pain"-John Lennon, 1970 (Plastic Ono Band)

Thank you, end of subject..

(close this one up, Sebsy boy, it's overdone)

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Originally posted by Taboo # 7 "God is a concept by which we measure our pain"-John Lennon, 1970 (Plastic Ono Band)Thank you, end of subject..(close this one up, Sebsy boy, it's overdone)

Totally agree, If theres no room for Breasts, theres no room for religion! Haven't even looked at the North/South thread yet....Don't think I'll bother!

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Originally posted by Maria "Well, therefore, I give myself the right to ask questions about it."It may be your right to ask questions about it, but you should also respect if the person you're asking don't want to answer. There may be other reasons than "not being confident" in what they believe.

I KNEW someone would understand my messages the way you did! I DO NOT question the right of someone not to speak of his religion -- but I give myself the right to SPEAK OF IT.

That's what I meant.

But what I'd like to know from your message is: what other reasons would that be? (for not speaking of your religious beliefs)

Seb.

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Originally posted by Seb Briggs Religions a form of social control. It should make no difference what one person believes personally. I personally am a non practising Christian. I think that most of whats taught in Church etc does makes a lot of sense though.Take it or leave it.

I fully agree with what you said.

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Originally posted by Sébastien Boisvert That's what I meant.But what I'd like to know from your message is: what other reasons would that be? (for not speaking of your religious beliefs)Seb.

That would be: personal reasons ( ;) ) that would make you not want to discuss religion/politics with a total stranger. But seriously. If it's someone I knew, I'd gladly discuss any "difficult" question (well not gladly maybe, but I wouldn't hesitate to give my opinion) that may arise. This is because sometimes things I say may sound very harsh and cynical, although I'm not like that at all. People may be offended. I may be offended. Often, VERY often, I am misunderstood. My life is about trying to explain what I mean, because I can't sufficiently express my thoughts in words. Even people who know me have a hard time understanding what I mean... Maybe I don't want to explain and explain and explain, and still the person don't (want to) understand me. Well, this message is suddenly all about me, which wasn't intended in the first place. I'm not even sure that I answered your question.. :) When I say something, though, it seems like you're taking it as very personal. I am not trying to make you upset.

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If it's really important for you to know my what religious beliefs are, you could always mail me and ask. :) But I don't see this forum as the right place to discuss it.

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While reading all of the posts...one thing has really disturbed me...it is the fact that people are placing the blame on organized religion....The only thing that people have to realize is that there are two types of religious people out there... the moderates and the extremists....The extremists are the individuals who go around crashing planes into building...bombing abortion clinics, and taking sleep for life pills that will take you to a spaceship that is following a comet...the others, who are moderate, have respect and tolerance for other religions and beliefs...like myself.

I go to church once a week, believe in God, and believe in Organized religion...without organization, there would be Chaos...simple as that...

I also believe that people have the choice to not choose religion in there lives...but I think they have an emptiness in their hearts.... Just think of all the great songs that God has inspired!!!!

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Because religion is a very personal thing being non religious must also be a very personal thing. Criticising Religions is one of my favourite pastimes and is a pleasure I won´t forfait easily.

It is true I did not think I would find this discussion here.

Most of the things organised or non-organised religions propose as core beliefs are so praeternaturally ridiculous as not to resist the non biased analysis of a 10 year old and we should all know that at least since Hume.

By the way, I think Barney, as usual, only used the word Jesus to complete a rhyme.

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