Dreams Never End - New Downloads — Forum Archive

29 Jul 2003, 10:57

http://www.dreamsneverend.com

New Order live at Sheffield City Hall, UK, 14th June 1986

New update includes option to download CD cover in either .PNG or .TIF format

All the best,

WenOrder & Chris

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29 Jul 2003, 11:06

Quality. And a good idea to make the cover too, nice one.

29 Jul 2003, 11:17

Cheers Al - making the inlays was originally Wen's idea when we first started the site.

Unfortunately (or fortunately!) he's really busy at the moment, so the site is up to me - any suggestions/complaints, etc, anyone is welcome to let me know.

Hope to meet up with you and the others, next time there's a piss-up in London...

29 Jul 2003, 12:42

thanx!!! Nice downloadspeed :)

29 Jul 2003, 13:02

Hi y'all...

...it's just a good one !... :clap:

Greetz, Floyd Anderson.

chatmaster1@gmx.at

29 Jul 2003, 13:13

:clap: We finally brought DNE back to life! yay!

29 Jul 2003, 13:24

Like I said - my pc is working now... :wink:

29 Jul 2003, 13:27

Thanks very much :clap: :D

29 Jul 2003, 13:47

Originally posted by Nanne a.k.a. SkullCrusher thanx!!! Nice downloadspeed :)

Yeah, send your ISP a big fat tip. My downloads peaked at 290.1 Kbps! :jawdrop:

29 Jul 2003, 14:07

Yeah, thanks heaps lots Chris and Wen!!!

29 Jul 2003, 14:59

thanks alot chris... however, sheffield city hall was the worst new order gig ever and im sure dreams was never played during a very short set..

you may have got it confused with the sheff uni gig a year earlier...this definately included dreams and as a gig was in a different class..

i went to both but have a very poor memory..perhaps i could be wrong

29 Jul 2003, 15:01

please ignore previous message.. i am old and easily get confused !!!

29 Jul 2003, 15:09

No problem, Paul - I made sure that I checked with the incredibly reliable NOOL Tour section first... ..surely BOTH of us couldn't have been wrong...? :laugh:

And you're a couple of years younger than me... eeeek!

29 Jul 2003, 15:22

what about the polls for the next update? or it will be only your decision? (which is fine for me, you´re the bosses ;) )

29 Jul 2003, 15:29

too busy to administer the polls. So I guess it'll be chris's decision. Unless someone wants to help out

29 Jul 2003, 15:54

:nono:

Illegal bootlegging.. tsk tsk tsk

:D

Which reminds me, NOOL had 5 gigabytes of live mp3s 2 years ago, we had to drop them because we were accused of bootlegging by Reprise, and caused us a lot of trouble and being called a "black sheep", all around.

So we don't know who told them, but someone did, you can scale down to two people :D

29 Jul 2003, 15:57

Oh yeah...

The usual disclaimer: NewOrderOnline has nothing to do with this site, but I can't stop free speach on this board!

P/S: Chris, none of the site as "UK" and "US" works anymore.. point to neworderretro.com for the UK and find the Rhino website for the US (it should be in the links here)

29 Jul 2003, 16:07

fixed

29 Jul 2003, 16:23

Originally posted by Spotnick Which reminds me, NOOL had 5 gigabytes of live mp3s 2 years ago, we had to drop them because we were accused of bootlegging by Reprise, and caused us a lot of trouble and being called a "black sheep", all around.

And I only had time to download 2 concerts !!! :(

29 Jul 2003, 16:30

No one cares more about...what's that band again?...New Order than Reprise Records.

If I had downloaded these illegal bootlegs, I'm sure by now I'd be digging on Barney's crazy whammy-bar feedback in "This Time of Night," soaking up the raw energy of "Everything's Gone Green," and generally revelling in what a tough live band this was.

29 Jul 2003, 16:43

Originally posted by Spotnick Illegal bootlegging.. tsk tsk tsk :DWhich reminds me, NOOL had 5 gigabytes of live mp3s 2 years ago, we had to drop them because we were accused of bootlegging by Reprise, and caused us a lot of trouble and being called a "black sheep", all around.So we don't know who told them, but someone did, you can scale down to two people :D

Thanks for that Nic, and to re-affirm that - NewOrder Online and its webmasters have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with DNE.

I have been going on what Hooky said in 1985 - 'If anyone has copies of our gigs, get 'em out there, cos I'd like to hear them'

If he changes his mind, perhaps he'll email me and let me know.

Cheers Hooky. :beer:

30 Jul 2003, 00:15

Well, I wasn't expecting them to dig out some of them and put them on Retro though :D

I doubt New Order will ever release another live CD, the Retro will be the sole one!!

The BBC one wasn't released by New Order's label, it doesn't count ;)

Sheesh, so many bands released DVD and CDs at the same moment, why isn't that what happens here? Why Reading 98 and Finsbury 2002 not on CD yet? I doubt it would cost London a fortune, they could do profit out of this!

30 Jul 2003, 12:01

Originally posted by Al Jarvis Quality. And a good idea to make the cover too, nice one.

So long as no enterprising entrepeneurs out there misuse them to set up a cottage bootlegging industry, all is OK.

Seriously, the number of times I've seen (or heard reports of) stuff for sale on the likes of eBay at hugely inflated prices, when it's readily available for free elsewhere (at least approved by the band, irrespective of the legality) is positively shocking.

30 Jul 2003, 14:32

Enterprising entrepreneurs? Cottage Industry? You mean we could have made money out of that, instead of doing it completely for free???

DOH! :nuts:

30 Jul 2003, 14:40

Hi Chris, great recording, thanks. BTW, you fucked up the link to the back cover pictures... They're all pointing to the front cover.

30 Jul 2003, 15:43

Ooops... sorry about the incorrect link - I was tired and it was around 4am... All sorted now. I'm one big fuck-up really!

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31 Jul 2003, 01:44

Originally posted by Chris Ooops... sorry about the incorrect link - I was tired and it was around 4am... All sorted now. I'm one big fuck-up really!

Hey, at least you didn't get a "D" in basic HTML (like some people...such as myself :cry: )

31 Jul 2003, 04:07

You can bet your bottom dollar that within a month someone will be selling this on E-bay, particularly as you've made it easy for them by designing a cover !

Seriously, making stuff available this way is asking for trouble, restricted access to secure area is the only way you can make recordings available without having some piss-taking bastard profitteer from your generosity and jeopardise your site and even possibly recordings collection.

31 Jul 2003, 08:10

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31 Jul 2003, 11:08

Originally posted by Known Pleasures You can bet your bottom dollar that within a month someone will be selling this on E-bay, particularly as you've made it easy for them by designing a cover !Seriously, making stuff available this way is asking for trouble, restricted access to secure area is the only way you can make recordings available without having some piss-taking bastard profitteer from your generosity and jeopardise your site and even possibly recordings collection.

Well, thanks to all who have left comments/suggestions.

As a result of the above, and similar (and we appreciate these - thanks) we have decided to make DNE a password protected site.

It will be available ONLY to registered Neworderonline members - requests for passwords should be directed to either myself (thirt33nth_man@hotmail.com) or to WenOrder on his email address.

We will be checking places like Ebay etc. and if any concerts/inlays are advertised for sale, we will delete our site immediately.

We make no profit whatsoever from the DNE site and may we assure everyone that no 'official' releases will ever be posted - we have never intended to reduce the band's or record companies' revenues and intend to continue in this vein.

It is a site for fans to hear gigs that they couldn't attend for whatever reason.

Hope that clears things up a bit and that you understand our reasons for taking this action.

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31 Jul 2003, 11:16

we'll also be keeping a list of people we give the password out too. So, if it does end up on ebay with one of our CD inlay we'll know we're they came from.

Damn, I'm starting to sound like I work for Razormaid. Sorry. but like chris says, we never intended to start the site for profit. :)

31 Jul 2003, 14:00

let me clearify one thing, When Chris says registered neworderonline member, just tell us your nickname, you don't have to give us your login info and password! :D

31 Jul 2003, 14:18

Owhhhh.... that spoils all the fun! (joke)

Yeah - Mike's right - we don't want any personal details! :wink:

1 Aug 2003, 04:37

It's a real pity that is has had to come to this. One or two of the members here fall into the "pisstaking bastard" category. While the vast majority of fans are good honest people, there's always some chancers who will get something for nothing and then seek to make profit from it - I know who you are, plus the address the CDs were sent to.....

Consequently, I am now going to withdraw from sending any free live tapes/CDs to people unless I know them already. All contest winners will receive their prizes (when I finally get a chance to ship them), but after that there will be no freebies. Trades will be considered.

Keep up the good work Mike and Chris :clap:

1 Aug 2003, 05:48

Am I missing something? It's asking me for a username and a password..!

1 Aug 2003, 08:48

Originally posted by Peter Rooney Am I missing something? It's asking me for a username and a password..!

Read the above posts.

Thanks for the gig fellas!!!

2 Aug 2003, 14:11

Very dissapointed to hear about the developments... :( I've always wanted to think that the people into JD/ NO weren't primarily into making a profit, wasn't that the idea of the bands and Factory after all ?

2 Aug 2003, 18:44

You guys will have to email chris for the login, I'll be away from my computer for the next couple weeks cause I'll be down in florida.

2 Aug 2003, 20:49

No problem Mike :)

New download late Sunday. Everyone please do bear in mind that if just one person produces any of our stuff for profit, then they screw it up for everyone else. We don't make profit (or any money actually!) So please don't spoil stuff for all the others.

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4 Aug 2003, 19:33

I kind of missed out on a few of the Sheffield tracks due to being a very busy chappy just now and having a pish dial-up connection. :cry:

I was able to download BLT, This Time Of Night, EGG, As It Is..., Subculture and AOC..

Is there any chance/way that someone could make the remainder available to me?? I'd love you forever and ever and ever and be your bestest ever pal....

4 Aug 2003, 20:21

I'll tell you what, Graeme - there's a couple of people who missed a few tracks, so perhaps someone will upload the whole gig again, say Sunday night from around 10pm (GMT) and give everyone '24 Hours' to get the tracks they missed. Then perhaps a new gig will be posted...

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5 Aug 2003, 04:18

Originally posted by Chris I'll tell you what, Graeme - there's a couple of people who missed a few tracks, so perhaps someone will upload the whole gig again, say Sunday night from around 10pm (GMT) and give everyone '24 Hours' to get the tracks they missed. Then perhaps a new gig will be posted...

i thank this someone !

5 Aug 2003, 04:38

Originally posted by talmm > Originally posted by Chris> I'll tell you what, Graeme - there's a couple of people who missed a few tracks, so perhaps someone will upload the whole gig again, say Sunday night from around 10pm (GMT) and give everyone '24 Hours' to get the tracks they missed. Then perhaps a new gig will be posted... > >

i thank this someone !

This someone must be a great and magnanimous man indeed! :bow:

5 Aug 2003, 04:59

Chris - e-mail me with a postal address and I'll sort you out a couple of shows for upload. I've got to do some copying tonight for other people so will get a couple of gigs ready.

5 Aug 2003, 06:59

Cheers for the Manchester gig guys. :clap: Great stuff!!!

5 Aug 2003, 08:05

Thankyou Chris for my password to DNE. Downloaded the Old Trafford gig as soon as i got it, great stuff. Interesting to compare this gig with the Shefield City Hall gig, newOrder are so much more animated and dare i say happy. Am waiting in anticipation for the rest of the Old Trafford gig on thursday. Keep up the good work mate.

5 Aug 2003, 08:42

Originally posted by Known Pleasures Chris - e-mail me with a postal address and I'll sort you out a couple of shows for upload. I've got to do some copying tonight for other people so will get a couple of gigs ready.

I emailed your Hotmail address. Thanks alot for that

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5 Aug 2003, 14:55

Correction to previous supposition...

I have a feeling that the whole Sheffield gig might be uploaded again from around 10pm GMT on Thursday. Then be replaced by the rest of the Old Trafford stuff sometime Friday morning.

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5 Aug 2003, 15:28

Hi @ Chris...

...the NOOL community appreciates... :nod:

Greetz, Floyd Anderson.

chatmaster1@gmx.at

5 Aug 2003, 17:45

Cheers Floyd & everyone else! :wink:

Any requests for odd/rare NO mixes for Floyd's server? I have a few tucked away that wouldn't fit in with DNE at the moment, plus some reasonable cover versions.

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5 Aug 2003, 19:05

Chance. We need Chance for Floyd's server.

5 Aug 2003, 19:07

Sheffield and Old Trafford gigs dled quite well. I was wondering if you of you had the forms that Barney was going to pass around at Old Trafford. And did they get good marks???? Remember, C was for dogshit. LOL

5 Aug 2003, 19:39

40,000 forms were given out, seven were returned.

Four of them said 'c' - dogshit

One said, 'Is dogshit going to be available for download?'

And the 'Other Two' were spoiled ballots.

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6 Aug 2003, 08:51

Hey Chris, I tried to email you (via your profile) to get a password but it bounced. Any chance I can still get the Old Trafford (and Manchester?) gigs at some point? Is there another address I'm supposed to use? I've never sold anything on Ebay and I'm not about to start now.

Sheffield rocked, thanks...good to hear more stuff from the PFD era.

6 Aug 2003, 09:25

Look earlier in this thread - my email is there :nod:

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6 Aug 2003, 18:03

thanxs for the pw chris d/l was well fast but i can`t get covers for the old trafford d/l any chance someone could email em to me thanxs again .:D

6 Aug 2003, 22:38

They'll be available with the last 6 tracks of the gig - from around 10AM (GMT) Friday

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8 Aug 2003, 05:39

Looks like someone put the wrong gig up, it isn't Sheffield 86 is it?

8 Aug 2003, 06:15

Just keeping us in suspense me thinks.

8 Aug 2003, 08:39

Sheffield 86 was up from 10.30 (GMT) until Midday today. The Old Trafford gig (last 6 tracks and inlays) will be available from around 2pm Friday (today) until late Sunday/early Monday. Then there'll be a new gig for you...

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8 Aug 2003, 10:32

Now I'm still missing two Sheffield tracks...damn this having to sleep and work lark!

8 Aug 2003, 10:59

damn, i missed it again :cry: ...

i should read this thread everyday :D

would someone on soulseek have downloaded and share it ?

thx :love2:

8 Aug 2003, 11:35

The rest of Old Trafford dled quite nice/quickly. The problem with the second running of Sheffield was that it was still labeled Old Trafford and Sooner Than U Think could not be opened the second time around.

TY, you people are the best.

twist<--------NOOL poster formerly known as Chris Guevara

8 Aug 2003, 11:48

how do u get into download these?

8 Aug 2003, 12:19

Great gig guys.Thanx a lot.(Old trafford) :nod:

8 Aug 2003, 12:35

Thanks Chris, I'm an idiot. :bag: :stupid:

You have mail.

9 Aug 2003, 06:32

Thanks a lot chris. Great gig and exellent d/l speeds atb Jon:):)

9 Aug 2003, 06:45

Originally posted by twist The rest of Old Trafford dled quite nice/quickly. The problem with the second running of Sheffield was that it was still labeled Old Trafford and Sooner Than U Think could not be opened the second time around.TY, you people are the best.twist<--------NOOL poster formerly known as Chris Guevara

Sorry about that - as always, I was doing it all late at night and not paying enough attention.

So people can FINALLY get the whole Sheffield gig, I'll put it up one last time - probably Monday morning. Then later in the week, the start of another gig...

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9 Aug 2003, 06:49

1st post here, just to say Thanks Chris, i missed too the Sheffield gig but the Old Trafford gis it´s awesome:)

9 Aug 2003, 08:07

Thank you Chris for the Infos,But i couldnt send an answer to you back - my e mail server sucks.I know the Manchester 2002 gig from another Bootleg last year. Thanks :clap:

9 Aug 2003, 08:38

Downloaded the rest of the Old Trafford gig last night, great stuff, Bernard yelling "c'mon" on LWTUA, the sampling of Kylie on BM, loved it. Do you design the CD inlays Chris? The're great and help round off the whole package you have on offer. Keep it up, am looking forward to the next gig, Brixton 2001 i believe.

9 Aug 2003, 09:10

Thanks guys. And yes, I design the inlays.

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11 Aug 2003, 06:41

How long are the last 6 songs going to be on ? I can't download them before later today.

11 Aug 2003, 07:40

Originally posted by Chris Thanks guys. And yes, I design the inlays.

CHRIS you once offered the GET READY (like your AVATAR) picture via E-MAIL.If you have them still can i have a copy to MICKG248@HOTMAIL.COM. Cheers ROCKET MICK

11 Aug 2003, 08:05

I sent the lot to you in a winzip file Mick - hope they're okay

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11 Aug 2003, 08:07

Originally posted by Julijana Zitnjak How long are the last 6 songs going to be on ? I can't download them before later today.

I'm keeping them up there for another couple of days. In future, I'm thinking of updating once every 2 weeks, as so many people seem to need more than a week to download everything! So, don't worry.

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12 Aug 2003, 16:15

I managed to get the last six of Old Trafford last night, so now I just need to keep an eye out for the rerun of the first twelve.

So far I've seen Sheffield and Old T...have I missed one?

Thanks tremendously for doing this Chris it's a great help to those of us living on the wrong side of the planet. You guys RAWK. :bow:

12 Aug 2003, 16:46

Hi, Folks & especially 2 Chase...

...well as u know, that my job with the ftp server is, 2 offer studio worx & remixes of new order & side projects...

... but hoping that Chris, the master of DNE agrees with me, I will put on the numbers 1 - 12 of the old trafford gig 4 approx. 24 hours...

...be4 doing that, I'll wait 4 the positive reply from Chris...

Greetz, Floyd Anderson.

chatmaster1@gmx.at

12 Aug 2003, 20:36

Floyd - if you want to do it, go for it mate! And thanks. Alot of people have been asking for things that they've missed. Trouble is, I can't keep posting the same 2 gigs over and over - people want new stuff as well. So, I'll leave the last 6 up there until Sunday, then start a new gig. I think that will give everyone a fair chance, won't it?

Cheers

:beer:

13 Aug 2003, 03:11

Hi Chris...

...thx 4 positive reply...

...well then, here we are...

...I'll put the number 1 - 12 from the Old Trafford gig on the server; it will be deleted on 2003-08-15 10 p.m. middle-european summertime...

..be vigilant...:)

Greetz, Floyd Anderson.

chatmaster1@gmx.at

13 Aug 2003, 07:23

Hi Floyd, thanks for doing that. I'm trying to download the tracks, but unfortunately my connection is very slow and keeps dropping...I can't get either WS_FTP Pro or DAP to work (both get stuck asking me for a password), so I can't just resume after a drop either. I'll keep trying but I may have to just wait to get them. I appreciate the effort though.

And Chris, it's my own fault I missed them the first time so no worries, move on to the next gig when you feel it's time. Thanks again.

UPDATE: Hot dayum, I left a dozen download windows running overnight, with an estimated time of nearly 2 days on each, and came back this morning to find that almost all of them had finished successfully. Just wrapping up a reload of TBTHOG now and I'll have everything. Download speed has improved quite a bit. Woooo! Vielen Dank, Floyd! :jump:

13 Aug 2003, 13:50

Thanx! I agree nice download speed! Later, Xeno.

13 Aug 2003, 20:44

Brixton 10/10/01 next lads. (and lasses)

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14 Aug 2003, 04:36

Thanks for the password Chris, completing the OT gig now. I don't remember ANY of this gig due to the beer token arrangement at the bars (way too easy!).

Thanks a lot

Thanks to Floyd too!!

14 Aug 2003, 04:49

Hi Chris...

...we appreciate...

...but some Q's:... ...I'll move 2 New Zealand & Tasmania 4 holidays 4 the whole October... ...so if u update the dne-site every 2 weeks, I'll miss alot, don't I ?... ...can I do anything against it ?... ...and should I pause the ftp-server @ this time ? :shrug: ... ...(somany Q's from an amateur 2 a professional)... ...and it's not really easy 4 me, 2 leave my 'puter alone such along time :cry: :computer: :computer2: ...

Greetz, Floyd Anderson.

chatmaster1@gmx.at

14 Aug 2003, 20:23

Floyd - email me about that...

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17 Aug 2003, 19:06

First part of Brixton 10/10/2001 approx 2pm (GMT) Monday.

Second part to follow a week later with CD inlays. Just to give you all a chance to download. I won't be posting about this much any more - keep an eye on the DNE site for info of 'next download' dates, etc.

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17 Aug 2003, 19:41

Hi Chris...

...be4 falling :sleep: , Iu !...

...goodnite, Floyd Anderson.

17 Aug 2003, 19:43

Cheers Floyd :love2: you too!

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18 Aug 2003, 10:25

Originally posted by Chris First part of Brixton 10/10/2001 approx 2pm (GMT) Monday.Second part to follow a week later with CD inlays. Just to give you all a chance to download. I won't be posting about this much any more - keep an eye on the DNE site for info of 'next download' dates, etc.

Did you mean Last Monday, This Monday, Next Monday? Or a new Order Monday? Even a Blue Monday? :laugh:

Just messing with yea.

18 Aug 2003, 11:09

Am I missing something here? Every time I try to get in, it asks me for a login ID and a password..

18 Aug 2003, 12:57

Peter - you missed most of this thread! Check through and email me mate.

Currently having Broadband connectivity problems, so chances are, new gig won't be available until 20th Aug - just making sure for you Jim - that's 'pedantic Wednesday' - :laugh:

Please forgive me if I can't get it sorted by then - I can't upload everything effectively on a sh**ty 56K without the thing crashing... :cry:

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24 Aug 2003, 06:28

Hi Chris...

...I'll refresh the thread... ...Kilburn National Ballroom is well done... ...Montreux, July 1993 would b nice being the next one !...:) ...and which proggy do u use 2 create covers & inlays ?...

Greetz, Floyd Anderson.

chatmaster1@gmx.at

24 Aug 2003, 12:16

Hi Floyd - Montreaux is a good idea, but people have been looking forward to the Brixton one...

I use Photoshop & Macromedia Fireworks. I don't do the inlays 'properly - just 10 minute knock-ups, but we thought it might be a nice bonus for people who couldn't make them for whatever reason.

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24 Aug 2003, 13:07

Hi Chris...

...thx 4 reply... ...I also look forward 2 the brixton gig, and I'll b patient 4 the montreux gig indeed... ...and I'm a cover-freak, like more poeple, I think, but I'm an amateur against a professional like u, so keep going 4 that ! (I voted 4 it)...

...if u like an example 4 it, e-mail me ur address...

Greetz, Floyd Anderson.

chatmaster1@gmx.at

24 Aug 2003, 15:43

DAP works well for me. I use DAP for Floyd's ftp site but do not use it for DNE. The ftp site has less bandwidth and even with DAP and cable my dl speed is like 14 kps. DNE must be huge or no one is dling when I do. It ges very quickly without a dl accellerator.

I appreciate all the material available. It is great to hear this band live.

25 Aug 2003, 11:05

Just downloaded the Kilburn gig, very rough and raw, brilliant. Favourite bits, bernard saying "you talk to much" and "you still talk to much". 586 and Hurt never sounded better.

27 Aug 2003, 01:17

Originally posted by Buffer Just downloaded the Kilburn gig, very rough and raw, brilliant. Favourite bits, bernard saying "you talk to much" and "you still talk to much". 586 and Hurt never sounded better.

Wasn't that Hooky heckling the audience? :scratch: Thought that was his bit in the old days. The crowd is hilarious.

:drunken: Any song will do! :/drunken:

22 Sep 2003, 15:04

Hi Chris...

... I really want 2 keep this thread alive, and I've 2 tell u, that the 'brixton academy' gig is well done, thx 4 that (incl. inlays):)...

...since some postings r gone lost (tsktsktsk... 2 nic :skeptic: :)), I want 2 make sure 4 all others, that the next gig on DNE could be montreux, switzerland; do u agree with me ?...

Greetz, Floyd Anderson.

chatmaster1@gmx.at

22 Sep 2003, 16:01

I can't find the Montreaux gig! So, it'll have to be something different.Perhaps Sunderland Mayfair - 15th August 1984 with a very early version of 'Sunrise' - where Barney uses mainly the lyrics from 'Temptation' plus alot of 'In and out' references! :laugh:

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22 Sep 2003, 16:17

Hey Chris, GOt your stuff. I am enjoying it a lot. ANyways, I jsut wanted to thank you for the great job your doing DNE. I just renewed the domain for another couple years..

22 Sep 2003, 16:25

Originally posted by Chris I can't find the Montreaux gig! So, it'll have to be something different.Perhaps Sunderland Mayfair - 15th August 1984 with a very early version of 'Sunrise' - where Barney uses mainly the lyrics from 'Temptation' plus alot of 'In and out' references!

Hi folks...

is it really me 4

the reply no. 100 ?...

...it seems so, and it's a good one !...:) ...update: ohoh... it's no. 101 !(getting red)... :love2: ...@ Chris; Sunderland gig would b funny 2 listen 2; I'm in tension of that !...

Greetz, Floyd Anderson.

chatmaster1@gmx.at

24 Sep 2003, 05:33

Wasn't Sunderland the first time that NO performed LWTUA - or am I mistaken? Wasn't it a miners' benefit gig?

24 Sep 2003, 05:37

Well the track listing for Sunderland is:

Face Up Thieves Like Us Age Of Consent Your Silent Face Sooner Than You Think ICB The Village 586 Sunrise TPK Blue Monday

Not sure when they first performed LWTUA, but it doesn't seem to be that gig, unless there's a track missing, and at 11 tracks in 1984, I'd say that New Order were in a generous mood that night... :nod:

Thanks for letting me know Mike - more stuff to come when I have time to copy it!

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24 Sep 2003, 06:43

Originally posted by Chris Well the track listing for Sunderland is:Face UpThieves Like UsAge Of ConsentYour Silent FaceSooner Than You ThinkICBThe Village586SunriseTPKBlue MondayNot sure when they first performed LWTUA, but it doesn't seem to be that gig, unless there's a track missing, and at 11 tracks in 1984, I'd say that New Order were in a generous mood that night... Thanks for letting me know Mike - more stuff to come when I have time to copy it!

They performed LWTUA at first as soundcheck in february 9th,1981 and live was in May 9th,1983 it was Rob Gretton's birthday.The cities they were played in sequence,London and Birmigham.

3 Oct 2003, 17:31

When is the next update of DNE, Chris? Dont want to look annoying but I am VERY curious about this Sunderland concert!!!

4 Oct 2003, 12:36

Hopefully sometime this weekend - I've been inundated with work over the last week. I'd like to get the first part sorted out in the next couple of days though. Don't worry, it WILL happen!

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4 Oct 2003, 13:22

Hiya Chris...tried to e-mail you so I could get a password to DNE...but my e-mail was bounced back... :cry:

5 Oct 2003, 10:15

thirt33nth_man@hotmail.com

Nic hasn't sorted out my NOOL email address after the last server move... :laugh:

:beer:

6 Oct 2003, 01:22

How can I access DNE, i don't know the username or password, will someone e-mail me the info

7 Oct 2003, 18:34

Why am I always the last to hear about something like this? Can someone please email me the login and password? Pretty please? I would appreciate it immensely. Cheers!!

7 Oct 2003, 18:42

Originally posted by Dark Angel Why am I always the last to hear about something like this? Can someone please email me the login and password? Pretty please? I would appreciate it immensely. Cheers!!

Because you're north american. :evil4:

Check your inbox.

And release your endless dreams :love2:

8 Oct 2003, 07:16

Originally posted by Chris thirt33nth_man@hotmail.comNic hasn't sorted out my NOOL email address after the last server move...

Chris...that's the email addy I tried...tried it again...same result...

8 Oct 2003, 14:55

Originally posted by Love Will Tear Us Apart > Originally posted by Dark Angel> Why am I always the last to hear about something like this? Can someone please email me the login and password? Pretty please? I would appreciate it immensely. Cheers!!

Because you're north american. :evil4:

Check your inbox.

And release your endless dreams :love2:

The North American comment was a bit evil, don't you think? :evil2:

:cry: I didn't get the email. Try this addy instead.

kileyq@hotmail.com

Oh, and another thing...I can't help it that my dad chose to move here to NA. FYI, he's a Brit. ;)

9 Oct 2003, 04:35

If anyone wants passwords, etc. please email me or Mike directly.

We need to keep a log of who has access, as we want to try to prevent any gigs being sold on sites like Ebay.

If people do start sending out passwords and circumventing us, we'll have to change the login details and everyone will have to apply again.

Not trying to be awkward, but we do need to keep fairly tight control of all this.

Thanks guys.

:beer:

9 Oct 2003, 04:56

Chris,

Don't suppose I should mither really (for our non UK- cousins, "mither" is Manchester speak for "continually annoy or hassle" - as in "stop bl**dy mithering me!"), but do we have an update as to what and when the next concert will be?

Cheers!

:)

9 Oct 2003, 13:33

hi, i don't know if this has been covered previously in this thread but i can't access dreamsneverend.com. it asks me to supply some sort of login and password.

:confused:

9 Oct 2003, 15:59

Originally posted by Grell hi, i don't know if this has been covered previously in this thread but i can't access dreamsneverend.com. it asks me to supply some sort of login and password.

See the post 2 before yours :evil4:

9 Oct 2003, 18:29

Originally posted by Peter Rooney Chris,Don't suppose I should mither really (for our non UK- cousins, "mither" is Manchester speak for "continually annoy or hassle" - as in "stop bl**dy mithering me!"), but do we have an update as to what and when the next concert will be?Cheers! :)

Bloody hell.... You know, I've been listening to Mark and Lard for years, and hadn't a clue as to what they meant by "e-mithering" (well, obviously they meant emailing, but I hadn't a clue as to the origin of their expression).

I feel I've been educated today. :nod:

11 Oct 2003, 09:42

No need to be a bunch of mardy gits for much longer (mardy=miserable) With any luck, I'll be updating (at last) with the Sunderland Mayfair gig - 15th Augustm 1984 tomorrow (Sunday).

:beer:

11 Oct 2003, 15:06

TY Chris and Mike. We appreciate all your efforts. You guys rawk!!

13 Oct 2003, 21:20

And I presume that 'rawk' translates as, 'You chaps have done a good thing'?

If so, then thanks.

First 6 tracks of Sunderland Mayfair now available. Sorry for the delay.

:beer:

14 Oct 2003, 04:32

The highest purpose of everyone and everything is to RAWK. :guitar:

Just ask Rip Glitter.

14 Oct 2003, 05:02

Hi Chris !

...I was New Zealand, as u know, so I couldn't get the Sunderland gig - don't forget me, buddy !:D

Greetz, Floyd Anderson.

chatmaster1@gmx.at

21 Oct 2003, 14:25

I am probably being annoying but anyway!!! Thank u again Chris for the end of the Sunderland mayfair show!!!!!!!!!!!

21 Oct 2003, 14:46

Originally posted by Floyd Anderson Hi Chris !...I'm in New Zealand, as u know, so I can't get the Sunderland gig - don't forget me, buddy ! :-)Greetz from New Zealand, Floyd Anderson.chatmaster1@gmx.at

Hey Chris

Say hello to The Lord of the Rings if you see him,ok :wink:

21 Oct 2003, 15:10

Originally posted by francois-marc loze I am probably being annoying but anyway!!! Thank u again Chris for the end of the Sunderland mayfair show!!!!!!!!!!!

Not annoying in the slightest :) Thanks for the comment.

Hope the inlay is okay/the right size - I did it in rather a hurry - 4am then 3 hours sleep before work...

:beer:

22 Oct 2003, 13:30

Thanks a lot for the latest additions to the site, Chris. Unfortunately, track 8 (586) is incomplete: it's only 4.43 MB. Could you please look into this?

22 Oct 2003, 13:44

Also, tracks 8 (586), 10 (Perfect Kiss) & 11 (Blue Monday) are encoded at 44 kHz, while the others are 48 kHz. I'm not complaining, but this does result in a difference in sound quality. Don't worry about it if you can't do anything about it, though! Many thanks all the same!!!

23 Oct 2003, 06:02

Originally posted by little boy lost Thanks a lot for the latest additions to the site, Chris. Unfortunately, track 8 (586) is incomplete: it's only 4.43 MB. Could you please look into this?

I got this too. But then I thought, hang on, this is roughly 45 minutes into the gig and I expect the chap taping the gig had to turn his C90 tape over. In those days you probably expected to fit a whole NO gig on one side of a tape - this looks like an exceptional case.

I'm actually amazed and eternally grateful that so many of these early 80s gigs have been recorded. Never thought I'd hear all these early versions of songs I've only known off by heart on record. It's a pity more gig videos don't get released - Factory must have taped a lot.

23 Oct 2003, 14:27

Oh dear... I'll see what I can do. I just took the tracks from a CDr, so it may just be a problem with the original. As for the sample rate, I was sure they were the same. I'll check and redo it if I can find the problem.

Thanks for the info guys.

:beer:

5 Nov 2003, 16:10

Need me fix. Any updates or new gigs coming around?

twist<---call me addicted

6 Nov 2003, 16:47

Not sure what's going to be the next gig yet, though I do have a few gems...

The next update will hopefully be Track 8 - 586 in its entiretly - if I can get it to load...

:beer:

6 Nov 2003, 17:47

Hi Chris...

...look, what I wrote...

Originally posted by Floyd Anderson Hi Chris !...I was New Zealand, as u know, so I couldn't get the Sunderland gig - don't forget me, buddy !:DGreetz, Floyd Anderson.chatmaster1@gmx.at

Thx & Greetz, Floyd Anderson.

chatmaster1@gmx.at

6 Nov 2003, 19:28

You haven't been forgotten mate - email me on chrisnash@mrnice.co.uk and let me know your snail mail address...

:beer:

25 Nov 2003, 15:08

I know I am getting annoying but I got used to DNE!!! It's like a hardcore drug now!!!! When and what will be my next fix, Chris? :D

25 Nov 2003, 17:11

Unfortunatly, I needed to shut down DNE. No because someone made me do it, it's because I need the server space. we'll get it started again after the new year, but it will not be known as Dreams Never End any longer

26 Nov 2003, 12:41

:cry: Well, too bad for the moment!!! But still a lot of thanks for the previous shows to u and Chris!