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29 Jul 2003, 10:57

http://www.dreamsneverend.com

New Order live at Sheffield City Hall, UK, 14th June 1986

New update includes option to download CD cover in either .PNG or .TIF format

All the best,

WenOrder & Chris

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29 Jul 2003, 11:06

Quality. And a good idea to make the cover too, nice one.

29 Jul 2003, 11:17

Cheers Al - making the inlays was originally Wen's idea when we first started the site.

Unfortunately (or fortunately!) he's really busy at the moment, so the site is up to me - any suggestions/complaints, etc, anyone is welcome to let me know.

Hope to meet up with you and the others, next time there's a piss-up in London...

29 Jul 2003, 12:42

thanx!!! Nice downloadspeed :)

29 Jul 2003, 13:02

Hi y'all...

...it's just a good one !... :clap:

Greetz, Floyd Anderson.

chatmaster1@gmx.at

29 Jul 2003, 13:13

:clap: We finally brought DNE back to life! yay!

29 Jul 2003, 13:24

Like I said - my pc is working now... :wink:

29 Jul 2003, 13:27

Thanks very much :clap: :D

29 Jul 2003, 13:47

Originally posted by Nanne a.k.a. SkullCrusher thanx!!! Nice downloadspeed :)

Yeah, send your ISP a big fat tip. My downloads peaked at 290.1 Kbps! :jawdrop:

29 Jul 2003, 14:07

Yeah, thanks heaps lots Chris and Wen!!!

29 Jul 2003, 14:59

thanks alot chris... however, sheffield city hall was the worst new order gig ever and im sure dreams was never played during a very short set..

you may have got it confused with the sheff uni gig a year earlier...this definately included dreams and as a gig was in a different class..

i went to both but have a very poor memory..perhaps i could be wrong

29 Jul 2003, 15:01

please ignore previous message.. i am old and easily get confused !!!

29 Jul 2003, 15:09

No problem, Paul - I made sure that I checked with the incredibly reliable NOOL Tour section first... ..surely BOTH of us couldn't have been wrong...? :laugh:

And you're a couple of years younger than me... eeeek!

29 Jul 2003, 15:22

what about the polls for the next update? or it will be only your decision? (which is fine for me, you´re the bosses ;) )

29 Jul 2003, 15:29

too busy to administer the polls. So I guess it'll be chris's decision. Unless someone wants to help out

29 Jul 2003, 15:54

:nono:

Illegal bootlegging.. tsk tsk tsk

:D

Which reminds me, NOOL had 5 gigabytes of live mp3s 2 years ago, we had to drop them because we were accused of bootlegging by Reprise, and caused us a lot of trouble and being called a "black sheep", all around.

So we don't know who told them, but someone did, you can scale down to two people :D

29 Jul 2003, 15:57

Oh yeah...

The usual disclaimer: NewOrderOnline has nothing to do with this site, but I can't stop free speach on this board!

P/S: Chris, none of the site as "UK" and "US" works anymore.. point to neworderretro.com for the UK and find the Rhino website for the US (it should be in the links here)

29 Jul 2003, 16:07

fixed

29 Jul 2003, 16:23

Originally posted by Spotnick Which reminds me, NOOL had 5 gigabytes of live mp3s 2 years ago, we had to drop them because we were accused of bootlegging by Reprise, and caused us a lot of trouble and being called a "black sheep", all around.

And I only had time to download 2 concerts !!! :(

29 Jul 2003, 16:30

No one cares more about...what's that band again?...New Order than Reprise Records.

If I had downloaded these illegal bootlegs, I'm sure by now I'd be digging on Barney's crazy whammy-bar feedback in "This Time of Night," soaking up the raw energy of "Everything's Gone Green," and generally revelling in what a tough live band this was.

29 Jul 2003, 16:43

Originally posted by Spotnick Illegal bootlegging.. tsk tsk tsk :DWhich reminds me, NOOL had 5 gigabytes of live mp3s 2 years ago, we had to drop them because we were accused of bootlegging by Reprise, and caused us a lot of trouble and being called a "black sheep", all around.So we don't know who told them, but someone did, you can scale down to two people :D

Thanks for that Nic, and to re-affirm that - NewOrder Online and its webmasters have NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with DNE.

I have been going on what Hooky said in 1985 - 'If anyone has copies of our gigs, get 'em out there, cos I'd like to hear them'

If he changes his mind, perhaps he'll email me and let me know.

Cheers Hooky. :beer:

30 Jul 2003, 00:15

Well, I wasn't expecting them to dig out some of them and put them on Retro though :D

I doubt New Order will ever release another live CD, the Retro will be the sole one!!

The BBC one wasn't released by New Order's label, it doesn't count ;)

Sheesh, so many bands released DVD and CDs at the same moment, why isn't that what happens here? Why Reading 98 and Finsbury 2002 not on CD yet? I doubt it would cost London a fortune, they could do profit out of this!

30 Jul 2003, 12:01

Originally posted by Al Jarvis Quality. And a good idea to make the cover too, nice one.

So long as no enterprising entrepeneurs out there misuse them to set up a cottage bootlegging industry, all is OK.

Seriously, the number of times I've seen (or heard reports of) stuff for sale on the likes of eBay at hugely inflated prices, when it's readily available for free elsewhere (at least approved by the band, irrespective of the legality) is positively shocking.

30 Jul 2003, 14:32

Enterprising entrepreneurs? Cottage Industry? You mean we could have made money out of that, instead of doing it completely for free???

DOH! :nuts:

30 Jul 2003, 14:40

Hi Chris, great recording, thanks. BTW, you fucked up the link to the back cover pictures... They're all pointing to the front cover.

30 Jul 2003, 15:43

Ooops... sorry about the incorrect link - I was tired and it was around 4am... All sorted now. I'm one big fuck-up really!

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31 Jul 2003, 01:44

Originally posted by Chris Ooops... sorry about the incorrect link - I was tired and it was around 4am... All sorted now. I'm one big fuck-up really!

Hey, at least you didn't get a "D" in basic HTML (like some people...such as myself :cry: )

31 Jul 2003, 04:07

You can bet your bottom dollar that within a month someone will be selling this on E-bay, particularly as you've made it easy for them by designing a cover !

Seriously, making stuff available this way is asking for trouble, restricted access to secure area is the only way you can make recordings available without having some piss-taking bastard profitteer from your generosity and jeopardise your site and even possibly recordings collection.

31 Jul 2003, 08:10

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31 Jul 2003, 11:08

Originally posted by Known Pleasures You can bet your bottom dollar that within a month someone will be selling this on E-bay, particularly as you've made it easy for them by designing a cover !Seriously, making stuff available this way is asking for trouble, restricted access to secure area is the only way you can make recordings available without having some piss-taking bastard profitteer from your generosity and jeopardise your site and even possibly recordings collection.

Well, thanks to all who have left comments/suggestions.

As a result of the above, and similar (and we appreciate these - thanks) we have decided to make DNE a password protected site.

It will be available ONLY to registered Neworderonline members - requests for passwords should be directed to either myself (thirt33nth_man@hotmail.com) or to WenOrder on his email address.

We will be checking places like Ebay etc. and if any concerts/inlays are advertised for sale, we will delete our site immediately.

We make no profit whatsoever from the DNE site and may we assure everyone that no 'official' releases will ever be posted - we have never intended to reduce the band's or record companies' revenues and intend to continue in this vein.

It is a site for fans to hear gigs that they couldn't attend for whatever reason.

Hope that clears things up a bit and that you understand our reasons for taking this action.

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