Your own Best Of Electronic?

My golly, I was gonna do this thread when i saw this any way

1. Disappointed
2. Getting Away with it
3. Patients of a saint (since I am a hard core pet shop boys fan)
4. Freefall
5. Visit Me
6. Flicker
7. If there was love (edit)
8. Out of my legue
9. Prodical son
10. Warning sign
11. In some distant memory
12. One day

Mine would include these songs with single mixes or edits where appropriate:

Getting away with it Get the message Feel every beat Tighten up Idiot country Disappointed Forbidden city Dark angel Until the end of time How long Make it happen Twisted tenderness Prodigal son Late at night

01 Getting Away With It 02 Get The Message (7" Mix) 03 Tighten Up 04 Some Distant Memory 05 Feel Every Beat 06 Disappointed (7" Mix) 07 Forbidden City 08 For You (Single Mix) 09 Out Of My League 10 Second Nature (Edit) [US Promo CD] 11 Until The End Of Time (12” Version) [Fluffy Dice Remix] 12 Vivid (Radio Edit) 13 Prodigal Son 14 Twisted Tenderness 15 Make It Happen (Ice-T samples) 16 Late At Night (Radio Edit)

Typically, this is actually faultless - chronological, singles, rare edits, one even rarer mix and a set of samples that will never see the light of day - and it should be the disc to go with the DVD come September. BUT, since there is that DVD instead of a 2nd B-sides/mixes disc, it would maybe be a shame to overlook these other tracks. Especially given that the singles tended to be more guitar-driven, presumably to garner more radio play; and wasn't the initial inspiration for Electronic to be more dance/groove/beats - based to begin with? And to collaborate with other musicians in the process. With this in mind, the chronology has been waived and then reversed in favour of a mix where the guitars start the proceedings and the synths end them. So, for what it is worth ie. not alot...

1 Get The Message 2 For You 3 Haze 4 Forbidden City 5 Feel Every Beat 6 Late At Night 7 Second Nature 8 Vivid 9 Tighten Up 10 Let’s Make It Happen 11 Getting Away With It 12 Free Will 13 Until The End Of Time (Fluffy Dice) 14 Twisted Tenderness 15 Dark Angel 16 Some Distant Memory 17 Disappointed 18 I Feel Alright 19 Soviet

It tries to bear in mind that some album tracks should probably remain album tracks no matter how great they are (IDIOT COUNTRY, FLICKER, PRODIGAL SON, OUT OF MY LEAGUE, all IMHO) while also keeping songs from the same album away from each other. I've not timed this up properly but obviously would just play around with (radio) edits to get it as close to the 80 minute mark as possible. And if something had to go it would be SECOND NATURE and/or UNTIL THE END OF TIME, with the RTP tracks rather fittingly being under pressure here. HAZE could/should have been the 1st comeback single off the third album; I FEEL ALRIGHT is classic Barney - less-than-great lyrics but that was probably down to him being more interested in the gorgeous synth lines he was putting down for this one and that is why it is here. FREE WILL encapsulates white -label- wannabe Electronic prefectly and while I've yet to play this mix through, I don't think anything could finish things off with more a elegant yet sombre sense of finality than SOVIET. With regards to the proposed September release; hopefully the mastering and sleeve will be decent, and that IMITATION OF LIFE is edited for the best as that workman clang outro, which was never a good idea in the first place, is definitely a waste of time on a compilation. Obviously a shame that this track, as well as ALL THAT I NEED and two single mixes represents their best efforts at making it interesting but that's just the way it goes. And if we all post our wishful Best Of's we can at least get 'closure' on this wasted opportunity...?

N

I`d rather have a best of The Other Two. Or rather a compilation of the TV stuff S&G have done in the past.

[orange]steve[/orange][black]one[/black] wrote: I`d rather have a best of The Other Two. Or rather a compilation of the TV stuff S&G have done in the past.

Best & Marsh - bring it on!

And thus, through our collective posts, the 'I FEEL ALRIGHT Fanclub' was born. :)

Any more for any more? The synth break towards the end is guaranteed to give you goose-bumps, even after a few thousand listens...

Off the top of my head, not in chronological order and not worrying about mixes, etc...

Idiot Country Vivid Get The Message Imitation Of Life Getting Away With It For You Gangster Make It Happen Lucky Bag Disappointed Out Of My League Some Distant Memory Forbidden City

SHEDi xxx

Bring back the Bag! Dated but in a good way since it captures the early days so well, along with the two that follow it. The Pets don't need the royalties either...

From: Ally To: Music for pleasure Sent: 20 July 2006 15:58:07 Subject: RE: Your own Best Of Electronic?

After a bit of thought and chucking around a few tracks in iTunes, this is how my second rarities disc for my own (custom!) Electronic Best Of would look like:

01 Lucky Bag 02 Get The Message (DNA Groove Mix 12") 03 Free Will (12") 04 Second To None 05 Idiot Country Two 06 Imitation Of Life 07 Out Of My League 08 All That I Need 09 Second Nature (Modern Mix Radio Edit) 10 Turning Point 11 Until The End Of Time (K-Klassic Mix) 12 Prodigal Son (Harvey's A Star In Your Own Mind Mix Edit) [My Own Edit 4:15] 13 King For A Day 14 Make It Happen (Darren Price Mix) 15 Warning Sign

I think there are a lot of good candidates from their catalog, but here is my list at the moment (in chronological order):

1. Idiot Country
2. Reality
3. Tighten Up
4. The Patience of a Saint
5. Gangster
6. Try All You Want
7. Some Distant Memory
8. Make It Happen
9. Twisted Tenderness
10. When She's Gone
11. Forbidden City
12. For You
13. Dark Angel
14. Until The End Of Time
15. Second Nature
16. If You've Got Love
17. Freefall
18. Visit Me
19. How Long

I'm tempted to add Disappointed, and a couple more tracks from RTP, in particular, but I have to stop somewhere!

DISC 1:

GettingAwayWithIt (FullLength) IdiotCountry Reality FeelEveryBeat TightenUp ForYou DarkAngel UntilTheEndOfTime Freefall HowLong LateAtNight TwistedTenderness WhenShe’sGone Flicker

DISC 2:

All the BSides + a couple of cutting room floor unreleased tracks.

Why oh why aren't they doing disc 2???

You've inspired me, and coming in at a magical 78 minutes is the following noorder Best of Electronic...

1. Getting away with it (Extended version)
2. Tighten up
3. Get the message (12" DNA Groove Mix)
4. Some distant memory
5. Feel every beat (album version)
6. Disappointed
7. Forbidden city
8. Second nature
9. Freefall
10. Time can tell
11. Vivid
12. Haze
13. Can't find my way home
14. Twisted tenderness
15. Flicker

And on reflection it's rather conservative. No space for I feel alright, Imitation of life (which 3 minutes too long anyway), Patience of a saint, or the magical Gangster. Hmm... Back to the drawing board?

[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote: The best b-sides and remixes (IMO) plus a couple of exclusives like the Second Nature Modern Mix 7" from the US promo CD-R and the K-Klass UTEOT. I left off Lucky Bag, Radiation and Lean To The Inside cos I thought better tracks could take their place; having said that I do think Radiation's really good, Lucky Bag too (bit dated).

Warning Sign is a brilliant track to close any CD with

Well done. Don't think that I'd be able to make an 80 minute Best of Electonic tracklist because there are too many Edits and Remixes that I'm just not familiar with.

12 August 2006 ! Friends, Family Sport.

noorder (aka Barcaboy99) wrote: You've inspired me, and coming in at a magical 78 minutes is the following noorder Best of Electronic...

1. Getting away with it (Extended version)
2. Tighten up
3. Get the message (12" DNA Groove Mix)
4. Some distant memory
5. Feel every beat (album version)
6. Disappointed
7. Forbidden city
8. Second nature
9. Freefall
10. Time can tell
11. Vivid
12. Haze
13. Can't find my way home
14. Twisted tenderness
15. Flicker

And on reflection it's rather conservative. No space for I feel alright, Imitation of life (which 3 minutes too long anyway), Patience of a saint, or the magical Gangster. Hmm... Back to the drawing board?

I've been playing this compilation in my car for a few weeks now and good god what a fookin great band they were! I had completely forgotten how Electronic got me thru the 90s when NO were dormant.

I will buy the Best of... but doubt I'll play it much as I'm very happy with my own Best of... thank you very much.

My ultimate Best Of Electronic will be a 2x dual cd/dvd set: disc 1 cd-side: Get The Message - The Best Of [there's enough space for more album tracks] disc 1 dvd-side: Videos disc 2 cd-side: Turning Point - Collected B-sides disc 2 dvd-side: Feel Every Beat - The Remixes

Craig W wrote:

Why oh why aren't they doing disc 2???

They'll just do a Best of: Volume 2, in a couple of years, when they're low on cash and/or ideas.

musicoloog wrote:

My ultimate Best Of Electronic will be a 2x dual cd/dvd set: disc 1 cd-side: Get The Message - The Best Of [there's enough space for more album tracks] disc 1 dvd-side: Videos disc 2 cd-side: Turning Point - Collected B-sides disc 2 dvd-side: Feel Every Beat - The Remixes

Flash bsatard!

musicoloog wrote:

Nice one - could you elaborate on the COLOURS track? Know that Marr worked on the soundtrack for the film with Charlie Drayton but was not aware that anything had seen the light of day - is this from that period? Any info would be much appreciated.

Thanks

N

Nick M wrote: Nice one - could you elaborate on the COLOURS track? Know that Marr worked on the soundtrack for the film with Charlie Drayton but was not aware that anything had seen the light of day - is this from that period? Any info would be much appreciated.

Thanks

N

Don't believe it ever got finished - it was a cover version of a Donovan song (with Shaun Ryder) - mentioned a lot in the time in interviews in the late '80's/early '90's, especially when Shuan was married (?) to Donovan's daughter...

Certainly, nothing's ever been released...

Nick King wrote:

Nick M wrote: Nice one - could you elaborate on the COLOURS track? Know that Marr worked on the soundtrack for the film with Charlie Drayton but was not aware that anything had seen the light of day - is this from that period? Any info would be much appreciated.

Thanks

N

Don't believe it ever got finished - it was a cover version of a Donovan song (with Shaun Ryder) - mentioned a lot in the time in interviews in the late '80's/early '90's, especially when Shuan was married (?) to Donovan's daughter...

Certainly, nothing's ever been released...

...yet. From what I remember it seems they've recorded the song, but didn't want to use it anymore as Shaun Ryder was doing a lot of drugs and alcohol at that time... (bad publicity); the Disappointed release was probably the alternative...

If this song really isn't 'available' I would replace it by Imitation Of Life (New (single) edit)... and probably add an edit of Get The Message (DNA mix) as well... as hidden bonus track!

musicoloog wrote:

Nick King wrote:

Nick M wrote: Nice one - could you elaborate on the COLOURS track? Know that Marr worked on the soundtrack for the film with Charlie Drayton but was not aware that anything had seen the light of day - is this from that period? Any info would be much appreciated.

Thanks

N

Don't believe it ever got finished - it was a cover version of a Donovan song (with Shaun Ryder) - mentioned a lot in the time in interviews in the late '80's/early '90's, especially when Shuan was married (?) to Donovan's daughter...

Certainly, nothing's ever been released...

...yet. From what I remember it seems they've recorded the song, but didn't want to use it anymore as Shaun Ryder was doing a lot of drugs and alcohol at that time... (bad publicity); the Disappointed release was probably the alternative...

If this song really isn't 'available' I would replace it by Imitation Of Life (New (single) edit)... and probably add an edit of Get The Message (DNA mix) as well... as hidden bonus track!

'Colours' was never finished - just the backing tracks...

From the Factory discog:

"FAC 292 SHAUN RYDER: Colours n/a

Additional Notes:

Ryder wanted to release a solo single of this Donovan song. Apparently the backing music was recorded with Electronic, but the song was never finished."

Also, I don't believe that Imitation Of Life has a 'New Single Edit', despite what the NME reported (at least not on the promo, it might be on the final release out tomorrow)?

I'm one of the few that is probably excited about this official release. I never bothered to pick up the cd for the glorious debut and to say that my cassette is completely worn out and hanging together by some thread is being kind... Hopefully Rhino will remaster/release a deluxe double version of this fantastic album with a complete set of b-sides, some live versions from Dodger Stadium gig, and some of the better remixes on the bonus disc.

For the best of, I too was initially disappointed at the first track listing posted, but with the addition of Second Nature and Twisted Tenderness this is a much better collection. I personally would have started the whole thing off with Soviet as an intro, and closed the set with Flicker. I would have substituted "Until the End of Time" for "Out of My League" and "Patience of a Saint" for "Disappointed". Otherwise, I think it is a pretty good representation of the different sides of the band.

Like someone else said above, thank goodness for Electronic helping fill the void during the 90s hiatus. I always liked New Order but didn't get into them heavily until 1993, which was the wrong time to do that!!!

musicoloog, some of these edits (below) have got to be bootleg or fan creations? I don't ever recall Prodigal Son or Make It Happen (Darren Price) "Promo Edits" existing anywhere officially!

Could be... (well, you can't know anything... I'm a fan too, but discover new edits/versions every now and then as well!) Anyway I like them... so might you promo edits?

Everybody must know that musicoloog is one of the best (music)editors I've ever have heard about (his creations). So it's an honour to me that he has taken one of MY (music)edits for a video he made. Finally it's worth it to listen to the edits of him 'cause they're made without destroying the original structure of the tune. End of monologue.

|cv|

My best of electronic would be:

1. Get the message

thats it.

chronovisor wrote: Everybody must know that musicoloog is one of the best (music)editors I've ever have heard about (his creations)... ...it's worth it to listen to the edits of him 'cause they're made without destroying the original structure of the tune. End of monologue.

|cv|

What else can I say? (That's exactly what has always been my intention; never ruin the structure of the original track!)

chronovisor wrote: So it's an honour to me that he has taken one of MY (music)edits for a video he made.

|cv|

And perhaps one day I will use one of your edits again, chronovisor

Mine would be

CD1 - GET THE MESSAGE:THE BEST OF ELECTRONIC

1. Free will (12" version)
2. Getting away with it (Extended)
3. Get the message (Single mix)
4. Some distant memory
5. Feel every beat (7" mix)
6. Tighten up (Single version)
7. Disappointed
8. Forbidden city
9. Imitation of life
10. A new religion
11. For you (Single version)
12. All that I need
13. Vivid (Radio edit)
14. Twisted tenderness
15. Flicker
16. Warning sign
17. Late at night (Radio edit)

CD2 - Bonus Tracks

1. Getting away with it (Live @ Wembley 1991)
2. Feel every beat (Live @ Wembley 1991)
3. Lucky bag (Miami edit)
4. Idiot country two
5. Get the message (DNA groove mix)
6. Feel eveey beat (Tactile mix)
7. Second to none
8. Until the end of time (K-klass mix)
9. I feel alright
10. Second nature (Plastik mix)
11. Turning point
12. Make it happen (Darren Price mix)
13. Radiation

...A DVD could make an entirely separated release -- or a 3 disc set perhaps? -- containing every promo, plus the alternate versions for Getting Away With It, Get The Message, Feel Every Beat and the promo for Late At Night, plus TV appearances (TOTP, Haze @ Jo Whiley, Out Of My League & Second Nature @ Later... etc.)

The official CD sleeve looks just fine IMHO, so no suggestions on it.

darran clarke wrote: My best of electronic would be:

1. Get the message

thats it.

So you`ve had your Best Of Electronic for 15 years then!

JeffMo wrote: I'm one of the few that is probably excited about this official release. I never bothered to pick up the cd for the glorious debut and to say that my cassette is completely worn out and hanging together by some thread is being kind...

Well, all 3 albums are still in print ya know. :p

disc 1: getting away with it (extended version) all that i need vivid get the message lucky bag twisted tenderness free will (extended version or 12" version) second to none how long disappointed (single mix) late at night lean to the inside like no other some distant memory

disc 2: live @ dodger stadium on 4 aug 90 & 5 aug 90

I've only given the first album major play, only listened to the others once or twice, and never heard any b-sides, but here's my list

Getting Away With It Some Distant Memory Forbidden City Tighten Up Make It Happen Warning Sign Idiot Country Vivid Out Of My League EDIT: Try All You Want!

It's not a long list! but I think it shows off what Electronic did best without grating. Unfortunately a lot of what they did was too lightweight.

I was deeply saddened to see the pathetic best of electronic collection recently released.

here's what my best of would be, in no particular order, and of course it would have to be digitally remastered.

1. Free Will
2. Reality
3. Try All You Want
4. Getting Away With It
5. Get the Message
6. Dark Angel
7. Until The End Of Time
8. Idiot Country
9. Idiot Country 2
10. If you've got love

But man, if you want the best, you should try to pick up the black (not red) version of the first electronic album. It's digitally remastered and sounds so much better than the original. I had it, then it was stolen, and then I had to buy it again mail order. It's worth it. http://www.worldinmotion.net/electronic/discography/albums/1991/electronic.htm

Regards,

Daniel

Daniel Carr wrote: I was deeply saddened to see the pathetic best of electronic collection recently released.

here's what my best of would be, in no particular order, and of course it would have to be digitally remastered.

1. Free Will
2. Reality
3. Try All You Want
4. Getting Away With It
5. Get the Message
6. Dark Angel
7. Until The End Of Time
8. Idiot Country
9. Idiot Country 2
10. If you've got love

But man, if you want the best, you should try to pick up the black (not red) version of the first electronic album. It's digitally remastered and sounds so much better than the original. I had it, then it was stolen, and then I had to buy it again mail order. It's worth it. http://www.worldinmotion.net/electronic/discography/albums/1991/electronic.htm

Regards,

Daniel

How does the (black) remastered version sound better? Updated sounds, or cleaned up the recording?

How does the (black) remastered version sound better? Updated sounds, or cleaned up the recording?

Tracklist and track length is the same. it's just cleaner and brighter so you can hear more detail. If you have a decent stereo/speakers or good headphones, you can really tell a difference. For me, it was like a CD vs. a cassette. The cassette sounded great until I heard the CD. :-)