The Other Two re-release/s on LTM
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I hope "Super Highways" is not compressed - the reason I am buying it is to upgrade on the ITunes mp3 files I bought ages ago.
I wouldn't be totally surprised though. I was listening today to Section 25's new CD "Nature & Degree". Some great tunes - much better than the last two New Order albums. The tracks with the female vocals actually remind me of classic Other Two tracks. However, the sound on this LTM CD really puts me off - there is virtually no dynamic range.
I was waiting to buy LTM's reissue of Certain Ratio's "Force" album (due for release in February). However, after recent loud CDs I spotted a Factory original on eBay and bought that instead.
LTM's CD version of Quando Quango's Pigs + Battleships is quite good though. It's from 2003 if I'm correct. The same year the Revenge CD's were done.
Nick King wrote:
twp wrote: What's the story with 'Satisfied'? Is it because Steven & Gillian didn't want it on the rerelease or because they couldn't include it??
I guess only Steve and Gillian will know the answer?
I'm kind of glad that satisfied isn't on there since i'd only recently purchased the qwest innocence 12". it cost a bit too much really as I don't think the k-klass mixes are much good. The love to infinity mix is brilliant though.
Can someone talk about what the bonus tracks are like? I'm most interested in knowing what the pascal mixes are like.
Finally, they arrived yesterday! However, The Other Two And You has no transparent jewel/inlay case like Super Highways does. Looks a bit/slighty different in layout also, but that's a minor issue, I will give away the 1st album because I already have all the tracks on it
Finally got round to listening to my new LTM copy of "Superhighways" this afternoon and .....oh dear !
Warning : This CD is loud ....stupidly loud.
On my amp I can only get to about the first 10% of my volume control before the music is too loud. This is ridiculous - as you can see from the graphic analysis of the first track "You can fly" the CD is completely brickwalled :-
...I thought LTM was above this sort of malarkey. I thought record companies had realized by now that this is not what we want. The CD is completely relentless in it's sound quality - it just batters you into submission. This is so disappointing - the original London was so rare that I only had mp3 files from iTunes. I was therefore looking to this CD for a sonic upgrade but this new CD has no dynamic range.
...I am going to have to go for lie down now the CD has given me a headache.
P.S If James Nice is reading this - you need to be careful about this mate. Previous CDs on LTM have mostly been OK - this is the loudest one I've heard yet. I for one will be very careful before buying any more LTM discs.
Adam Tate wrote: Finally got round to listening to my new LTM copy of "Superhighways" this afternoon and .....oh dear !
Warning : This CD is loud ....stupidly loud.
On my amp I can only get to about the first 10% of my volume control before the music is too loud. This is ridiculous - as you can see from the graphic analysis of the first track "You can fly" the CD is completely brickwalled :-
...I thought LTM was above this sort of malarkey. I thought record companies had realized by now that this is not what we want. The CD is completely relentless in it's sound quality - it just batters you into submission. This is so disappointing - the original London was so rare that I only had mp3 files from iTunes. I was therefore looking to this CD for a sonic upgrade but this new CD has no dynamic range.
...I am going to have to go for lie down now the CD has given me a headache.
P.S If James Nice is reading this - you need to be careful about this mate. Previous CDs on LTM have mostly been OK - this is the loudest one I've heard yet. I for one will be very careful before buying any more LTM discs.
I totally agree.
I was so excited to hear about LTM's remaster project of this one because, also, I never got a London copy back in 1999. Searched for it on fairs and music stores but never succeed. Finally 10-and-a-half years later I got a copy, only to experience this farce. It reminded me of the New Order disaster in late 2008, except for the fact that this one is not from vynil and doesn't have the clicks and pops and/or volume drop-outs.
Just listened to this CD in my hi-fi stereo set (a JVC from 1996) and normally I listen to my music at about 30% of the volume ... with Super Highways I got a 'BANG!'-erlebnis with the opening track and the rest ... had to turn down the volume immediately because of my ears and the neighbours ... this is now on 7% of the volume AND STILL LOUD !!!
R.I.D.I.C.U.L.O.U.S.
Another issue I found out: The 2nd track (Super Highways) is different than on the CD-single (London, twocd3) . I thought they were identical. The intro is weird and the track is faded out instead of the abrupt ending as I know. I was wondering if this is the same case on the original London album CD.
From LTM I bought the two Revenge CD's, the Cool As Ice/Twice As Nice CD's and a Quando Quango CD. They all were good.
I will not buy any more CD's from LTM. Period.
Yes they clearly had the master tapes for this release.
There is no excuse - the person who did the mastering for LTM is a cretin.
To be honest and while I myself am no fan of brickwalled mastered CDs, I only really bought both of them for the bonus disc which as far as I can tell via Cool Edit is not brickwalled and has some interesting stuff on it. I was never all that pissed off with the sound of my original O2 CDs so they're still the main rips I listen to.
Sound issues aside, it's obvious now "Movin On" must have been in the running to be a single at some point; possibly after Tasty Fish. The acoustic guitar on "Sawdust" also seems to be replicating the chorus melody to Bizarre Love Triangle pretty faithfully... Autosound is a nice bit of early 90s ambient dance... these little extras are more than we'd get from most bands really.
An interesting listen and for those interested the Moby Mix of Selfish on the debut reissue is NOT the same as the one on the Selfish Qwest CD Single. Same sort of "vibe" but definitely a different remix.
Well, if you want to hear Satisifed, and some TV Themes, head over to the official site:
Nick King wrote: Well, if you want to hear Satisifed, and some TV Themes, head over to the official site:
Not only can you hear them, but you can download all 6 of those tracks for free, just clicky on the down arrow in the player - I'm no O2 expert here, but I think they are all otherwise unavailable, some TV soundtrack stuff there. Most excellent!
CTB
CTB wrote:
Nick King wrote: Well, if you want to hear Satisifed, and some TV Themes, head over to the official site:
Not only can you hear them, but you can download all 6 of those tracks for free, just clicky on the down arrow in the player - I'm no O2 expert here, but I think they are all otherwise unavailable, some TV soundtrack stuff there. Most excellent! CTB
Oh yes - that's probably unintentional, so I'll do that straight away! :p ;)
The download links were working last night when I went to bed, but they're not working now. Did anyone manage to grab them all and is willing to share?
They are still available to download,maybe it depends on your location? Either way,nice one.
£50 Note wrote: The download links were working last night when I went to bed, but they're not working now. Did anyone manage to grab them all and is willing to share?
PM sent
bc2323 wrote: rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
mp3 at 128
Well, considering they've yet to be released, and aren't supposed to be downloadable... 
Well, "Culvers Edge" is lovely (but then I love the song they made from it as well) and "Jonno and Sean" is fantastic! I missed the chance to download them though, looks like Soundcloud only allows 100 or so downloads. Oh well.
bc2323 wrote: rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
mp3 at 128
Why don't you email them and ask for your money back? 
Well, Soundcloud has let me download the tracks now, and mighty fine they are. "Jonno and Sean" sounds even better blasted out loud. Those complaining about the sound quality must be in a super picky/moaning mood.
If anyone has the ear of those involved, please pass on thanks.
I've been listening to them off the site for the past few days - great stuff - only this morning realised they are downloadable - brilliant! Got the 6 now - they'll be on constant now till i get the remasters from LTM for the next birthday.
Bought the lot for the bonus disc, which was worth it.
Shame that America's Most Wanted wasn't there.
Nice. At least some clue as to why Satisfied didn't make it on the remasters; US licensing issues most likely. We can stop moaning (briefly) now
Be good to hear what else they're going to chuck up on the site.
Granada wrote: http://theothertwo.co.uk/2010/05/summers-here/
updated
Yep, 2 new tracks up there, Sawdust and Autosound; both downloadable....
Nick King wrote:
Michael Monkhouse wrote: Shame on LTM who did such a superb job on One True Passion!
Erm, it was probably Steve & Gillian who gave the tracks to LTM...
Anyway, I really like the CD's - they sound a lot clearer to me (although I'd obviously need to see graphs! :p ), and I like the bonus CD...
be careful, what you ask for! (well somebody beat me to the punch this time!)
i just got superhighways.. and though it sounds decent (i don't have the original for comparison)..
the sound is incredibly brickwalled, and lots of levels are pushed up really high.. ugh...
later -1
I was pretty disgusted with the brickwalled sound on last years LTM reissue of Superhighways.
I just found an original Japanese issue of the disc on eBay (1999 disc with 2 bonus tracks) - does anyone know if the mastering is better on these original discs i.e less compressed?
