New Order’s Stephen Morris and Gillian Gilbert announce reissue of debut album from The Other Two

https://www.nme.com/news/music/new-order-stephen-morris-gillian-gilbert-announce-reissue-the-other-two-debut-album-3616484

Featuring an unreleased version of Innocence:

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The Other Two are New Order’s Stephen Morris and Gillian Gilbert, who released their first album in 1993 shortly after the demise of Factory Records. Featuring the singles ‘Tasty Fish’ and ‘Selfish’ the album has been remastered and given a new sleeve for this reissue. The track listing features a new 7” remix of ‘Innocence’ which differs from the original.

Tracklisting

1. Tasty Fish

2. The Greatest Thing

3. Selfish

4. Movin’ On

5. Ninth Configuration

6. Feel This Love

7. Spirit Level

8. Night Voice

9. Innocence (Love To Infinity 7" Remix) *new version

10. Loved It (The Other Track)

...and they've launched a YouTube channel with that mix of Innocence:

That's odd... their original channel is still there

https://www.youtube.com/@theothertwoandyou

Could this be the start of some kind of campaign for new material? Hard to believe

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Mr. Disco wrote: That's odd... their original channel is still there

https://www.youtube.com/@theothertwoandyou

Could this be the start of some kind of campaign for new material? Hard to believe

Hard to believe, indeed.

My understanding was that two of the tracks off Music Complete, "Stray Dog" and "The Game", originated from music by Gillian and Stephen. It's likely they have other song ideas that weren't pursued. And they certainly could have been working on tracks since. But why now? It's heartening to think if this reissue does well, they would be emboldened to put new material out. But this reissue without extra tracks is a hard sell for me. And honestly, their second album is much better.

Agreed on Superhighways.

Regarding Music Complete, I'll always remember this 2012 interview:

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/gq-music-stephen-morris-joy-division-interview

Although I'm really pleased that this is getting a reissue (with a bonus track, to boot!), I can't help but rue the missed opportunity to not include some other rare tracks. Maybe some of the rarer remixes or, better still, some of the other soundtrack work that didn't make the LP.

I probably won't be getting this on vinyl, and the fact that it was only reissued in 2020 on CD, kind of puts me off buying it again on CD.

But, I probably will. Maybe if it sells well, the two of them might be tempted to release more stuff (including new material).

Looking at the NO Store, there appears to be a 'Free Fortune Teller Tasty Fish' with all pre-orders. Wonder what that is. Probably an OT-branded version one of those fish you used to get in Christmas crackers.

Sorry, Mr D. I missed that you'd already included the comment about the Fortune Telling Fish in your original post.

Whilst we're on the subject of rare OT stuff, anyone have a copy of the following:

Tasty Fish (OT Mix - 7" version) (3:37, from the 7" & cassette - not the longer version from the 12" and CD single) You Can Fly (Single Version) (4:19, from the withdrawn CD2 single)

I'm guessing the second one is rare, but the first one is pretty common. I do have it on cassette but don't have the means to play it anymore.

If anyone can supply a rip of either, I'd be very grateful.

Hmmm - looks like the 3:37 OT Mix is going to be on the RSD limited edition 12".

Never had the U Can Fly CD single. I have the Tasty Fish 7" but I'm unable to play it.

I might have the 7" myself, as well as the tape. But, again, I don't have a way of playing either.

Hopefully someone's ripped it.

As regards the 2 x 'You Can Fly' CDs, I think they were withdrawn (not sure why), so there are very few out there in the wild. I do have a copy of the "super Highways' CD single though.

perspexorange wrote: Whilst we're on the subject of rare OT stuff, anyone have a copy of the following:

Tasty Fish (OT Mix - 7" version) (3:37, from the 7" & cassette - not the longer version from the 12" and CD single) You Can Fly (Single Version) (4:19, from the withdrawn CD2 single)

I'm guessing the second one is rare, but the first one is pretty common. I do have it on cassette but don't have the means to play it anymore.

If anyone can supply a rip of either, I'd be very grateful.

Hmmm - looks like the 3:37 OT Mix is going to be on the RSD limited edition 12".

A quick visit here. Sadly my Dvd/Cd writer is in trouble at moment. But I own two cdj 2 lc 7654 biem/maps You Can Fly 4.19 You Can Fly quake vocal mix Voytek

I am sure I had other rare promos etc at this time NUTS...Steve from Yorkshire requested a plastic case of one of these items so probably was. Regards Rocket Mick

And I defo have the 7 inch..cassette and 12 inch. Didn't we treasure tat b4 recycling became a thing. Stuck in 1980s Rocket Mick..1970s to be honest!

The Super Highways Cd Single I have is a Promo.

Nice to see you posting, Rocket Mick!

That's a shame your CD writer is out of action. Would be nice to get that mix.

I know what you mean re losing NO stuff. There's a few items of mine I can't quite find anymore. Not least of which are my old bootleg tapes that had some rare interviews that I'd love to find.

I loved both of their albums ,looking forward to the new remix Tasty Fish (Gabe Gurnsey Remix) coming out for record store day, I heard some of Gabe Gurnsey's remixes on youtube and wasnt that impressed with them , lets see what he does with Tasty Fish

Innocence is one of my favorite tracks on the album. I wish they were leaving the original and adding the new Love To Infinity mix as a bonus, instead of a replacement.

perspexorange wrote:

That's a shame your CD writer is out of action. Would be nice to get that mix.

Might be able to assist here if still interested.

I have the cassette and 7” plus CD promo Mick mentioned. I’ll have the tracks ripped to hard drive somewhere.

Also have Part 1 of the recalled You Can Fly CD-singles – but Part 2 has eluded me for 30 years :)

depthcharge wrote: Might be able to assist here if still interested.

I have the cassette and 7” plus CD promo Mick mentioned. I’ll have the tracks ripped to hard drive somewhere.

Also have Part 1 of the recalled You Can Fly CD-singles – but Part 2 has eluded me for 30 years :)

That would be great; thanks in advance! Remembering the Quake Vocal Mix appeared on this CD:

https://www.discogs.com/pt\_BR/release/2113383-The-Other-Two-O2-Bonus-CD

Just pre-ordered the remastered TOT&U. Hopefully it won't take six months to arrive

depthcharge wrote:

perspexorange wrote:

That's a shame your CD writer is out of action. Would be nice to get that mix.

Might be able to assist here if still interested.

I have the cassette and 7” plus CD promo Mick mentioned. I’ll have the tracks ripped to hard drive somewhere.

Also have Part 1 of the recalled You Can Fly CD-singles – but Part 2 has eluded me for 30 years :)

That would be excellent, if you could find them!

When i saw the words Gig Of The Day, just for the briefest of moments I thought wait, are they...? Oh no they're not. But anyway this is tonight if you're in the Manchester area.

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50poundnote wrote: Innocence is one of my favorite tracks on the album. I wish they were leaving the original and adding the new Love To Infinity mix as a bonus, instead of a replacement.

Totally agree. I was close to buying on vinyl (maybe I still am) but that new mix of Innocence puts me off

perspexorange wrote: Looking at the NO Store, there appears to be a 'Free Fortune Teller Tasty Fish' with all pre-orders. Wonder what that is.

Hope that helps (didn't help me).

Mr. Disco wrote:

perspexorange wrote: Looking at the NO Store, there appears to be a 'Free Fortune Teller Tasty Fish' with all pre-orders. Wonder what that is.

Hope that helps (didn't help me).

Thanks. As I initially thought, it appears to be one of those novelty items we used to get in Christmas Crackers over here in the UK (probably elsewhere too).

Here's a bit of an explanation:

https://www.thoughtco.com/how-fortune-teller-miracle-fish-works-607867

HD upgrade for the Selfish video uploaded yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTZ1Tm8T-QI

I'm listening this album right now. Reissued /remastered in 2010, 2020, I think there's nothing to remaster /reissue again. I will get easily this Innocence new edit and will not buy this CD for the 4th time...

Got an email yesterday that my bundle has shipped - Vinyl, CD, "Selfish" t-shirt, and the little fortune teller "Tasty Fish." Lets see how long it takes to get to San Francisco.

Think I might be in trouble

I probably didn’t notice this on pre-order but, nonetheless, I was a little disappointed that the CD is in a card sleeve rather than a proper CD case.

NotAMod wrote:

I haven't been able to buy a CD in an old school jewel case in quite some time. The slim digisleeves, or digipak (if you're lucky) appear to be the norm now.

I think it's to do with "saving the planet" I.e., less plastic but they're difficult to store and very easily prone to bending/scuffing. So for the average music fan looking to store it in a consistent manner on a shelf, it's a 'mare.

The more substantial digipaks I don't mind as much because they usually store 2-3 CDs and a booklet, but a single CD album in a digisleeve feels really cheap IMO.

It's a shame really. The photos on the sleeve and inner are quite nice, but it just feels quite cheap. A booklet would've been nice.

NotAMod wrote: I've heard the new TOT&Y reissue and it's probably the best "modern" remaster of the album. The 2010 LTM/Fac Benelux version was pretty brick walled, but this new one is gentler on the ears.

Trainspotter alert: Innocence Love To Infinity aside, the 2024 Selfish is actually the Qwest promo cassette mix. The remaining tracks appear to match their 1993 counterparts.

While they were tweaking the running order, they should have gone the whole hog and dropped in the 7" Pascal Mix of Tasty Fish as track 1.

Good to know re the remastering. Haven't had chance to play it yet.

Hmmm - very interesting that the Promo version of Selfish is included. Makes me wonder if that mix was originally intended and the version we got officially was due to the wrong master being selected. Alternatively, maybe they picked up the wrong master this time. Maybe they just thought the original mix sounded better.

How about Ninth Configuration? I'm guessing that they haven't restored the 'Get Carter' quotes that they had to excise from the official release but were on th promo.

To be honest, although the Selfish/Innocence changes are minor, it does irk me a little bit that they didn't keep things as they were originally released. If they wanted to show off different mixes, maybe have these as additional bonus tracks ; just like the LTM ones did.

I guess they wanted to keep the LP/CD in sync and also wanted to keep the flow of the album, without adding too much bonus stuff.

So I pre-ordered on vinyl back in April and haven't received anything about it being shipped yet. Anyone else have that issue?

NotAMod wrote: Selfish is actually the Qwest promo cassette mix.

Discogs doesn't note any differences. How do they differ?

Thanks for the confirmation, NotAMod.

£50note - as far as we can tell the only differences between the promo LP and the official 1993 release were the different mix of Selfish and a version of Ninth Configuration which is practically the same mix but had sound clips from the film 'Get Carter' (the 1971 Caine original, not the remake). Presumably a non-sampled version was swapped in when they either couldn't get clearance from the copyright holders or maybe they just thought it wasn't worth 'jumping through hoops' to get the samples cleared.

Both tracks were a surprise to me when I heard them for the first time a couple of years ago.

perspexorange wrote: Thanks for the confirmation, NotAMod.

£50note - as far as we can tell the only differences between the promo LP and the official 1993 release were the different mix of Selfish and a version of Ninth Configuration which is practically the same mix but had sound clips from the film 'Get Carter' (the 1971 Caine original, not the remake). Presumably a non-sampled version was swapped in when they either couldn't get clearance from the copyright holders or maybe they just thought it wasn't worth 'jumping through hoops' to get the samples cleared.

Both tracks were a surprise to me when I heard them for the first time a couple of years ago.

I'd love to hear those if you or NotAMod would share.

PM sent.

I wonder whether the Qwest Advance Promo Tape is exactly the same as the ultra-rare Factory Records pressing of the LP. It's always possible that there were slight differences between the two. Considering how rare the Factory one is, I guess we'll probably never know.

Got my delivery in San Francisco today, so 7 days after mailing from the UK. Not bad! Love the new artwork for the vinyl and CD. Love that the fortune teller fish is branded as The Other Two with a colorful little card, and got the Selfish t-shirt. Will give it a wash before I wear it out.

There's a new feature on them on this month's Classic Pop:

I hope they get more than two pages, but I'll try to import it anyway as they're my favourite side project.

They actually got five pages. Nice piece overall

If anyone is interested

Many thanks for this, Mr. D.

Mr. Disco wrote: Just pre-ordered the remastered TOT&U. Hopefully it won't take six months to arrive

Only three months... that was fast.

Mr. Disco wrote: There's a new feature on them on this month's Classic Pop:

The above was 6 months ago. Is this the same interview? Posted on FB and twitter yesterday.

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or click this link.

Looks pretty much the same