NewOrderOnline v3.0 Technical Problems

Avoid to talk about the webmaster's stupid mistake who lead to a loss of messages, but you can go on with the rest of the bugs.

Alright, I lost most of your problems and bugs, that's not a good thing. If you see a few back, post them back please so I'm sure I don't forget them.

Last night I did change the way the thread (topic) list navigate, so all thread names & pages are pure hyperlinks.. the paging is till the same..

If that works for most of you, I'll add more and more.. seems faster than the other way, but that might just be me :D

I fixed the smilies bug too... it was stupid, what else

I fixed other things I forgot..!!

Okay, here we go again... Hmmm... Lemesee...

• Anyone can edit a post previously edited by its author.

• The avatar uploading is not working.

• The search engine is not working (Old Blue was the first one to point that out).

• The login is not working when you press Enter, you have to click on "Submit" button.

1. It's fixed now. Thanks.

2. Okay, I'll wait. It's nice to see Stroszek back anyway.

3. The search engine is working now, but searching only titles is useless IMHO.

4. Something is still wrong with the login. When I was not logged and tried to reply a thread I was redirected to the main page, not the reply page.

Originally posted by Bruno S. 1) It's fixed now. Thanks.2) Okay, I'll wait. It's nice to see Stroszek back anyway.3) The search engine is working now, but searching only titles is useless IMHO.4) Something is still wrong with the login. When I was not logged and tried to reply a thread I was redirected to the main page, not the reply page.

Yes, the problem is that it's too f***** long when you search in the messages.. it's well over the 30 seconds allowed by ASP.. I'll have to increase the database connection timeout and the asp execution timeout for this one.. and put a nice "Please Wait" message...

Funny your avatar was lost, I did arrange the avatars last night, I wonder how the hell I ended up with a few old ones.. I definitively need to take a break and organise my move instead of rushing it :D

Originally posted by Geri now it's sayingdid you really lose 9 days?!? what day is today according to this thing?!?

Yes we did

Database is from the 12th...

Is the time ok though?

I had to mess with the "Today" and "Tomorrow" to make sure everything works for everyone, I hope it does.. timezone offset is killing me :D

You can now upload avatars...

weird. i´m replying to a few threads and my posts go right before posts from Yesterday! not after! i wonder if that´s only me or is it a problem with that?

hmmm, i had no problems with THIS thread..... but i had with Community Appreciation Thread on the Community forum and My Apologies from the English forum.

Originally posted by almanso hmmm, i had no problems with THIS thread..... but i had with Community Appreciation Thread on the Community forum and My Apologies from the English forum.

That's a weird one.. unless the server has time problem.. I'll go check if the sort order has changed

It's fixed..

Go figure why suddenly this stopped working.

Now I have my co-webmaster yelling for bugs like that

The forum font is a little bigger now, I hope it's ok for everyone!

I installed Netscape 7.1 today, I'll do some tests, so far everything seems ok with it, I'll have to find when does the 3 columns appears...

I've seen worst, you should see the site we're doing at work with Netscape...

Originally posted by Captain Chaos do you think it's possible to link the songs in the "song live history" to the "song browser"?

Since you asked so nicely.. you got it...

Well, at this point the avatar is in place, I'm just letting the options to delete it :D... doing a confirm would probably be complicated for nothing I must say...

I might be a little more clear in the text though...

Well, good to know there are less and less.

Which links should be hyperlinks now? I don't mind when it's a redirection to another page, but I don't want to do it if it stays in the same page (for obvious reason)..

Putting hyperlinks speeds up the system since it does one request less, but when it's on the same page, it slows down the system! But I doubt you'd have to use those anyways ;)

Originally posted by TLV > Originally posted by Spotnick> Which links should be hyperlinks now? I don't mind when it's a redirection to another page, but I don't want to do it if it stays in the same page (for obvious reason)..

I'm not sure that I completely understand the question, but... these are the places where I'd like to see hyperlinks instead of the JavaScript method (in order of importance):

1. Topic list in a specific forum: already done.
2. Reply-button for a message (I like to keep the topic with its previous replies open while I'm writing my reply in another window)
3. Forum list in the forum index (to have several forums open)
4. The top hierarchy, i.e. "Dry 201 Message Pub > NewOrderOnline Technical Chat > NewOrderOnline v3.0 Technical Problems"
5. The selections in the famous menu...

Hope this helps, TLV

1. Done.
2. Hum.. I guess I can do that, I'll have to check if any logic is done behind that button...
3. Will do
4. It's not the case yet? I thought I did..
5. I'm not following, you mean the top menu? Be more explicit for the french guy here :D

4. It works on the forum page, not on the thread page.. I see

As for #5.. you are using 3 different browsers?!!!

Get IE + Crazy Browser, seems to do mostly what you want, and it's a plugin, not another one :D

looking at the polls i just realized how large fonts are on the items that have to be voted. they should have the same size as the posts ones, IMHO.

Nothing's perfect :D

I blame Microsoft for taking the market with dumping strategies, but like it or not, developer-wise, Internet Explorer is much better for us...

And blame AOL for never releasing Netscape v5.0, it took far too long to release a new version after 4.7!

As for Opera & Mozilla, I'm sure they are great, but it's evident that the "common joe" will use IE, since it's already installed with Windows.. there is no contest there!

Sucks, but unless they can fix a damn standard, so JavaScript & HTML would render and do the exact same thing, I'm very glad that IE wiped the market.. not the best technology, but it ease our job a lot!

Originally posted by anita i've noticed that it says i'm offline even when i'm online...any idea of what's wrong?thank you

The obvious, but...

1. Are you logged on?
2. Do you see yourself in the list of "Users Online" in the neworderonline menu above?
3. Did you check the option in the account options to have your online status "cloaked" ?

Thanks, there is a little work to do.. I also got Jeff White who is unable to post, due to a logon loop..

I'll remove the "built-in" logon and put back my own, this way I'll be able to debug it easily.

As for the online/offline, I'll have to do some tests, might be the same issue.

And Tim, I'll check your profile why it doesn't work, if you can copy/paste to me the error.. in email!

Originally posted by contrique Hello.1) This page http://www.neworderonline.com/Discography.aspx doesn't look good with Opera & Mozilla2) There is a problem with < & ><script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">alert ('Hello world');</script>

I don't know what is the problem, but since it seems to have work, I guess there is no problem...

As for the first one, we'll see..

I think I fixed the "logon-loop" bug.

This mainly happened to people using the ENTER key when logging on instead of clicking on the Submit button.

What happened was simple, when hitting the enter key, the logo up of this page was the event fired, which redirects to the home page.. hence, the user was never logged on.

I fixed it by changing the logo to a hyperlink instead of the "ImageButton" control, anyways TLV will like it since it's now a pure hyperlink

Originally posted by TLV > Originally posted by Spotnick> I fixed it by changing the logo to a hyperlink instead of the "ImageButton" control, anyways TLV will like it since it's now a pure hyperlink

Rule #1: Keep it simple.

Rule #2 for real engineers: If it ain't broke, try to improve it...

/TLV

So you know that I am an engineer right?

I found it very weird that nobody since the new version entered a profile as a new member, however, many registered.. so I went through the routine and bang, a few bugs..

They are all fixed now, so it should work like a charm for people who has no profile...

I will do some more tests, because I find it hard to believe nobody noticed the news room had no picture in it! So many bugs are not reported :D

Originally posted by Geri Nic, I have had to log-on three times in the past two hours because everytime I stop using the site for a bit (these people actually expect me to do some work now and then) it logs me off. What's the time limit on this thing? Can you remove it please?!?

It's standard Geri, if you are idle for 20 mins, the site will log you off...

I can increase it, but this will increase the amount of memory the server uses, etc.. 20 mins idle is pretty fair, if you have the autologon, it shouldn't even ask you to relog!

Originally posted by Spotnick So many bugs are not reported :D

Sometimes it's hard to spot the difference between a real bug and something that is not finished yet. What kind of bug are we supposed to report now?

Anything that is not reported here already.

I will make a list later in the first post of this thread of "things to do" and remove them when done.

Of course there are still things to do, they will be added sporadically, to be honest, I worked too hard on it I had to take a little break ;) So I'm working mostly week-ends now, if I have nothing to do.

If WenOrder has some free time someday, we'll have a few design changes, but so far, let's say that the fact that they are integrated with the old design (well, not everything.. I know), it's better.

And the website is a lot faster, I guess nobody can complain about that one!

Originally posted by Floyd Anderson Hi Nic......will the V3.0 get have links in the songbrowser as the V2.0 had ?; I hope, u know, what i mean; it was so comfortable...Greetz, Floyd Anderson.chatmaster1@gmx.at

Yes, I forgot about those.. but the discography also needs data entry, and I have to do the management part for that (and seriously, it's going to be long and painful).. so data won't be accurate until then.

You see, I "patched" it in v2.0, songs we listed by TRACKLISTING, not by actual "release" item, so I have to create each different release version of each discography item (Canadian release, UK release, etc) and associate them with the current entered tracklisting.

I also had the notion of "disc" which I found stupid after all, since I didn't need to actually create a "disc" entity, it was too long for nothing.

I'll start working on this tonigh.. once completed, I'll be able to do my "collection" thing, so everyone can mark an item as owned, and post REVIEWS & RATINGS of each item, it will be very easy (well.. it's my job, it's easy for me should I say) to do it.

Be patient, it'll turn out quite good...

when i post on a large thread i have no problems at all. but when i try to edit that post, after i submit, it just go to other page but the LAST. so to check out i have to go to the last page, which in very large threads (more than 10 pages) is not even showed on the thread. it just goes 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10.... but there´s not a LAST link. it happened to me twice on the FTP thread on the English Forum.

something weird just happened. i made 2 posts. one on the FTP thread and another on the GillianOutOfNewOrder thread. they simply vanished so i had to repost. i used to see them just fine but when i came back after a few hours they were not there!

Both posts are there Alejo...

5 AM might be too late for you

other the pages were stuck in the cache, that could be the case.. we never know with Macs..

those were reposts. the original ones just vanished... really!!!!!!

Originally posted by TLV Don't know this has been mentioned before - too lazy to read through the thread - but......when surfing the discography, the column with the scans end up being very wide since the pictures don't resize to a reasonable format. The same goes for each detailed entry. It'd be nice with a thumby instead.Oh yeah, Opera 7 on XP./TLV

Believe it or not, they are ok under ID

Oh well...

bugs on the "underrated song" thread (English) and on "an idea..." thread (Community). Ricardo quoted me on the first one and i quoted Nic on the other. both quotes appeared on top of the quoted post! how weird is that? some clock problem maybe?

Originally posted by The Haçienda must be (re)Built My piccy don't appear (only the red cross in a box) what am i doing wrong ?

Picture was 0k... so corrupted, you have to upload it again!

Originally posted by almanso bugs on the "underrated song" thread (English) and on "an idea..." thread (Community). Ricardo quoted me on the first one and i quoted Nic on the other. both quotes appeared on top of the quoted post! how weird is that? some clock problem maybe?

Yes, due to the eastern daylight time going back to standard time.. I fixed it, we don't sort by date anymore, but by ID ;)