The Wish List NewOrderOnline v5.0
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Never one to mince your words... 
I actually find that I've typed 'Snorri xxx' so many times that I often start doing it automatically at the end of e-mails, which is espcially worrying if they're work ones... 
Some sort of parental control feature might work - limit the amount of time some of us wasters spend on here... 
Snorri xxx
Mince words,very good
But we better rap-in on this thread or face the dreaded delete 
Nic asked us not to stray too far from the topic if memory serves.Pity.
Agreed - 'friends' are totally gay (as is the 'top 10 users in the last 24hrs' list) but PM's are useful as it means you don't have to divulge your e-mail address to every passing identity thief.
Another request for the ever useful IGNORE button, of course... 
Can we have an Australian international sub-forum please?
Perhaps you could call it something fancy and cosmopolitan like "Les Republique Digitales du Ustraya". Ronbo and I would get our own place to argue stuff out.
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Fookin' close it down, get rid of all the shite and start a smaller version that has accurate things on it
Seriously,
* Massively trim the forums, completely re-engineer the forums so that all posts after a month or something are archived or removed.
* Get rid of the visibility of the post counts, or atl east make their visibility an option controlled by the user.
* Either get the live pages and gig database correct or delete them and link to Sam's pages, as they are not only a load of shite but also perpetuate incorrect info. That database is still fucking up on Procession, has done since Day 1 and has been reported more times than the band have done encores.
* Get rid of that totally pointless "friends" thing.
* Delete all the dormant members after giving them a chance to post by sending them a link warning of deactivation unless they reply within 7 days.
* Remove all the extraneous content, like things that started as a good idea and ended up not getting past first base. You all know what I mean.
* Get them shite blogs off the site, mine included.
* Make it 100% certain that nothing posted on this site by any member can be picked up by Google or other search engines. You don't need to be demonstrating metadata capabilities for CV purposes now.....
* Give the mods a few tools for improving the site's content, like the capacity to delete the spammer (obviously such action would need regulation, easily done) and the ability to put the inflammatory poster on a yellow.
* Actually, just knock it on the head, they ain't coming back, those who want to socialise together know how to, and those who want to talk shite will always be able to find a way.
MONTY wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote: I'd kick out dirty old men like Comrade Shampanyov. People that like to fcuk with people's real lives. Perhaps you could add a cnut detector, Nicos.
I like the site as it is. Another NOOL Day would be nice though..
Pointless though. The last one only succeeded to the extent it did (and it made less than half the money I had hoped it would) because people were in London already for the gig the night before. If you want to see Re: Order play, they will no doubt be doing some gigs soon. Digital no longer exist, nobody batted an eyelid over their demise anyway, we can hardly ask Hooky to donate another DJ set fee, or Pottsy and Flight to give their time so readily.
Now if the Order were to reform and do a couple of dates somewhere, it might be feasible. Best find some mug to organise it though!
Kill the post counts.
Display links to all recent posts by a member once you click on their name/profile.
Streamline the forums.
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[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: delete threads that are over two years old,
NO! They can be very useful indeed - for research, pictures, etc. As long as there's enough server space, they should definitely stay.
Chris Nash wrote:
[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: delete threads that are over two years old,
NO! They can be very useful indeed - for research, pictures, etc. As long as there's enough server space, they should definitely stay.
Totally disagree. What should happen instead, if Nic really has the two weeks to turn it round and make it something that retains the interest of the people, then some of the most commonly used topics should be distilled and turned into an embellished FAQ that is both accurate and reflects the populice. The wealth of photos could be added to an enhanced photo gallery that becomes a useful resource. Old posts need to be deleted. The post counts can stay for those that are obsessed by them, at least the option to display your credentials as a mega poster, if that is what floats your boat, they needn't go down when posts are removed - set the current count as being the base level, and all new posts go up from there.
Server space will be enormusly helped by getting rid of the thousands of dormant accounts. I just had an email from the Bob Mould site asking me to log in again or face deletion, it's dead easy to do and will sort the wheat from the chaff. It's no kudos measure having thousands of people who are registered but never ever log in!
Couldnae give a monkeys about post counts,it matters not to me personally.
An online now a la myspace would be good,if a partic member is online then surely tis easier to send a p.m to that person if ya wann talk to em bout summat else nool related or not.
Get rid of the friends thing.
Finally,ban ALL Americans!
oldmonkey wrote:
* Massively trim the forums, completely re-engineer the forums so that all posts after a month or something are archived or removed.
I disagree!
[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: function, delete threads that are over two years old,
I disagree once again!
oldmonkey wrote: Totally disagree. What should happen instead, if Nic really has the two weeks to turn it round and make it something that retains the interest of the people, then some of the most commonly used topics should be distilled and turned into an embellished FAQ that is both accurate and reflects the populice. The wealth of photos could be added to an enhanced photo gallery that becomes a useful resource. Old posts need to be deleted. The post counts can stay for those that are obsessed by them, at least the option to display your credentials as a mega poster, if that is what floats your boat, they needn't go down when posts are removed - set the current count as being the base level, and all new posts go up from there.
In total agreement with Timbo here. I really do not like the wealth of personal history which is retained here. It's a bit unnerving. I cannot see why anyone would want to go back through posts from more than one month ago, let alone from years. I wouldn't want to.
Yes, there is the odd fact or interesting comment on New Order thrown up amongst the white noise but - let's face facts - considering the band are, basically, no more, the forums do illicit a lot more random chat these days, and I don't see why that needs retaining.
I post heavily on another forum, one which I've belonged to before this one was in existence and it has a lot heavier throughput. They retain maybe 100 threads at any one time there, and then they're lost to the ether. I'm far more comfortable with that.
For those who don't want old threads - simply don't open / read them. It is as simple as that.
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The Perfect Kisser*!* (Sub-Cultured*!*) wrote: For those who don't want old threads - simply don't open / read them. It is as simple as that.
Indeed*!*
But is it? You are rather missing the point. First of all, they take up masses of bandwidth, slowing the site down and costing those who contribute financially to the site more money (historically, before the site became infested with fookin' adverts).
Secondly, the info contained within is available to the whole world with a simple google search - I have no wish for anyone at all, be they fellow NO fans, internet stalkers or prospective employers to put my name into google and come up with a load of pissed shit I wrote 5 years ago, for example!
There is simply no need to keep all the forum threads that have been here for several years.
Can't agree that there's "simply no need" to keep the older threads, especially those in Digital Republic and Ceremony.
If they're significantly slowing down the site then that's one issue.
But some of us do find them useful from an archival perspective. Reflecting on how posters perceived new releases or reacted to news as it happened. Having the facility to review previous posts during a dispute. Or simply mulling over people's ruminations and experiences of New Order.
May not be something everyone does, but some will and do find it of use.
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The Perfect Kisser*!* (Sub-Cultured*!*) wrote: 3. For inactive members, I disagree with Edel to delete inactive members. What I can suggest is that you can greet them on their e-mail during their birthdays, just like one forum-site I've joined since 2001. As least, they will be reminded that they are a member/registered here.
excellent idea
I'd like to see the TV shows with the setlists included in the live section
Hélène's friend wrote:
oldmonkey wrote:
* Massively trim the forums, completely re-engineer the forums so that all posts after a month or something are archived or removed.
I disagree!
[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: function, delete threads that are over two years old,
I disagree once again!
I'm with you JC on this point.
In the Village, we like old theads.
depthcharge wrote: But some of us do find them useful from an archival perspective. Reflecting on how posters perceived new releases or reacted to news as it happened. Having the facility to review previous posts during a dispute. Or simply mulling over people's ruminations and experiences of New Order.
Again, I'm sorry, but as I've said earlier, I just find this rather creepy.
This week I've mainly commented on football, Spooks and admitted I knocked one out over BowWowWow single covers 25 years ago.
These are not really the sorta things I really want recording for posterity.
But then I shouldn't really have to temper my posting here as a result.
Perhaps those of us who've posted here for a long time, and posted a lot for a long time should be given the option of bulk-deleting their own posts from way back? There used to be a search option where you could at least find what people said.
Actually, that's a thought - get the 'search' facility working.
El Jarvo wrote:
I post heavily on another forum, one which I've belonged to before this one was in existence and it has a lot heavier throughput. They retain maybe 100 threads at any one time there, and then they're lost to the ether. I'm far more comfortable with that.
so, if you're not on line for some days, you can't browse the past threads? It's not democratic.
Hélène's friend wrote:
El Jarvo wrote:
I post heavily on another forum, one which I've belonged to before this one was in existence and it has a lot heavier throughput. They retain maybe 100 threads at any one time there, and then they're lost to the ether. I'm far more comfortable with that.
so, if you're not on line for some days, you can't browse the past threads? It's not democratic.
Fuck democracy. We're talking about getting rid of the huge pile of redundant threads from several years ago, not the ones from last week FFS!
Maybe we should just have all the BCD dross removed periodically?
Hélène's friend wrote:
El Jarvo wrote:
I post heavily on another forum, one which I've belonged to before this one was in existence and it has a lot heavier throughput. They retain maybe 100 threads at any one time there, and then they're lost to the ether. I'm far more comfortable with that.
so, if you're not on line for some days, you can't browse the past threads? It's not democratic.
We're not talking about being online for 'some days' though, are we - we're talking entire years!
oldmonkey wrote:
Hélène's friend wrote:
El Jarvo wrote:
I post heavily on another forum, one which I've belonged to before this one was in existence and it has a lot heavier throughput. They retain maybe 100 threads at any one time there, and then they're lost to the ether. I'm far more comfortable with that.
so, if you're not on line for some days, you can't browse the past threads? It's not democratic.
Fuck democracy. We're talking about getting rid of the huge pile of redundant threads from several years ago, not the ones from last week FFS!
Maybe we should just have all the BCD dross removed periodically?
good idea!! Old BCD threads should be removed!! No sense to archive the nonsense. I mean i know i posted shite i wish i hadn't there.
oldmonkey wrote:
Maybe we should just have all the BCD dross removed periodically?
Does that mean I'll no longer be welcome???
Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:
oldmonkey wrote:
Maybe we should just have all the BCD dross removed periodically?
Does that mean I'll no longer be welcome???
What d'ye mean "no longer"..
El Jarvo wrote: Again, I'm sorry, but as I've said earlier, I just find this rather creepy.
Fail to see it, really. It's just reviewing history for me. Relecting on how people perceived albums, experienced concerts, and so on.
However I can recall you had some problems with private issues being dredged up through older threads re-surfacing, so perhaps your perspective is different.
El Jarvo wrote:
These are not really the sorta things I really want recording for posterity.
But then I shouldn't really have to temper my posting here as a result.
This is probably the key difference. Some do temper their posting with the understanding that it's a public forum. I generally keep personal stuff out of here, especially the NO-related forums. This isn't to say that I haven't looked back and wished some comments away, but perhaps not to the extent of others.
I can understand some motives to cull the non-related, and often more candid BCD gunk, but not the NO-related forums. It's what this website's all about. Older perspectives on NO aren't any less valid and there's a wealth of historical data there.
El Jarvo wrote:
Actually, that's a thought - get the 'search' facility working.
Have to agree here. It's a dog's brekkie of a thing.
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And I've just been reminded of the most annoying aspect of NOOL posting: the accursed time out.
Perhaps this can be fixed too?
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depthcharge wrote: However I can recall you had some problems with private issues being dredged up through older threads re-surfacing, so perhaps your perspective is different.
That's not really the issue but, yes, I suppose some of us do socialise away from these forums and a lot of personal stuff / photos / etc do then get posted up here.
Frankly, I'd rather it was all removed. I don't tape people's conversations when I'm out on the sauce, then replay them a couple of years later, so inane stuff posted on here has no need to be brought up again, or retained.
If people want to submit 'official' reviews of albums or gigs or whatever, or if people want to submit blogs then there's no reason why these cannot be retained, but general chit-chat, or indeed just general comments about the band or a live performance don't really hold any sway.
Get rid of the releases/live images that load randomly at the top of each page, or have them properly rescanned and sized so the image quality isn't so poorly degraded. They look terrible 90% of the time.
ALSO, can you reformat the forums to allow replying to individual comments? It's really a pain to be reading through a post and have huge chunks of previous comments quoted just so two or three people can follow a conversation. LiveJournal and forums like The Huffington Post do it:
-Original comment -----sub-comment -----sub-comment ----------sub-comment-comment ----------sub-comment-comment -----sub-comment
...and so on.
