WFTSC - YES or NO???

At least it's far better than the overrated Low Life.

Not the weakest. Movement and Get Ready are weaker.

Not weak at all!

WFTSC is probably my least favorite New Order album, but it's just because of the lyrics. it has some great beats, great music--but it seems like there is a lot of filler in the lyrics for most of the songs.

Jeez, I don't remember making this thread... although obviously I did. I don't agree with myself now!

Love this album. Get Ready is their weakest.

Not the greatest, but not the worst either.

I think WFTSC is a fantastic album and time will be much kinder to it than it has been to Republic, which in addition to sounding weak also sounds dated.

It's probably their best, actually. Get Ready is ace too.

WFTSC is so retrospective. What do you mean weakest album? Republic deserves that title.

WFTSC is an excellent album

Low Life has the best collection of songs, but were far better live than they sound on the album.

movement's piss poor

republic is piss weak

WFTSC is pretty ok.

Another definite NO vote from me.

Someone mentioned something about the lyrics. I'd have to agree with that on some songs (GIAUE, J-E-T), but on others (WFTSC, Turn) the lyrics are some of the best they've ever done.

Also the songs went perfectly with what was going on in my life at the time, so it's their first record since Technique to strike a chord for me personally. Perhaps that skews my view on it somewhat. :)

Weakest link goes to Republic. I haven't listened to that one in years. Shame really, because I love Regret and Special, but the rest of it just never did anything for me.

Some of their most moving songs (Who's Joe, WFTSC, Krafty, Turn etc), but is let down by Working Overtime and I Told You So.

No. They should just go back to 8/9 tracks per album. In other words have fucking dropped Draculas Castle (shit title,even shitter song!)

WFSC is better than Regret and definitely better than Get Ready.

had it on the car c.d . non stop following the "turn" thread i can play it and play it ,,waiting for the sirens call is a top 10 order song for me, and krafty!!! its a realy good play,,dont realy believe you can say there is a worst ,weakest album only your fave,

show me.

its sound.

but just gathering some dust at the moment.

Dare I be honest, the Resident RoS's vote is NO. And I'll tell you why.

For one, this is probably the only album I can actually listen to from beginning to end and actually love. My coworkers love listening to bits and snippets of it when they pass through my work station, and even my Manager's wondered who New Order is thanks to this album.

There isn't a single thing on the album I don't enjoy.

WFTSC Rules! I still think that their first one was the weakest and darkest.

Indeed!

Sub-Cultured wrote: WFTSC Rules! I still think that their first one was the weakest and darkest.

Indeed!

Please go back and listen to Movement again!! You can't say that it's weaker than Republic or that absolute steamy-heapy Get Ready

I don't know whether it's the weakest as I have never heard Movement.

It feels a bit lightweight. Some great songs, but too many producers I think. It's the Raise the Pressure of New Order albums. Whereas Get Ready is the Twisted Tenderness.

Best: title track, I Told You So, Krafty, Turn

Worst: Guilt is a Useless Emotion. Nothing special about that track at all. Sounds like an outtake from Raise the Pressure. (an album I like)

RichShan wrote:

Sub-Cultured wrote: WFTSC Rules! I still think that their first one was the weakest and darkest.

Indeed!

Please go back and listen to Movement again!! You can't say that it's weaker than Republic or that absolute steamy-heapy Get Ready

Hey Rich dude!!!

I do have their first album since the late 80s and I do play it from time to time. Its also my music folder, so it plays at random at my PC cause my winamp is on random mode (and I don't skip it!). It's my opinion, and yes, definitely I can say that. I don't have to listen to Movement again to change my mind or opinion to satisfy you, because I know the album by heart, and it has been my opinion since New Order became my favorite artist back in the late 80s.

Also, I love Republic, Get Ready, and WFTSC more than Movement! And that is my opinion

Peace dude!

better than get ready fo sho

Definetely yes - its a lot better than Respublic for example

I was about to start a new topic on this until I saw this thread.

I bought a copy of WFTSC just last week as it was the only NO album I didn't have and as I have heard so many people talking about it on here I thought I should investigate it.

I have to say it is much better than Get Ready which I think is the weekest album. I haven't listened to that for ages but at the time of buying it and then having a listen none of the songs made much impact. WFTSC on the other hand is brilliant. My 3 fave songs are

1 Guilt is a useless emotion - very sexy song/lyrics 2 Draculas Castle 3 WFTSC

I don't think its as good as Technique but I still really liked it. I also bought two Revenge albums and liked those as well.

Jesu wrote: At least it's far better than the overrated Low Life.

Still true nearly five years on.

Republic just shades it by a bigger ratio: 4 good songs to 7 'meh' ones.

WFTSC is 5 good songs and 6 not so great.

I'm glad people voted "No" to the "No" covered album, though it has by far the laziest cover art of any New Order release [sorry Mr. Saville but anyone can do it...] but it's a strong album, the reason I think it gets such a bashing on here by certain people is because by New Order standards it is weak, but as a whole its a good album.

Round And Round - for heavy rotation:

Hey Now What You Doing Krafty Waiting For The Sirens Call Guilt Is A Useless Emotion Morning Night and Day

Middle Of The Republic:

Who's Joe? Jetstream I Told You So Turn

Low-lifes:

Draculas Castle Working Overtime