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Best track Bernard Sumner's ever done outside JD/NO

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Best track Bernard Sumner's ever done outside JD/NO

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  • Getting Away With It (with Electronic) 33 (29%)
  • Get The Message (with Electronic) 16 (14%)
  • Feel Every Beat (with Electronic) 6 (5%)
  • Disappointed (with Electronic) 8 (7%)
  • Forbidden City (with Electronic) 15 (13%)
  • Spanish Heart (with 808 State) 5 (4%)
  • Out Of Control (with The Chemical Brothers) 30 (26%)
  • Shoot Speed Kill Light (with Primal Scream) 2 (2%)

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Damn, I knew there was something I'd forgotten!

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Mr Cassidy, where's the Sundance kid?

There's loads of magic tracks missing from yer list! Prodigal Son is one of the best Barney tracks outwith NO / JD, obviously there are loads more:nod:

from your list it simply has to be Forbidden City.

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Nah, I'm going for the hitch-up with the two nerds from Manchester Uni, the Chemicals :)

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I'd have put a lot more Electronic tracks on the list as I agree Marr and Sumner did some fantastic stuff, but I didn't want to list 15 or so Electronic songs massively outnumbering the handful of other Sumner sideline tracks I could think of.

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Originally posted by Butch Higgins I'd have put a lot more Electronic tracks on the list as I agree Marr and Sumner did some fantastic stuff, but I didn't want to list 15 or so Electronic songs massively outnumbering the handful of other Sumner sideline tracks I could think of.

Understandable compadre:beer:

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"I didn't want to list 15 or so Electronic songs massively outnumbering the handful of other Sumner sideline tracks I could think of."

Hmmm.... Having said that, I've just looked back and realized that 5 out of the 8 tracks I listed WERE Electronic songs. DOH!

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What a choice!

Getting Away With It. Love that tune.

Can remember seeing the video for Get The Message on MTV in '90 and thinking (before I saw Barney in it) "What a tune. Sounds like Barney Sumner." Then bought the album. As good today as it was then. One of very few albums I listened to all the way through 1st time & loved it.

Also one of very few albums I actually bought on tape AND CD. Bring on the DVD version!!!

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Great video for "Get The Message", shot I think in the Philippines (!). The "Getting Away With It" promo with Sumner, Marr and Neil Tennant just getting down in a recording studio is also really cool, in a "Perfect Kiss" kind of way.

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out of control chemical brothers have always wanted to be new order and for about 5 mins they were best song new order nver released

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the forbidden city. i've always liked this bittersweet song.:)

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If you widen this question to include Bernard Sumner production jobs, I would have to include the following:-

"Inspiration" from the brilliant Section 25 album "From the Hip" (possibly the best New Order track not by New Order?)

"Won't stop loving you" by A Certain Ratio from the equally brilliant album "ACR : MCR"

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Personally I would say Vivid or Like No Other from Electronic's Twisted Tenderness. Otherwise, Getting Away

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I WOULD HAVE TO SAY OUT OF CONTROL BUT ONLY JUST ABOVE GET THE MESSAGE

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Going with "Forbidden City" here. That is just an amazing track. "Vivid" was quite good, too, as was "Some Distant Memory". ;) Still don't quite understand the fuss over GAWI...always felt that it was overrated.

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'disappointed' by a nose over 'out of control'.

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Forbidden City. Such a great opening song ("There's not a hope..."). Top class lyrics, top class music.

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I've gone for Out Of Control on this one, because that was what got me into NO in the first place.

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Not many tracks to choose from, is there? I don`t know why you bothered.

Still, I`d go for 'Dark Angel', if I could actually vote for it, that is!

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Getting Away With It for sure, I still remember hearing back in '91 in a friends' car and thinking what a lovely, beautiful and sad song it was.

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Getting Away With It for sure, I still remember hearing it back in '91 in a friends' car and thinking what a lovely, beautiful and sad song it was.

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Originally posted by Adam Tate "Won't stop loving you" by A Certain Ratio from the equally brilliant album "ACR : MCR"

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The original, Barney-less, "The Big E", from 1989's "Good together" A&M album is great too!

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Originally posted by almanso you forgot the best one in my opinion: this time i´m not wrong (with sub sub).

I agree. "This Time I'm Not Wrong" kicks ass.

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This time im not wrong rocks

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forbidden city

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This Time Im Not Wrong,Spanish Heart both classic Barnster.

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Gangster

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It certainly isn`t Out Of Control.:nonono:

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it seems im getting away with it:p

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Not sure this is right, as it is at home, but I think its called.

Responsiblity

with the Beat Club

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wasn't is Secur-or-ity????

and that one is a great one!!!

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That's the one.:thumb: My humble apologies. It is late Friday afternoon here.

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Acoustic set at the Gretton gig = best live outside NO :nod:

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Forbidden city

and it's too late to wash my hands

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I voted for ' Feel Every Beat' but my favourite has to be Some Distant Memory

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Feel every beat for me - just ahead of Get The Mess.

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Bernard's certainly done his fair share of quality New Orderless material. I voted for the superb "Get the message" and would have voted for sublime "Disappointed" alternatively. I agree with other replies that Sub Sub's "This Time I'm Not Wrong" is an incredible tune and well worth inclusion. However Bernard did not actually write the song, or did he? I can't quite remember, I have the CD single and the actual Delta Tapes CD but aren't the credits for that song simply Williams/Goodwin/Williams? I'm not sure and I don't have the CDs in my flat, but if a Sumner was tacked on the end and anyone has the CD to hand don't be shy. Spanish Heart?! Nice novelty track, but pretty forgettable and very simple, anyone could have written it. Bernard's "solo" high points for me include Tighten Up, Make It Happen (Perhaps his most exciting, experimental one), and Some Distant Memory. Basically the first Electronic LP is his finest, most consistent hour. I like Out of control but it was trying too hard to be a New Order song, and didn't really cut it. The whooshy effects got on my nerves after a while, and the ridiculous line about his 'tache :laugh: but it's a good song to get in the mood for clubbing to, it's got decent energy.

His worst track? A New Religion is pretty directionless missing a melody, decent lyrics and even a decent guitar line (where was Marr?) The bass intro's good though. Aside from that I've never really enjoyed Getting Away With It. It's too soppy for me, the lyrics make me cringe. It's like a purile playground rhyme (I love youuuu more than you love meeee) I can see why it did well in the charts but there's so much more stronger Sumner/Marr material. Decent starter single to get the band noticed though.

Ally.

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No question it is "Getting away from it". (A lot of people I know, always thought that was a PSB song). For mentioning some not on the list: I like "Dark Angel" and "Try all you want" a lot.

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I went with Getting Away with it, though Forbidden City is close. I agree that Dark Angel could easily be on this list.

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Hello All,It has to be 'get the message' for me no contest!Although if that wasn't an option I would have struggled a bit.(good choices on and off the list)Often songs are the best because of when you heard them,or what they say to you, or the vocals, or the tune Etc. Get the message gets ten out of ten from me on ALL counts.(even the video!)

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I have to say I can't get Out Of Control outta my head.

"Your nakked body, lying on the floor"

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Out Of Control. Get the Message is a close second, though. I love that mustache-line actually, cracks me up! :D

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It's a toss up between Getting Away With It and Out of Control. Getting Away With It is an all time classic. For Out Of Control, the first time I heard it, I said this is the most New Order-like song I've heard, and because of that, I love it. It took me a while to learn that Barney did the vocals. And because of that, I love it more!

Indeed!

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Not on your list but "Vivid" off TT album?

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RichShan wrote: Not on your list but "Vivid" off TT album?

My thoughts exactly - in fact was only saying so yesterday. For me, the best thing Electronic EVER did. None of the crappy fake rapping, weedy synths. Vivid is a proper song that actually has some b**locks. Shows Barney can do it if he's bothered. Oh, and with some help from a few friends... :beer:

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It was hard for me to decide. I voted for 'Getting Away with It', but there were too many good songs.

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Chris Nash wrote:

RichShan wrote: Not on your list but "Vivid" off TT album?

My thoughts exactly - in fact was only saying so yesterday. For me, the best thing Electronic EVER did. None of the crappy fake rapping, weedy synths. Vivid is a proper song that actually has some b**locks. Shows Barney can do it if he's bothered. Oh, and with some help from a few friends... :beer:

Chris, been listening to this album a lot recently. Definitely the best of the three. First Electronic album is way over-rated IMHO. Get the Message excepted, I think a lot of the songs are over long and some are plain weak. TT has a very polished coherent sound to it and some great songs- breakdown is a cracker and the title track just soars (for me)... :thumb:

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My name is not important, it's a signal a sign.

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Obviously Out Of Control with The Chemical Brothers. Even after almost 10 years, this song is still so amazing to listen and to dance to.:bow:

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My vote has to go to "Getting Away With It", as far as the poll choices go. But that's a tough one. Everything he's done has been total quality. There are way too many to include with his Electronic work that tie with it. Vivid, Haze, Dark Angel, etc.. all up there, too.

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out of control. tho the sub sub one is very good too

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The jam with Echo and the Bunneymen at 12 AUG 84 Inside Festival - Halles des Forge, Liege Belgium where he sings about a big big willy.

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getting away with it,, still sounds timeless

get the message.

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get the message

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My favorite is "Out of control," by the Chemical Brothers. It still sounds great this many years later which is amazing for a dance track. Most dance music gets old fast...not this one.:thumb:

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'When Shes Gone' for me (offa that Twisted Tenderness).

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Its one of the songs off the Ease the pressure album. I can't remember the title for the life of me so here are the lyrics to the first verse - Please remind me the name of the track!

'close your lips, we shouldn't speak of this Im not the first person to know its only me out in the cold let me feel joy I really need it rushing my blood, I want to feel it and I'm sure when its begun 1 into 2 always makes 1'

Yes THAT track - its great!!

Having a blonde moment when I'm not a blonde!! Doh!!!!

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Joanne Bailey wrote: Its one of the songs off the Ease the pressure album. I can't remember the title for the life of me so here are the lyrics to the first verse - Please remind me the name of the track!

'close your lips, we shouldn't speak of this Im not the first person to know its only me out in the cold let me feel joy I really need it rushing my blood, I want to feel it and I'm sure when its begun 1 into 2 always makes 1'

Yes THAT track - its great!!

Having a blonde moment when I'm not a blonde!! Doh!!!!

Freefall

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That's it! Thanx so much. That will teach me 2b so damn 4 getful

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That's it! Thanx so much. That will teach me 2b so damn 4 getful

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