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1. best bit, 2. worst bit, 3. why you love/hate it, 4. percentage rating

1. After two minutes, the song becomes a great mix of Hooky's bass and Steve's drums.
2. The first two minutes are too bare and boring, and Barney's voice sounds a little whiny for most of the track.
3. Other than the slow start and Barney, the track is rather enjoyable, especially when the song begins to really pick up after 5 minutes.
4. 80%

1. best bit: The easy-to-dance-to beat of the bass.. synth?
2. worst bit: The intro is a little long, but it's good, so...
3. why you love/hate it: I think it's just full of energy. I love it because it's a good car song.
4. percentage rating: 70%

2. Worst Bit: The 2 minute intro is SO FUCKING AWFUL it ALMOST ruins the song. Would anybody really listen to 586 if it consisted solely of the intro?

3. Best Bit: From the fade in of the rest of 586 it is an awseome, awesome dance track. Has anybody ever figured out how musicians who clearly can't dance have made such awesome dance music? Only criticism: perhaps the slowdown at the end was a mistake...

Or, in the words of countless reviewers on American Bandstand, it has a beat and you can dance to it....

3. Why you love/hate it: In this case, it's love, with a bit of hate thrown in. See above.

4. Percentage Rating: 85%...Could've been higher, if not for that awful, awful intro.

I don't rate it.

definetely an all time classic this one. Love the intro of it, fils u with andicipation of what it might comes next, and when it does, i just cant help lettin myself get lost in it :D . If anybody asked me to describe what NO are about with one song, this would be probablymy choice, all their main elements in this. Also kickin in all its versions . Rating? close to 100 %

1. when the intro is over
2. the FUCKING INTRO
3. sounds a bit too close to Blue Monday (as does ultraviolence), and the 2-min. intro is unexcusable. but it's a dancy little number once it get going.
4. 75%

Am i alone to love the intro ? it's like a sweet pleasure anticipation....i love it !

Originally posted by 1. best bit, 2. worst bit, 3. why you love/hate it, 4. percentage rating

1. everything - but Hooky and Stephen are particularly wonderful. the song's overall attitude and tone are just so amazing - the balance in the LP mix between detachment and excitement is amazing.

2. nothing. the song is phenomenal.

3. it has a lot of sentimental value for me, and i think it's just an amazing song (see my answer to number one).

4. 100% - absolutely brilliant. it's probably my favorite New Order song.

Originally posted by Liolia Am i alone to love the intro ?it's like a sweet pleasure anticipation....i love it !

i love the intro, as well! since i know the song well, it just builds the anticipation so wonderfully.

good ! thanks ! happy to know i'm not alone.... this song is just amazing ! from the beginning to the end ! and the one from the peel sessions very good too....

1. Best bit: Great lyrics, good ending synth and effects, the Peel Sessions version as well
2. Worst bit: The PCL intro is far too long, put me off the track for a long time
3. Why love/hate? My first non-Blue Monday PCL track I've heard it, still listen to it every once in awhile
4. Rating: 80%

1. Best bit. The ahead of its time sheen and the "it's great because it's not quite Blue Monday" slant to it.
2. Worst bit. Nothing really. The intro doesn't upset me as much as it obviously does some people.
3. Why you love it. It's not a favourite, but it's a great track. I like the Peel version best because in my mind it's always coupled with "Too Late" - that 2nd Peel Session is the real missing link between "Movement" and the future and a truly essential NO moment. The full Video 586 version doesn't get many plays in our house though!
4. Percentage: 88%

dont like it now, did the , might again

1. best bit, 2. worst bit, 3. why you love/hate it, 4. percentage rating

Best Bit: The version on the Peel Sessions

Worst Bit: The horrid intro. Am I the only one that lopped it off of my dubbed versions over the years? Also loathe the bass playing in the PCL version.

Love it/Hate it: Has a really nasty, grinding, snarling feel on the Peel Sessions version, I like the vocals on it. Other than the intro and the bass, I like the PCL version too. Really aggressive.

Percentage: Peel Sessions: 90%, PCL: 75%

I love the live version at the Kilburn National Ballroom, Hooky's bass is fantastic on that version.

I love it,even the 22min version on Touch Tone.

I honestly thought my tape was bust when I first heard the intro. I think the 22 minute intro is best described as "interesting".

Originally posted by marcus mee I honestly thought my tape was bust when I first heard the intro. I think the 22 minute intro is best described as "interesting".

I think your tape is bust if you have a 22 minute intro!

I'm sure SPtwo does not mean that, whoever heard of a 22 minute intro? (Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd (with Syd Barrett), Fairport Convention, Crosby, Stills & Nash (no Young) etc).

I just voted for this one on the current DR thread , for the encore I'd most like to see at the next gig. I think it's got great potential to be turned (or modernised?) into an epic encore.

best bit: a fitting end to PCL when listening to the whole thing Rating: 90% for PCL version and 92%Peel Session

obviously I meant the end of one side of the vinyl.

1. best bit: everything but intro
2. worst bit: intro
3. why you love/hate it: because my former phone No. was 586xxx :D
4. percentage rating: 87%

Best: "I see danger!" Worst: That it ends. Why?: I love it for the intro!! %: Hmmmm , 101!!!!

1. When the vocals and bass start their interplay. And the keyboard solo at the end.

2. The intro (surprise, surprise) works only as an interlude between "The Village" to "586" proper, otherwise, mweh.

3. Love it if only for the fact that the 1982 live versions and the versions after those have their own distinct appeal to me.

4. 90% on the album, 95% live.

Best bit: "I SEE DANGER, DANGER, DANGER.." those awesome lyrics. "I HEAR SILENCE IN MY HEART!!" Me too, Barney. Damn right!

Worst bit: I listen to this one quite often and almost always skip the shit at the start, I don't really see it as being part of the actual song. But from the hum and the 'Aah' onwards... I'm loving it (as they say at McDonald's).

Why I love it: It's the best version of the whole 'Blue Monday thing' by far so stick that in yer pipe and take a good ole smoke! Better lyrics and much more 'up.' That keyboard solo too!!! The only song that I've ever caught myself playing air keyboard along too. Peel Session one not quite so good but does start much better with a cool bass riff rather than that bloody intro.

Percentage rating: 82%

Why I love it :

because of the remix Peter Black did with it, a musical diamond, such an hypnotic mantra it could last 30 minutes. It really carries you away. Pure jewel, for sure (100% IMHO)

1. The apocalyptic bass on the live versions, oh and the Peel rendition.

2. The PCL version: horrendous videogame intro and neutered bass.

3. It sounds like a more Movement-esque prototype Blue Monday, like most of PCL. The quintissential track to showcase the hypnotic quality of their PCL-era material(We All Stand, Too Late, Ultraviolence).

4. 70% Album version, 80% Live/Peel

1. Sounds like Blue Monday
2. The first couple of minutes
3. The lyrics are catchy
4. 82%

1] All of it. Even the fuckin' intro, 'cause it's ace. [Like, everytime I hear it, I just KNOW what's playing next. ]

2] None of it.

3] It just... damn. It's just good. But 'Video 586' is even better--20+ straight minutes of pure dancing enjoyment! Love it! [Good job remixin' that, !!]

4] 99.9%. 'Cause it ain't TPK, which deserves my full 100%.

['Sunshine' Valley Music Junkie] wrote:

3] It just... damn. It's just good. But 'Video 586' is even better--20+ straight minutes of pure dancing enjoyment! Love it! [Good job remixin' that, !!]

err, not a remix - given that it was written nearly a year before PC&L version was released...

love the song..

I prefer the version on the Peel session. Really dark and brooding. That session has a really unusual feel to it, really oppressive. Unlike most people on here I think that the best part of the album version is the odd moog synth intro. Could listen to that over and over :\ohwell:

Liolia wrote: Am i alone to love the intro ? it's like a sweet pleasure anticipation....i love it !

you're not alone . It was an interesting song and it's still one of my PCL 'favourites. I liked the bass line and the robotic beat. The little tune brought some fresh air in the middle of the song .

RichShan wrote: I prefer the version on the Peel session. Really dark and brooding. That session has a really unusual feel to it, really oppressive. Unlike most people on here I think that the best part of the album version is the odd moog synth intro. Could listen to that over and over :\ohwell:

With you there Rich. Said it before (in this forum I think) and I'll say it again - Peel Session version is miles better than the PCL version. Different vibe, different style, computers, blah, blah I know but this version has depth, delicacy and drips feeling. Great, great sound.

Love this track

1. Best Bit - I see Danger when the vocal kicks in. What a rhythm, still sounds fresh today 2)Worse bit - none
2. You;ve got to dance and sing along to this at the top of your voice and you feel g8 when the track is finished
3. 98%

1. How it ends, I see danger!, I hear silence!, Can you hear me...
2. Video 586 - I don't like it that much (I did not say I hated it)
3. Same as # 1
4. B+

Indeed*!*

Can you hear me, Colin?

load and clear Nick

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