Baseball playoffs thread

It seems the Cubbies aren't Completely Useless By September, they beat the shi-z-nit out of my once-beloved Atlanta Braves (they should drop the "Tomahawk Chop" in favor of the "Tomahawk Choke") and have advanced one step closer to the Series, having to get past the Marlins. The Yanks crushed the Twins, and Boston apparently still has some life, drawing out the series with the A's to a game 5. This is why I love post-season baseball!

How 'bout next year? Maybe the Tigers pull off a "worst to first"? A Devil Rays/Mets Series? Nobody responding to this thread? :D

I am just happy the Giants lost, and i am hoping for a Bosox marlins final, with the bosox winning in game 7 with manny ramirez finally waking up and hitting a gw homer, and I hope the cubs get crushed; I hate the damn Trojan, Mark Prior

i am a die-hard cubs fan, hope we go all the way, but i learned my lesson in 1989 (when i was 10),and in 98 and will take it as it comes. i just get sick of cub fans who celebrate winning the series to advance like they have won the world series.

Originally posted by kamar khan i am a die-hard cubs fan, hope we go all the way, but i learned my lesson in 1989 (when i was 10),and in 98 and will take it as it comes. i just get sick of cub fans who celebrate winning the series to advance like they have won the world series.

Well this cubs team is better than the one in 98, so they fo have a damn good chance, but their bullpen is too unreliable, so I think the marlins will beat the cubbies in five, and hopefully prior doesn't get a win

I have to say I was impressed with this Cubs team when I saw them during the regular season, old Dusty Baker lit a fire under their collective asses. Mark Prior may easily be the best young pitcher in the game (who might likely flame out and disintergrate after this year, as often happens with rookie or first-trip-to-the-bigs pitchers), and Kerry Wood dominated the Braves much like Rog Clemens. I'm just a little unsure as to whether the city of Chicago can comprehend a team that would actually stand a fair to good chance of winning it all.

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 I have to say I was impressed with this Cubs team when I saw them during the regular season, old Dusty Baker lit a fire under their collective asses. Mark Prior may easily be the best young pitcher in the game (who might likely flame out and disintergrate after this year, as often happens with rookie or first-trip-to-the-bigs pitchers), and Kerry Wood dominated the Braves much like Rog Clemens. I'm just a little unsure as to whether the city of Chicago can comprehend a team that would actually stand a fair to good chance of winning it all.

Dontrelle and Brandon Webb will last longer than Prior and have more bountiful careers since they don't have to throw 130 pitches every start, and no Chicago cannot fathom a winning psorts team at the moment

I was at a Bicyclists for Dean party last night. They tapped the keg at 7 pm (no one had a job). Anywho, rather than spouse Deanisms we watched the Cubs. Great Game!!!!!!!!!!

BTW, I smelled more cannibis while watching Duran Duran play live than at the Liberals for Dean party. WTF is up with that??

Originally posted by twist I was at a Bicyclists for Dean party last night. They tapped the keg at 7 pm (no one had a job). Anywho, rather than spouse Deanisms we watched the Cubs. Great Game!!!!!!!!!!BTW, I smelled more cannibis while watching Duran Duran play live than at the Liberals for Dean party. WTF is up with that??

maybe Duran Duran is more liberal than Dean can ever hope to be, the damn hypocrite, but at least he's m ore liberal than the other hypocrite, Wesley Clark

Originally posted by The Man Up North fook off!From now on, it's GO CUBBIES!P.S. What a game ending tonight for the A's/Sox game!!!!!!

Derek Lowe struck out two men in the bottom of the ninth in Network Associates. Bay Area ppl must be crying now, first the Giants, now the A's, plus the niners and raiders are losing

Originally posted by Tristan Jayol > Originally posted by The Man Up North> fook off!> > From now on, it's GO CUBBIES!> > > > P.S. What a game ending tonight for the A's/Sox game!!!!!!

Derek Lowe struck out two men in the bottom of the ninth in Network Associates. Bay Area ppl must be crying now, first the Giants, now the A's, plus the niners and raiders are losing

That was quite possibly one of the best division series games I've ever personnally witnessed. The homers by Varitek(sic) and Manny Rameriez were stunning, the mid-field collision between Johnny Damon and Damien Walker was worse than a Nascar wreck, and the ninth inning was a pure nail-biter no matter who you were rooting for. All in all, a great game.

Now as for the BoSox's chances against the Yankees....well, I wouldn't hold my breath. I will predict that a Yankees-Marlins World Series would probably be the least-watched in the history of baseball, though

The Sox aren't going anywhere. As far as I care, I hope they lose so that everyone at my school - since I'm in Boston - gets majorly disappointed. And, considering how badly the sox are doing, the Phillies have a better chance of going to the world series.

Originally posted by Androgynous kid with a camera that follows you The Sox aren't going anywhere. As far as I care, I hope they lose so that everyone at my school - since I'm in Boston - gets majorly disappointed. And, considering how badly the sox are doing, the Phillies have a better chance of going to the world series.

the phillies are not in the postseason, and the bosox just courageously beat the A's to advance to the ALCS to face the Yankees

The Cubs are up 4-0 against the Marlins right now, this may very well be their year....or not, I might've just jinxed them

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 The Cubs are up 4-0 against the Marlins right now, this may very well be their year....or not, I might've just jinxed them

Yes you have 4-5 in the fourth, go marlins baby

Yep, helluva game last night indeed, exciting stuff to be remembered for a long while. Just thank Choakland for their base running errors in the previous game was Tejada thinking, as well as the other runner being totally faked out by thinking that Varitek had the ball. My Bosox buddy was beside himself today, but I glady let him have his day, he's suffered enough over the years.

It'll be interesting to see how Boston recovers from that series, we agreed that their attitude was "we'll worry about tomorrow when that comes". Yanks pitching is set up nicely, but doubtless Boston will win a game by something like 13 to 2, but overall, I still like the Yanks to advance again.

Hopefully against the Cubs.

Oh, I just have to resurrect the spirit of Bucky Dent for this series.......

Originally posted by Tristan Jayol > Originally posted by Androgynous kid with a camera that follows you> The Sox aren't going anywhere. As far as I care, I hope they lose so that everyone at my school - since I'm in Boston - gets majorly disappointed. And, considering how badly the sox are doing, the Phillies have a better chance of going to the world series.

the phillies are not in the postseason, and the bosox just courageously beat the A's to advance to the ALCS to face the Yankees They did??? I thought they lost last night.

Glad to see nobody got seriously hurt after the silly extra curricular activities between the Chowderheads and the Yankees yesterday. What is going on in Pedro's mind these days, must be the pressure from being there. I mean, didn't the pitcher Kim, the one acquired from AZ but didn't make this series roster because he can't pitch well against the Yanks, flip off the hometown crowd cause they had the temerity to boo him when he was being introduced.

I'm not a big Yankee fan by any means, it's just that having to deal with their fans is enough for me to say Go Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(thank God I don't live in the Northeast!).

Originally posted by Green Glad to see nobody got seriously hurt after the silly extra curricular activities between the Chowderheads and the Yankees yesterday. What is going on in Pedro's mind these days, must be the pressure from being there. I mean, didn't the pitcher Kim, the one acquired from AZ but didn't make this series roster because he can't pitch well against the Yanks, flip off the hometown crowd cause they had the temerity to boo him when he was being introduced. I'm not a big Yankee fan by any means, it's just that having to deal with their fans is enough for me to say Go Yankees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(thank God I don't live in the Northeast!).

I didn't go to the game yesterday, but I was by the post office near Fenway park (mailing out a story for a competition, anyway) and I almost got pushed over a railing by Sox fans in the subway station. Unfortunately, I have no idea how the game turned out.

Man, the Cubs had the chance to pound the Marlins into non-existence and choked (I think the final was Marlins 4, Cubs 0). There was almost a brawl between Sosa and the Marlins pitcher (Beckett?), who threw incredibly close to Sammy's head (must've thought his head was made of cork, huh? :D ), and the Cubbies just couldn't get it done tonight.

I don't think I'm even gonna watch the Sox-Yankees tonight, I'm so disgusted with the fact that the Sox have basically let the Yankees bitch-slap them around. From this point on, I don't think I can say "Go Yankees!" as long as that asshole Steinbrenner has anything to do with them, but I can say the Red Sox are letting the "Curse of the Bambino" take effect and ream them up the ass. Zimmer charging Pedro and getting knocked down for it doesn't reflect well on either team, but I'll be damned if that doesn't light a fire under the Yanks' asses and lead them to annilhate the Sox.

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 asshole ass asses:

So much derriere in ur account of anger

Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> asshole ass asses:

So much derriere in ur account of anger

Must be verbal diarrhea :barf:

:D

Originally posted by Spotnick Perfect World Series would be Red Soxs vs Cubs.. time to end a slump isn't it? :DAltough I'm sad when I see all those ex-Expos players in the world series... Moises Alou and Pedro Martinez for instance.. if you had Felipe Alou's Giants.. it's too many memories to handle...Gosh, did that 1994 strike killed baseball in Montreal or not.. we had the team to build a serious dynasty! and young in the minors such as Rondell White, Cliff Floyd, Vladimir Guerrero, etc..And to think a stupid GM traded Randy Johnson out of here :DGosh, go back 20 years back, get us a owner with big pockets.. the Braves & Yankees would have hated us ;)

how bout all the former Dodgers, Pedro Martinez, Karros, Grudzilanek, Hollandsworth

I just want to say the Fox broadcast team put a terrible spin on all of Saturday's incidents. In fact Jeff Nelson sucker punched the Red Sox employee who was in the visitor's bullpen for extra security purposes. Jeff Nelson and Karim Garcia were escorted from Fenway in handcuffs, but the Fox announcers missed that.

Originally posted by Joshua B I just want to say the Fox broadcast team put a terrible spin on all of Saturday's incidents. In fact Jeff Nelson sucker punched the Red Sox employee who was in the visitor's bullpen for extra security purposes. Jeff Nelson and Karim Garcia were escorted from Fenway in handcuffs, but the Fox announcers missed that.

Good thing Fox does not own the Dodgers anymore , but there are rumors that the owner will trade Gagne

Boston needs to whip the Yanks just for the comments that the Yankees prez made about Fenway (and by extentsion Boston) being a culture of disorder or something like that. Zimmer's apology was heartfelt, but I doubt it'll do anything to soothe tensions between these two. And damn it all if I have to work tonight, so I miss it again (I missed the first 6 or so innings Saturday).

The Cubs might actually benefit from a return to Wrigley, maybe the home crowd can pump them up enough to put on another hitting display against the Marlins. I don't HATE the Marlins like I'm starting to hate the Yankees, but I would rather see the Cubs make it to the October classic (though, with the way scheduling has been the past few years, it's more likely to end up in early November).

I doubt the Fox sports analysts are as talented or inclined to spin stuff as the FNC bunch :D but they have to report what they get, and often during a game, in the heat of battle as it were, it's hard to fact-check and make sure you've got the facts straight. I cut them some slack over that.

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 Boston needs to whip the Yanks just for the comments that the Yankees prez made about Fenway (and by extentsion Boston) being a culture of disorder or something like that.

If the Yanks want to see a culture of disorder, they should just go south to Philly after a Sixers, Eagles, or Flyers game in which the home team actually wins. Boston, in comparison, is quite tame.

Originally posted by Androgynous kid with a camera that follows you > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> Boston needs to whip the Yanks just for the comments that the Yankees prez made about Fenway (and by extentsion Boston) being a culture of disorder or something like that.

If the Yanks want to see a culture of disorder, they should just go south to Philly after a Sixers, Eagles, or Flyers game in which the home team actually wins. Boston, in comparison, is quite tame. Look at philly fans during the game, especially if their team does awfully; they treat their own teams as shit, and take them for granted

Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad > Originally posted by Androgynous kid with a camera that follows you> > > > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> > Boston needs to whip the Yanks just for the comments that the Yankees prez made about Fenway (and by extentsion Boston) being a culture of disorder or something like that. >

If the Yanks want to see a culture of disorder, they should just go south to Philly after a Sixers, Eagles, or Flyers game in which the home team actually wins. Boston, in comparison, is quite tame. Look at philly fans during the game, especially if their team does awfully; they treat their own teams as shit, and take them for granted And then, when the team makes it to the finals, play offs, or to the Stanley cup, World series, Superbowl, ect, we get ecstatic fans singing tunelessly, "Fly, Eagles, Fly, on the road to victory" or an edited version of Eminem's Slim Shady in which the lyrics are "Will all the real Flyers fans please stand up? Please stand up?" I'm soon expecting an altered version of Nelly's classic song " Shake your tail feather" to become "shake your eagles' feather" as soon as its superbowl time.

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 Boston needs to whip the Yanks just for the comments that the Yankees prez made about Fenway (and by extentsion Boston) being a culture of disorder or something like that. Zimmer's apology was heartfelt, but I doubt it'll do anything to soothe tensions between these two. And damn it all if I have to work tonight, so I miss it again (I missed the first 6 or so innings Saturday).

Agreed. My Bosox buddy was a bit embarrassed about what happened w/ some of the stuff that happened Saturday, but he'll no doubtless be pleased with the results tonight. Pretty good game to watch, but if Wakefield was one of the starters on my staff, I'd really be a nervous wreck about half of the time. Still, I found this great pic of Pedro and Zim, about the only time that a 30-something man can throw down someone who's over 70 and not be charged with assault.

i love the cubs but i admit we should be called the pitsburg cubs or the chicago-pitsburg cubs or the chicago pirates, we wouldnt be here if not for them. (lofton, ramirez, simon)

i hate the broadcasters on fox, WGN radio does the cubs games, they are more fun and more intense, too bad ron santo is so sick. but pat huges rocks. they live by every pitch.

to hell with the curse. im sick of hearing about the goat, the only curse chicago had was the one about having shitty general managers and owners who did not know how to put a winning team together.

if you watch the game tonight, the people on waveland ave. outside the parks are idiots and not cubs fans, but dorks who dont watch the game who wanna get on tv. the majority of die-hards watch cubs games on TV or listen on the radio.

cubs will win tonight :) but the above mentioned idiots, drunk ppl from the bars around wrigley, and bandwagon fans are gonna cause hell outside wrigley field. they all suck.

go cubs!!!!!!

kamar

Green, great Pedro/Zimmer capture clearly showing Pedro tossing Zimmer to the side, not straight down on his face.

Was listening to one of those sports-talk shows last night, the host argued that it was hypocritical of Zimmer to be so upset with Pedro almost beaning somebody considering one of the worst offenders (Roger Clemens) was on his own staff. On one hand, you don't go chewing out one of the all-time greats because he plays a little dirty, but to use that as a defense against an opposing player when one of your own is known for it is a bit shady.

After all, Clemens may be one of the greatest pitchers to ever take the mound, but he does play dirty and often. Anyone remember the whole episodes with Mike Piazza? First Clemens beans him, serious enough that Piazza's down on the ground, then in the Series he unloads a chunk of Piazza's broken bat at him while Piazza's going down the baseline (I'm sure Steinbrenner had something to do with the fact Clemens wasn't suspended, if my memory that nothing was done is correct). Rog is a far nastier bean-baller than I've ever seen Pedro, so Don could have taken a look at his own star "hitter" before using that as an excuse to take a bit of Pedro.

At any rate, Zimmer has been the only one involved who's made an apology (which I still think is legit; the old guy is ashamed of how he behaved, regardless of who's to blame), and I was on the edge of my seat last night watching the last 5 innings (had to work last night), which was a great game. Let's just hope the Cubbies can lock it up tonight.

After all, Clemens may be one of the greatest pitchers to ever take the mound, but he does play dirty and often. Anyone remember the whole episodes with Mike Piazza? First Clemens beans him, serious enough that Piazza's down on the ground, then in the Series he unloads a chunk of Piazza's broken bat at him while Piazza's going down the baseline (I'm sure Steinbrenner had something to do with the fact Clemens wasn't suspended, if my memory that nothing was done is correct). Rog is a far nastier bean-baller than I've ever seen Pedro, so Don could have taken a look at his own star "hitter" before using that as an excuse to take a bit of Pedro.

Piazza seems to be unlucky, just look at his feuds with Guillermo Mota

is'nt it ironic that don zimmer was the last cubs coach to get the cubs this far (1989)? he always was a funny little man.

Red Sox down 3-0 so far....aw shit, why do I let myself care?

I guess a Yankees-Cubs series isn't too bad....

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 Red Sox down 3-0 so far....aw shit, why do I let myself care? I guess a Yankees-Cubs series isn't too bad....

It's fucking awful, The Yanks are the most undeserving team of them all, and I want the Cubs to remain the lovable losers

Ramierez(sic) just hit a homer ....too bad it was a solo shot

Nonetheless, thanks to Yahoo I can keep track of the game, it's 3-1 Yanks

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 Ramierez(sic) just hit a homer ....too bad it was a solo shot Nonetheless, thanks to Yahoo I can keep track of the game, it's 3-1 Yanks

but Millar GIDP'd

Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> Ramierez(sic) just hit a homer ....too bad it was a solo shot > > Nonetheless, thanks to Yahoo I can keep track of the game, it's 3-1 Yanks

but Millar GIDP'd

Yeah, that fucking sucked....I keep hearing about "slugging precentage being higher than 1927 Yankees" but have yet to see any evidence of it

Manny is a pussy!

Bosox lose, how suprising At least Mariano will be a little tired for tomorrow, so if the bosox have to face him again, he may not be as sharp and cutting

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 Red Sox down 3-0 so far....aw shit, why do I let myself care? I guess a Yankees-Cubs series isn't too bad....

Excellent observation ;) that's the spirit Seriously, some nice defense by the Yanks helped 'em out today. Of course, everyone and their brother is sending out a search party for the missing bat of Nomar, which has to be very perplexing for the Bosox faithful; I can feel them urging him on to get the big hit on every at bat.

Still, one more W for the 39th AL pennant for NY On the minus side, I'll get to hear about what went wrong for Boston every day until next April

Originally posted by Green > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> Red Sox down 3-0 so far....aw shit, why do I let myself care? > > I guess a Yankees-Cubs series isn't too bad....

Excellent observation ;) that's the spirit Seriously, some nice defense by the Yanks helped 'em out today. Of course, everyone and their brother is sending out a search party for the missing bat of Nomar, which has to be very perplexing for the Bosox faithful; I can feel them urging him on to get the big hit on every at bat.

Still, one more W for the 39th AL pennant for NY On the minus side, I'll get to hear about what went wrong for Boston every day until next April You know what went wrong? The Bosox hitting has choked continually and consistently, but they may come back; look at how they beat the A's :p

ok, maybe there is a curse as what happened in the 8th inning of tonights cubs/marlins game was the weirdest shit i have ever seen. i was too young in 1984 to know what was happening, but suposedly tonight was very similar to that series.

Originally posted by The Man Up North I can witness that!!!!!First of all, a fan grabs a foul ball at the same moment Moises Alou was about to grab it, at a crucial moment when the Cubs were leading the Marlins 3-0 in the 8th inning with a man on third and another one on first base.And that filled the bases.After that? A stupid error by Gonzalez at SS helps the Fish add a run.And then everything falls apart. Suddenly it's 8-3 Marlins.If the Cubs lose that series, I know one fan who will end up at the end of a rope...

Thank God for the fan!

When I saw that on TV last night, my thoughts were:

WHAT

THE

FUCK?

I mean, the guy is obviously a Cubs fan (judging by the fact he was wearing their gear), what the hell was he doing? And to be fair there were other jack-asses going for the ball (which Alou would've got, btw), so they're not off the hook either, but this dipshit comes out of nowhere and basically hands the Marlins another oppertunity to exhaust Mark Prior, which they proceed to do.

I got some advice for that "fan": Get the hell out of Chicago now, before someone pops a cap in your ass

The great thing about the fan was that he did not break the rules of baseball; he did not reach over the stands to get the ball, so what he did was legal, but the guy is retarded nonetheless; that's a Chicagoan for you But this "interference" hails in comparison to the interference in 1996 in the Yanks-Orioles series, a Yankee hit a ball short of being a homer, but a fan reached over the stands and caught the ball, and no interference was called. This "homer" allowed the Yanks to win the game and the series. So the Yankees undeservingly went to the World Series in 1996. FUCK the Yanks, .....

and Nomar (I am waiting for some SNL spoofs if he chokes some more today)

The cunt's name in that 96 series was Jeff Maier, and the interference happened in game 1, what's worse about the kid (he was 12 at the time) was that I remember he went to an endless amount of New York talk shows and became a ham for the New York media

Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad The great thing about the fan was that he did not break the rules of baseball; he did not reach over the stands to get the ball, so what he did was legal, but the guy is retarded nonetheless; that's a Chicagoan for you But this "interference" hails in comparison to the interference in 1996 in the Yanks-Orioles series, a Yankee hit a ball short of being a homer, but a fan reached over the stands and caught the ball, and no interference was called. This "homer" allowed the Yanks to win the game and the series. So the Yankees undeservingly went to the World Series in 1996. FUCK the Yanks, .....and Nomar (I am waiting for some SNL spoofs if he chokes some more today)

That was what I first thought of when I saw that (of course, back then I was rooting for the Yanks because I had never seen them win a Series in my lifetime. If only I'd known that would lead to several boring World Serieses to follow.... )

As for this turd, his hands were over the rail (from what I saw) and i think you could make a good case for interference, but I don't know that it's be held up. Still, seems like a blown call all the same.

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 > Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad The great thing about the fan was that he did not break the rules of baseball; he did not reach over the stands to get the ball, so what he did was legal, but the guy is retarded nonetheless; that's a Chicagoan for you But this "interference" hails in comparison to the interference in 1996 in the Yanks-Orioles series, a Yankee hit a ball short of being a homer, but a fan reached over the stands and caught the ball, and no interference was called. This "homer" allowed the Yanks to win the game and the series. So the Yankees undeservingly went to the World Series in 1996. FUCK the Yanks, .....and Nomar (I am waiting for some SNL spoofs if he chokes some more today)

That was what I first thought of when I saw that (of course, back then I was rooting for the Yanks because I had never seen them win a Series in my lifetime. If only I'd known that would lead to several boring World Serieses to follow.... )

As for this turd, his hands were over the rail (from what I saw) and i think you could make a good case for interference, but I don't know that it's be held up. Still, seems like a blown call all the same. The problem for us that was the camera angle that made it look like interference for us; the nerd's hands were over the railing slightly, but the ball landed in the stands, so it was not called interference, rightfully so. Thanks God the Trojan did not win :D

chicagoans are retarded? i am a chicagoan? hmmm. i dont think im retarded :)

that "fan" is getting shit in all the papers and sports radio though many people are saying give him a break, any fan would have done the same, and he didnt cause the alex gonzalez error, sammy sosa missing a cut-off man, wild pitch by prior etc....

i was pissed last night and missed school today because i couldnt sleep, but i feel possitive about tonight. here is a funny quote from the chicago sun-times:

"was it the gods? five outs from the world series for the most jinxed team in sports, the cubs, and the gods just said, "hold on a minute, here. the cubs in a world series?"

or...

"it's a good thing they got him out of there, matt said. "they were going to beat the hell out of the guy. he was going to die".

anyways, security gave him a tan jacket to use a dusguise leaveing the ballbark.

i really do feel bad for him, but i wish the other fans would have pushed him out the way, but no, they were all going for the ball as well.

On the minus side, I'll get to hear about what went wrong for Boston every day until next April

Why, is there a lot of Red Sox talk in Oregon thoughout the year?

My view of Chicagoans are directly from SNL, with Chris Farley and the gang as Bears fans; you guys must be retarded, lazy, or crazy to put up w/ the mediocrity of ur sports times; the last time you had a champion was the Bulls, and the management of the team decided to clean house I still do not understand that move, and you lovable losers still go to Cubs games, White Sox games, Blackhawks games, Bears games, and Bulls games. Chicago is this country's third largest metropolitan area and cities such as Anaheim (Angels and Mighty Ducks) have a richer sports history than you do. Plus you have the worst talk show hosts. What's wrong with your city?

Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad Chicago is this country's third largest metropolitan area and cities such as Anaheim (Angels and Mighty Ducks) have a richer sports history than you do.

thhhppppt... i almost pee'd in my pants. richer sports history? anaheim? that's funny.

Originally posted by sean > Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad Chicago is this country's third largest metropolitan area and cities such as Anaheim (Angels and Mighty Ducks) have a richer sports history than you do.

thhhppppt... i almost pee'd in my pants. richer sports history? anaheim? that's funny. Just a hyperbole; I mean I could use Boston (Celtics, Pats, Bruins, Bosox) to compare to Chicago, but Anaheim gives me a more desired effect; just showing how pitiful Chicago teams are; if I offend anyone, too bad

Holy shit, the Red Sox won today

Don't wanna jinx it, but......

Originally posted by Joshua B > On the minus side, I'll get to hear about what went wrong for Boston every day until next April

Why, is there a lot of Red Sox talk in Oregon thoughout the year?

A friend of mine at work is a HUGE fan of the men in red; his family is originally from Massachussets, and he always catches 'em when they're in Seattle. Hell, he even went to the Yankee series in NY when Clemens was going for 300, and he said he was gonna wear his Yankees Suck!!! t-shirt; I told him I'd go to his funeral

Mike Greenwell is his fave player of all time, and we banter and trash talk all year long about everything, but it's all in fun out here; I can only imagine what it's like out your way. If I ever post anything that's really anti-Boston, it usually means that my friend has gone overboard on the hyperbole (Nomar is God, etc). I laughed at him when he predicted in March that they'd win 115 games; I just said 95 would be more likely, cause I said that there bullpen would let 'em down. Hats off especially to Mike Timlin for being such a stud in this series, and for shoring up that weakness.

Still, one more game, Pedro vs. Roger; I still gotta say Go Yankees :)

Originally posted by Jeff White > Originally posted by Green> > > > everyone and their brother is sending out a search party for the missing bat of Nomar:>

What do you reckon Mia has done with NoMore's bat???

Is that a cue for a dirty joke or something

Originally posted by The Man Up North f*** you gutless cowards in Cubbie Blue. 1908 forever you gutless chokers. 3-1 lead with your 3 best pitchers going and you blow it?Unbelievable.I am gonna be sick. :barf:

Really unbelievable!!! Hell, Jack McKeon was managing for Kansas City when I was a little kid; the baseball gods must be crazy indeed...

Cubbies are dead, dead, dead I love the frowns of the Cub fans I really hated the spring up of Cub "fans" in SD and LA during the playoffs; never have I seen so many cub caps

never was a whitesox fan, never will be. i dont talk shit about them but rather ignore them all-together.

we choked. marlins played better, ill be pulling for them in the world series regardless of who they play.

man up north, at least the cubs will still be drawing fans to games unlike montreal who had to play "home" games in puerto rico because of lack of interest in montreal.

bandwagon fans hanging around wrigley can go to hell. i wont miss them one at all.

QUOTE]I still do not understand that move, and you lovable losers still go to Cubs games, White Sox games, Blackhawks games, Bears games, and Bulls games..

it is called devotion and unconditional love. we hate losing all the time and do give our teams management and owners shit. for me personally, i love sports and will continue to support the teams i love. and i am a fan of baseball enough to admit our loveable losers choked, the marlins are a better team and deserve to go to the world series.

Green, thanks for that explaination about your friend being a diehard Sox fan. That is funny about Mike Greenwell being his all-time favorite player. I used to like Carney Lansford and Marty Barrett. Two years ago my favorite player was Rich "El Guapo" Garces. This year I like Johnny Damon but obviously David Ortiz is the man.

Well last night was a huge win for the Red Sox and a demoralizing loss for the Yankees. Burkett vs Pettitte? That should have been an automatic win for the Yankees. I hate to continue the cliche, but the Red Sox did Cowboy Up like they've been doing all season.

Tonight will be one for the ages. Martinez vs Clemens for the World Series spot makes this game one of the biggest in all of sports history.

All I gotta say about the NLCS is: I wouldn't want to be that ball-catching fan right about now!

The Marlins are a hell of a team, they just don't strike me as having an identifiable fan base. Look at all those home games during the season, there were rows and rows of empty seats. I've never cared for the Marlins, I thought the '97 Series was a joke and probably the worst I ever saw (and I couldn't get behind either team), but this team could win it all.

I tell you what, let's try a bit of "reverse psychology" seeing as every prediction I've made in favor of a team I wanted to win has come back to bite me when they don't. Perhaps the baseball gods will mistake this for genuine hoping on my part and grant the exact opposite:

1.The Yankees beat the crap out of the Red Sox 14-2

2.Failing that, the Marlins take the Sox down in a four-game sweep

That sound "genuine" enough?

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 All I gotta say about the NLCS is: I wouldn't want to be that ball-catching fan right about now! The Marlins are a hell of a team, they just don't strike me as having an identifiable fan base. Look at all those home games during the season, there were rows and rows of empty seats. I've never cared for the Marlins, I thought the '97 Series was a joke and probably the worst I ever saw (and I couldn't get behind either team), but this team could win it all.I tell you what, let's try a bit of "reverse psychology" seeing as every prediction I've made in favor of a team I wanted to win has come back to bite me when they don't. Perhaps the baseball gods will mistake this for genuine hoping on my part and grant the exact opposite:1.The Yankees beat the crap out of the Red Sox 14-2 2.Failing that, the Marlins take the Sox down in a four-game sweep That sound "genuine" enough?

How bout Steinbrenner does NOT get hit by a lightning strike, and Joe Torre does NOT get fired after they do NOT lose to the sox tonight, so that Torre does NOT end up as the Dodgers manager

Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> All I gotta say about the NLCS is: I wouldn't want to be that ball-catching fan right about now! > > The Marlins are a hell of a team, they just don't strike me as having an identifiable fan base. Look at all those home games during the season, there were rows and rows of empty seats. I've never cared for the Marlins, I thought the '97 Series was a joke and probably the worst I ever saw (and I couldn't get behind either team), but this team could win it all.> > I tell you what, let's try a bit of "reverse psychology" seeing as every prediction I've made in favor of a team I wanted to win has come back to bite me when they don't. Perhaps the baseball gods will mistake this for genuine hoping on my part and grant the exact opposite:> > 1.The Yankees beat the crap out of the Red Sox 14-2 > > 2.Failing that, the Marlins take the Sox down in a four-game sweep > > That sound "genuine" enough?

How bout Steinbrenner does NOT get hit by a lightning strike, and Joe Torre does NOT get fired after they do NOT lose to the sox tonight, so that Torre does NOT end up as the Dodgers manager

I still like Torre, Jeter, and some of the other guys who've been around since the '96 series (but not Jorge Posada....never liked him), but I don't like how Steinbrenner tries to "buy" a championship with guys like Clemens, Giambi, Matsui, etc. Nobody's mourning the loss of Chuck Knobloch, mind you, but the team from the late 90s seemed like a real team (kinda like the Marlins now), and it's a shame Paul O'Neil, Scott Brosius, and some of the other bulwarks of the '98 and '99 teams aren't around anymore, replaced by "here today, gone tomorrow" lunkheads who probably have no loyalty to the Yankee legacy. Noentheless, if the Yanks DO go to the Series and WIN (again, reverse psychology), this could be Torre's last year in a Yankee uniform, and Steinbrenner can help lead the rabble now masqurading as the Yankees to more meaningless Championships

You forgot Tino martinez! But that 96 championship is still illegitimate to me, damn fan interference in the Oriole series

Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad You forgot Tino martinez! But that 96 championship is still illegitimate to me, damn fan interference in the Oriole series

Dammit, Tino was the MAN! He's playing for somebody else now, either he lost his talent or Steinbrenner lost his temper.

Well, '98 was legit, as was '99, but '00 and Clemens-with-the-bat was the beginning of the end for me, Yankees-wise. I'll come back to the fold when Steiny kicks it and someone sensible takes over, but for now I'm the Prodigal Yankee Fan....forced to wander in a netherworld of attaching myself to lesser teams talent-wise, who nonetheless don't approach the game like it's one more way to get commercial endorsements.

On the plus side, maybe Don Zimmer should consider doing an ad for Viagra ("I was able to charge Pedro because I had a stiffy a mile wide and felt like I was seventeen again. Thanks, Viagra!")

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 > Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad You forgot Tino martinez! But that 96 championship is still illegitimate to me, damn fan interference in the Oriole series

Dammit, Tino was the MAN! He's playing for somebody else now, either he lost his talent or Steinbrenner lost his temper.

Well, '98 was legit, as was '99, but '00 and Clemens-with-the-bat was the beginning of the end for me, Yankees-wise. I'll come back to the fold when Steiny kicks it and someone sensible takes over, but for now I'm the Prodigal Yankee Fan....forced to wander in a netherworld of attaching myself to lesser teams talent-wise, who nonetheless don't approach the game like it's one more way to get commercial endorsements.

On the plus side, maybe Don Zimmer should consider doing an ad for Viagra ("I was able to charge Pedro because I had a stiffy a mile wide and felt like I was seventeen again. Thanks, Viagra!") You are a South Carolinian Yankee fan Why? When? How? Why aren't you a Braves fan like any other good Southern boy?

Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> > > > Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad> You forgot Tino martinez! But that 96 championship is still illegitimate to me, damn fan interference in the Oriole series

Dammit, Tino was the MAN! He's playing for somebody else now, either he lost his talent or Steinbrenner lost his temper.

Well, '98 was legit, as was '99, but '00 and Clemens-with-the-bat was the beginning of the end for me, Yankees-wise. I'll come back to the fold when Steiny kicks it and someone sensible takes over, but for now I'm the Prodigal Yankee Fan....forced to wander in a netherworld of attaching myself to lesser teams talent-wise, who nonetheless don't approach the game like it's one more way to get commercial endorsements.

On the plus side, maybe Don Zimmer should consider doing an ad for Viagra ("I was able to charge Pedro because I had a stiffy a mile wide and felt like I was seventeen again. Thanks, Viagra!") You are a South Carolinian Yankee fan Why? When? How? Why aren't you a Braves fan like any other good Southern boy?

Atlanta broke my heart one too many times in the early 90s (back when they started selling themselves as "America's Team", yet never seemed to finish what they'd started in the World Series). They had the best picthing staff in all of baseball (Smoltz, Avery, Maddux, Glavine) but no bats. This year, they had the bats but not the pitching. When they get the dynamic equal, they might actually win another one to go with 1995's ring....

Where did Avery go? Is he still with the Tigers?

Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad Where did Avery go? Is he still with the Tigers?

Avery never was as good as Maddox et al, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's still with the Tigers come next season...or out of baseball entirely. :D

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 > Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad Where did Avery go? Is he still with the Tigers?

Avery never was as good as Maddox et al, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's still with the Tigers come next season...or out of baseball entirely. :D yep Avery is still with the Tigers, he pitched sixteen innings for them this year

Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> > > > Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad> Where did Avery go? Is he still with the Tigers?

Avery never was as good as Maddox et al, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's still with the Tigers come next season...or out of baseball entirely. :D yep Avery is still with the Tigers, he pitched sixteen innings for them this year

The Tigers...now that's a story for the ages, how they almost became the losingest team in baseball history

I hear the Brewers had a shitty team this year, maybe I'll jump on their bandwagon :D

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 I hear the Brewers had a shitty team this year, maybe I'll jump on their bandwagon :D

If u become a Brewer fan you can be a fan of Big Sexy, Richie Sexson :D

Fucking Grady Little did not take Pedro out of the fucking game, when he fucking should have.... FUCK

I hope Mariano get's struck by lightning, or like in Python, gets smashed by a giant foot

you missed a "fucking" in front of "foot" ;)

Hi folks, I don't post much, but I need to share... I am in Boston, in front of a TV with my friends, it's the top of the 11th, and I think my head is going to explode.

Just one word...

Fudge! (hehe you thought I would say fuck, now didn't you )

The thing that makes this whole situation worse is that Aaron Boone went to the University of Spoiled Children, and no Trevor I am not talking about the university of south carolina; a damn Trojan has to ruin my night. That just adds to my rage; I do not know what to do now, go beat up some people at USC, go burn down Yankee Stadium, or go to New York to give a swift kick in the balls to George Steinbrenner, who is one Republican I detest; 180 million dollar payroll!?!

Since I seem to be the only one on this board pulling for the Yanks, I really gotta hand it to the Bosox for fighting tooth and nail for the full seven games; one of these years, that curse will finally be lifted. Helluva game to watch, it's gotta be a bummer to stay up that late on the east coast to see something like that. Don't worry Josh, I'll be very nice to my coworker tomorrow morning, we don't need any aggrovation on a Friday morning

Originally posted by Green Since I seem to be the only one on this board pulling for the Yanks, I really gotta hand it to the Bosox for fighting tooth and nail for the full seven games; one of these years, that curse will finally be lifted. Helluva game to watch, it's gotta be a bummer to stay up that late on the east coast to see something like that. Don't worry Josh, I'll be very nice to my coworker tomorrow morning, we don't need any aggrovation on a Friday morning

How can anyone root for a team w/ a convicted felon as an owner who spends 180 million dollars in salaries to buy every player he can. Other things: Rocket is a damn jerk, Jeter is overrated and damn annoying, Giambi underachieves, Mariano's cutter should be illegal (he is the only Yank I respect), Zimmer is a crocodile tears jerk, the list can go one and on, but i will restrain myself

Originally posted by Deadly Viper Assassination Squad > Originally posted by Green> Since I seem to be the only one on this board pulling for the Yanks, I really gotta hand it to the Bosox for fighting tooth and nail for the full seven games; one of these years, that curse will finally be lifted. Helluva game to watch, it's gotta be a bummer to stay up that late on the east coast to see something like that. Don't worry Josh, I'll be very nice to my coworker tomorrow morning, we don't need any aggrovation on a Friday morning

How can anyone root for a team w/ a convicted felon as an owner who spends 180 million dollars in salaries to buy every player he can. Other things: Rocket is a damn jerk, Jeter is overrated and damn annoying, Giambi underachieves, Mariano's cutter should be illegal (he is the only Yank I respect), Zimmer is a crocodile tears jerk, the list can go one and on, but i will restrain myself

I agree with all but Jeter, who I think (apart from his stupid ads with Steinbrenner) is a good player. Not only that, he's the only identifiable "personality" on the team. Everybody else can be bought and sold, but the minute Steiny ever thinks about getting rid of Jeter he'll be run out of town on the horse's ass he came in on. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say one day people will be talking about Jeter the way they talk about Dimaggio and Mantle (but probably not Ruth).

As for the BoSox...apparently reverse psychology don't work on them baseball gods! Martinez was dominant the first seven innings, but of course (just around the time the Fox announcer stated that they were "five outs away from a World Series") the Yanks started showing why they spend all that money. The Corporate Goliath was victorious over the Playing-With-Heart David once again.

As for the Series itself...unwatchable. I do have to admit my addiction to baseball cost me a lot of hours of sleep this week, and while I have to admit I can't completely subdue my Yankee affections, they're not the same team I rooted for earlier and I can't say I'd care either way.

I have to admit I can't completely subdue my Yankee affections

If you like the Yankees and not the Braves, then what hell are you doing below the Mason-Dixon line? I would imagine you are very bored in the SC wilderness; move to an urban area, where there are more women, so you have a greater chance of getting laid? :D

I'm not really a big Yankee fan at all (Mets, Giants, and Mariners here), and those are great reasons to hate NY, though I don't consider Jeter to be overrated at all, he's helped win all those rings, which Nomar and A-Rod have yet to do.

When I started watching and playing baseball, in the pre-George era, the Yanks weren't that good at all, though Mel Stottlemyre was a pretty decent pitcher back then. Don't forget that they recently went over a decade without winning even a division title, so I'd say that the aggresive pursuit of top players by NY hasn't always panned out successfully Year By Year........

However, if George does get rid of Brian Cashman because he thinks he can be a better director of player personnel, in these days of his increasing rage, then that would be a sad development.

Gave my Bosox coworker a big hug today; the poor guy was devasted, and I certainly wasn't gonna rub it in his face. He thought they blew their chance by not scoring in the fourth with 2 on and no outs, but that superb effort by Mussina quelled that fire. Can't wait till next February when spring traing starts and then he'll walk into work and say that "This is when the real men show up to work" I love you lots, John, keep it up.

Florida will give 'em all they can handle, I think; they can run the bases well, so they should be able to produce some runs, we'll see how the pitching holds up, but the fact that Florida had the best record in baseball since they changed their manager is a fact not to be ignored. Still, the Yanks in 6.

I'll be bold and predict the Marlins in 5, I believe that the Marlins staff will not have a problem w/ theslumping Yankee hitting, and the Yankee D will have catastrophe dealing w/ Pierre

Originally posted by Spotnick Oh now PLEASE, don't let the fu**ing Marlins win the World Series or I'll be so sick..........:\puke:Do I hate Jeffrey Loria & David Midget Samson...

You'd rather let the Yankees win their twenty seventh series I hope the D Train runs all over the Bronx bombers

Well, you know, the Marlins have a long and storied history, going back to the early 90s, and they've only won in the World Series once (1997). Thereafter followed a six-year drought in which the millions of Marlins fans the world over suffered, saying "wait until next year" even though, in their hearts, they know it's probably not gonna happen. Now, after such a long time between championships, the Marlins finally have a chance to erase the curse of the "Sale-Happy Owner" from their history books. I can only hope, should the Yankees defeat them, that the Marlins can recover.

:D

moving that was really moving Trevor now just recognize the Fish in 6! Foxsports predicts Fish in 5

Here's a little something I wrote, especially for you Mr. Steve Bartman (is that the jack-off's name?).

http://www.nothing-sacred.net/articles/3/363/

Yanks lose, Yanks lose, Yanks lose Juan Pierre allowed the Fish to squeak past the Yanks, and the D-Train (a product of the Cub farm system ) did an awesome job in relief, and the Marlin defense was awesome for all the key plays.

Did anybody really doubt the Yankees would lose the first game? Especially after that extended ALCS against Boston, so soon before the start of the Series? They were tired last night, and the Marlins proved to be the better team. Remember how everyone thought the Yanks were out of it in '96, two games down versus the Braves? I'd hold off on the gloating for a while....:D

dont underestimate the marlins, they got a really good team, proved it against the cubs and last night in game 1, should be a good game tonight.

Originally posted by kamar khan dont underestimate the marlins, they got a really good team, proved it against the cubs and last night in game 1, should be a good game tonight.

I wasn't, I'm just saying it may be a more evenly-matched Series than TJ would like :D

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 Did anybody really doubt the Yankees would lose the first game? Especially after that extended ALCS against Boston, so soon before the start of the Series? They were tired last night, and the Marlins proved to be the better team. Remember how everyone thought the Yanks were out of it in '96, two games down versus the Braves? I'd hold off on the gloating for a while....:D

We all know why the Yanks got into the Series in 96 , and I believe the Fish will lose tonight, but they will end up winning in 5 or 6, damn the game is already 4-0

Originally posted by World in Commotion > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> Did anybody really doubt the Yankees would lose the first game? Especially after that extended ALCS against Boston, so soon before the start of the Series? They were tired last night, and the Marlins proved to be the better team. Remember how everyone thought the Yanks were out of it in '96, two games down versus the Braves? I'd hold off on the gloating for a while....:D

We all know why the Yanks got into the Series in 96 , and I believe the Fish will lose tonight, but they will end up winning in 5 or 6, damn the game is already 4-0

I think this might go all to 7 games, but I can't really bring myself to watch it. I can't really say who'll win, but I have a feeling Joe Torre's job may depend on it. If he and George part their ways, I think the Yanks will probably sink into another decade-long slump. He's one of the best managers in the game, any team would be lucky to have him

man up north, i love the video clip of the penguins under your name. where did you find that? kamar

i agree with you on the payroll issue, if i was a yankees fan, id love steinbrenner(sp) to death,usually, the only people who complain about his payroll are people who hate the yankees. i want the cubs to spend more and get a catcher who can hit. fuck bako/miller. and a bullpen that dusty is not afraid to use.

Originally posted by kamar khan man up north, i love the video clip of the penguins under your name. where did you find that?kamari agree with you on the payroll issue, if i was a yankees fan, id love steinbrenner(sp) to death,usually, the only people who complain about his payroll are people who hate the yankees. i want the cubs to spend more and get a catcher who can hit. fuck bako/miller. and a bullpen that dusty is not afraid to use.

maybe the cubbies should have went after pudge last winter :D

we were hoping they would, but they were cheap, boy, did that come back to hurt us :( oh and i heard today the cubs are 8th in the league in payroll, the whitsox were 17 or something. 17 mil of the cubs 86 mil salary goes to sammy sosa, take that out and the cubs are at the same level of the W. sox. i love sosa, but get rid of him and go after valdamir Guerro.

Originally posted by kamar khan we were hoping they would, but they were cheap, boy, did that come back to hurt us :(oh and i heard today the cubs are 8th in the league in payroll, the whitsox were 17 or something. 17 mil of the cubs 86 mil salary goes to sammy sosa, take that out and the cubs are at the same level of the W. sox. i love sosa, but get rid of him and go after valdamir Guerro.

You know as well as I do that anyone in the Cubs organization even thinking about trading Sammy away would be run out of town faster than Steve Bartman and that damned billy goat. On the other hand, you have to consider whether or not he's been a huge help to the team lately. Nobody's expendable anymore when it comes to baseball

Originally posted by kamar khan we were hoping they would, but they were cheap, boy, did that come back to hurt us :(oh and i heard today the cubs are 8th in the league in payroll, the whitsox were 17 or something. 17 mil of the cubs 86 mil salary goes to sammy sosa, take that out and the cubs are at the same level of the W. sox. i love sosa, but get rid of him and go after valdamir Guerro.

Getting Vlad is dangerous, with his massive swing he is messing up his back, which is why he was hurt last season, until he changes his swing, Vlad is a gamble for any team

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 > Originally posted by kamar khan> we were hoping they would, but they were cheap, boy, did that come back to hurt us :(> oh and i heard today the cubs are 8th in the league in payroll, the whitsox were 17 or something. 17 mil of the cubs 86 mil salary goes to sammy sosa, take that out and the cubs are at the same level of the W. sox. i love sosa, but get rid of him and go after valdamir Guerro.

You know as well as I do that anyone in the Cubs organization even thinking about trading Sammy away would be run out of town faster than Steve Bartman and that damned billy goat. On the other hand, you have to consider whether or not he's been a huge help to the team lately. Nobody's expendable anymore when it comes to baseball Joe Torre seems to think Nick Johnson is expendable

Originally posted by World in Commotion > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> > > > Originally posted by kamar khan> > we were hoping they would, but they were cheap, boy, did that come back to hurt us :(> > oh and i heard today the cubs are 8th in the league in payroll, the whitsox were 17 or something. 17 mil of the cubs 86 mil salary goes to sammy sosa, take that out and the cubs are at the same level of the W. sox. i love sosa, but get rid of him and go after valdamir Guerro.>

You know as well as I do that anyone in the Cubs organization even thinking about trading Sammy away would be run out of town faster than Steve Bartman and that damned billy goat. On the other hand, you have to consider whether or not he's been a huge help to the team lately. Nobody's expendable anymore when it comes to baseball Joe Torre seems to think Nick Johnson is expendable

I can't get behind this team; apart from Jeter and maybe Boone (who I think will forever be remebered in Boston, regardless of whether he's with the team next year), there's nobody to root for. Well, Mariano is the best closer period, but he's only out there for a little while. I think Wells is beginning to lose his edge, Pettitte's still solid but probably won't be around next year, and Clemens is the jackass who tried to basically kill Piazza. Everyone else is bought-and-sold, and even though I'm a - sigh - Yankee fan, I can't stand the way King George has spent his wealth.

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 > Originally posted by World in Commotion > Originally posted by Taboo # 7> > > > Originally posted by kamar khan> > we were hoping they would, but they were cheap, boy, did that come back to hurt us :(> > oh and i heard today the cubs are 8th in the league in payroll, the whitsox were 17 or something. 17 mil of the cubs 86 mil salary goes to sammy sosa, take that out and the cubs are at the same level of the W. sox. i love sosa, but get rid of him and go after valdamir Guerro.>

You know as well as I do that anyone in the Cubs organization even thinking about trading Sammy away would be run out of town faster than Steve Bartman and that damned billy goat. On the other hand, you have to consider whether or not he's been a huge help to the team lately. Nobody's expendable anymore when it comes to baseball Joe Torre seems to think Nick Johnson is expendable

I can't get behind this team; apart from Jeter and maybe Boone (who I think will forever be remebered in Boston, regardless of whether he's with the team next year), there's nobody to root for. Well, Mariano is the best closer period, but he's only out there for a little while. I think Wells is beginning to lose his edge, Pettitte's still solid but probably won't be around next year, and Clemens is the jackass who tried to basically kill Piazza. Everyone else is bought-and-sold, and even though I'm a - sigh - Yankee fan, I can't stand the way King George has spent his wealth. umm... Gagne is the best closer period, he has been for the past two years, and don't you love that Belle and Sebastian song "Piazza, New York Catcher"

sosa is expendable. he strikes out way too much, is a sub-par right fielder (slow/no arm), teamates seem to dislike him, in key situations when your team needs a walk, sacrifice, single, etc... sammy will 7 times out of 10 strike out on a bad pitch. most his homeruns come when the cubs are in the lead. get rid of him and you can get at least 3 good starting players who can make up the homeruns and rbi difference play better defense and be more valuable as a threat running the bases. "sammy traded his arm and speed for homeruns"---my friend tim.

Originally posted by kamar khan sosa is expendable. he strikes out way too much, is a sub-par right fielder (slow/no arm), teamates seem to dislike him, in key situations when your team needs a walk, sacrifice, single, etc... sammy will 7 times out of 10 strike out on a bad pitch. most his homeruns come when the cubs are in the lead. get rid of him and you can get at least 3 good starting players who can make up the homeruns and rbi difference play better defense and be more valuable as a threat running the bases. "sammy traded his arm and speed for homeruns"---my friend tim.

For years Sosa has been the only reason to watch th Cubs, and I would be very suprised to see him traded, and I do not think he deserves to be traded; he still remains the best Cub power hitter, and getting Vlad would not fill the void left by Sammy, especially since Vlad is very injury prone.

In the audience in Yankee stadium were Billy Crystal and Robin Williams, but Proplayer produced a better twosome: Mike Tyson and Yanni, and they even had David Cassidy in the seventh inning stretch. I the celebrity turnout in Miami.

Originally posted by World in Commotion In the audience in Yankee stadium were Billy Crystal and Robin Williams, but Proplayer produced a better twosome: Mike Tyson and Yanni, and they even had David Cassidy in the seventh inning stretch. I the celebrity turnout in Miami.

Hey, as long as the next "Joe Millionaire" turns up in the stands, I'll be happy

As for Gagne V. Mariano, I meant post-season. Let's see you argue with THAT! :p

Originally posted by Taboo # 7 > Originally posted by World in Commotion In the audience in Yankee stadium were Billy Crystal and Robin Williams, but Proplayer produced a better twosome: Mike Tyson and Yanni, and they even had David Cassidy in the seventh inning stretch. I the celebrity turnout in Miami.

Hey, as long as the next "Joe Millionaire" turns up in the stands, I'll be happy

As for Gagne V. Mariano, I meant post-season. Let's see you argue with THAT! :p Gagne would be the best postseason closer if the dodgers could get some hits; c'mon they had the best team ERA by far this year, and they failed to make the playoffs. Remaining a dodger fan is hard, depressing work.

CONGRATS to the Fish! :jump2: and to the Yanks :moon: McKeon did an awesome job, and Beckett pitched a brilliant game, and IRod was brilliant through the playoffs. I surely hope this Marlin team can stick together.

Originally posted by World in Commotion CONGRATS to the Fish! :jump2: and to the Yanks :moon: McKeon did an awesome job, and Beckett pitched a brilliant game, and IRod was brilliant through the playoffs. I surely hope this Marlin team can stick together.

I would not want to be in any way associated with the Yankees organization this morning; you can almost hear George getting the guillotine ready. I will make the following predictions:

Boone, Johnson, and Pettitte will be traded or let go.

Clemens will stay true to his word, while Wells will probably start looking for a better place to hang his head.

Zimmer's already announced he's leaving, Stottlemyre will follow suit, and Torre will be around for at least one more season before Steinbrenner axes him.

Jeter will have to look over his shoulder, but I doubt he'll get cut.

Matsui and Giambi will stick around, if only because they've embarrassed the team enough.

As for the Marlins:

IRod would (I hope) realize how fragile the "Marlins fan base" is (all two of 'em) and decide to stick around. if not, it's his loss.

Trader Jack will retire to the front office after next year, especially if the Marlins win again or put up a good showing.

All the rookies this year (Willis and the other guys whose names I can't recall) will improve, with Beckett and Willis and Penney as the best rotation in baseball.

...and the people of Miami still won't give a shit about their team :D

Miami will continue to only care about their Dolphins that always choke by the end of the year.

Originally posted by World in Commotion CONGRATS to the Fish! :jump2: and to the Yanks :moon: McKeon did an awesome job, and Beckett pitched a brilliant game, and IRod was brilliant through the playoffs. I surely hope this Marlin team can stick together.

Yes indeed, congrats are in order for the Fish, clutch pitching by Mr. Beckett, superb stuff

Though I rooted for NY, I can't feel bad, especially for Pudge and Jack McKeon and all of the youngsters who truly proved the second half of the season was no fluke at all, and gave hope to most of the teams in MLB, all of 'em, that is, except for Detroit, Boston and Chicago ;)

At least we know there won't be a fire sale this year, right?

Originally posted by Green > Originally posted by World in Commotion CONGRATS to the Fish! :jump2: and to the Yanks :moon: McKeon did an awesome job, and Beckett pitched a brilliant game, and IRod was brilliant through the playoffs. I surely hope this Marlin team can stick together.

Yes indeed, congrats are in order for the Fish, clutch pitching by Mr. Beckett, superb stuff

Though I rooted for NY, I can't feel bad, especially for Pudge and Jack McKeon and all of the youngsters who truly proved the second half of the season was no fluke at all, and gave hope to most of the teams in MLB, all of 'em, that is, except for Detroit, Boston and Chicago ;)

At least we know there won't be a fire sale this year, right? there will be a fire sale in New York; George will clear house.

the marlin fans wont give a shit until they are in the playoffs again. i just hope the marlins are not a one-hit wonder like the angels were. josh bekett is god of baseball. i hated him when he pitched against the cubs but as soon as i heard he was starting game 6, i knew it was over. is it true marlins closer something uriba already filed for free-aganecy a day after winning the world series? thats F@#^$ up. comgratulations marlins! this was one of the best post seasons ive ever watched.

Kamar

Originally posted by kamar khan the marlin fans wont give a shit until they are in the playoffs again. i just hope the marlins are not a one-hit wonder like the angels were. josh bekett is god of baseball. i hated him when he pitched against the cubs but as soon as i heard he was starting game 6, i knew it was over. is it true marlins closer something uriba already filed for free-aganecy a day after winning the world series? thats F@#^$ up. comgratulations marlins! this was one of the best post seasons ive ever watched.Kamar

If the only person the Fish lose is Ugueth Urbina, they would be rather lucky, for Ooghie screwed up in the playoffs; he did get one iwn, but he did blow two saves.