I love Brazil!!! — Forum Archive

13 Jan 2004, 08:00

By Andrei Khalip

RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil (Reuters) - Brazil's controversial fingerprinting of U.S. visitors will remain in force despite a court order won by tourist mecca Rio de Janeiro to suspend the measure, officials said on Monday.

A judge on Friday suspended the original court ruling that imposed the fingerprinting of U.S. travelers but he left the final decision up to the federal government. And on Saturday the foreign ministry said it would keep the system in place in Rio and the rest of Brazil for at least 30 days.

Rio had filed the appeal, saying the fingerprinting would harm tourism. U.S. tourists spend about $250 million in Rio each year.

At Rio's international airport and at the sea port, U.S. tourists were again waiting on Monday in the long lines that have become common since the system went into effect on Jan. 1 in response to a similar U.S. scheme.

The United States on Jan. 5 started fingerprinting and photographing visitors, including Brazilians, who need visas to enter the country as part of anti-terrorism controls. The system exempts citizens of 27 mainly European nations who do not need visas for short trips.

In retaliation, a Brazilian (news - web sites) judge ordered the fingerprinting of U.S. visitors.

"It is very frustrating to come to Brazil and spend 45 minutes in the line after long hours on the plane," said Olivia Doerhe, a 20-year-old student from Iowa. She said it took the officials 10 minutes to take her fingerprints and photographs.

Some complained they had been stranded in line while federal police officials were lunching. But airport officials said the time visitors spent waiting was now much shorter.

Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva and President Bush (news - web sites), in Mexico for the two-day Americas summit, were set to discuss the measure, which has been hailed by many Brazilians but labeled discriminatory by Washington.

Rio mayor's office said the measure had led to cancellations of group tours and damaged the city's economy.

To soften the blow, Rio tourism authorities have take steps to make Americans feel welcome.

Starting on Tuesday U.S. tourists will be greeted with T-shirts saying "Rio loves you" and given souvenirs and flowers as compensation for their discomfort at the airport. (Additional reporting by Bruno Domingos)

Glad to see someone is willing to give us a taste of our own medicine!!!

13 Jan 2004, 09:41

Yeah, I really think it's Terry Gilliam's best.......oh, you mean the country Brazil :blush:

13 Jan 2004, 09:56

I like Brazil nuts; they're not better than almonds, but they are rather decent :p

13 Jan 2004, 10:04

Brazil nuts???

why are you referring to our departed friend Julio???:)

13 Jan 2004, 11:54

Well, Mr Error posted about this 2 weeks ago, sorry Jeff :lol:

Link: Playing Piano at the Airport

13 Jan 2004, 11:58

To be honest, I would *NEVER* let the damned US customs take my fingerprints, NEVER...

So I'm happy to see this going...

As you might know, Canadians don't need visas unless we WORK in the US, this actually means that if I need a work visa (and green card) for the US, I need to be treated like a criminal, have my fingerprints taken and pictures just like a real criminal..

Non sense...I mean, it's not because somebody isn't caucasian that he's having more chances to be a terrorist.. ask that to Timothy McVeight (sp?)....

:nuts:

13 Jan 2004, 13:32

uhm...well...erm...CRAAAAAAAAAAAP....I thought I was first to spot this one...sniff sniff...

13 Jan 2004, 13:34

Rio's mayor is an asshole.

13 Jan 2004, 13:36

Originally posted by Jeff uhm...well...erm...CRAAAAAAAAAAAP....I thought I was first to spot this one...sniff sniff...

Well, you were the first AMERICAN to do it, and that makes a difference.

Congrats, Jeff.

13 Jan 2004, 14:08

Originally posted by Spider In A Land Of Meat Rio's mayor is an asshole.

His agent's a cunt an all.

13 Jan 2004, 14:18

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Brazil, the only country in the world that has the balls to do what they have to do. each and every country should follow their example. why eating s--t from the american goverment? suddenly we are ALL terrorists? BUT them? HA, that´s funny! :wtf:

f--k Bush and his court of fascists! :finger:

cheers to the american people who have to stand this morrons. soon you´ll be able to vote and throw them out. and i hope forever.

13 Jan 2004, 14:24

To soften the blow, Rio tourism authorities have take steps to make Americans feel welcome.

When he said "Rio tourism authorities" he meant "those monkeys from the Simpsons"

13 Jan 2004, 14:39

No Comment!

14 Jan 2004, 00:36

Hum, but you know Alejo that south americans are terrorists in Hollywood, which is probably Bush's sources :lol:

Ok, me bad ;)

14 Jan 2004, 00:41

Originally posted by Spotnick Hum, but you know Alejo that south americans are terrorists in Hollywood, which is probably Bush's sources

no, i didn´t know. please tell me what they do! ;)

14 Jan 2004, 07:06

Originally posted by almanso Brazil, the only country in the world that has the balls to do what they have to do. each and every country should follow their example. why eating s--t from the american goverment? suddenly we are ALL terrorists? BUT them? HA, that´s funny! f--k Bush and his court of fascists! :finger:cheers to the american people who have to stand this morrons. soon you´ll be able to vote and throw them out. and i hope forever.

Brasilian president made me feel extra ashamed of our politicians here. See Greece is the only EU country that its citizens should get a VISA when visiting the US. And what did our guys do instead of protesting about this unucceptable exclusion?? Nothing, except that they promised to the US authorities that they ll change the way passports are issued here, so that they can have access to the data, as well as the other EU countries (something like "ok boss, we promise we re gonna be good boys in the future"). :thumbdown:

14 Jan 2004, 11:22

Originally posted by almanso > Originally posted by Spotnick> Hum, but you know Alejo that south americans are terrorists in Hollywood, which is probably Bush's sources

no, i didn´t know. please tell me what they do! ;)

Since the evil communists have gone away...loads of U.S. action movies show us that ALL South Americans are drug lords (or their lackeys) that must be destroyed with spectacular explosions, air strikes, assassinations, and so on...so watch your step if I ever make it to Buenos Aires!!! :eek3:

14 Jan 2004, 14:06

why? you don´t want those drugs you asked me anymore? :p

14 Jan 2004, 14:13

Originally posted by almanso why? you don´t want those drugs you asked me anymore? :p

Is there coca plantations in Argentina ? :skeptic:

:evil4:

14 Jan 2004, 14:38

Originally posted by almanso why? you don´t want those drugs you asked me anymore? :p

Oh...I want them...but Harrison Ford might be lurking about waiting to destroy us with one of those shoulder launched missile devices!!!

14 Jan 2004, 17:49

Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by almanso why? you don´t want those drugs you asked me anymore? :p

Is there coca plantations in Argentina ? :skeptic:

:evil4:

Pepsi. We're talking about drugs, here.

14 Jan 2004, 20:11

After watching Terry Gilliam's documentary on Brazil I never had a desire to got there.

Consider yourself lucky that Brazil has not been a target of terrorism.

14 Jan 2004, 20:47

Originally posted by twist After watching Terry Gilliam's documentary on Brazil I never had a desire to got there.Consider yourself lucky that Brazil has not been a target of terrorism.

And why should we have terrorism attacks?

14 Jan 2004, 20:52

Originally posted by twist After watching Terry Gilliam's documentary on Brazil I never had a desire to got there.Consider yourself lucky that Brazil has not been a target of terrorism.

I also saw that documentary, but I believe there were a number of terrorists in it. It does open with an explosion, after all.

15 Jan 2004, 01:59

Originally posted by twist After watching Terry Gilliam's documentary on Brazil I never had a desire to got there.Consider yourself lucky that Brazil has not been a target of terrorism.

well, who´s safe anyway? if it was for that or other documentaries nobody would go anywhere. they even attacked the number 1 country of the world on its major city. so below that everyone is potentially a target. we had two bombs here and why? we didn´t do anything spectacular against them. they´re terrorists. they´re unpredictable by nature. that´s why i still can´t understand why americans keep worrying about the planes. forget about them! they already used them. start wondering what they´ll do next. that´s the hardest part because you just don´t know. it could be anything, anywhere.

15 Jan 2004, 08:38

Its not that planes will crash into the Superbowl or something. Planes carry terrorists into the country which appears tobe the reasoning behind harassing people flying to the US. Once inside the US, the terrorist turn on the tv and find out what easy targets to hit based on the media reports of nuclear power plant guarded by 85 year old WWII vet or Hoover Dam a good place to dump poisen ect.

I do not think Al Qida gives a rats ass about Brazil. But then again, think about how your nation would change if Islamic Law took over. No more Brazilian Bikini shaves, cover up your women and get down on your knees. The part scene would evaporate accept for the anti-US protests staged before cameras.

15 Jan 2004, 08:47

Originally posted by twist After watching Terry Gilliam's documentary on Brazil I never had a desire to got there.Consider yourself lucky that Brazil has not been a target of terrorism.

Ya gotta admire the Combat Plumber though, straight onto the job, no messin about with a qoute. A fine example of a tradesman who loves his work As the US stopped Noraid now, Y'know those misguided souls whose great-great grandmother had an Irish wolfhound ,who thought they had some connection to the cause, who gave freely to terrorists, whose actions made livin in the UK very difficult for Irish Families ? Those people who think John Waynes ' The Quiet Man ' is real, my family came over from the south in the sixties, my wifes family from the north and by the early seventies both families had experienced the ' all paddies are terrorists argument ' at first hand, not via some remote rhetoric. Sorry about the rant, I'll go and read a bit of Noam Chomsky, an American with some sense of perspective

15 Jan 2004, 09:28

Yes it sucks. I hope they eliminate it. But it is not like Al Qida is going to book a flight to LA with Syrian Airways or Pakistani Express, or are they?????

15 Jan 2004, 13:58

Originally posted by Garymac > Originally posted by twist> After watching Terry Gilliam's documentary on Brazil I never had a desire to got there.> > Consider yourself lucky that Brazil has not been a target of terrorism.

Ya gotta admire the Combat Plumber though, straight onto the job, no messin about with a qoute. A fine example of a tradesman who loves his work As the US stopped Noraid now, Y'know those misguided souls whose great-great grandmother had an Irish wolfhound ,who thought they had some connection to the cause, who gave freely to terrorists, whose actions made livin in the UK very difficult for Irish Families ? Those people who think John Waynes ' The Quiet Man ' is real, my family came over from the south in the sixties, my wifes family from the north and by the early seventies both families had experienced the ' all paddies are terrorists argument ' at first hand, not via some remote rhetoric. Sorry about the rant, I'll go and read a bit of Noam Chomsky, an American with some sense of perspective

So the Brits argued that all paddies are terrorists? Given British policies and actions against the Irish civilian population, what would that make all Brits?

Between the methods of Gandhi and those of the IRA, I'll take Gandhi. But when they were calling "all paddies" terrorists, did these same sanctimonious Brits ever stop to wonder why there are 38 million Americans of Irish descent, or why there is such strong support from America for kicking the Brits the fuck out of Ireland?

15 Jan 2004, 14:48

Originally posted by bLuE oRdEr > Originally posted by Garymac> > > > So the Brits argued that all paddies are terrorists? Given British policies and actions against the Irish civilian population, what would that make all Brits?> > > > Between the methods of Gandhi and those of the IRA, I'll take Gandhi. But when they were calling "all paddies" terrorists, did these same sanctimonious Brits ever stop to wonder why there are 38 million Americans of Irish descent, or why there is such strong support from America for kicking the Brits the fuck out of Ireland?>

Like I said my family came over from the south of Ireland in the Sixties , thats the 1960's, they made England their home, specificaly Manchester and Liverpool,they never realy thought about the six counties that much,employment was simply easier to find ' over the water'. Yet by the seventies, simply having an Irish accent was enough to put a fella under suspicion. And as you point out 38 million is a hell of a figure ,but that was the US, fortunately for members of my family and others, Fortress America was a long way off and the Irish had an acceptable religion, my point is this, in England/UK there was a kneejerk reaction, it was wrong but it happened,now what is happening at US borders is that a kneejerk reaction ? And God help you if you've got 38 million reactionaries who want to fund their cause Also the reality of being a Brit of Irish decent is this, if you put money into any of the para-military parties ,you stand a pretty good chance of payin for the bullet or bomb that blows up the kid from your local school who according to his Mum ' always wanted to be a soldier when he grew up', the kid whose Brother you went to school with, that kinda thing, the kinda thing 38 million descendants would not have to do 'cos the Atlantic is pretty wide