I am sick and tired of people talking about the Cure, lets face it they were SHIT, are SHIT and always will be SHIT.
Shut up Robert and Comb yer hair - TWAT
I feel better after that :D
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I am sick and tired of people talking about the Cure, lets face it they were SHIT, are SHIT and always will be SHIT.
Shut up Robert and Comb yer hair - TWAT
I feel better after that :D
To be on topic: The **** made a few great tracks,its just a shame they all ripped off New Order.
Originally posted by Digital Mike Binoche I am sick and tired of people talking about the Cure, lets face it they were SHIT, are SHIT and always will be SHIT.Shut up Robert and Comb yer hair - TWATI feel better after that :D
their skills playing live WAY outshine New Order and their boxset was loads better. The fucked up thing is, moaners like you constantly shit yer britches over the Cure but fail to acknowledge the serious shortcomings of New Order's playing ability. Personally, i'm sick to death of you complaining about every single thing that isn't in your highly esteemed bootleg collection. If i had a room full of New Order live cassettes, i'd wonder what the fuck i did with my life/time to accumulate such a mountain of WORTHLESS SHIT. Until you stop badmouthing every single release as "fleecing the fans" and making yourself seem more important because you have recordings of New Order RUINING MANY MANY SETS with their SUB-PAR playing abilities, you've got nothing to say. The Cure have written many great songs and at least when you hear a Cure Bootleg, you're ears don't end up hurting like 99% of the time on New Order boots. Sure Robert Smith was a pansy who wore lipstick and whined a lot but he never wrote lyrics as trite and pathetically childish as Bernard Sumner. I love New Order above all else musically but you've got to get over your hatred for mentions of the Cure. I am sick of you (and others) talking about your prized collection of worthless newOrder bootlegs but i don't start threads telling you to shut-up. The Cure will forever be more popular worldwide, better live musicians and Robert Smith will be remembered as a better lyricist than Bernard. All the while, you sit with a worthless pile of newOrder bootlegs trying to find someone who also has a roomful of GARBAGE to talk about how great they (NewOrder) were live. Get a grip Mike. If you don't like what you read about the Cure, STOP READING or simply FUCK OFF. It's an easy choice.
I Feel Better After That (INSERT RIDICULOUS SMILIE HERE)
Originally posted by Digital Mike Binoche I was doing Juliette last night and then I woke up :\ohwell:
dont cry, boy :)
Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid > Originally posted by Digital Mike Binoche> I am sick and tired of people talking about the Cure, lets face it they were SHIT, are SHIT and always will be SHIT.> > Shut up Robert and Comb yer hair - TWAT> > I feel better after that :D
their skills playing live WAY outshine New Order and their boxset was loads better. The fucked up thing is, moaners like you constantly shit yer britches over the Cure but fail to acknowledge the serious shortcomings of New Order's playing ability. Personally, i'm sick to death of you complaining about every single thing that isn't in your highly esteemed bootleg collection. If i had a room full of New Order live cassettes, i'd wonder what the fuck i did with my life/time to accumulate such a mountain of WORTHLESS SHIT. Until you stop badmouthing every single release as "fleecing the fans" and making yourself seem more important because you have recordings of New Order RUINING MANY MANY SETS with their SUB-PAR playing abilities, you've got nothing to say. The Cure have written many great songs and at least when you hear a Cure Bootleg, you're ears don't end up hurting like 99% of the time on New Order boots. Sure Robert Smith was a pansy who wore lipstick and whined a lot but he never wrote lyrics as trite and pathetically childish as Bernard Sumner. I love New Order above all else musically but you've got to get over your hatred for mentions of the Cure. I am sick of you (and others) talking about your prized collection of worthless newOrder bootlegs but i don't start threads telling you to shut-up. The Cure will forever be more popular worldwide, better live musicians and Robert Smith will be remembered as a better lyricist than Bernard. All the while, you sit with a worthless pile of newOrder bootlegs trying to find someone who also has a roomful of GARBAGE to talk about how great they (NewOrder) were live. Get a grip Mike. If you don't like what you read about the Cure, STOP READING or simply FUCK OFF. It's an easy choice.
I Feel Better After That (INSERT RIDICULOUS SMILIE HERE)
God...that about sums it up! I totally agree with you, Brian, even your typically abrasive tone.
I think this whole debate is a bit silly, even though it's fun. :D
The Cure are a great band, imo. I like them a lot (The Staring at The Sea compilation is probably the best collection by any artists). Of course, this site is "New Order Online, so...I love both bands, and my slagging on Bob or Barn comes from the fact that I'm a true fan, I know they're better than Mixed Up or "World in Motion".
Bob is fat, he's old, he looks ridiculous with lipstick on. It would be fair to compare him to Liz Taylor back when she had hair, in terms of the way he looks now. But I still like the Cure.
There, I said it...watch me get banned now ![]()
Originally posted by Spotnick Brian, what did you eat for breakfast?
Oatmeal, perfectly sweetened with some Cinammon and Vanilla Sugar. I'm not even a big fan of the Cure. I have Seventeen Seconds, Pornography, Standing on A Beach and the Cassette for Faith/Carnage Visors...none of which i've listened to in ages but that constant moaning sound coming from Digital Gripe finally got on my nerves enough to lash out. First the In Sessions disc was a rip-off of fans (like every other commercially released product according to Mike) and now he's bringing up the Cure in a new topic despite being sick of hearing about the Cure.
I propose a new forum. Bootleg Obsessives Only. Ground rules are: Nobody mentions the Cure, Everyone must kiss the asses of the NOOLers with the biggest Boot collection (and no Jeff, i'm not talking shit kickers), Discussions about the quality of performance from New Order shall not be mentioned (that would detract from the I have It, You Want It discussions), Detailed notes on tape hiss, Tape type (Bias, 90/60min etc) and garbled comments from Hooky shall take priority over all else and finally, All officially release New Order material shall be slated as "not as pure as the live sets from the same era" or "fleecing the fans". Members sign up below. Please submit your Speadsheat Catalogue of bootlegs for consideration to JULIOMURRO@JOYDIVISIONISBETTERTHANNEWORDER.COM.
Thank you.
Mike, if yer a nice guy, ya really ought to watch out, cuz you do end up coming off as a bit of a twat. That said, both bands are good, even though I like New Order (a lot) better, and to get blinded by bands' attitudes rather than their music is a bit daft, wouldn't you say? And that Bob Smith's a nancy boy... Hasn't he been married to the same lass for 20,000 light years? And what are the odds he, of all people, shag that bird Juliette? And what are the odds you do that?
I don't feel anything no more - this state of grace is consuming me.
hey...Brian...leave my shoes out of this!!!
and yes, Brian does speak his mind...and that may rub some of you the wrong way...but he is indeed a wonderful fella...anyone that would let Shuglet stay with them for a week is either insane or wonderful, you be the judge!!!
but besides offering Don and Shugz a place to stay, he also figured out all the places that our rag tag band of misfits would meet up...eat, drink and be merry...
but I do believe Brian brings up some valid points as well...why do some of us feel the need to slag a band that quite a few of our memebers do like...I'm not a huge fan of the Cure...but I'm not going to take every chance to completely slag them...I will take a dig at Fat Bob every now and then...
ahhh...screw it...I've grown bored of typing anymore...
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I propose a new forum. Bootleg Obsessives Only.
Heh, I find that far more refreshing that the 1000th Cure vs. New Order slugfest...yawn...
--Sam
Biznotic
This is a New Order websitye not a daft haircut website.
Who cares who is better at playing live, I never knew it was a competition.
As for live, New Order ( used to ), generate agression, tension and sheer pissed up fury at their shows. I wonder have you ever seen New Order ?
Originally posted by Digital Mike Binoche BiznoticThis is a New Order websitye not a daft haircut website.Who cares who is better at playing live, I never knew it was a competition.As for live, New Order ( used to ), generate agression, tension and sheer pissed up fury at their shows. I wonder have you ever seen New Order ?
True enough Mike, daft haircuts are not a topic you are big on, 'cept to announce you were havin a Barney a while back.... Just as well it aint a bad haircut site too, we'd have missed your thoughts on, Steve Hillage Kylies lingerie Breakfast Happy Mondays Hangover Cures Kraftwek System 7 Binoche Chinese or Indian Thunderbirds and Bacon Sandwiches
And thats only 4 pages of a DMB forum search, so no it aint a bad haircut site .....and thank fuck for that, perhaps when they make you a moderator, some Draconian steps may be taken and implemented by yourself, till then I hope to read anything I feel like reading and switch to somethin else when I aint into it, my choice innit ?
Originally posted by bLuE oRdEr So I take it A Flock of Seagulls is right out, then? ;)
Hell no, they get a free pass, ego and self importance , a common enough currency 'round here surely ?
In all fairness Mike, it is a New Order website but this is the off topic forum, meaning people can talk about whoever or whatever they want. That includes the Cure, Morrissey, Oasis, Brazilian Postmen, Football and Bacon Sandwiches.
Originally posted by bLuE oRdEr So I take it A Flock of Seagulls is right out, then? ;)
Ha ha ha ha ha. Thank god someone still has a sense of humour on here eh boys?
i am totally behind mike...hes a top bloke.
the cure are totally wank and robert smith looks like he smells.
i know its not your fault but if some of you guys from over the water had experienced new order live 84-88..you would appreciate what mikes talking about.
Originally posted by Uncle Liam In all fairness Mike, it is a New Order website but this is the off topic forum, meaning people can talk about whoever or whatever they want. That includes the Cure, Morrissey, Oasis, Brazilian Postmen, Football and Bacon Sandwiches.
Hey, they are some good topics!...
The Cure are pretty good. Morrisseys new single is rubbish. Oasis havent the ability to modify & change their sound. My wifes family are Brazillian, but I dont think any of them are postmen. Im gonna be in my local newspaper this Thursday cos I got a blue mohican in support of my football team. Aaaand, I love bacon sandwiches, if the bacon isnt too crispy & overcooked.
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Hey, they are some good topics!...
The Cure are pretty good. Morrissey`s new single is rubbish.
Mozzer's new single is great. get with it........
Originally posted by Doggy
Mozzer's new single is great. get with it........
Anything that man could put out is CRAAAAAAP.
Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid > Originally posted by Digital Mike Binoche> I am sick and tired of people talking about the Cure, lets face it they were SHIT, are SHIT and always will be SHIT.> > Shut up Robert and Comb yer hair - TWAT> > I feel better after that :D
their skills playing live WAY outshine New Order and their boxset was loads better. The fucked up thing is, moaners like you constantly shit yer britches over the Cure but fail to acknowledge the serious shortcomings of New Order's playing ability. Personally, i'm sick to death of you complaining about every single thing that isn't in your highly esteemed bootleg collection. If i had a room full of New Order live cassettes, i'd wonder what the fuck i did with my life/time to accumulate such a mountain of WORTHLESS SHIT. Until you stop badmouthing every single release as "fleecing the fans" and making yourself seem more important because you have recordings of New Order RUINING MANY MANY SETS with their SUB-PAR playing abilities, you've got nothing to say. The Cure have written many great songs and at least when you hear a Cure Bootleg, you're ears don't end up hurting like 99% of the time on New Order boots. Sure Robert Smith was a pansy who wore lipstick and whined a lot but he never wrote lyrics as trite and pathetically childish as Bernard Sumner. I love New Order above all else musically but you've got to get over your hatred for mentions of the Cure. I am sick of you (and others) talking about your prized collection of worthless newOrder bootlegs but i don't start threads telling you to shut-up. The Cure will forever be more popular worldwide, better live musicians and Robert Smith will be remembered as a better lyricist than Bernard. All the while, you sit with a worthless pile of newOrder bootlegs trying to find someone who also has a roomful of GARBAGE to talk about how great they (NewOrder) were live. Get a grip Mike. If you don't like what you read about the Cure, STOP READING or simply FUCK OFF. It's an easy choice.
I Feel Better After That (INSERT RIDICULOUS SMILIE HERE)
:D
Originally posted by James Stephen Barnes > Originally posted by Uncle Liam> In all fairness Mike, it is a New Order website but this is the off topic forum, meaning people can talk about whoever or whatever they want. That includes the Cure, Morrissey, Oasis, Brazilian Postmen, Football and Bacon Sandwiches.
Hey, they are some good topics!...
My wifes family are Brazillian, but I dont think any of them are postmen.
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Best thread I've read in fookin ages![]()
Having had the (mis)pleasure of meeting both Brian and Mike - I can say both of them are as daft as a brush:D I love differences of opinion, and usually I am always up for stoking the flames, but this thread doesnae need it.
I always slag The Cure as well, even though I love Standing On a Beach and Mixed Up. Goths deserve everything they get, same with them alternative wankers Depish![]()
Mozzer's new song is class though, best thing he's done since the November Spawned a Monster era. Cannae wait to go see the miserable cunt on the 22nd![]()
Originally posted by His Holiness, The Pope > Originally posted by Doggy> > > Mozzer's new single is great. get with it........
Anything that man could put out is CRAAAAAAP.
BLOW IT OUT YOUR ASS THEN!!! :finger:
Originally posted by Uncle Liam > Originally posted by Michael Chandler> Wow. You are a Moron.
Who? maybe you
Please lets not have a poll on wheather the latest Morrissy or Cure single is better. :D
I have always hated Morrissy, with his whyning singing. I also hated him in the past because believe it or not in the olden days before we all knew better all the girls (well the ones I liked anyway) loved him.
The Cure I don't much hate I even own one of their CDs and saw the live once (boring). But come on I'm sure there is an appropriate site on the net for Cure worship. Well I haven't looked.
the new Cure single is better than the new Morrisey one![]()
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mind u i havnt heard the new mozza single yet the Cure made a mess of there performance
on Jay Leno reminded me of NO
oh anyone heard the new Fall single while were at it
THE CURE IS BETTER THAN NEW ORDER !!!!
As a matter of fact wr plan on renaming this site thecureonline.com and making great competition to Chain of Flowers.... that is, until, of course, David Sultan becomes a Simon Gallup guru.
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Originally posted by Digital Mike Binoche I am sick and tired of people talking about the Cure, lets face it they were SHIT, are SHIT and always will be SHIT.Shut up Robert and Comb yer hair - TWATI feel better after that :D
Yep I agree 100 %. Though I like the Cure of 1978-1980 ear. But that's not the Cure everybody loves for :) So that's an excuse. ![]()
a fan sent this to cof:
"Since there has been so much said about the Coachella show I'm not going to write a full review, but there was something I wanted to mention. I was at the very front of the stage for most of the day on Sunday waiting to see The Cure. It was one of the hottest experiences of my life and I grew up in the Mojave Desert. Water was being sold for $2 a bottle and once you were at the front you had no chance of getting out to get it anyway. During one of the hottest parts of the day a security guard walked along passing out free bottles of water to the people at the front of the barricade. He said that it was courtesy of the band called The Cure. They wanted to make sure their fans had plenty of water. I thought that was a really nice gesture. Not many bands would be concerned with matters like that when they are relaxing back stage. Thank you to them."
talk shit all the shit you want about the cure, but this is very cool of them and i have no reason to believe this is a fake story. i cant picture ppl making this up.
I don't doubt the Cure are a good live band (they've in immense back catalogue to plunder and after 40-odd line-up changes in the past 25 years you'd think they'd be finely tuned by now?).
But then, I don't doubt that Pink Floyd and U2, by the sheer enormity and professionalism of their shows, would be deemed 'better' in most people's eyes. Or that Busted and Atomic Kitten fans think they're the greatest live bands ever as well.
However, as a long-standing New Order fan, I just don't see the attraction of the Cure. Nothing against the band whatsoever, but I simply don't see any common ground between them and New Order (yep, the Cure did "Inbetween Days" and Depeche did "Enjoy the Silence" but Kylie also did "Can't Get Blue Monday out of my Head" and I don't consider her and New Order in the same genre).
To slag New Order 'live' when most people here have extremely limited exposure to said band in the live arena does seem rather churlish though. And to slag them on a New Order website too? Tsk!
Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapezoid > Originally posted by Spotnick> Brian, what did you eat for breakfast?
I propose a new forum. Bootleg Obsessives Only. Ground rules are: Nobody mentions the Cure, Everyone must kiss the asses of the NOOLers with the biggest Boot collection (and no Jeff, i'm not talking shit kickers), Discussions about the quality of performance from New Order shall not be mentioned (that would detract from the I have It, You Want It discussions), Detailed notes on tape hiss, Tape type (Bias, 90/60min etc) and garbled comments from Hooky shall take priority over all else and finally, All officially release New Order material shall be slated as "not as pure as the live sets from the same era" or "fleecing the fans". Members sign up below. Please submit your Speadsheat Catalogue of bootlegs for consideration to JULIOMURRO@JOYDIVISIONISBETTERTHANNEWORDER.COM.
Thank you.
We've already got that Brian, and only Sam posts in there ! Mike has managed to avoid that one so far.....