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obvious ain't it?

Not into drugs at all. Just a big fookin' waste on any and every level.

Comrade Shampanyov wrote: Not into drugs at all. Just a big fookin' waste on any and every level.

tea, coffee, chocolate, baccy? or just the ones that are ilegal?

EDIT: sorry didn;t mean to be QUITE so blunt, was actually distracted and trying to finish post.

Fair play to ya...we'll see who lives longer :D

NObabe wrote: obvious ain't it?

I think you are to weed, what Obelix is to magic potion

Steve Campbell wrote:

Comrade Shampanyov wrote: Not into drugs at all. Just a big fookin' waste on any and every level.

tea, coffee, chocolate, baccy? or just the ones that are ilegal?

Well, actually, I've just given up caffeine and sugar, so that would rule out most tea, most coffee, and most chocolate. Not much interested in drink these days. Never got into baccy. But the ones I consider the biggest fookin' waste are the illegals. Life's too short for me to spend it zoned out, ruining my mind and my health. Hasn't always been my position, but I'm just happier with all of my faculties and my health intact.

Steve Campbell wrote: Fair play to ya...we'll see who lives longer :D

That one's always a crap shoot, innit?

Comrade Shampanyov wrote: Not into drugs at all. Just a big fookin' waste on any and every level.

Your entitled to your opinion officer It can really increase one's perception of all manner of wonderful things from music,literature,food etc,etc...I kind of like that:D Don't you?

Comrade Shampanyov wrote:

Steve Campbell wrote:

Comrade Shampanyov wrote: Not into drugs at all. Just a big fookin' waste on any and every level.

tea, coffee, chocolate, baccy? or just the ones that are ilegal?

Well, actually, I've just given up caffeine and sugar, so that would rule out most tea, most coffee, and most chocolate. Not much interested in drink these days. Never got into baccy. But the ones I consider the biggest fookin' waste are the illegals. Life's too short for me to spend it zoned out, ruining my mind and my health. Hasn't always been my position, but I'm just happier with all of my faculties and my health intact.

RIGHT now i have not a lot else to do sadly. Tho when i have stuff to do, I don't bother smokin.

Boatraceface wrote:

Comrade Shampanyov wrote: Not into drugs at all. Just a big fookin' waste on any and every level.

Your entitled to your opinion officer It can really increase one's perception of all manner of wonderful things from music,literature,food etc,etc...I kind of like that:D Don't you?

I went round to a teacher's ouse with a mate years ago (his teacher, not mine). She gave us some Thai stick (pot laced with opium). After that, while he was talking with his former teacher, I just laid back into her beanbag chair and listened to The Who. Heard them in ways I never heard them before. Thai stick may have been the best drug I've ever come across. I still prefer having my faculties intact these days. It's an old age thing.

Comrade Shampanyov wrote: Life's too short for me to spend it zoned out, ruining my mind and my health. Hasn't always been my position, but I'm just happier with all of my faculties and my health intact.

You remind me of Nancy Reagan.

Ah,I see...Moderation is the key with everything..Though I would'nt take kindly to being spiked with opium...Then again ,I dare say I would

There's a point actually.....when you're 79,shiting in a bag and pissing yer trousers 14 times a day....who the fuck wants their mental function intact....I'm totally hoping that by that stage I think I'm Napolean....or maybe Hooky :D

I overdid it on the funny stuff at a rave type thing in Kent last year.Had a BAD, BAD few hours.Paranoid was an understatement.Its OK in moderation ,yes.

Johnny wrote: I overdid it on the funny stuff at a rave type thing in Kent last year.Had a BAD, BAD few hours.Paranoid was an understatement.Its OK in moderation ,yes.

Yeah, having gone face to face what 200 mushrooms can do to you if the world inspires them to (my bro shows up, having had a fight with his psychotic spide mate, covered in blood and on the run from our own house where the spide was rampaging, not good on any day,on200 of the fattest stickiest shrooms I ever seen...VERY V E R Y bad.), I must agree it's an experience i'd only wish on few really deserving people. Never enjoyed anything of that nature afterwards, like a plane crash survivor who'll never fly again (apt metaphor really). bloody annoying, I had some great times on fungus in my youth. they're the same class as fucking heroine now or something aren;t they?

tried acid ONCE. Never again

Spent the whole night laughing at a lamp shade. It was telling me jokes...honest.

oh, and the obligatory 4 years of disco biscuits in the Hac on a Sat night :jump2:

Done LSD 4 times.Three times were great but the fourth time was BAD.Not touched it since.

I did acid once. Thought I was a hairdresser, and managed to attack my hair with a pair of nail scissors and a biscuit tin base as a mirror. Went down the union absolutely fucked and looking like rats had got me, and was persuaded to get it shaved off the next day. Worst bit was getting on the bus - it was like a tardis, couldn't understand how the door was so small yet there was so much room inside - completely gooped me brain!

Johnny wrote: Done LSD 4 times.Three times were great but the fourth time was BAD.Not touched it since.

i think that bad one is the universe's way of saying you've had as much acid/shrooms as you need for now.

but anyway, enough talk of powerful scarey things,we're meant to be talking about nice gentle weed, the fatal dose of which is a quarter ton bail dropped on your head.

oldmonkey wrote: I did acid once. Thought I was a hairdresser, and managed to attack my hair with a pair of nail scissors and a biscuit tin base as a mirror. Went down the union absolutely fucked and looking like rats had got me, and was persuaded to get it shaved off the next day. Worst bit was getting on the bus - it was like a tardis, couldn't understand how the door was so small yet there was so much room inside - completely gooped me brain!

I shouldnt laugh...but that is fookin funny!

Actually Damon Albarn summed up drugs perfectly for me (amazing, but true)

"Some people can do drugs, some cant, fortunately I cant"

If there was no down side I'd be on em all the time.

I am writing this to you all from a completely drunk viewpoint

never really got into the stuff. it just makes me tired. the last time was over a year ago. i'd rather be pissed.

Barney Army wrote: tried acid ONCE. Never again

Spent the whole night laughing at a lamp shade. It was telling me jokes...honest.

oh, and the obligatory 4 years of disco biscuits in the Hac on a Sat night :jump2:

oldmonkey wrote: I did acid once. Thought I was a hairdresser, and managed to attack my hair with a pair of nail scissors and a biscuit tin base as a mirror. Went down the union absolutely fucked and looking like rats had got me, and was persuaded to get it shaved off the next day. Worst bit was getting on the bus - it was like a tardis, couldn't understand how the door was so small yet there was so much room inside - completely gooped me brain!

I can get stoned with the best of them

I just don't get the time

A lad who i know was on that awful GBH stuff with his girlfriend. He ended up pulling all her teeth out with pliers... at her request! They ended up on Trevor McDonalds Tonight programme! I went to a party once and 3 lads on it were crawling around on all fours, howling at the ceiling. Never fancied it myself, funnily enough.

errrr. can't say...

lets just say i'll be underneath the Kop Grandstand at half-time tomorrow lunchtime, trying to keep out of sight of the plod.

Missy Jem wrote: A lad who i know was on that awful GBH stuff with his girlfriend. He ended up pulling all her teeth out with pliers... at her request! They ended up on Trevor McDonalds Tonight programme! I went to a party once and 3 lads on it were crawling around on all fours, howling at the ceiling. Never fancied it myself, funnily enough.

now why not??? hhhmmmmmm. all fours...

sounds like a top bloke. maybe he's graduated to crystal meth by now.

Cheeky!

He is actually a really nice bloke, he's calmed down a lot now. Just as well really eh! Where do you go from being an illegal dentist!

don't do it much these days but once in awhile. I don't like to be around people while I'm high. I much prefer to throw on some music and clean the house. Usually Stereolab.

I think everyone knows a burnout or two. They're nature's reminder that all things are relative. Having said that, I've met a lot more people reuined by booze that all the other shit put together. Odd isn't it that the htread constantly wanders off into nastier things, it's like weed doesn;t even come up on Radar these days.

i hate to put a downer on this, but it can have serious long term mental health implications, such as schizophrenia.

Ronald Kirsch wrote: i hate to put a downer on this, but it can have serious long term mental health implications, such as schizophrenia.

try tellin that to John Kershaw.

oohh shit that's me.

no its not.

yes it is

Ronald Kirsch wrote: i hate to put a downer on this, but it can have serious long term mental health implications, such as schizophrenia.

Suits me. better than shiting your liver out.

And at least it's not toxic like alcohol.

No such thing as a free ride, all drugs have their price, from coca cola to cocaine. The legal ones are by far the worst in terms of physical toxicity.

And no-one's ever stabbed anyone or beaten thei wife as a result of smoking a joint :)

john kershaw wrote:

Ronald Kirsch wrote: i hate to put a downer on this, but it can have serious long term mental health implications, such as schizophrenia.

try tellin that to John Kershaw.

oohh shit that's me.

no its not.

yes it is

well i was a bit younger once too. i think i got through it ok. but i know people including some friends whose personalty changed and not for better. as i said before weed never did much for me except make me tired, so i never really bothered that much with it.

Ronald Kirsch wrote: well i was a bit younger once too. i think i got through it reasonably unscathed. but i know people including some friends whose personalty changed and not for better. as i said before weed never did much for me except make me tired, so i never really bothered that much with it.

yeah but Ronnie, I've lived in sandy Perth mate. and i know first hand how strong your weed is. its better than amsterdam's. and mostly grown with sun and water which is good. biggest problem i ever had with it was overeating and staring into the fridge for 10 minutes.

but some of the skunk here has bad chemicals in to make it stronger, and that does fuck you up. and its all grown indoors or with hydroponics.

Oz has the best and most natural weed goin. Er...is it still $25 a bag Ron, or has it gone up now.

there was a big scare story round here about 10 years ago, about hoods puting Zinc and other heavy metals in the soapbar hash they're so found of, so it would weigh more. the thing was that amounts of zinc and aluminium in your brain can make you permenatly mental.

Never had any of it tho....I think :)

Hell my Doctor has me on pills (which are therefor not only legal, but "good for you") which list among their side effects....liver failure and if mixed with ANY alcohol..."accute psychosis". And he WANTS to put me on some that list "permenant mental health disorders, chronic depression and suicde" as the sideys

Joy.

Actually, I LOVE the accute psychosis thing....In the pub I can actually act out that scene from Babylon5 where Londo tried to get Lenneir to drink, and Lenneir explains that mimbari fly in to violent homocidal rages at the slightest contact with the stuff :) "have a drink" "can't" "fucking ponce" "can't, pills" "bah, they just tell you that" (explanation) "coke or redbull steve?"

john kershaw wrote:

Ronald Kirsch wrote: well i was a bit younger once too. i think i got through it reasonably unscathed. but i know people including some friends whose personalty changed and not for better. as i said before weed never did much for me except make me tired, so i never really bothered that much with it.

yeah but Ronnie, I've lived in sandy Perth mate. and i know first hand how strong your weed is. its better than amsterdam's. and mostly grown with sun and water which is good. biggest problem i ever had with it was overeating and staring into the fridge for 10 minutes.

but some of the skunk here has bad chemicals in to make it stronger, and that does fuck you up. and its all grown indoors or with hydroponics.

Oz has the best and most natural weed goin. Er...is it still $25 a bag Ron, or has it gone up now.

Heard about the poisoned skunk (super skunk or something?) don't fancy that, it sort of defeats the point of smoking a natrual herb really.

I only just clicked about Ron's location.

Ron, Man, I been smoking for years, and I have no doubt that 2 draws of what grows round your way, and I'd be a nought but a greasey spot on the deck.

john kershaw wrote:

Ronald Kirsch wrote: well i was a bit younger once too. i think i got through it reasonably unscathed. but i know people including some friends whose personalty changed and not for better. as i said before weed never did much for me except make me tired, so i never really bothered that much with it.

yeah but Ronnie, I've lived in sandy Perth mate. and i know first hand how strong your weed is. its better than amsterdam's. and mostly grown with sun and water which is good. biggest problem i ever had with it was overeating and staring into the fridge for 10 minutes.

but some of the skunk here has bad chemicals in to make it stronger, and that does fuck you up. and its all grown indoors or with hydroponics.

Oz has the best and most natural weed goin. Er...is it still $25 a bag Ron, or has it gone up now.

actually i have no idea of the going price, as its been quite a while.

NO cos i don't even smoke.Seems that some of us are just born MAD and CRAZY.My ma said i should go out and get LOW.Trouble is not EVERYBODY likes DAVE BOWIE. Rocket Played Fuckall:D

john kershaw wrote:

Ronald Kirsch wrote: well i was a bit younger once too. i think i got through it reasonably unscathed. but i know people including some friends whose personalty changed and not for better. as i said before weed never did much for me except make me tired, so i never really bothered that much with it.

yeah but Ronnie, I've lived in sandy Perth mate. and i know first hand how strong your weed is. its better than amsterdam's. and mostly grown with sun and water which is good. biggest problem i ever had with it was overeating and staring into the fridge for 10 minutes.

but some of the skunk here has bad chemicals in to make it stronger, and that does fuck you up. and its all grown indoors or with hydroponics.

Oz has the best and most natural weed goin. Er...is it still $25 a bag Ron, or has it gone up now.

I take it you've not tried Albanian shit yet. Fookin mad I tell ya!

between 17-27 i used to smoke every night, but now it's only on occasion (i.e. whenever it's around).

No 'illicit' drugs for me. Actually, I don't even drink. Not much fun, am I? I think I've gotten too into fitness and that's a whole other problem. Caffeine, however, is my drug of choice. I am trying to curb it though.

Heather

I was really hoping I would find a retard to fight with on this thread, but I can't :(

I need some twat who smokes 50 a day, drinks a bottle of jack for breakfast, mainlines coffee and shoots hippies cos they do drugs :)

Steve Campbell wrote: I was really hoping I would find a retard to fight with on this thread, but I can't :(

I need some twat who smokes 50 a day, drinks a bottle of jack for breakfast, mainlines coffee and shoots hippies cos they do drugs :)

Ere mate, did you shee which way those hippshy Junkshie scum wentsh.Buuurp!!..

The arrival of little creatures like your little throttle-ee there, tends to put the crappers on smoking a bit. firstly because it's always a good idea to let the brain form before deforming it (and passive toking's a bitch), and also because you don't want yer kid saying "my mummy puts chocolate in her rollies" or "my mummy puts mint[1] in her joints so they taste nicer". Whay did i use the female article when you are clearly a bloke....both of the above happened to mates of mine, who thankfully in both cases knew the teacher outside the professional relationship or it could have been nasty.

[1] I don;t think it was mint, can't think what it was, but it's something that old hippies roll with their weed.

used to drink a bit-I was a nasty son of a bitch when drunk-never agreed with me.

Had lots of people in the extended family try everything from alcohol to acid-never did them any good-so I avoided most of it

I'll toke with friends as a social thing. Most of my friends are hippies. My non-Hippie friends are with me on Scouting events so we smoke cigars instead and talk about the drugs we used to do. I only smoke alone if I am in pain--ear ache, muscle pain ect. I gave up ibuprofen and Alleve because they kill your kidneys. Sticking with aspirin. But if I really need to kill pain quickly like when an ear infection is about to burst an ear drum, nothing beats a bowl of cannabis.

Gave up lsd years ago. But damnit if a line of Charlie appeared infront of my nose....

And no-one's ever stabbed anyone or beaten thei wife as a result of smoking a joint

Yeah but you should see how I murder a bag of cookie dough, a bag of chips and any left over pizza after a left handed cigarrette. Just saying....

you really got some edgy questions!!!

But hey....if you got to do drugs...a spliff always helps!!

it's the least dangerous one...but i'm getting kind of old for this...and time is missing too...

Steve Campbell wrote: The arrival of little creatures like your little throttle-ee there, tends to put the crappers on smoking a bit. firstly because it's always a good idea to let the brain form before deforming it (and passive toking's a bitch), and also because you don't want yer kid saying "my mummy puts chocolate in her rollies" or "my mummy puts mint[1] in her joints so they taste nicer". Whay did i use the female article when you are clearly a bloke....both of the above happened to mates of mine, who thankfully in both cases knew the teacher outside the professional relationship or it could have been nasty.

[1] I don;t think it was mint, can't think what it was, but it's something that old hippies roll with their weed.

Did the teacher do the occassional bong with the parents outside their professional relationship? So fucking what?Most parents don't teach their children to skin up, until they have earned the right.. muchless let them passive smoke it Cheek!

Non. Just not my thing, really.

BIG IN GRASS

digital mike binoche wrote: BIG IN GRASS

Steve Campbell wrote: And no-one's ever stabbed anyone or beaten thei wife as a result of smoking a joint :)

Maybe not, but I've seen people I know become completely different personality-wise while they're stoned (as I've explained in the past in similar threads). These same people are perfectly fine when they've only been drinking, BTW. I've never done drugs in my life and I've never quite understood why some people feel the need to. Why would you want to take things that have been proven time and time again to cause nothing but harm? For the record, in case anyone's wondering: yes, I do drink but not much (can't take the hangovers). And no, I'm not religious at all!

I know people like that too, they scare me too!

but would making booze ilegal make it worse, or weed legal make it better?

You seem to have the black/white thing happening based purely on local statutes.

But at least you're not religious :)