Sometimes, you wonder what the islamist think.. — Forum Archive

9 Jan 2006, 08:06

I'll post a babelfish translation of a France article, so I'm sorry if it sucks:

A fatwa (religious opinion) prohibiting to the husbands to completely strip itself when they make love caused a controversy among the Egyptian doctors of the charia, the Islamic law.

"To be very naked during the sex act invalidates the marriage" sliced in a fatwa the sheik Rashar Hassan Khalil, ex-vice-chancellor of the faculty of the charia of the Al-Azhar university, most famous of Islam sunnite.

The chief of the committee of the Al-Azhar fatwas, Abdallah Megawer considére that the husbands can see themselves naked, but without looking at the sexual parts. It thus recommends to them to lay out a cover on their body

Of course the rest of the article is about the protestation that this "fatwa" caused..

But why in the name of god would ANYONE want that? There's nothing more beautiful in this world than a woman body and you want to HIDE it and even when you are making love? :nuts:

I'll never understand that one, I'll try, but I'll probably never understand. No wonder those guys are excited when they see a woman in shorts.

9 Jan 2006, 09:06

Oh, I dunno, there's a fair few birds I'd rather fcuk through a sheet than have to see them naked. :shrug:

9 Jan 2006, 09:57

1.youre absolutely right, it is some stupidity :nuts: 2. as we all know, more exciting for those guys is to put some TNT to eg. pubs, subways, etc. fookin unbelievable.

9 Jan 2006, 12:35

ultra-orthodox jews do it through a sheet. seems that hardcore muslims and jews have more in common than they think!

9 Jan 2006, 12:52

AgentWood wrote: ultra-orthodox jews do it through a sheet. seems that hardcore muslims and jews have more in common than they think!

Utter stupidity?

9 Jan 2006, 12:55

AgentWood wrote: ultra-orthodox jews do it through a sheet. seems that hardcore muslims and jews have more in common than they think!

I've heard of holy water, but holy sheets???

9 Jan 2006, 12:56

New order , is a music group nothing to do with politician or with religion, they lost curtis voice, but they do not lost old fans like me, cause, it's the first group that i discovered played at scene in 82,and i continue to defend the music of joy division,not the deception and everybody is free to manipulate any image around this group.

9 Jan 2006, 12:59

Inrteresting first post.

Have no idea what you're on about, but interesting choice for a first post. :shrug:

9 Jan 2006, 13:01

mourad foughali wrote: New order , is a music group nothing to do with politician or with religion, they lost curtis voice, but they do not lost old fans like me, cause, it's the first group that i discovered played at scene in 82,and i continue to defend the music of joy division,not the deception and everybody is free to manipulate any image around this group.

Welome to NewOrderOnline!

9 Jan 2006, 13:04

mourad foughali wrote: New order , is a music group nothing to do with politician or with religion, they lost curtis voice, but they do not lost old fans like me, cause, it's the first group that i discovered played at scene in 82,and i continue to defend the music of joy division,not the deception and everybody is free to manipulate any image around this group.

:bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow: :bow:

9 Jan 2006, 13:17

Are they pointing in any particular direction?

9 Jan 2006, 15:40

ChrissMari wrote:

mourad foughali wrote: New order , is a music group nothing to do with politician or with religion, they lost curtis voice, but they do not lost old fans like me, cause, it's the first group that i discovered played at scene in 82,and i continue to defend the music of joy division,not the deception and everybody is free to manipulate any image around this group.

MECCA's the other way!! You're bowing to MACCA!

9 Jan 2006, 15:49

In America you need a paper bag sometimes to get laid. In an Islamic country you ask her to keep the bhurka on.

9 Jan 2006, 15:53

1 billion muslims...Victoria's Secret is missing out on the sexy burkha trade.

9 Jan 2006, 15:59

"Sexy Burkha."

Great idea for a band name.

9 Jan 2006, 18:13

As much as we laugh about it muslims are probably appalled with our lap dancing juice bar culture. Well, that's how they react around each other. Get one alone and he'll being tossing $20s on the stage of the stripper with the biggest titties.

9 Jan 2006, 18:19

That's what the Twin Towers suicide squad was doing just before take-off. Same with bin Laden, in his youth.

9 Jan 2006, 18:25

Comrade Shampanyov wrote: That's what the Twin Towers suicide squad was doing just before take-off. Same with bin Laden, in his youth.

here we go again. all i say that people who lead such a ahm "full/empty" life sometimes seek for some more meaning in their lives. they are then become easy recruits for "idealistic" causes

9 Jan 2006, 18:32

Well, bin Laden I can understand (seeking more meaning in his life), but Atta was just plain hypocritical.

9 Jan 2006, 18:33

back to the original question. if they don't want to be fully naked during sex, then that is their business, as long as they don't insist that i go along with this.

9 Jan 2006, 18:35

Comrade Shampanyov wrote: Well, bin Laden I can understand (seeking more meaning in his life), but Atta was just plain hypocritical.

well i read up on him some while back. when he was in germany studying, he outwardly appeared to be the well adjusted student, but inwardly he became increasingly disaffected from western society, and sought out radical imans.

9 Jan 2006, 18:40

Ronald Kirsch wrote: back to the original question. if they don't want to be fully naked during sex, then that is their business, as long as they don't insist that i go along with this.

Bill Clinton wasn't fully naked during sex either. Oh wait, he said that wasn't sex, didn't he? :evil4:

9 Jan 2006, 18:41

Ronald Kirsch wrote:

Comrade Shampanyov wrote: Well, bin Laden I can understand (seeking more meaning in his life), but Atta was just plain hypocritical.

well i read up on him some while back. when he was in germany studying, he outwardly appeared to be the well adjusted student, but inwardly he became increasingly disaffected from western society, and sought out radical imans.

I meant it was hypocritical of him to murder 2000 people in the name of Allah when he spent his last few hours on Earth getting shitfaced in a bar.

9 Jan 2006, 18:47

Comrade Shampanyov wrote:

Ronald Kirsch wrote:

Comrade Shampanyov wrote: Well, bin Laden I can understand (seeking more meaning in his life), but Atta was just plain hypocritical.

well i read up on him some while back. when he was in germany studying, he outwardly appeared to be the well adjusted student, but inwardly he became increasingly disaffected from western society, and sought out radical imans.

I meant it was hypocritical of him to murder 2000 people in the name of Allah when he spent his last few hours on Earth getting shitfaced in a bar.

he was a very confused young man.

i should add before anyone has a go, that i don't condone of his actions in any way.

9 Jan 2006, 18:53

Or he was a hypocrite.

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.

   ---H.L. Mencken

9 Jan 2006, 19:01

Comrade Shampanyov wrote: Or he was a hypocrite.

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.
   ---H.L. Mencken

i think i'll stand by my analysis. right to the last he tried to live in two different worlds and failed.

9 Jan 2006, 19:12

I, on the other hand, would succeed quite admirably in both worlds. Sexy burkhas, anyone? :evil4: I can already hear the riyals pouring in...

9 Jan 2006, 22:43

twist wrote: As much as we laugh about it muslims are probably appalled with our lap dancing juice bar culture. Well, that's how they react around each other. Get one alone and he'll being tossing $20s on the stage of the stripper with the biggest titties.

Not the same thing here... we're talking about sex between a husband and a wife, that could be voided if they actually saw each others... !!!

Anyways, I'm not there to judge culture and religion....

9 Jan 2006, 22:44

mourad foughali wrote: New order , is a music group nothing to do with politician or with religion, they lost curtis voice, but they do not lost old fans like me, cause, it's the first group that i discovered played at scene in 82,and i continue to defend the music of joy division,not the deception and everybody is free to manipulate any image around this group.

You're right about that, hence why this is the OFF-TOPIC forum where people can discuss various things.

I can discuss what the catholic church did over here in the 1940 to 1960 if you want, I have no problem with it.... no religion is better than one another, that's for sure.

9 Jan 2006, 22:46

Ronald Kirsch wrote: back to the original question. if they don't want to be fully naked during sex, then that is their business, as long as they don't insist that i go along with this.

Actually, that's the thing, it's not THEIR business... it's the religious autorities that ask them to do so.

10 Jan 2006, 11:14

Kind of renders redundant "phwoarrrr... i'd love to get her between the sheets!"

More like "phwoarrrrr .... i'd like to get the sheets between her!"

Or something :scratch:

10 Jan 2006, 11:32

Spotnick wrote:

Ronald Kirsch wrote: back to the original question. if they don't want to be fully naked during sex, then that is their business, as long as they don't insist that i go along with this.

Actually, that's the thing, it's not THEIR business... it's the religious autorities that ask them to do so.

people still have a choice, at least in theory, weather or not to obey their religious leaders, or what brand of religion to follow. i don't see the religious police entering the bedroom just yet.

10 Jan 2006, 12:33

Ronald Kirsch wrote: sought out radical imans.

that was david bowie.

10 Jan 2006, 12:38

Ronald Kirsch wrote:

Spotnick wrote:

Ronald Kirsch wrote: back to the original question. if they don't want to be fully naked during sex, then that is their business, as long as they don't insist that i go along with this.

Actually, that's the thing, it's not THEIR business... it's the religious autorities that ask them to do so.

people still have a choice, at least in theory, weather or not to obey their religious leaders, or what brand of religion to follow. i don't see the religious police entering the bedroom just yet.

And how lucky we are to be able to say that!

What a shame it is that not everyone in the world shares this luxury.

10 Jan 2006, 12:46

AgentWood wrote:

Ronald Kirsch wrote: sought out radical imans.

that was david bowie.

:lol:

10 Jan 2006, 19:49

Well... Picture yourself with a girl or a boy you have been forced to marry. He/she is what you hate the most - physically... and you cannot get drunk when you have to shag her/him...

11 Jan 2006, 08:42

Jiphy wrote: Well... Picture yourself with a girl or a boy you have been forced to marry. He/she is what you hate the most - physically... and you cannot get drunk when you have to shag her/him...

picture yourself getting really drunk in vegas, only to wake up in the morning to find out you've married someone you hate the most--physically.

11 Jan 2006, 11:06

well i dunno,i mean ill admit ive shagged a few monsters in my time and if they had been clothed it would have been a bonus. one short n fat girl in particular sticks in my tortured mind,when she finally dropped her frock i thought "fuck me,ive pulled a space hopper". which ways mecca i say.

11 Jan 2006, 16:49

AgentWood wrote:

Jiphy wrote: Well... Picture yourself with a girl or a boy you have been forced to marry. He/she is what you hate the most - physically... and you cannot get drunk when you have to shag her/him...

picture yourself getting really drunk in vegas, only to wake up in the morning to find out you've married someone you hate the most--physically.

at least, you can drink more...