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Yeah - I saw them on the "Doolittle" tour in Newcastle with (I think, though I may be wrong) Wolfgang Press as support - or some other 4AD band. Francis started getting tubby then..... But they kicked ass like no other. Kim was known by her real name by this point, not Mrs John Murphy. 
Saw them on the Bossanova tour in 1990, supported by Barkmarket. Great set - opened with a behind-the-curtains "Cecilia Ann" then went through 30 songs in 90 minutes. Just fantastic :)
Originally posted by Sloppy Giuseppe Saw them on the Bossanova tour in 1990, supported by Barkmarket. Great set - opened with a behind-the-curtains "Cecilia Ann" then went through 30 songs in 90 minutes. Just fantastic :)
Yeah - caught a date on that tour too! Now, Barkmarket - there's a long lost name. They were kinda very loud hardcore weren't they? Caught half their set only so I'm not 100% familiar with them. Know next to nothing about them otherwise - do you, Sloppy?
Nothing at all I'm afraid. Thought they were shit/mildly amusing at the time, mostly because of the singer's helium affected voice every so often that seemed to be his trick. Listened to their album in the local indie shop and decided against it.
Originally posted by Hubert Mickle Yeah - I saw them on the "Doolittle" tour in Newcastle with (I think, though I may be wrong) Wolfgang Press as support - or some other 4AD band. Francis started getting tubby then..... But they kicked ass like no other. Kim was known by her real name by this point, not Mrs John Murphy.
reckon you're right with wolfgang press. did joey do a beer can guitar solo at the newcastle venue? was mental - used it as a slide, (but in the right hand i think) and banged the strings & stuff & really mutilated it.
Still on a 4AD type theme, a feature on the NME website says Throwing Muses are recording a new album - complete with Tanya Donnelly!! 
Dave - so it WAS the Wolfgangs then? Weird bunch they were too - kind of half-liked that album they had out at the time- with a Toilet on the cover!!! 
especially the sludgy dirty funk stuff, but not keen on the other half.
Yes - and Joey DID do his beer-can stunt at that gig as well - during "Vamos" if I recall it - fooking hell, it was wild!! He kept slamming the guitar against his monitors too, causing feedback to ERUPT all over the place! Aye...it was well fooking cool man!!
Kezzie - thanks for the info on Throwing Muses getting back with Tanya Donnelly - most unexpected. Me thinks the Muses were lost without Tanya playing off the intensity of Kristen anyway so that's sort of good news.
aye she did that, though thanks to the muses sans tanya i found galaxy 500 - a support set once in the bierkeller in bristol - the tour when the muses had lampshades on stage with them.
did you see kristens solo tour with the cellist supported by vic chestnut? caught it in a church in bristol (v unusual venue that bjork has since played) totally acoustic but amazing none the less.
I saw that very same Kristin Hersh tour, at the Tyne Theatre in Newcastle - the lass was drinking Newkie Brown!
It was during the time when I was into the whole Throwing Muses/Belly thing big time, and the gig totally blew me away. I've just always thought that Hersh's/Donnelly's lyrics are just amazing :)
I always thought that with Throwing Muses, Donnelly was the light side playing off Hersh's dark side: the combination of the two worked really well on those first few albums before Tanya left - after that it was a bit heavier going/more intense with just Kristin in charge, would you agree Kez?
don't know about kezzie, but I definitely do - Tanya always seemed to write the poppier tunes, though having said that the lyrical subject on the Belly albums is hardly sweetness & light is it?
but yeah, stylistically lighter when there's the two, be interesting to see what the new muses album sounds like.
Originally posted by Hubert Mickle Dave - so it WAS the Wolfgangs then? Weird bunch they were too - kind of half-liked that album they had out at the time- with a Toilet on the cover!!!
Hubes your memory is better than mine - I remember thinking how much better they had got since I'd seen them before & I remember him using the can but can't remember the actual song for the life of me.
wonder if it was the same song each time or if he changed it.
Originally posted by Hubert Mickle I always thought that with Throwing Muses, Donnelly was the light side playing off Hersh's dark side: the combination of the two worked really well on those first few albums before Tanya left - after that it was a bit heavier going/more intense with just Kristin in charge, would you agree Kez?
Yep I'd agree with that, althought I reckon I lot of it was in the delivery too. Like Dave says, under the sweetness of Donnely's voice, there's a lot of darkness there. Want to go home now and dig my old albums out! I used to listen to 'The Real Ramona' obsessively as a youngster:)
Funny you should namecheck that one Kez - I was only playing that last nite!!! The last Muses LP I got, admittedly, cos Tanya left them after that didn't she? "Not Too Soon" - what a great pop song that is! I recall Hüsker Dü's Bob Mould did some guest vocals on "Red Heaven", but I found the record a lot harsher than "Ramona" mainly cos it was after all Kristen's input only. Mind you, I was a little disappointed by Belly's "Star" album funnily enough - I expected a bit more variety in the songs, even though her lyrics are great as always...
Originally posted by Hubert Mickle Funny you should namecheck that one Kez - I was only playing that last nite!!! The last Muses LP I got, admittedly, cos Tanya left them after that didn't she? "Not Too Soon" - what a great pop song that is!
Yeah, Red Heaven could be a bit harsh in places. Still some great songs though. 'Pearl' I think, was one of my faves. As for 'Star' - must have been my most listened to album the year it came out (1993?). Right, I am going home now to listen to my whole Muses/Belly back catalogue!
Oh, and another thing - chat of the Pixies reminded me - 'Debaser' was the first song I ever fell over dancing too on the lethal floor of the Riverside ;)
Hmm...throwing muses....I believe that over here in the states, we were graced with their presence as support for the order back in 89...
i actually liked throwing muses with and without donelly. i met kristin last summer at a radio station, and she's one of the nicest people around. i've never been to any of her concerts, actually, i've never been to a concert ever!
Never been to a concert ever Snucky?
Are you sure you ain't pulling our collective leg there man?? 
Originally posted by Kezzie Yeah, Red Heaven could be a bit harsh in places. Still some great songs though. 'Pearl' I think, was one of my faves. As for 'Star' - must have been my most listened to album the year it came out (1993?). Right, I am going home now to listen to my whole Muses/Belly back catalogue!Oh, and another thing - chat of the Pixies reminded me - 'Debaser' was the first song I ever fell over dancing too on the lethal floor of the Riverside ;)
Ha! You wanna know the first song I fell over to whilst havin the time of me life at the Riverside "Indie Night" once? This'll come as a bit of a shock to you, but it was a slowie: "Song To The Siren" by This Mortal Coil!!!! How did I get to fall over?? Me mate Adam pushed me backwards (that was how pissed we all were that night!) Ahh...the memories.....the memories.... :)
I met my girlfriend at this venue you know, and we're still together now.....
Originally posted by Grigori Rasputin, the mad mystic of Petrograd Hmm...throwing muses....I believe that over here in the states, we were graced with their presence as support for the order back in 89...
Yes we were. Helluva great show!
Thanks for that snippet Major boy - but I thought you said you were never going to read the NME anymore huh?? ;)
Originally posted by Hubert Mickle Thanks for that snippet Major boy - but I thought you said you were never going to read the NME anymore huh?? ;)
Does reading the site count?
There is also a little feature / live review in this month's Q...
Originally posted by Hubert Mickle Never been to a concert ever Snucky?Are you sure you ain't pulling our collective leg there man??
i'm under 20! got no friends who like the music i like. what do you think? maybe i've been to a few like a symphony orchestra rehearsal. it was so boring, i fell asleep. but that doesn't count.
