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BEWARE DODGY EMAILS PURPORTING TO BE FROM NOOLERS

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Steve Campbell wrote:

Can I ask what version you were running, (braces himself for "red hat 5")

the computer was running on fedora (no idea which version, as my friend's dad installed it--he's a computer specialist and swore by it). it was about a year ago.

i have no idea if my comupter has only one repartition drive. :shrug: but with all the linux problems i had in the past i don't see myself bothering. half the stuff i wanted to download wasn't available for linux and the other half had downloading descriptions written in code that reminded me of my commodore 24. i thought the purpose was to make things simpler as computer programs became more advanced?

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No, it's cool like, I understand yer problem. There are some things that just dont exist in linux, tho there are usually bloody good alternatives. And yeah if you have to install by hand it can be a pain.

Oddly enough it's the sort of half way distro's that fuck up the most...things that use RPM and so on, you can end up in a terrible cycle of pain getting things to work.

I used a thing called LFS, Linux from scratch, which was literally installed by the olde school method...like how it was done (is done) on BIG IRON, bootstrapping and the heap. It took fookin ages to install because everything was compiled from scratch (I far prefer that to HUGE bloated binaries full of things my computer has no need for). because it was "pure" installation was often EASIER.

then I happened upong Gentoo which has a perfect balance. Everything is compiled from scratch, giving slender speedy binaries, but it's all under the control of a package manaer called portage. Basically, if I want something, I ask for it....and portage runs off and downloads the source for what I want plus any other bits and bobs that it needs to run.To be silly about it, if I sat at a bare text only installation and asked it to install Kmail, it would install the Xserver (the graphical bit like windows), the KDE desktop, video drivers, the lot. And it would compile and install them all in order.

I almost NEVER fucks up (in all honesty I have fewer installation failures in Linux these days than windows), mainly because as soon as it does, because everyone is singing from the same choir sheet, with the same source code and the same scripts to build it.....it gets fixed. Of course there are a few cases where somethings slips through the gaps, a browser forgets it needs a jpg library or something, butit's always sortable in no time, usually by guesswork.

Gentoo is a JOY to use, truly, I mean our house server skivvies away for months on end without a burp running it, it also fulfills my everyday desktop needs, internet, office, such games as do work (MAME in particular runs beautifully). Installing from the ground up with Gentoo is not for a beginner tho, it's a simple procedure that's well documented and walked through but it does require you to know some pretty basic facts about your own machine. For a first installation I would reccomend Mandriva (formerly Mandrake), it's attractive, very full featured and has an excellent software installation system (it also costs fuck all and comes with 3000 programs). The downside is that if the installer system doesn't know the program you want....you're off into the hell you describe.

BUT as you said, there may be things you simply cannot get. Nicos mentioned photoshop, GIMP is a fine alternative, tho I have seen people choke on it purely because the menus are in a different shape....and i can't take the high ground there cos I freak out using Logic or Sonar instead of cubase.

I dunno why I'm bother with all this really, I'm not trying to talk you into using it again. Maybe I just wanna point out that my mileage varied :D

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Steve Campbell wrote: Melly...what say you? does being a machine maiden preclude you from doing a sensible job round them?

I've had sensible jobs. :laugh: Startups needing me for marketing, working tape backup (DAT), monitoring a network under a senior admin trying to cut my teeth on it all, working in a factory building the bleedy steel cases for all this cool technology, doing R&D...

You can get a proper job doing it, it's just everyone I know that actually have degrees in it sit at a desk doing entry level stuff they could sleep walk through while waiting for a senior tech to move on so they can advance and do what they were degreed to do.

Only have one friend who managed to get a position at MIT doing AI lab stuff, and that's only because he had a birth link to a professor. :laugh:

As it stands now, the work I do from home is what I'd be doing 9-5 elsewhere, but I get to work on my terms and though the pay is weak it makes me a lot more satisified in the end.

Beware dodgy jobs purporting to let you stay a NOOLer. :laugh:

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Oh dear everybody, i only e-mail a couple of people. Sorry if a virus is pretending to be me, i am a cool girl though. It's to be expected.

Hope nobody's computer crashed. Shug sent me an e-mail saying that the e-mail i sent him wasn't working. I thought it was very odd, as i'd never sent anything.

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Al Jarvis wrote: Oh right, I just thought Missy Jem was overly obnoxious on email ... didn't realise it was actually a virus?! :eek3:

*Slaps large bat against palm of hand menacingly*

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Lucyjane wrote: It's not just missy's email that appears, also bansheeman and gerry jamieson, rather odd. Thought bansheeman was sending me some superb photos but turns out to be a load of virus bollocks. Felt special and wanted for about five minutes! :love2:

All very strange, not being a computer head I find it all very hard to understand why anyone would want to fook up your computer and apparently wipe out all of your word files. :confused2:

jesus ive only just read this thread for the first time i never send e-mail via the site,just hotmail.how wierd. why me :cry: well,plus a few others

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I got about 20 of these emails yesterday. Didn't even see that they were from the NOOL adresses, the dodgy Subjects were enough to tell me to delete them all without opening. Can't remember what they were now, something fairly meaningless with a spelling mistake and a number.

My golden rule is if it looks unsafe - delete it. If you're not sure - delete it. If there's an attachment and you're not COMPLETELY sure what it is - delete it.

I get lots of spam emails to the email account which I only use for NOOL. This is a recent thing, the NOOL account was the only clean one for years. Obviously someone has broken in, taken our addresses and added them to a list that gets passed around the worlds spammers. As I result, I get about 20 emails a day offering me a bigger cock, free money etc etc.

This new thing sounds like it's an actual attack on us rather than the normal spamming. No cock enlargement was offered, just a dodgy-looking attachment. Wonder if we've upset someone. Can't think how...

:dunno:

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maybe its BSP ?

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Missy Jem wrote:

Al Jarvis wrote: Oh right, I just thought Missy Jem was overly obnoxious on email ... didn't realise it was actually a virus?! :eek3:

*Slaps large bat against palm of hand menacingly*

Slapper!

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bansheeman wrote:

Lucyjane wrote: It's not just missy's email that appears, also bansheeman and gerry jamieson, rather odd. Thought bansheeman was sending me some superb photos but turns out to be a load of virus bollocks. Felt special and wanted for about five minutes! :love2:

All very strange, not being a computer head I find it all very hard to understand why anyone would want to fook up your computer and apparently wipe out all of your word files. :confused2:

jesus ive only just read this thread for the first time i never send e-mail via the site,just hotmail.how wierd. why me :cry: well,plus a few others

The emails I received from you WERE from a hotmail address as were those from MISSY!!!!!!!!!! SCARY :evil:

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Never had a hotmail address.:scratch:

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BIGINOIL wrote:

Missy Jem wrote:

Al Jarvis wrote: Oh right, I just thought Missy Jem was overly obnoxious on email ... didn't realise it was actually a virus?! :eek3:

*Slaps large bat against palm of hand menacingly*

Slapper!

:wink:

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Missy Jem wrote:

Al Jarvis wrote: Oh right, I just thought Missy Jem was overly obnoxious on email ... didn't realise it was actually a virus?! :eek3:

*Slaps large bat against palm of hand menacingly*

My kneecaps are running scared. :eek3:

If you can reach them.

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Al Jarvis wrote:

Missy Jem wrote:

Al Jarvis wrote: Oh right, I just thought Missy Jem was overly obnoxious on email ... didn't realise it was actually a virus?! :eek3:

*Slaps large bat against palm of hand menacingly*

My kneecaps are running scared. :eek3:

if you can reach them.

:thumb: !

up the security settings on your browser. change password, again. right with Big&oily on this one- something looks dogey in any way. delete it. had all sorts of 'suggestions, have upped the security settings. now just lonely.

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beware fellow noolers. i keep getting e-mails at work, that contain picture attachments which contain a virus.

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I wouldn't use my work email for here.

:nono:

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BIGINOIL wrote: I wouldn't use my work email for here.

:nono:

well originally it was the only e-mail address i had, and now i can't change it in my profile. i think even if i could change it, i wouldn't.

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I still suspect the source is a zombie or at least infected box run by a NOOLer.

I base this on the fact that I have not heard of a spam harvester that picks up addresses, spoofs one to the other (ie sending from Jem to LJ) and tags on a virus. I may just be misinformed of course.

The chances are the poor bugger doesn't even know they are doing it.

If we knew everyone who'd recevied one, and everyone it had been spoofed from, and whether the mails come at certain times of day, we may be able to narrow it down and help them sort it.

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Steve Campbell wrote:

The chances are the poor bugger doesn't even know they are doing it.

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Could be me then:confused2:

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beware of e-mails from this address do not open the pictures. actually do not open it fullstop.

cerdsp@hotmail.com

i just got a few more this morining.

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