a planetary discussion

my favourite planet, besides our own, is probably jupiter. the gaseous planets have always intrigued me. i mean, are they made up completely of gas or are there solid cores underneath those swirling masses? we'll probably never know, at least not in our lifetime.

i also think the giant storm on jupiter is fascinating. earth can fit inside of it! that blows my mind. what happens in that storm, exactly? it must be pretty damn amazing stuff.

consider this: if there is life on jupiter, what would it look like? in carl sagan's book 'cosmos,' there were some interesting drawings of hot air balloon-like creatures. of course, they'd have to stay in the air all the time, but what would they breathe and would they be carbon based?

yeah, jupiter's cool.

let me just go outside and czech.it's a clear night tonight

Careful Johnny; that garage might go at any minute........

AGENTWOOD i URANUS and your MOUTH!

Lost planet is so far away,maybe there are some people lives there walkin and talkin ,one time before i tried to explain and proved that life somewhere can exist if a magnetic field is really important between four or five stars, because when the magnetic firld store up differents sederal matter and cell over stars,with time the same cosmic substance can transform on a new cell which mean propably life so the formula is time and magnetic field mean LIFE thank you Agentwood to talk about space gas and all substance from

2 out of THREE ain't BAD?

red sky at night shepard's warning .red sky in morning .ooops the shed's just collapsed

but here's anice pic of the sky anyway

You're pissed. Give me your keys!

Johnny wrote: red sky at night shepard's warning .red sky in morning .ooops the shed's just collapsed

but here's anice pic of the sky anyway

wow. i hope the sky doesn't look like that where you are.

and i love uranus, too, mick. i can't wait to see it up close.

ta

Wino wrote: Careful Johnny; that garage might go at any minute........

latest update on my shed.it's not collapsed yet but i will keep you all informed of developments.

this is the latest pic as i have

wasn't that in the texas chainsaw massacre?

now: back to the solar system and beyond....

the van allen belt, anyone?

i remember camping out in our back garden with my bro and a mate when i was baout 12.August 1980 one night there was the biggest meteorite shower in centuries.it was cool as fuck

AgentWood wrote: my favourite planet, besides our own, is probably jupiter. the gaseous planets have always intrigued me. i mean, are they made up completely of gas or are there solid cores underneath those swirling masses? we'll probably never know, at least not in our lifetime.

i also think the giant storm on jupiter is fascinating. earth can fit inside of it! that blows my mind. what happens in that storm, exactly? it must be pretty damn amazing stuff.

consider this: if there is life on jupiter, what would it look like? in carl sagan's book 'cosmos,' there were some interesting drawings of hot air balloon-like creatures. of course, they'd have to stay in the air all the time, but what would they breathe and would they be carbon based?

yeah, jupiter's cool.

There are a couple of stories you should check out...there's an excellent one by Arthur Clarke called "a meeting with Medusa" in which he discusses Jovian life. He also mentions it at GREAT length in some of the "off cuts" of the novel of 2001. I would also reccomend a hilarious Asimov story called (I think) "victory unintentional"...about some robots from earth who freak the shit out of the jovians by things such as surviving corrosive oxygen bombs and a heat ray that reaches nearly 30degrees C.

The big thing with the Jovian system for me, is the flux tube....imagine the northern lights, but instead of the 2 ends of the "circuit" being the poles of Earth, imagine one end as Io and the other as Jupiter...never seen a pic of it, but I've heard radio astromomers bitching about it, and it's often mentioned in sci fi as a highlight of the system.

Not only is jupiter probably our best chance of finding life (or rather Europa)...it's probably the only thing that's kept earth as relatively impact free as it is....being a big bulky gravity well soaking up a fair chunk of the debris in the system.

How big's yer mailbox Agent? I think I have meeting with medusa as an audio here (it's a short story rather than a book)

virtualghali wrote: Lost planet is so far away,maybe there are some people lives there walkin and talkin ,one time before i tried to explain and proved that life somewhere can exist if a magnetic field is really important between four or five stars, because when the magnetic firld store up differents sederal matter and cell over stars,with time the same cosmic substance can transform on a new cell which mean propably life so the formula is time and magnetic field mean LIFE thank you Agentwood to talk about space gas and all substance from

Sol's magnetic field does not reach far enough to interact with that of Proxyma Centauri, let alone Barnard's star, or any of our other neighbours.

The only thing I remember seeing in the sky was the Hale-Bopp comet back when I was in elementary school. I kept articles about it in the folder. I really don't have a favorite planet other than Earth.

Johnny, you are worrying me now. The next train out of New Street is a bit of a way off; don't move OK? Till Tuesday.

[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: The only thing I remember seeing in the sky was the Hale-Bopp comet back when I was in elementary school. I kept articles about it in the folder. I really don't have a favorite planet other than Earth.

Earth will never look sweeter, than as I gaze at it through my spread legs and dangling bits(non dangling of course owing to the weightlessness) , as I press my naked arse against the rear facing view port of a departing interstellar craft.

By magnetic field we could understand a lot ,especially about our origin when you think about neighbours stars like Barnard star,Proxima centaurus, our star (sun),and the last one i forgt the name all that stars are close to each other that form an invisible square around, this square represent magnetic field force zone rich with cosmic substance and diffrents cosmic matter maybe this is the explication of the humanity origin

AgentWood wrote:

now: back to the solar system and beyond....

the van allen belt, anyone?

It can bring large advertising logos to life that will then cause havoc.

In so far as magnetism influences ionizing radiation I suppose you could have a point.

Don't go all pseudo-science on me Virtual....I spend my life yelling "bollox" at the TV, the radio, books and people who say things of spurious scientific merit in an effort to pass them off as science.

The only big thing left in magnetism is whether there IS a usable, controllable link between the electromagnetic force and the gravitational force. FOr my own trip into pseudo-science...it has been suggested that Einstein actually had such a link as part of the first draft of his unified field theory, but that e removed from the revised theory, because he realised that humans are fucking arseholes who turned E=MC^2 into a friggin bomb :D

Personally I doubt that's true because the UFT has been picked apart by physicists and cosmologists ever since and no one else has ever hit upong that idea.

AgentWood wrote: wasn't that in the texas chainsaw massacre?

now: back to the solar system and beyond....

the van allen belt, anyone?

Isn't it the Van Aleen belts that moon loons point to as more of their ireefutable proof that we didn't really go there?

It's a great source of amusement to me.....sadly the proof experiment for this one is harder that that for the photographic evidence......you need to take a moon loon and his laptop and send them into Chernobyl's tomb....the 8ft rats should have made big burrows. once there, we will see which fails first, the moon loon or his lapper. Of course it will be the laptop, because electronics, being primarily quantum devices, take really unkindly to loads of heavy particulate radiation twatting into them. So the existence of satellites beyond the belts, say at the geosyncronous Clarke orbit, would somewhat suggest the belts are not as vicious as all that.....never mind the observation craft that fly through them all the time taking measurments

What did you call that movie about the van allen belts "catching fire" (gotta love old school hollywood sci fi), and everyone pissing off in a (non yellow) submarine?

I guess that you are interested about magnetic field from einstein version, his gravity theory was really a bomb before H bomb; personnaly i believe more about invisible square theory ,are we LGM or not

the solar system is hella kewl... people always bitch about how it is a useless waste of money but it is a positive thing for the country to do, something you can build on and share with all the world instead of just giving money to military contractors, oil companies, and bureaucaracy... the money is just a drop in the bucket anyway

invade the other planets and moons of the solar system and stop invading other countries... cheaper too

in our solar system and not fictional. that would have to both mars and venus. both as a reminder to us what can happen to earth if we fook it up. mars has always held a special facination for me with its channels, and possibility of having once sustained life.

AgentWood wrote: my favourite planet, besides our own, is probably jupiter. the gaseous planets have always intrigued me. i mean, are they made up completely of gas

Beans and Tabbsy at the center. Mystery solved.

Dem's fighting words, Comrade...

Anyway, it doesn't matter. The solar system is just another creation of the liberal media, like the landing on the moon, Buddhism, the election of 1992, and George W. Bush's DUI. It never happened, people...look it up! :book:

Taboo # 7 wrote: Dem's flatulence words, Comrade...:fart:

We know.

Never ceases to amaze me how a coupla sepo's like you can talk so much unmitigated, and undiluted bollox, it's quite remarkable....warms the cockles of me heart so it does...in fact it almost makes me wish the yellowstone caldera wasn't gonna vapourize your country sooner or later :D

Saturn is my fave after Earth. Those rings are such a kewl accessory. I am jealous. And all those moons!