Barbaro winner of kentucky derby breaks leg in next race.May be mercy-killed. It is very sad. I just hope public awareness rises with this. Horse racing is nonsense.
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nah the horses appear to love the running and jumping thing. Think THEY should get a prize tho not some stupid wee monkey sitting on them, don;t understand that.
As for shooting them, well it's been said here before that their legs are impossible to fix, so they have to be shot.....until I hear a vet tell me that no equine fracture is repairable, I assume what is meant is "it would cost too much to fix him".
Horse racing does seem a bit strange in this day and age, one would have thought that since horses no longer pull us around all day, that motorsport would have taken over. (actually they ran the brittish GP at Aintree racecourse twice in the 1950's).
As a complete bonus fact........what's the oldest racetrack in use today?
The Autodromo de Enzo et Dino Ferrari at Imola in Rimini, Italy ( although bizarrely it hosts the San marino GP, SM not being big enough to get a track into), the modern circuit sits in a natural amphitheatre on the same site as an old Roman Hippodrome (horse track), so it's been used for racing for 2500 years...impressive eh?
Yeah, horse racing is crap... Always lose... Those horseys are just too damn quick! 
SHEDi xxx
Steve Campbell wrote: As for shooting them, well it's been said here before that their legs are impossible to fix, so they have to be shot.....until I hear a vet tell me that no equine fracture is repairable, I assume what is meant is "it would cost too much to fix him".
Not sure I get this point, Steve. Even if it does cost too much to fix him, that's still a valid enough reason for an owner to shoot the beast, surely?!
And then serve him up with fries and a nice red onion marmalade! 
Its naive to think that owners and jockeys don't form a bond with an animal they've worked and trained with and are any less gutted by a horse's death than anyone else, no?
Interesting to note, the only horse to die in this year's National effectively broke its own leg whilst jumping, I believe. It broke its leg in a fall after unseating its rider at an earlier fence and had continued round the course under its own steam.
look at it another way these horses, they're specially bred to race, no? so if there was no racing they wouldn't exist anyway
they get to travel the country, meet their mates, do the race, go back home. they're like vikings without the alcomohol!
hibster wrote: look at it another way these horses, they're specially bred to race, no? so if there was no racing they wouldn't exist anyway
they get to travel the country, meet their mates, do the race, go back home. they're like vikings without the alcomohol!
and what's their reward for all this?
a fuckin carrot that's what!!
Well according to the below article on Yahoo, it looks like it the horse is going to make it or at least it is looking that way.
Psy
The doctor who performed five hours of intricate surgery on the colt was satisfied with the result, but blunt about the future for a horse who had put together an unbeaten record until he broke down in the Preakness Stakes. To be brutally honest, there's enough chance for things going bad that he's still a coin toss, even after everything went well," Dr. Dean Richardson said Sunday after the surgery at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center for Large Animals.
Barbaro's surgery to repair three bones shattered in his right rear leg at the Preakness went about as well as Richardson and trainer Michael Matz hoped. It wasn't long after surgery when Barbaro began to show signs he might just make it after all.
After a dip into a large swimming pool before he was awakened -- part of New Bolton's renowned recovery system that minimizes injury risk -- Barbaro was brought back to his stall, where he should have been calmly rested on all four legs.
Barbaro had other ideas.
"He decided to jump up and down a few times," Richardson said, smiling. "But he didn't hurt anything. That's the only thing that really matters. It had Michael worried."
That's not much to worry about after the agony of the previous 24 hours. Barbaro sustained "life-threatening injuries" Saturday when he broke bones above and below his right rear ankle at the start of the Preakness Stakes.
His surgery began around 1 p.m., but it wasn't until about eight hours later that Richardson and Matz emerged for a news briefing.
"I feel much more relieved after I saw him walk to the stall then when I was loading him in the ambulance to come up here, that's for darn sure," Matz said. "Nobody knew. It was an unknown area going in. I feel much more confident now. At least I feel he has a chance. Last night, I didn't know what was going to go on."
I used to follow horse racing till about 15 years ago when I decided that whenever there is a great horse he winds up getting injured. Very frustrating, just as a sports fan. Those animals are so fragile! Stop horse racing? It'll never happen as long as there's money to be made.
mercy-killed sounds very sad, I dont like it, but I know there is such a stupid custom in horse racing. poor animals
Easier to kill them than to treat them properly, I suppose.
They say he'd have to be off his feet for six weeks which is tough for a human but nearly impossible for a horse, I guess.
hibster wrote: look at it another way these horses, they're specially bred to race, no? so if there was no racing they wouldn't exist anyway
they get to travel the country, meet their mates, do the race, go back home. they're like vikings without the alcomohol!
Same argument as for farm animals on the way to the slaughterhouse. Lucky them, they got to be born, eh?
ghost rider wrote: Barbaro winner of kentucky derby breaks leg in next race.May be mercy-killed. It is very sad. I just hope public awareness rises with this. Horse racing is nonsense.
Drugs, the mob, glue factories, shooting the broken-legged... what's not to like?
I thought horseracing as a recreational sport. Even watched last year's Kentucky Derby with Smarty Jones. When I heard that Barbaro's injuries are life threatening and there was a possibility of him being put down, that changed my opinion of the sport.
Also, before Barbaro, I thought that having horse drawn carriages, especially the ones in NYC are cruel. I don't like the way horses are treated to be a spectator sport.
Comrade Shampanyov, Gentleman wrote:
ghost rider wrote: Barbaro winner of kentucky derby breaks leg in next race.May be mercy-killed. It is very sad. I just hope public awareness rises with this. Horse racing is nonsense.
Drugs, the mob, glue factories, shooting the broken-legged... what's not to like?
All true...but you neglect to mention horses love to race Would be cruel not to let them.
Nothing like seeing your horse romp home at the racetrack aswell The thunder of the hooves..exhilerating!
If you ever have a 66/1 winner romp in with a fiver each way on...or all your 4 horses in a lucky 15 come in and net you 3 G's youll see the beauty in horse racing like I do :D
I love horse racing, and the atmosphere is amazing. I always organise a few racing trips every year.
[magenta]Jem[/magenta] wrote: I love horse racing, and the atmosphere is amazing. I always organise a few racing trips every year.
Where's my bloody invite?
What is your favourite track? I like York
Shellshocker wrote: It'll never happen as long as there's money to be made.
that's why its called the sport of kings. (and kings have dough)
Boatraceface wrote:
[magenta]Jem[/magenta] wrote: I love horse racing, and the atmosphere is amazing. I always organise a few racing trips every year.
Where's my bloody invite? What is your favourite track? I like York
I've only been to Haydock, York and Chester so far (about 10 times each). I really want to do Thirsk, Cartmel and Doncaster this year. If we come up to Redcar, i'll let you know.:p
BTW York is favourite so far, cracking track and brilliant night out afterwards
[magenta]Jem[/magenta] wrote:
Boatraceface wrote:
[magenta]Jem[/magenta] wrote: I love horse racing, and the atmosphere is amazing. I always organise a few racing trips every year.
Where's my bloody invite? What is your favourite track? I like York
I've only been to Haydock, York and Chester so far (about 10 times each). I really want to do Thirsk, Cartmel and Doncaster this year. If we come up to Redcar, i'll let you know.:p
Do Chester. Do Chester. summer night racing. boss mate!!
Thirsk??? don't talk such shite.
(errr....where's that btw)
[magenta]Jem[/magenta] wrote:
Boatraceface wrote:
[magenta]Jem[/magenta] wrote: I love horse racing, and the atmosphere is amazing. I always organise a few racing trips every year.
Where's my bloody invite? What is your favourite track? I like York
I've only been to Haydock, York and Chester so far (about 10 times each). I really want to do Thirsk, Cartmel and Doncaster this year. If we come up to Redcar, i'll let you know.:p
and I'll let you know that its watterlogged and rained off 9 times out of 10
Missy does Musselbrough has a nice ring to it....Or was that a film I watched
Its all character building Jem,pages in your story
Boatraceface wrote:
Comrade Shampanyov, Gentleman wrote:
ghost rider wrote: Barbaro winner of kentucky derby breaks leg in next race.May be mercy-killed. It is very sad. I just hope public awareness rises with this. Horse racing is nonsense.
Drugs, the mob, glue factories, shooting the broken-legged... what's not to like?
All true...but you neglect to mention horses love to race
Nothing like seeing your horse romp home at the racetrack aswell
If you ever have a 66/1 winner romp in with a fiver each way on...or all your 4 horses in a lucky 15 come in and net you 3 G's youll see the beauty in horse racing like I do :D
If I ever had a 66/1 winner romp in with a fiver each way on...or all my 4 horses in a lucky 15 come in and net me 3 G's then I would be a racing fan for life!!
66/1 winner selhurst Park flyer in 1997
Not something you forget
Had a few 4 timers come in...Once I had four winners with £1700 riding on to a fifth which was 7/1 and it got beat.. You do the maths...ok I will..with all the double's and trebles added on it would have been in excess of 16 G's....a "Come and see what you woulda won moment"for sure.
Still lifted the £1700 like,so a bit of a result on a £6 stake
So,horse Racing...Good innit? 
Yes... I've lost a few bob along the way too...fuckin hate horse racing
Boatraceface wrote: 66/1 winner selhurst Park flyer in 1997 Not something you forget
Had a few 4 timers come in...Once I had four winners with £1700 riding on to a fifth which was 7/1 and it got beat.. You do the maths...ok I will..with all the double's and trebles added on it would have been in excess of 16 G's....a "Come and see what you woulda won moment"for sure. Still lifted the £1700 like,so a bit of a result on a £6 stake
So,horse Racing...Good innit?
Good for you, anyway.
Yes... I've lost a few bob along the way too...fuckin hate horse racing
I don't know what the hell happened with the above post. Software didn't feel like cooperating I guess.
I have never bet on the horses, but when I lived in So Cal, use to make trips down to baja and bet on the college and pro football.
Best I ever did was a few hundred dollars once, was never able to hit the 10 team parlays that would have paid 10K. Kept coming close with having 9 of the 10 teams cover the spread, but never able to get that last win for the payoff.
Psy
Have to love horse racing. . .I share the same name as one of the fastest race horses of all time. . .John-Henry. Got to meet him when I traveled through Kentuky. Normally they don't let anyone get within 12 feet of him, since he is a very aggressive, competitive horse, but I was able to take a picture with him, feed him and comb his hair. Cool stuff.
As for those that think these animals are treated cruelly, obviously don't know the sport. These horses are worth MILLIONS of dollars. . .no one treats an investment poorly. Once they can't race anymore, unless they are a gelding, they are worth even more money for breeding. Even if they are a gelding, they become expensive pets for the super wealthy. Plus there is a real attachment between them, thier riders and owners.
Now if we want to talk about animal cruelty for a sport, bull fighting is definately top of the list.
JHC
What becomes of a retired class G plater/seller tho Pontiac?
Not that Prit-stick are complaining or owt
[magenta]shedmonite61[/magenta] wrote: I thought horseracing as a recreational sport. Even watched last year's Kentucky Derby with Smarty Jones. When I heard that Barbaro's injuries are life threatening and there was a possibility of him being put down, that changed my opinion of the sport.
Also, before Barbaro, I thought that having horse drawn carriages, especially the ones in NYC are cruel. I don't like the way horses are treated to be a spectator sport.
Ace bird... :)
I quite enjoy a good race meet. I know enough to know that i know very little about from and thus stay away from the bookies. its all about watching top class racing, dressing up and drinking champagne. The horses enjoy it as well.
NOOLigan wrote: I quite enjoy a good race meet. I know enough to know that i know very little about from and thus stay away from the bookies. its all about watching top class racing, dressing up and drinking champagne. The horses enjoy it as well.
has a horse personally told you this? I think they do not enjoy cameras, noise, and the whip associated with horse racing.
I find it interesting how a horse's leg could break from a simple misstep. I suspect these race horses cannot bare their weight any longer. They must be overtrained and pumped up with drugs.
Been to most 'good' racecourses - York is the best for flat. Hubby managed Worcester racecourse (only the catering side of things), though it was only open for a few days a year, due to water logging....however....New Years Day at Warwick, good for a laugh and Cheltenham festival........cold and take your own, cos you will never get served and when that wind blows...........it blows cold!
off to first day of Royal Ascot.........Epsom is great; but it is usual that if a horse wins a long race at York, he is tipped for the Derby! Watch and learn. Forget the betfair forums....you heard it here first!
Now if you want to talk about the ins and outs of 'laying' bets.......ask away....you can make more money laying than playing!
Anyone into the tote ten to follow? Not on the leaders board yet..but I live in hope.
Comrade Shampanyov, Gentleman wrote:
[magenta]shedmonite61[/magenta] wrote: I thought horseracing as a recreational sport. Even watched last year's Kentucky Derby with Smarty Jones. When I heard that Barbaro's injuries are life threatening and there was a possibility of him being put down, that changed my opinion of the sport.
Also, before Barbaro, I thought that having horse drawn carriages, especially the ones in NYC are cruel. I don't like the way horses are treated to be a spectator sport.
Ace bird... :)
Thanks, Comrade. :)
Wino wrote: off to first day of Royal Ascot....Epsom is great; but it is usual that if a horse wins a long race at York, he is tipped for the Derby! Watch and learn. Forget the betfair forums....you heard it here first!
Now if you want to talk about the ins and outs of 'laying' bets...ask away..you can make more money laying than playing! Anyone into the tote ten to follow? Not on the leaders board yet..but I live in hope.
Agreed you have to watch and learn. Stayed w/ some family friends up in Queensland a few years back and it was their passion. More the obsession but still. It was all about the stats and watching who the owners were etc. Used to follow Greyhound Races a bit down in Arizona. Shame that there are casualties but what to do.
