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How can the americans survive with all this censorship on tv?

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This is something that pissed me off a little when I was in NYC last week-end.. what's with the TV censorship? I watched 2 movies and they cut scenes from the movies, and seriously, it wasn't that much of a big deal.

Today I just read in the newspaper that the government passed a law to multiply by 10 the fines for sex and cursing on TV.

Damn it, you call this the land of the free? I thought we got rid of censorship a long while ago.

This is seriously going too far, and it all started because of the Janet Jackson "incident"... :nonono:

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I'd say it all began with the Florida "incident"...

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The neocons long for the days when "Petticoat Junction" merely suggested at the goings-on in the water tower, rather than show us the all-girl-and-one-dog orgy that we all know went on there :evil4:

(note: If you have no idea what I'm talking about...I pity you your lack of culture) :p

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Taboo # 7 wrote: The neocons long for the days when "Petticoat Junction" merely suggested at the goings-on in the water tower, rather than show us the all-girl-and-one-dog orgy that we all know went on there :evil4:

(note: If you have no idea what I'm talking about...I pity you your lack of culture) :p

You can take the boy out of Hooterville, but you... Wait a minute, no you can't! :p

Come ride the little train that is rolling down the tracks to the junction. (Petticoat Junction) Forget about your cares, it is time to relax at the junction. (Petticoat Junction)

Lotsa curves, you bet. Even more when you get To the junction, Petticoat Junction.

There's a little hotel called the Shady Rest at the junction. (Petticoat Junction) It is run by Kate, come and be her guest at the junction. (Petticoat Junction) And that's Uncle Joe, he's a movin' kind of slow at the junction, Petticoat Junction.

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turn off the TV...

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Then there's the "friggin'" version of Scarface...:ignore:

:p

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Marc wrote: http://pulpfictionedited.ytmnd.com/

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My best mate and I were watching some film, don't remember which, and one character called another character a "monkeyrider."

Er, that's not what his lips were saying... :evil4:

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Ahhh yes JUST the sort of fucks who ought to be in charge of freedom LOL.

Land of the free? Police state cmpared to NI...which actually has BEEN a police state.

EDIT: I watched the Blues Brothers on TV in Chicago, thought it would be a cool thing to do with my sore hungover head. Cut to RIBBONS LOL. pussies, nanny state twats.

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Doctor? wrote: Ahhh yes JUST the sort of folks who ought to be in charge of freedom :bow2:.

Land of the free! Policemen are your friends.

EDIT: I watched the Blues Brothers on TV in Chicago, thought it would be a cool thing to do with my free time.

Cut to PERFECTION LOL it was funny. princes and princesses, the FCC :thumb:.

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Only thing I can add to this is that what you refering to is the basic cable television. These parameters only fall under local tv stations. Cable tv does not have deletions, or censors.

Because I have children, I don't want sex and cursing all over local tv stations. It's amazing how my son will zone out when the tv is on, but as soon as something sexual is on the tube he's glued to it. . .and there is no warning as it is in alot of commercials and shows unexpectedly. I also like to have my cable channels, that curse and have sexual content, for my enjoyment for when mt kids are in bed.

Also sometimes it's amusing to hear the dub overs, like "monkey-rider", like Comrade was refering to.

JHC

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68Pontiac wrote:

Also sometimes it's amusing to hear the dub overs, like "monkey-rider", like Comrade was refering to.

JHC

We were rolling-on-the-floor laughing! And now that I think about it, it was a Samuel L. Jackson film. :evil4:

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Comrade Shampanyov, Gentleman wrote:

68Pontiac wrote:

Also sometimes it's amusing to hear the dub overs, like "monkey-rider", like Comrade was refering to.

JHC

We were rolling-on-the-floor laughing! And now that I think about it, it was a Samuel L. Jackson film. :evil4:

That it was Jackson actually makes it alot funnier.

JHC

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:shrug: I don't watch TV unless there's some britcom on PBS or some history show. Oh, and NCIS during regular seasons.:shades:

I get my news from more 24 hour, varied sources. :skeptic: Internet's a great equalizer in the censorship campaign. That is, unless you use some sort of child filter.

I think the only think that shocked me was passing a TV at 7pm and hearing a spattering of different cuss words aside from the F bomb on your average everyday nationally broadcast non cable station. I mean, I grew up during the 80s, and that would have been call of a round of furious phone calls to a station material.

People flip out over alleged nipple clamps on half time shows, but have the notion to not care with language, but then want to turn around and block anything that shows a more liberal conversation in news reporting.. it makes no sense.

Make up yer mind. :laugh:

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Dunno what exactly yer talking about Nick, maybe it's just the regular, non-premium TV channels, but the only show I make a point to watch is Deadwood on HBO, which has got the language covered. And since HBO is paired with Skin, errr, Cinemax out here, there's the sex part. Must say the edited version of Big Lebowski that airs on Comedy Central is a major travesty though.

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I think the lawmakers usually are going after not showing things that go on in their own bedrooms anyway, so it's easier to see why they'd get so upset :evil4:

Senator Specter, I'm going to have to ask you to use the safe word if you want to be untied :whip:

Senator Kennedy, please! Can you stop gnawing at your ankle cuff! :p

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Someone told me or I read somewhere that some channels are SO under the whip of the church that they must beep out "god".

ROFLMFAO.

oh yes PLEASE I BEG YOU, bomb my country and make it as free as yours oh PLEASE.

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Doctor? wrote: Someone told me or I read somewhere that some channels are SO under the whip of the church that they must beep out "god".

ROFLMFAO.

oh yes PLEASE I BEG YOU, bomb my country and make it as free as yours oh PLEASE.

When you can't take the Lord's name in vain on The 700 Club...well, that's not America anymore :nonono:

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Oh yeah, not that I'm a big Howard Stern fan or anything, but how does Saint Oprah get away with talking about "tossing a salad" on day-time TV while Howard couldn't say that on the radio?

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[darkgreen]Green[/darkgreen] wrote: Oh yeah, not that I'm a big Howard Stern fan or anything, but how does Saint Oprah get away with talking about "tossing a salad" on day-time TV while Howard couldn't say that on the radio?

I agree, the FCC has a double standard. Though to be fair, a one-time incident where someone not known for a potty mouth makes a slip doesn't warrent the same scrutiny as a repeat offender, but if you're going to set across-the-board penalties because you're suddenly waking up to the fact that the Fifties are long over, treat everyone equally. If the FCC went after Oprah, I guaren-damn-tee you they would be exposed for how uptight they are (as well how ridiculous some of the complaints filed have been).

I think there was a news story a while back that revealed most of the "complaints" filed to the FCC came from parent's groups with obvious right-wing agendas and some major parenting issues with their own kids. Anytime you can motivate people to blindly protest any sort of "profanity" without taking into account the context you are stepping on some major elements of the right to Free Speech. Plus, the ironic thing is most of these groups miss the point: if you ignore something that offends you in the popular media, it will go away and lose its power. Once you start in on someone like Stern or various other shock-jocks, you give them creedance that they wouldn't have otherwise. Really, would anyone know who Howard Stern was if the FCC and uptight prudes hadn't started assaulting him?

So my message to the "complainors" is thus: Grow the fuck up. People say shit all the time that you wouldn't want your ten-year-old to hear. Set a motherfucking goddamn example and don't be a pussy about not using that cocksucking language around them. They'll fucking thank you for it, shithead :evil4:

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Luv the Al Swearengen-speak in the last paragraph Trevor! :clap:

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Taboo # 7 wrote: So my message to the "complainors" is thus: Grow the flub up. People say stuff all the time that you wouldn't want your ten-year-old to hear. Set a mop-and-bucket good-time example and don't be a prissy about not using that cornslurping language around them. They'll rumping thank you for it, bedspread :evil4:

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[darkgreen]Green[/darkgreen] wrote: Luv the Al Swearengen-speak in the last paragraph Trevor! :clap:

Thanks, I was feeling the moment there and went for it...plus, I realized that the previous paragraphs had no obvious laughs. So, me being the resident jester here...:evil4:

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I feel sorry for Americans and their prudish TV and government. Acting like it's the end of the world when Janet Jackson exposed her chest slightly... The hypocrisy is, I hear that Americans are fairly lenient about violence, yet act like sex, sexuality, and nudity are the worst evil...:nonono: :thumbdown: Grow up, people!

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leather_girl wrote: I feel sorry for Americans and their prudish TV and government. Acting like it's the end of the world when Janet Jackson exposed her chest slightly... The hypocrisy is, I hear that Americans are fairly lenient about violence, yet act like sex, sexuality, and nudity are the worst evil...:nonono: :thumbdown: Grow up, people!

LeatherGirl,

Considering your from Japan, I would say the same type of hypocrisies are in your culture as well.

And this restriction is only to certian channels (which are "family" oriented), there are plenty of channels that don't have this censorship. Lay off.

JHC

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I dunno, perhaps I'm in a minority of one on this side of the Atlantic, but even though things like the Janet Jackson 'wardrobe malfunction' row seem completely ridiculous, sometimes I think there's something to be said for the way the US does things. I mean, yes Bible Belt prudery seems absurd and tiresome, but there's also something tiresome about the crude sniggering approach to sex in this county, t&a shoved in your face in every newsagent (lad mags seem a bit sad to me) and tabloid newspaper, not to mention the tendency of the French to use naked women's bodies to sell just about anything. The US approach seems to be to defend freedom of speech (in a way we don't do in Europe) but you have to specially look for 'offensive' stuff, the mainstream is kept bland and wholesome. Here the mainstream is much more permissive but there's actually much _more_ censorship at the margins.

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Best overdubbed substitute for "motherfucker" in a movie on TV:

melon farmer (Die Hard 3)

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leather_girl wrote: I feel sorry for Americans and their prudish TV and government. Acting like it's the end of the world when Janet Jackson exposed her chest slightly... The hypocrisy is, I hear that Americans are fairly lenient about violence, yet act like sex, sexuality, and nudity are the worst evil...:nonono: :thumbdown: Grow up, people!

In terms of censorship, nothing beats japanese porn... :evil4:

Now that is funny, mosaics everywhere... (I was told, of course ;) )

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I agree that violence is out of control on American TV (CSI shows extremely grisly murders, House is medical yuckiness times twenty, Jack Bauer kills probably 4 people per episode of 24 and tortures people without mercy), however I think the language restrictions are actually being relaxed, i.e. more "goddamns" and even "shit" on basic cable!

Sex/nudity, however, is woefully prudish :thumbdown: Just when ya need a good T&A fix before bedtime (heh heh :uhoh: ), not a nip or doggy style in sight :nonono:

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404 error wrote: I dunno, perhaps I'm in a minority of one on this side of the Atlantic, but even though things like the Janet Jackson 'wardrobe malfunction' row seem completely ridiculous, sometimes I think there's something to be said for the way the US does things. I mean, yes Bible Belt prudery seems absurd and tiresome, but there's also something tiresome about the crude sniggering approach to sex in this county, t&a shoved in your face in every newsagent (lad mags seem a bit sad to me) and tabloid newspaper, not to mention the tendency of the French to use naked women's bodies to sell just about anything. The US approach seems to be to defend freedom of speech (in a way we don't do in Europe) but you have to specially look for 'offensive' stuff, the mainstream is kept bland and wholesome. Here the mainstream is much more permissive but there's actually much _more_ censorship at the margins.

I thought your comments on the soldiers was very agreeable. But that is a load of tripe.

Prissy nonsense.

Sex in the UK shouldnt be judged by shelves on a newsagent store. Surely it's just about how often you get your end away :uhoh:

:thumb:

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