Major Terror Alert In The UK

An easier solution would be to simply accept the holy word of the Prophet Mohammed, you infidel scum.

After all, it's the troof, innit??

The first religion who's n000 year old holy book contains the structure of DNA and a decent theory of gravitation, gets my soul.

This is all just a ploy to distract us from Snakes on a Plane. If you don't motherfuckin' see Samuel Motherfuckin' Jackson blow away every motherfuckin' snake on that motherfuckin' plane, the motherfuckin' terrorists motherfuckin' win

I have no doubt that this is a legit attempt...but nice how they just got around to arresting the guys now (when the shit is hitting the fan public-opinion-wise over the war)

Edit: what I mean is, they said in a press conference how they were tracking these guys for months.

Taboo # 7 wrote:

I have no doubt that this is a legit attempt...but nice how they just got around to arresting the guys now (when the shit is hitting the fan public-opinion-wise over the war)

Edit: what I mean is, they said in a press conference how they were tracking these guys for months.

I'm sure there is a little room for selective timing perhaps, but then again, the police are becoming increasingly paranoid on moving until they have evidence in place. I get the feeling this plot was imminent, and they acted when it was about to happen. Sure we will find out in next few days.

Recently, they've shot an innocent Brazilian dead, and torn apart the house of two seemingly innocent Moslem brothers in Forest Gate, who had allegedly had a dirty bomb, and found nothing. These blunders have alienated a Moslem community over here, and the police have to be very careful in moving at the right time to get a watertight case.

arek p. wrote:

Shellshocker wrote:

Unlike most Americans, I'm aware that it's the British who actually cracked the code. But, really, what kind of movie would that make?

David, check it again, its quite interesting.

btw. what does funlarious mean?

David, check it again, its quite interesting. I don't understand you.

what does funlarious mean? That's just CM making up new words.

Doctor? wrote: The first religion who's n000 year old holy book contains the structure of DNA and a decent theory of gravitation, gets my soul.

bansheeman wrote: bastards.wonder if it was timed on the opening of the 9/11 film in america.thank GOD that we have a good intellegence network

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1225453,00.html?cnn=yes

Thwarting the Airline Plot: Inside the Investigation Exclusive: U.S. picked up the suspects' chatter and shared it with British authorities; new federal alert warns that peroxide-based explosives could also be employed in future attacks in the U.S.

looks we bailed your asses out again, just like WWII

Having worked as a baggage handler at an international airport all I can say is that you don't want to know how easy it would be to get a bomb on a plane if you really wanted to.

Bob Konkel wrote:

bansheeman wrote: bastards.wonder if it was timed on the opening of the 9/11 film in america.thank GOD that we have a good intellegence network

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1225453,00.html?cnn=yes

Thwarting the Airline Plot: Inside the Investigation Exclusive: U.S. picked up the suspects' chatter and shared it with British authorities; new federal alert warns that peroxide-based explosives could also be employed in future attacks in the U.S.

looks we bailed your asses out again, just like WWII

Don't worry, Bliar will be on his knees with Bush in his mouth again pretty soon to say thanks.

Doctor? wrote:

In fairnes the yanks DID capture the Kriegsmarine's Enigma that used an extra rotor, from a damaged U-boot that the captain made a dog's dick out of scuttling.

Like fuck they did, you've swallowed that hook line and sinker. Yet another Hollywood lie.

Simple fact is too many people in this world believe the pro-US propaganda that Hollywood is churning out by manipulating or in some cases re-inventing historical fact.

The following is from here

Enigma and the associated "code books" (actually, cipher-key tables) were first captured from U-110 by the British in May 1941, before the United States' entry into World War II. The British also captured material from U-559 in 1942. The U.S. Navy did seize German Naval Enigma material in June 1944 when it captured U-505 (the U.S. Navy's first capture of an enemy vessel at sea in 129 years).

The film caused irritation in Britain. Critics argued that U-571 failed to portray history correctly because, in total, there were some 15 captures of Naval Enigma material during World War II, of which the Americans carried out one (U-505), the Canadians carried out one (U-774), and the British performed the rest. While the British captures from submarines and weather trawlers provided critical information for breaking Enigma, by the time of the American and Canadian captures, the Allies were reading Naval Enigma routinely. Moreover, the American capture of U-505 by a destroyer captain on the eve of D-Day might have jeopardized Operation Overlord. However, as acknowledged by the film-makers, the story of the film is entirely fictional.

Shortly after the release of the film, BBC radio interviewed a former British naval officer who had been involved in the recovery of cipher-key tables from a German submarine that was on the point of sinking; he commented that the film was entertaining, though it had nothing to do with historical fact.

The movie has also been criticized for a scene in which the U-boat crewmen machine-gun Allied merchant crewmen who have survived their ship's sinking, killing them in cold blood as they float helplessly in their lifeboat. The implication is that the killing of survivors was typical U-boat behavior. Critics of the U-571 movie point out that this is an incorrect depiction of typical U-boat crew behavior. In contrast to the depiction of U-boat men in the movie, and to the behavior of German armed forces in other services and fronts, U-boat crewman almost universally followed the accepted rules of war; in a number of incidents, they helped survivors with food, directions and occasionally medical aid. Assistance to survivors only stopped after Admiral Karl Dönitz issued the "Laconia order" following a US attack on U-boats transporting injured POWs under a flag of truce (the Laconia Incident). Out of several thousand sinkings of merchantmen in World War II, there is only one documented case of a U-boat crew deliberately attacking the ship's survivors: that of the U-852, a Type IXD2 U-boat under Kpt.lt. Heinz-Wilhehm Eck, whose crew attacked survivors of the Greek ship Peleus.

There in fact was a German submarine designated U-571, but that vessel was never involved in events like most of those depicted in the film.

I didn't read your whole post yet mate, but......

I didn't even SEE that retarded movie, the info I gave was based on 3 different documetary films I have seen on the subject of Enigma and Bletchley park. Turing and his furst programmable computer cracked the original Enigma machine. However, admiral doenitz (I defo spelled that wrong) instigated the use of a machine with an extra scrambling rotor for use accross the wolf pack and possibly the surface Kriegsmarine too (memory eludes me). An example of a 4 rotor machine was indeed capture by the US navy, following an engagement with an U-boot during a convoy raid. The vessel was damaged, and forced to emergency surface. Standing orders said the captain was supposed to destroy the entire contents of the code safe, for some reason...presumably a desire not to drown, he legged it without doing this. ONce the US warship had taken the crew aboard, some yanks just strolled on to the empty U-boot and picked up the Enigma and codes like they were popping down to wallmart...no heroism, just shopping.

Is this not the case?

Or were you just leaping on me cos you thought I was talking about the balls talked in that movie?

EDIT: read it all now, I see where you are coming from, I would therefor suppose that I saw US made "documentaries" with English language dubbing :( Point taken and accepted JT.

Bob Konkel wrote:

bansheeman wrote: bastards.wonder if it was timed on the opening of the 9/11 film in america.thank GOD that we have a good intellegence network

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1225453,00.html?cnn=yes

Thwarting the Airline Plot: Inside the Investigation Exclusive: U.S. picked up the suspects' chatter and shared it with British authorities; new federal alert warns that peroxide-based explosives could also be employed in future attacks in the U.S.

looks we bailed your asses out again, just like WWII

actually it stemmed from arrests made in pakistan and the pakistani authorities passed the info on to the uk from there.

i'd get your facts straight before you start spouting gross insults like the one you made above bob.

redken wrote:

Bob Konkel wrote:

bansheeman wrote: bastards.wonder if it was timed on the opening of the 9/11 film in america.thank GOD that we have a good intellegence network

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1225453,00.html?cnn=yes

Thwarting the Airline Plot: Inside the Investigation Exclusive: U.S. picked up the suspects' chatter and shared it with British authorities; new federal alert warns that peroxide-based explosives could also be employed in future attacks in the U.S.

looks we bailed your asses out again, just like WWII

actually it stemmed from arrests made in pakistan and the pakistani authorities passed the info on to the uk from there.

i'd get your facts straight before you start spouting gross insults like the one you made above bob.

I assumed he was more or less joking. Certainly I don't think he intended an "insult".

James Thomas wrote:

Doctor? wrote:

In fairnes the yanks DID capture the Kriegsmarine's Enigma that used an extra rotor, from a damaged U-boot that the captain made a dog's dick out of scuttling.

Like fuck they did, you've swallowed that hook line and sinker. Yet another Hollywood lie.

Simple fact is too many people in this world believe the pro-US propaganda that Hollywood is churning out by manipulating or in some cases re-inventing historical fact.

The following is from here

Enigma and the associated "code books" (actually, cipher-key tables) were first captured from U-110 by the British in May 1941, before the United States' entry into World War II. The British also captured material from U-559 in 1942. The U.S. Navy did seize German Naval Enigma material in June 1944 when it captured U-505 (the U.S. Navy's first capture of an enemy vessel at sea in 129 years).

The film caused irritation in Britain. Critics argued that U-571 failed to portray history correctly because, in total, there were some 15 captures of Naval Enigma material during World War II, of which the Americans carried out one (U-505), the Canadians carried out one (U-774), and the British performed the rest. While the British captures from submarines and weather trawlers provided critical information for breaking Enigma, by the time of the American and Canadian captures, the Allies were reading Naval Enigma routinely. Moreover, the American capture of U-505 by a destroyer captain on the eve of D-Day might have jeopardized Operation Overlord. However, as acknowledged by the film-makers, the story of the film is entirely fictional.

Shortly after the release of the film, BBC radio interviewed a former British naval officer who had been involved in the recovery of cipher-key tables from a German submarine that was on the point of sinking; he commented that the film was entertaining, though it had nothing to do with historical fact.

The movie has also been criticized for a scene in which the U-boat crewmen machine-gun Allied merchant crewmen who have survived their ship's sinking, killing them in cold blood as they float helplessly in their lifeboat. The implication is that the killing of survivors was typical U-boat behavior. Critics of the U-571 movie point out that this is an incorrect depiction of typical U-boat crew behavior. In contrast to the depiction of U-boat men in the movie, and to the behavior of German armed forces in other services and fronts, U-boat crewman almost universally followed the accepted rules of war; in a number of incidents, they helped survivors with food, directions and occasionally medical aid. Assistance to survivors only stopped after Admiral Karl Dönitz issued the "Laconia order" following a US attack on U-boats transporting injured POWs under a flag of truce (the Laconia Incident). Out of several thousand sinkings of merchantmen in World War II, there is only one documented case of a U-boat crew deliberately attacking the ship's survivors: that of the U-852, a Type IXD2 U-boat under Kpt.lt. Heinz-Wilhehm Eck, whose crew attacked survivors of the Greek ship Peleus.

There in fact was a German submarine designated U-571, but that vessel was never involved in events like most of those depicted in the film.

Why let the truth get in the way of a perfectly good story? Well, at least they had a disclaimer that it was fictional, and the British naval officer did say it was entertaining. Why they felt the need to change the characters from British to American (I've said it before and I'll say it again-producers are fuckin idiots) I don't know.

Shellshocker wrote:

redken wrote:

Bob Konkel wrote:

bansheeman wrote: bastards.wonder if it was timed on the opening of the 9/11 film in america.thank GOD that we have a good intellegence network

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1225453,00.html?cnn=yes

Thwarting the Airline Plot: Inside the Investigation Exclusive: U.S. picked up the suspects' chatter and shared it with British authorities; new federal alert warns that peroxide-based explosives could also be employed in future attacks in the U.S.

looks we bailed your asses out again, just like WWII

actually it stemmed from arrests made in pakistan and the pakistani authorities passed the info on to the uk from there.

i'd get your facts straight before you start spouting gross insults like the one you made above bob.

I assumed he was more or less joking. Certainly I don't think he intended an "insult".

half joke half retort to the original post I quoted.

thank GOD that WE have a good intellegence network.... blah blah blah

as if England and England alone saved the day, because our intelligance and the Pakistani's for that matter are so inept... So inept that we hav'nt had one terror incident on US soil since 9/11.

Has anyone noticed that we've been getting a lot of these goddamn scroll bars at the bottom of our posts, when you quote someone and it's getting towards the bottom of the page?

5 years looking for Bin Laden, and all they had to do was find out where they were sending his CIA pension LOL

Doctor? wrote: 5 years looking for Bin Laden, and all they had to do was find out where they were sending his CIA pension LOL

My thoughts exactly- I think it suits Bush's needs to have him 'out there'- Gives him an excuse to keeping finding new countries to bomb!

Shellshocker wrote:

arek p. wrote:

Shellshocker wrote:

Unlike most Americans, I'm aware that it's the British who actually cracked the code. But, really, what kind of movie would that make?

David, check it again, its quite interesting.

btw. what does funlarious mean?

David, check it again, its quite interesting. I don't understand you.

what does funlarious mean? That's just CM making up new words.

the code of Enigma was broken by Poles: Marian Rejewski, Jerzy Rozycki and Henryk Zygalski. All three mathematicians. It was in 1932, december. Until 70's it was a secret, kept in british archives.

Yes... and the French intelligence services had all the monthly codes thanks to Hans Thilo Schmidt they corrupted...

But French lost all the wars and are cowards, Poles lazy antisemit right-wings Catholics (even if they are the best plumbers in the world) so that ...

GOD BLESS AMERICA !!!

Jiphy wrote: Yes... and the French intelligence services had all the monthly codes thanks to Hans Thilo Schmidt they corrupted...

But French lost all the wars and are cowards, Poles lazy antisemit right-wings Catholics (even if they are the best plumbers in the world) so that ...

GOD BLESS AMERICA !!!

hehe, youve got a cutting sence of humor,I like that. btw. Did any polish plumber hurt you?

arek p. wrote:

Shellshocker wrote:

arek p. wrote:

Shellshocker wrote:

Unlike most Americans, I'm aware that it's the British who actually cracked the code. But, really, what kind of movie would that make?

David, check it again, its quite interesting.

btw. what does funlarious mean?

David, check it again, its quite interesting. I don't understand you.

what does funlarious mean? That's just CM making up new words.

the code of Enigma was broken by Poles: Marian Rejewski, Jerzy Rozycki and Henryk Zygalski. All three mathematicians. It was in 1932, december. Until 70's it was a secret, kept in british archives.

Jiphy wrote: Yes... and the French intelligence services had all the monthly codes thanks to Hans Thilo Schmidt they corrupted...

But French lost all the wars and are cowards, Poles lazy antisemit right-wings Catholics (even if they are the best plumbers in the world) so that ...

GOD BLESS AMERICA !!!

Oh, what the hell, why don't we ALL take credit for cracking the Enigma codes?! The Buddhist monks in the mountains of Bhutan actually cracked Enigma! All hail the mighty Kingdom of Bhutan! WW2 could not have been won without us! Plus the coolest flag in the world! Will kick your flag's ass any day o' the week!

Jiphy wrote: Yes... and the French intelligence services had all the monthly codes thanks to Hans Thilo Schmidt they corrupted...

But French lost all the wars and are cowards, Poles lazy antisemit right-wings Catholics (even if they are the best plumbers in the world) so that ...

GOD BLESS AMERICA !!!

Don't forget, the Poles also lead the world in the production of golf carts, even though they have no golf courses! (well, at least that was true 15 years ago)

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: I think you all have it wrong...Al Gore, sitting around, bored, before inventing the internet, broke the German Enigma code in 1904, BEFORE the Enigma code had even been invented...that's how smart Al Gore is....

and Chuck Norris could have won WWII single handedly...

now how's THAT for revisionist history???

Actually, I think the Chuckster, with Gore's help, will travel back in time and defeat the Nazis with one hand tied behind his back!

Shellshocker wrote:

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: I think you all have it wrong...Al Gore, sitting around, bored, before inventing the internet, broke the German Enigma code in 1904, BEFORE the Enigma code had even been invented...that's how smart Al Gore is....

and Chuck Norris could have won WWII single handedly...

now how's THAT for revisionist history???

Actually, I think the Chuckster, with Gore's help, will travel back in time and defeat the Nazis with one hand tied behind his back!

Or has that happened already.

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: I think you all have it wrong...Al Gore, sitting around, bored, before inventing the internet, broke the German Enigma code in 1904, BEFORE the Enigma code had even been invented...that's how smart Al Gore is....

and Chuck Norris could have won WWII single handedly...

now how's THAT for revisionist history???

thank you Jeff, I always wanted to know the truth

arek p. wrote: hehe, youve got a cutting sence of humor,I like that. btw. Did any polish plumber hurt you?

Never... but I have seen some in the streets of Krakow. They scared me to death !!! I followed a regiment of nuns crossing the main square to a church where I praised the Lord and asked Him to prevent us from an invasion of Polish plumbers...

You see, Nazi panzers in 1940, Polish plumbers in 2006, that is too much. And as you are not Muslims, W would have done nothing to rescue us... no good...

But God made French people vote against the Constitution of the European Union and therefore we have not lived an another humiliating invasion...

stastna konec !