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Che fucking Guevara

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What a cunt. In my eyes, this guy is up there with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Arafat and a bunch of other cunts.

It amazes me that I cannot go anywhere without seeing some twat wearing a t shirt with his image emblazoned on it. Why do people do this? And why do people worship someone who has

a) been dead for 39 years

b) responsible for setting up the first concentration camp in Cuba

and

c) responsible for the deaths of thousads of people.

The mind boggles. Truly it does.

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Let's bare in mind that most of these twats in t-shirts havn't got a fuckin clue who he is!

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the thing is, if i walked through Manchester with a t shirt with a big picture of Ariel Sharon on it i'd likely get murdered by the jobless lot who stand around town all day waving a flag of a country they arent even from.

Soceity continues to edge ever further to total collapse.

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t-shirts, flags...

a way to show the others which kind you are...

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Yes but why would show your allegiance to a genocidal cunt like Guevara. Its like supporting Robert Mugabe.

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I do not think the Che Guevara t-shirts holders want to show this aspect of the man.

If I wave a French flag, I do not want to show the others I am ok with nazi-like torture in Algeria, Vichy government which send Jews to concentration camps, Napoleonic wars...

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What other aspect is there? The man had anyone who disagreed with his ideas murdered. Sums it all up really!

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...I like them more than the current criminal leaders of states like Turkmenistan or Kirgisistan (german spelling)...

...the governement is criminal to their own people and the U.S. gov knows that, nevertheless they still support them because of their oil...

:nonono:

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It depends which side you are on... Every political leaders has blood on his hands... and if you are not ready to have some on your hands... then, no chance to become famous in history...

What makes me smile with Che Guevara is that he was communist and that a lot of capitalists earn money thanks to his picture. Funny trick of history, isn't it ?

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It's all about image, really. And if it shocks you (from their point of view), even better. The punks did it with the Nazi imagery (which they were probably not as ignorant of as these latter-day Guevara-heads are of their hero's legacy). :shrug:

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well firstly i would like 2 say that someone who is so concerned about these thousands of deaths has a display pic of a nuclear explosion in the shape of an up urs hand gesture, how ironic i must say.

in any revoloution blood must be spilt but this was a revoloution for good not jst another shitty war in the world taht has no reason and no good outcome so why not complain about one of them.

che guevara never targeted people for their race or religion only the opresssors of cuba unlike hitler who did target people for their religion so never ever compare the two again.

the main point is that the people of cuba and south america were forced to work for such pay in such conditions that they were in effect in the situation of a slave camp much like the gulags that stalin set up. che guevara set free an entire nation from this oppression so now he is worshipped in cuba.

i think the millions of people and generations since who hav benefitted from this revoloution is worth the lives of these people who died especially as they were supporting this slave labour like conditions.

i am proud whenever i wear my che guevara t-shirt and believa that people who accuse him are eithere facist or just ignorant

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well said.

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Like I said, it's more about shock than support of actual revolutionary ideals. And whether or not the revolution in Cuba was a positive or negative in world history (believe me, there's plenty that can be said for both viewpoints), most of the kids who wear these shirts couldn't tell you about what brought it about and what the results were. :shrug:

Plus, I think the relatives of Guevara's victims might have something to say about people embracing his image

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i am going to give a thumbs up to che. i am well read in history, and i believe that che and fidel overthrew a corupt government that did not support its people. the problem is communist rhetoric is only good for revolutions not sustainability.

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Taboo # 7 wrote: Like I said, it's more about shock than support of actual revolutionary ideals.

You live in one mightily conservative country if da yoot can get any shock value whatsoever for simply wearing a Che t-shirt!

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FrogChorus wrote: Let's bare in mind that most of these twats in t-shirts havn't got a fuckin clue who he is!

i totally fookin' agree with you there. these people where the shirt and does it not even know the story behind. they're bunch of sorry ass, wannabes, bandwagon, trend ass followers when it's not even cool. :nonono: :dunno: :dunno:

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He had some positive ideas, particularly those concerning empowerment to the working class and a united Latin America, which I as a Latin American take to heart.

However, I think he aligned himself with the wrong people (Castro, Stalin) and as a result did some regrettable things. I don't think of him as a hero considering he's responsible for many deaths. I wouldn't wear a shirt with his image on it. He had some interesting ideas, though.

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Fire-arm wrote: well firstly i would like 2 say that someone who is so concerned about these thousands of deaths has a display pic of a nuclear explosion in the shape of an up urs hand gesture, how ironic i must say.

in any revoloution blood must be spilt but this was a revoloution for good not jst another shitty war in the world taht has no reason and no good outcome so why not complain about one of them.

che guevara never targeted people for their race or religion only the opresssors of cuba unlike hitler who did target people for their religion so never ever compare the two again.

the main point is that the people of cuba and south america were forced to work for such pay in such conditions that they were in effect in the situation of a slave camp much like the gulags that stalin set up. che guevara set free an entire nation from this oppression so now he is worshipped in cuba.

i think the millions of people and generations since who hav benefitted from this revoloution is worth the lives of these people who died especially as they were supporting this slave labour like conditions.

i am proud whenever i wear my che guevara t-shirt and believa that people who accuse him are eithere facist or just ignorant

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What a load of complete bollocks. Although it does make me laugh sometimes when teenagers are taken in by it all.

However, you are right. Good old Che never did target people on grounds of race or religion, he was indiscriminate in his mass murder!

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I think (I wish I was wrong!) some people would wear t-sirts with stalin or other cunt on it if that was trendy. The point is to think using a head not a television.

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Uncle Liam wrote: What a cunt. In my eyes, this guy is up there with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Arafat and a bunch of other cunts.

It amazes me that I cannot go anywhere without seeing some twat wearing a t shirt with his image emblazoned on it. Why do people do this? And why do people worship someone who has

a) been dead for 39 years

b) responsible for setting up the first concentration camp in Cuba

and

c) responsible for the deaths of thousads of people.

The mind boggles. Truly it does.

Che Guevara t-shirts???? You just don't like students , do you Liam?????

:evil4:

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Liam, I'm sure you could come up with a long list of people who need putting up against a wall and shooting. Che's list was different to yours, but he was a left-wing idealist and you're a snotty little Tory.

I'm not wearing a Liam T-Shirt though :nono:

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Your not?

Damn it. You Should be!

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Alright I will. But it will be a fashion statement, in no way implying affinity with your politics or taste in music.

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Diamond White wrote: Liam, I'm sure you could come up with a long list of people who need putting up against a wall and shooting. Che's list was different to yours, but he was a left-wing idealist and you're a snotty little Tory.

I'm not wearing a Liam T-Shirt though :nono:

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Can I have 5 Liam T-shirts? One for me the Mrs,and each of the little boats...

Don't suppose they come in red,do they?:laugh:

Che Guevara was a bit of a rent-a-revolutionary was he not? An Argentinian who could'nt muster the support in his native land,so went to Cuba and became secretary of state under Castro,but got bored with the cushy life and went off fighting other causes,living in harsh circumstances along the way.He must have been sincere in his beliefs at least.Notable fellow...Hardly warrants a fuckin t-shirt in his honour mind:skeptic: Who's he think he is? Morrisey:evil4:

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Boatraceface wrote: Hardly warrants a fuckin t-shirt in his honour mind:skeptic: Who's he think he is? Morrisey:evil4:

Must be an early contender for Post of the Week :thumb:

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Surely the only REAL reason they wear them is because they have been watching re-runs of Citizen Smith?

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Is it the photo of the Stones fan in the Observer Music magazine that's got you wining about this?

Excellent article, whatever Hibster is about to say!

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Diamond White wrote: Is it the photo of the Stones fan in the Observer Music magazine that's got you wining about this?

Liam?! Reading the Observer?!

Nah, something doesn't quite add up there. :skeptic:

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snoozefest :sleep:

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J.A.K wrote: snoozefest :sleep:

This thread? The Stones article? Cuban politics?

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