john sluddens avatar

john - did you know that the underboob (technical term!) is considered a no go these days & has been banned from advertising?

there was an article about it in the observer on sunday

ridiculous eh?

she's hot.

Thanks for enlightening me on that matter Dave. I shall remove said item forthwith.

no, no, keep it as a campaign for, err, somehting or other, i'll get back to you on that!

hibster wrote: no, no, keep it as a campaign for, err, somehting or other, i'll get back to you on that!

I agree. She might want to change her top, mind.

Keep it, as a protest against Orwellian censorship!!

it wasn't orwellian censorship, it was underboob censorship

just in case he does change it.

The bigger image does nothing for her face...

Are we starting a thread for beautiful women yet?

I'm not a prudish person, but I don't think such avatars should be allowed on here....

TOP, TOP pic for yer avatar John........and the female's not too shabby either.......

Um, what's the problem exactly?

leather_girl wrote: I'm not a prudish person, but I don't think such avatars should be allowed on here....

Feeling a bit threatened are we? Never undertood the whole "offended" thing when it comes to women fully clothed.

JHC

Her chest looks fake...she looks like a classless tart, and she is chubby and not thin. Plus, she looks like she has a low IQ. If she pulled down her top and wore something instead of just underwear, it would be a better picture, but I don't think such pictures should be allowed for usage as individual's avatars... As I've said, I'm not exactly prudish on such matters, but what message are these straight men sending to women? That you have to look stupid and be half naked to be attractive? No wonder I loathe some straight men...at least half of them think that airhead bimbos are what women should look like.

I'm not implying that she is stupid per se, but I just don't think it's right for such pictures to be used as avatars on this site...it's a bit too racy. Plus, she needs to wear some clothing. Why do men ogle women who are half-naked? I don't ogle men who are half-naked.

There are simply too many men who think that women need to be half-naked to be attractive, and I loathe such men who think that way.

leather_girl wrote: I'm not implying that she is stupid per se, but I just don't think it's right for such pictures to be used as avatars on this site...it's a bit too racy. Plus, she needs to wear some clothing. Why do men ogle women who are half-naked? I don't ogle men who are half-naked.

There are simply too many men who think that women need to be half-naked to be attractive, and I loathe such men who think that way.

So you loathe all men! Give me a guy who says he would prefer a picture of a woman fully clothed showing no skin, than a picture showing a little and that guy is a LIAR! Sure we say those things, but it's not what we are really thinking.

JHC

68Pontiac wrote:

leather_girl wrote: I'm not implying that she is stupid per se, but I just don't think it's right for such pictures to be used as avatars on this site...it's a bit too racy. Plus, she needs to wear some clothing. Why do men ogle women who are half-naked? I don't ogle men who are half-naked.

There are simply too many men who think that women need to be half-naked to be attractive, and I loathe such men who think that way.

So you loathe all men! Give me a guy who says he would prefer a picture of a woman fully clothed showing no skin, than a picture showing a little and that guy is a LIAR! Sure we say those things, but it's not what we are really thinking.

JHC

As I've mentioned in a different thread, I loathe all sexist men. I like men who are not sexist. You don't hear about women thinking with their private parts when they look at men. But there are a lot of sexist men who think with their you-know-whats instead of their brains. I'm not saying it's wrong to wear revealing clothing, but it's just that I get the feeling that men who happen to be sexist only think a woman is attractive when a woman is half-naked. There's no denying that people find nudity to some extent attractive, but as I've said, sexist men think being half-naked is the only way for a woman to be attractive.

leather_girl wrote:

68Pontiac wrote:

leather_girl wrote: I'm not implying that she is stupid per se, but I just don't think it's right for such pictures to be used as avatars on this site...it's a bit too racy. Plus, she needs to wear some clothing. Why do men ogle women who are half-naked? I don't ogle men who are half-naked.

There are simply too many men who think that women need to be half-naked to be attractive, and I loathe such men who think that way.

So you loathe all men! Give me a guy who says he would prefer a picture of a woman fully clothed showing no skin, than a picture showing a little and that guy is a LIAR! Sure we say those things, but it's not what we are really thinking.

JHC

As I've mentioned in a different thread, I loathe all sexist men. I like men who are not sexist. You don't hear about women thinking with their private parts when they look at men. But there are a lot of sexist men who think with their you-know-whats instead of their brains. I'm not saying it's wrong to wear revealing clothing, but it's just that I get the feeling that men who happen to be sexist only think a woman is attractive when a woman is half-naked. There's no denying that people find nudity to some extent attractive, but as I've said, sexist men think being half-naked is the only way for a woman to be attractive.

honestly i find it very peculiar that all this stuff is coming from sombody who posts with a link to some of the sickest stuff i have read in a while. bit of a double standard here.

Sure, my website's in my profile, but, I've never encouraged anybody to go see it, neither have I personally posted anything from that site for people to see here.

NOOLigan wrote:

leather_girl wrote:

As I've mentioned in a different thread, I loathe all sexist men. I like men who are not sexist. You don't hear about women thinking with their private parts when they look at men. But there are a lot of sexist men who think with their you-know-whats instead of their brains. I'm not saying it's wrong to wear revealing clothing, but it's just that I get the feeling that men who happen to be sexist only think a woman is attractive when a woman is half-naked. There's no denying that people find nudity to some extent attractive, but as I've said, sexist men think being half-naked is the only way for a woman to be attractive.

honestly i find it very peculiar that all this stuff is coming from sombody who posts with a link to some of the sickest stuff i have read in a while. bit of a double standard here.

Also to note, LG you have come out and stated I am one of these sexists people, that thinks only with my meat and not with my brains. Also that I require women to be half naked to be attractive?

Kind of a broad assumption on your part. Could not your statements be seen as sexist?

JHC

leather_girl wrote:

68Pontiac wrote:

leather_girl wrote: I'm not implying that she is stupid per se, but I just don't think it's right for such pictures to be used as avatars on this site...it's a bit too racy. Plus, she needs to wear some clothing. Why do men ogle women who are half-naked? I don't ogle men who are half-naked.

There are simply too many men who think that women need to be half-naked to be attractive, and I loathe such men who think that way.

So you loathe all men! Give me a guy who says he would prefer a picture of a woman fully clothed showing no skin, than a picture showing a little and that guy is a LIAR! Sure we say those things, but it's not what we are really thinking.

JHC

As I've mentioned in a different thread, I loathe all sexist men. I like men who are not sexist. You don't hear about women thinking with their private parts when they look at men. But there are a lot of sexist men who think with their you-know-whats instead of their brains. I'm not saying it's wrong to wear revealing clothing, but it's just that I get the feeling that men who happen to be sexist only think a woman is attractive when a woman is half-naked. There's no denying that people find nudity to some extent attractive, but as I've said, sexist men think being half-naked is the only way for a woman to be attractive.

A bit strong Eimi! If you're implying that if you like a scantily clad picture of a woman,that you have no respect for women,you're way off the mark. To deny that males are attracted to a bit of flesh,they'd have to be completely prudish,whether they're gay OR straight. It's just a bit of fun,and seeing as New Order have always had a lad-rock air about them,highly likely you'll find a bit here. Personally,my girlfriend chooses what she wants to wear,but I won't force the Victorian smock on her at this point in time.

leather_girl wrote: I'm not a prudish person, but I don't think such avatars should be allowed on here....

i agree, any pictures of celtic tops should definitely not be allowed :)

those are some classy black underpants shes got there wal-mart special? 3 for the price of one pack of briefs.

the best bit is that inner bone thingio in the groinal region. tis boss that!

ooops sorry Leather kid.

:p

leather_girl wrote: Her chest looks fake...she looks like a classless tart, and she is chubby and not thin. Plus, she looks like she has a low IQ. If she pulled down her top and wore something instead of just underwear, it would be a better picture, but I don't think such pictures should be allowed for usage as individual's avatars... As I've said, I'm not exactly prudish on such matters, but what message are these straight men sending to women? That you have to look stupid and be half naked to be attractive? No wonder I loathe some straight men...at least half of them think that airhead bimbos are what women should look like.

Sorry, had enough of your crap. If you don't like it, ignore it. What is this "she looks chubby and not thin" (oh my god send in the body police) This is a website for New Order fans, not for narrow minded individuals to spout their politically correct crap and slag of men for fancying a good looking woman. It's just a laugh.

My god! Now I understand - one rule for one.

PS How the hell can you tell if someone has a low IQ with a pic like that - madness!!

Leather Girl, if New Order play in Japan, can we all stay at your house?

she would have to get a lock on her door, that would be of minimal cost. i dont see why not

BIGINBOLIVIA wrote: Leather Girl, if New Order play in Japan, can we all stay at your house?

Hmmm. Leathergirl takes it upon herself to speak for all women (albeit not those with low IQs, natch) and 68 Pontiac takes it upon himself to stand in as the voice of modern manhood.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Boys and Girls: we're all fucked.

You don't hear about women thinking with their private parts when they look at men.

You've obviously not heard about Missy Jem's porn collection!

leather_girl wrote: I'm not a prudish person, but I don't think such avatars should be allowed on here....

compromise!

MONTSTER HOUSE !! wrote:

You don't hear about women thinking with their private parts when they look at men.

You've obviously not heard about Missy Jem's porn collection!

Shhhh Monty that was a secret, i'm not lending you some now!!

Leather girl, why are you so offended? Pictures like these are everywhere you look, magazines, TV advertising, billboards, buses... I don't find that avatar the least bit offensive. If she was totally topless, then it might be a bit racy for an avatar, but it certainly wouldn't shock or offend me.

As for the model, if she's 'chubby not thin', then believe me i want to be chubby and not thin. So it's not alright for women to be half naked but it's ok for them to be thin??

I'd love you to meet a friend of mine who models lingerie in London. Her IQ is off the scale, so certainly doesn't conform to your stereotype.

Mary Whitehouse lives and breathes!

It's about time we had another thread about tits, isn't it? A combined favourite subject.

oldmonkey wrote: It's about time we had another thread about tits, isn't it? A combined favourite subject.

You did see my other thread on how they can actually save lives right?

JHC

TITS !!!!!!!!!!!!!

and some more...

OOOH WHAT A LOVELY PAIR!!

enjoy!

whoop whoop thats what im a-talkin about dammmmm tits i love little birdies, look at em in the snow. ooohhhh

68Pontiac wrote:

oldmonkey wrote: It's about time we had another thread about tits, isn't it? A combined favourite subject.

You did see my other thread on how they can actually save lives right?

JHC

Fookin' saved mine a few times!

We've got far too many tits around here and not enough breasts.

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: We've got far too many tits around here and not enough breasts.

Foreign F**kwitt wrote:

leather_girl wrote: I'm not a prudish person, but I don't think such avatars should be allowed on here....

compromise!

Never thought I'd see you say that, M! You'd make a great moderator, you know...

Snorri xxx

It strikes me that if you got rid of all the sluts, slags and cheap underwear around here there'd only be 68 Pontiac and Leathergirl left.

And we wouldn't want that, would we?

leather_girl wrote:

There are simply too many men who think that women need to be half-naked to be attractive, and I loathe such men who think that way.

i don't know anybody who thinks that women need to be half naked to be attractive

have you thought about trying the 21st century by the way? some of your views seem to pre date victorian attitudes

Monty Does Dallas wrote: TITS !!!!!!!!!!!!! enjoy!

Now you're talkin', Monty! How 'bout my favourite bird, the Bushtit!!

But you can't beat the Penduline tit, build fantastic nests;

(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote: It strikes me that if you got rid of all the sluts, slags and cheap underwear around here there'd only be 68 Pontiac and Leathergirl left.

And we wouldn't want that, would we?

Another asinine remark from an ass.....how suprising.

JHC

James Thomas wrote: But you can't beat the Penduline tit, build fantastic nests;

Jesus, he should branch out and start making Sheds...

Snorri xxx

pendulous tits...in action!

LG said:

As I've mentioned in a different thread, I loathe all sexist men. I like men who are not sexist. You don't hear about women thinking with their private parts when they look at men. But there are a lot of sexist men who think with their you-know-whats instead of their brains. I'm not saying it's wrong to wear revealing clothing, but it's just that I get the feeling that men who happen to be sexist only think a woman is attractive when a woman is half-naked. There's no denying that people find nudity to some extent attractive, but as I've said, sexist men think being half-naked is the only way for a woman to be attractive

I'm a staunch feminist, not to defend women, but because I want all people to be kind to each other. Women just happen to be the underdogs in too many areas so for now I think they need more support.

I think it is a mistake to attribute thoughts or beliefs, even ones that you consider good or right, to women purely based on their sex. Basing it on someone's gender is sexist. If we want to be treated with equal respect and equal value, we have to assert that women have opinions that span the whole spectrum. Women are not inherently better, or more moral, or immune from perving at a guy with his shirt off, half off even. Yes, women and men are different creatures but the point, to me, of being a feminist is to dispell the myth that one sex is better than the other and that one sex deserves greater power and respect than the other.

I think most men are able to find women attractive both clothed and unclothed, just as I do as a person who likes to look at beautiful things.

But no, i don't like your avatar either John because I hate that people have dumb jobs like that. As a society, we place too much emphasis on how we look. My five year old daughter thinks her head is the wrong shape. That makes me sad.

my three cents.

t

I'm a feminist too. But I also love the sight of tits. So I'm torn. Thankfully, I can wear many hats.

Tinny wrote: LG said:

As I've mentioned in a different thread, I loathe all sexist men. I like men who are not sexist. You don't hear about women thinking with their private parts when they look at men. But there are a lot of sexist men who think with their you-know-whats instead of their brains. I'm not saying it's wrong to wear revealing clothing, but it's just that I get the feeling that men who happen to be sexist only think a woman is attractive when a woman is half-naked. There's no denying that people find nudity to some extent attractive, but as I've said, sexist men think being half-naked is the only way for a woman to be attractive

I'm a staunch feminist, not to defend women, but because I want all people to be kind to each other. Women just happen to be the underdogs in too many areas so for now I think they need more support.

I think it is a mistake to attribute thoughts or beliefs, even ones that you consider good or right, to women purely based on their sex. Basing it on someone's gender is sexist. If we want to be treated with equal respect and equal value, we have to assert that women have opinions that span the whole spectrum. Women are not inherently better, or more moral, or immune from perving at a guy with his shirt off, half off even. Yes, women and men are different creatures but the point, to me, of being a feminist is to dispell the myth that one sex is better than the other and that one sex deserves greater power and respect than the other.

I think most men are able to find women attractive both clothed and unclothed, just as I do as a person who likes to look at beautiful things.

But no, i don't like your avatar either John because I hate that people have dumb jobs like that. As a society, we place too much emphasis on how we look. My five year old daughter thinks her head is the wrong shape. That makes me sad.

my three cents.

t

Well you being a strong feminist, we probably wouldn't last 10 minutes in a room together. However, I think your point is well written and I have to agree with you on this one.

JHC

68Pontiac wrote:

Well you being a strong feminist, we probably wouldn't last 10 minutes in a room together.

JHC

Yeah we could. I am very nice and very fun. I'm sure you can be too.

t

Tinny wrote:

Women just happen to be the underdogs in too many areas so for now I think they need more support.

t

That was my thoughts on seeing the Youtube link above. A visit to Marks and Sparks was definitely in order.

I'm a feminist too....

well you gotta be these days to get your end away.

I just love birds who can do me a nice cup of tea.

(and also change me bed sheets on a Sunday mornin).

Congratulations on the choice of avatar John..... nuff said.

J.A.K wrote: I just love birds who can do me a nice cup of tea.

(and also change me bed sheets on a Sunday mornin).

You forgot about dirtying up the sheets on Saturday night.

Well, I think the avator might just point out that John Sludden is probably suffering some sort of severe pre-midlife-crisis. And I think we should all pity him for that!

(and pray he doesn't feel the unresistable urge to share these problems with us again!)

I did not for one single second find John's avatar offensive. Don't know what the hell's gotten into other women on this site tho... What about Round $ Round video then? Bet they think of it as a true piece of art just cause it's New Order, which is slightly hypocritical if you ask me...

Wish there were more cool chicks like me

Foreign F**kwitt wrote: I did not for one single second find John's avatar offensive. Don't know what the hell's gotten into other women on this site tho... What about Round $ Round video then? Bet they think of it as a true piece of art just it's cause New Order, which is slightly hypocritical if you ask me...

Wish there were more cool chicks like me

Me too!!

[brown]Ally[/brown] wrote: What's an avator? Some sort of alien from Star Trek?

Certain "wimmin" on NOOL have been infected with Millie Tant-itis lately!

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

Foreign F**kwitt wrote:

Wish there were more cool chicks like me

you think you are COOL???

you're cooler than cool...

you're ICE COLD!!!

I'm offended by this remark

in case someone got me wrong; i'm not offended at all by john's avatar.. just can't get enough of this male-female "discussions". In fact I might be the greatest sexist of all, living under the assumption that the majority of the male population is only good for one thing. (which isn't money)

(or making cups of tea)

Foreign F**kwitt wrote:

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote:

Foreign F**kwitt wrote:

Wish there were more cool chicks like me

you think you are COOL???

you're cooler than cool...

you're ICE COLD!!!

I'm offended by this remark

Ice cold too warm and fluffy for you, M?

Snorri xxx

Someone like you wrote: in case someone got me wrong; i'm not offended at all by john's avatar.. just can't get enough of this male-female "discussions". In fact I might be the greatest sexist of all, living under the assumption that the majority of the male population is only good for one thing. (which isn't money)

(or making cups of tea)

You're my kind of bird. You mean I don't even have to fix your car?

of course that depends on how good you are at that one and only thing. I mean, you have to make the most of everyone's skills, don't you, otherwise so many men will be completely useless I'm afraid.

Someone like you wrote:

the majority of the male population is only good for one thing. (which isn't money)

(or making cups of tea)

um, squeezing the tube in the middle??

now that's a sexist remark!!

Someone like you wrote: of course that depends on how good you are at that one and only thing. I mean, you have to make the most of everyone's skills, don't you, otherwise so many men will be completely useless I'm afraid.

Well, it's a good thing you chicks haven't figured out how to procreate without our help!

Shellshocker wrote:

Someone like you wrote: of course that depends on how good you are at that one and only thing. I mean, you have to make the most of everyone's skills, don't you, otherwise so many men will be completely useless I'm afraid.

Well, it's a good thing you chicks haven't figured out how to procreate without our help!

oh, you call that helping these days?? Didn't get much help from a certain male person being around when I was giving birth years ago. (You men have a tendency to always pick the easiest jobs, eh?)

Just proves that I wasn't far of the mark when I said you were only good for..... oh, well: bedtime! Must go. Happy dreams, shellshocker..

Shellshocker wrote:

Someone like you wrote: in case someone got me wrong; i'm not offended at all by john's avatar.. (or making cups of tea)

You mean I don't even have to fix your car?

not sure what there is to be offended by. Ladies get whistled at when passing construction sites and that sort. Something would be very wrong in the State of Texas if it wasn't the case. Some people are very sexy. Different tastes. not necessarily translated from simple looks. Fitness.

Tea would be nice though.
EDIT TEXAS- JEFF. no, nothing is wrong in the State of Texas. But there might be if good looking Ladies weren't whistled at..

hibster wrote: john - did you know that the underboob (technical term!) is considered a no go these days & has been banned from advertising?

there was an article about it in the observer on sunday

ridiculous eh?

Geri thinks underboob sells.

Someone like you wrote:

Shellshocker wrote:

Someone like you wrote: of course that depends on how good you are at that one and only thing. I mean, you have to make the most of everyone's skills, don't you, otherwise so many men will be completely useless I'm afraid.

Well, it's a good thing you chicks haven't figured out how to procreate without our help!

oh, you call that helping these days?? Didn't get much help from a certain male person being around when I was giving birth years ago. (You men have a tendency to always pick the easiest jobs, eh?)

Just proves that I wasn't far of the mark when I said you were only good for..... oh, well: bedtime! Must go. Happy dreams, shellshocker..

Thanks, SLY. My dreams were happy. I dreamt of "helping" with giving birth...well, the part about making them, anyway.

frankly i'm beginning to get offended by the pope's avatar,or seeining atomic boy on every second page here. :D

forget about tits. we need more john thomases on this site!

AgentWood wrote: forget about tits. we need more john thomases on this site!

We have a James Thomas. Close enough?

His Holiness, The Pope wrote:

AgentWood wrote: forget about tits. we need more john thomases on this site!

We have a James Thomas. Close enough?

not unless james thomas unveils his john thomas.

There's a subtle difference between posting pics of professional actors/models/etc from the internet and posting pics of ourselves in undress.

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: There's a subtle difference between posting pics of professional actors/models/etc from the internet and posting pics of ourselves in undress.

and you, my dear, have crossed that line if you remember. ;)

AgentWood wrote:

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: There's a subtle difference between posting pics of professional actors/models/etc from the internet and posting pics of ourselves in undress.

and you, my dear, have crossed that line if you remember. ;)

I was young and I needed the money.

But I'd do it again. I have no shame.

Foreign F**kwitt wrote:

Someone like you wrote:

the majority of the male population is only good for one thing. (which isn't money)

(or making cups of tea)

um, squeezing the tube in the middle??

since when is that a male only trait?

AgentWood wrote:

His Holiness, The Pope wrote:

AgentWood wrote: forget about tits. we need more john thomases on this site!

We have a James Thomas. Close enough?

not unless james thomas unveils his john thomas.

I'm sure if you had asked him nicely in Liverpool...

lucyjane wrote:

AgentWood wrote:

His Holiness, The Pope wrote:

AgentWood wrote: forget about tits. we need more john thomases on this site!

We have a James Thomas. Close enough?

not unless james thomas unveils his john thomas.

I'm sure if you had asked him nicely in Liverpool...

You don't even have to ask him nicely, believe me!

lucyjane wrote:

AgentWood wrote:

His Holiness, The Pope wrote:

AgentWood wrote: forget about tits. we need more john thomases on this site!

We have a James Thomas. Close enough?

not unless james thomas unveils his john thomas.

I'm sure if you had asked him nicely in Liverpool...

now you tell me.

James Thomas wrote:

a bit thin, aren't you?

Well, the JT X-ray killed this thread didn't it? Or was it just talking about JT rather than underboob?

Foreign F**kwitt wrote:

Wish there were more cool chicks like me

Cough Cough

Missy Jem wrote:

Foreign F**kwitt wrote:

Wish there were more cool chicks like me

Cough Cough