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EdelBrock wrote: Comrade,

So these are YOUR concerns with a Democrate veiwpoint. Some of them are real concerns we need to keep an eye on, but most are media/politically driven.

Speaking as an outside observor ( of the entire human race), I must say that the reliable reports I have read over the last few months would strongly suggest that Comrade's concerns are more than valid. Of course some will manipulate the various situations, but not everything that folks make political bluster over is fake at it's core (like for instance the collective term "Al Quaeda", which is an invention of the US Govt. ( the name, not the organisation (probably) [1] ).

The voting machine thing in particular should enrage every American surely? If democaracy and voting are so utterly key to the apple pie way of life, shouldn't the tiniest sniff of a hint that something might be less that 100% perfect 100% of the time, drive the entire nation into a frenzy?

Y'all need to get yer heads round this.....what winds us about about Yous'uns is things like the above, and things like the list of "republican" beliefs I posted. It's the bizarre double standards, the unbelievable self-centredness ( of the nation, not any individual here I mean)...and frankly, that you o not live up to your own hype. The US media pumps out borderline propaganda with the whole "truth, justice, and the American Way" malarky. We are raised on this shite....me less so than most, having always favour British TV shows, even when I was a kid[2], when we later find out that the US, in addtion to the occassional great service to mankind, does actually do really evil shit too, within and without......it pisses us off. From then on, hearing US rhetoric is painful, upsetting, and infuriating.

No one hates you cos you're free :lol: we hate You cos you keep telling us how free you are while slowly deteriorating into late 1930's Germany. Oddly though, it's the mass,the shapeless throng, that we hate, I have not met any Americans I wanted to throttle, I've never met any online here either (few fckers on Linux anf F1 boards I heavily disliked).

Maybe I am speaking only for myself in this, but it's how I see it....the national hypocracy is what drives us nuts.....that and the fucked up things that happen there of course, but I'm willing to put that own to the sanity bell curve being very widebottomed with such a large population.....no actually...you actually do have a mathematically significant over proportion of fucking LOONS.

Ultimately you need to act like what you are. You're a rich, powerful, and relatively well educated nation, in fact the richest and most powerful. So why not act like a big brother ( not THAT BB FFS!), instead of the school bully..taking everyone's lunch money and telling lies about people. More Apollo Less Armageddon please.

Jeff is a cunt tho :thumb:

[1]Source "The power of nightmares" BBC TV [2] Not saying I never watched US shows, I loved things like Star trek an Salvage One ( remember that?)...but unlike many of my contemporaries, I neer got The A-team, or He-Man, or The Fall Guy, they bored me stupid.

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(The Good Doctor) Martin Fradley wrote: Feeling amorous today, Col??!!

Or six foot deep in shit and looking for something to dig with. :evil4:

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I just thought it would be a nice thing to say.

I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition

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nobody....

etc.

:thumb:

So....BTW....what's your verdict on that bint in Torchwood, a pudgey Welsh Jemma or what?

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Doctor? wrote: nobody....

etc.

:thumb:

So....BTW....what's your verdict on that bint in Torchwood, a pudgey Welsh Jemma or what?

I'd give 'er one. Welsh accent does it for me. Series is a bit shit though.

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not THAT bad. The Seppo's will wank for it I reckon, a Brit show with total Us production values...and a Yank, in CHARGE no less.

you've more chance with whatssherwelshface than our Jem matey :lol:

EDIT: not fuckin wrong about the accent though :thumb:

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I honestly don't get this anti Americanism that sometimes raises its ugly head here. sure we can disagree with their government's politics. i know i do, as do most the American who post here.

there are loads of threads that mean bugger all to people outside the UK, yet you don't see any the English are cunts threads. let them be happy that the forces of evil have had a setback.

In case you hadn't noticed this is an international site, well if you want to get particular a north American site.

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Doctor? wrote: Speaking as an outside observor ( of the entire human race), I must say that the reliable reports I have read over the last few months would strongly suggest that Comrade's concerns are more than valid...

I found this long speech very interesting. I do not agree with it enterily but at least 3/4 of it is truth. Not another country promotes itself like the USA do, so I find normal that they got sometimes a bad feedback.

If find also quite crazy the numbers of threads that have been written about these US elections so far. If I well remember : Canadian ones - 1 thread made by Nicolas (almost embarrassed to spam BCD with the political life of his country) German ones - 1 thread. I do not know if Bere wrote it, but only one even if the results were tought. British ones - a few more, but well, BCD mainly belongs to Brits and Americans. Nothing upon the Italian ones - but it was worth to get rid of Berlusconi... Polish ones - thank you Arek (our Warsaw nooler) to enlighten us about the politics of your country... Next year will be the Presidential election in my country. I bet no-one will speak about it. And if I am the one to do it, I will surely feel as a one of the most boring nooler on this board...

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It's no good to just object to something that's been said, you have to come up with evidence to disprove the statement.

So far nobody has come up with any sort of response to the statement that Americans are a bunch of fannies.

Does this mean I put on 40lbs?

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Diamond White wrote: It's no good to just object to something that's been said, you have to come up with evidence to disprove the statement.

So far nobody has come up with any sort of response to the statement that Americans are a bunch of fannies.

Does this mean I put on 40lbs?

ok. i know Americans. one of my bosses is an American, some of my friends are American, heck even some of my family are. all great people.

of course there are cunts everywhere.

i recommend a holiday over there. they are some of the friendliest most helpful people you'll ever run into.

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NOOLigan wrote:

Diamond White wrote: It's no good to just object to something that's been said, you have to come up with evidence to disprove the statement.

So far nobody has come up with any sort of response to the statement that Americans are a bunch of fannies.

Does this mean I put on 40lbs?

i recommend a holiday over there. they are some of the friendliest most helpful people you'll ever run into.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You've never been to NYC then?

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GlasVegas wrote:

NOOLigan wrote:

Diamond White wrote: It's no good to just object to something that's been said, you have to come up with evidence to disprove the statement.

So far nobody has come up with any sort of response to the statement that Americans are a bunch of fannies.

Does this mean I put on 40lbs?

i recommend a holiday over there. they are some of the friendliest most helpful people you'll ever run into.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You've never been to NYC then?

even there.

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The answer is yes!

:nuts:

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Jiphy wrote:

Doctor? wrote: Speaking as an outside observor ( of the entire human race), I must say that the reliable reports I have read over the last few months would strongly suggest that Comrade's concerns are more than valid...

I found this long speech very interesting. I do not agree with it enterily but at least 3/4 of it is truth. Not another country promotes itself like the USA do, so I find normal that they got sometimes a bad feedback.

If find also quite crazy the numbers of threads that have been written about these US elections so far. If I well remember : Canadian ones - 1 thread made by Nicolas (almost embarrassed to spam BCD with the political life of his country) German ones - 1 thread. I do not know if Bere wrote it, but only one even if the results were tought. British ones - a few more, but well, BCD mainly belongs to Brits and Americans. Nothing upon the Italian ones - but it was worth to get rid of Berlusconi... Polish ones - thank you Arek (our Warsaw nooler) to enlighten us about the politics of your country... Next year will be the Presidential election in my country. I bet no-one will speak about it. And if I am the one to do it, I will surely feel as a one of the most boring nooler on this board...

He we have an election 22 november. Prior to the previous election, 4 years ago, a politician was shot dead here. Any of you remember that or even his name? We don't have presidents although he would have liked to have been one. Things have changed the last few years over here. So we should care I guess.

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NOOLigan wrote:

GlasVegas wrote:

NOOLigan wrote:

Diamond White wrote: It's no good to just object to something that's been said, you have to come up with evidence to disprove the statement.

So far nobody has come up with any sort of response to the statement that Americans are a bunch of fannies.

Does this mean I put on 40lbs?

i recommend a holiday over there. they are some of the friendliest most helpful people you'll ever run into.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You've never been to NYC then?

even there.

B.O.L.L.O.C.K.S.

World renowned for being the rudest cunts in the world. Even worse than London Underground stuff who are uber-cunts.

If your experience of America is a two week holiday in Florida or Vegas then I can see how you might come to that conclusion but to describe "Americans" (whatever that's supposed to mean, it's a big place you know) as "the most helpful people you'll ever bump into" is fucking preposterous.

:nod: :nod: :nod:

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PCLike wrote: He we have an election 22 november. Prior to the previous election, 4 years ago, a politician was shot dead here. Any of you remember that or even his name? We don't have presidents although he would have liked to have been one. Things have changed the last few years over here. So we should care I guess.

Wim Kok ?

Sorry if it is not him, just a memory...

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PCLike wrote:

Jiphy wrote:

Doctor? wrote: Speaking as an outside observor ( of the entire human race), I must say that the reliable reports I have read over the last few months would strongly suggest that Comrade's concerns are more than valid...

I found this long speech very interesting. I do not agree with it enterily but at least 3/4 of it is truth. Not another country promotes itself like the USA do, so I find normal that they got sometimes a bad feedback.

If find also quite crazy the numbers of threads that have been written about these US elections so far. If I well remember : Canadian ones - 1 thread made by Nicolas (almost embarrassed to spam BCD with the political life of his country) German ones - 1 thread. I do not know if Bere wrote it, but only one even if the results were tought. British ones - a few more, but well, BCD mainly belongs to Brits and Americans. Nothing upon the Italian ones - but it was worth to get rid of Berlusconi... Polish ones - thank you Arek (our Warsaw nooler) to enlighten us about the politics of your country... Next year will be the Presidential election in my country. I bet no-one will speak about it. And if I am the one to do it, I will surely feel as a one of the most boring nooler on this board...

He we have an election 22 november. Prior to the previous election, 4 years ago, a politician was shot dead here. Any of you remember that or even his name? We don't have presidents although he would have liked to have been one. Things have changed the last few years over here. So we should care I guess.

I know this is going to come off wrong, but what impact does a netherlands or french president have on world politics? Not much, which is why it's in the news less.....I think.

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Doctor? wrote: Speaking as an outside observor ( of the entire human race), I must say that the reliable reports I have read over the last few months would strongly suggest that Comrade's concerns are more than valid. Of course some will manipulate the various situations, but not everything that folks make political bluster over is fake at it's core (like for instance the collective term "Al Quaeda", which is an invention of the US Govt. ( the name, not the organisation (probably) [1] ).

The voting machine thing in particular should enrage every American surely? If democaracy and voting are so utterly key to the apple pie way of life, shouldn't the tiniest sniff of a hint that something might be less that 100% perfect 100% of the time, drive the entire nation into a frenzy?

Y'all need to get yer heads round this.....what winds us about about Yous'uns is things like the above, and things like the list of "republican" beliefs I posted. It's the bizarre double standards, the unbelievable self-centredness ( of the nation, not any individual here I mean)...and frankly, that you o not live up to your own hype. The US media pumps out borderline propaganda with the whole "truth, justice, and the American Way" malarky. We are raised on this shite....me less so than most, having always favour British TV shows, even when I was a kid[2], when we later find out that the US, in addtion to the occassional great service to mankind, does actually do really evil shit too, within and without......it pisses us off. From then on, hearing US rhetoric is painful, upsetting, and infuriating.

No one hates you cos you're free :lol: we hate You cos you keep telling us how free you are while slowly deteriorating into late 1930's Germany. Oddly though, it's the mass,the shapeless throng, that we hate, I have not met any Americans I wanted to throttle, I've never met any online here either (few fckers on Linux anf F1 boards I heavily disliked).

Maybe I am speaking only for myself in this, but it's how I see it....the national hypocracy is what drives us nuts.....that and the fucked up things that happen there of course, but I'm willing to put that own to the sanity bell curve being very widebottomed with such a large population.....no actually...you actually do have a mathematically significant over proportion of fucking LOONS.

Ultimately you need to act like what you are. You're a rich, powerful, and relatively well educated nation, in fact the richest and most powerful. So why not act like a big brother ( not THAT BB FFS!), instead of the school bully..taking everyone's lunch money and telling lies about people. More Apollo Less Armageddon please.

I can see your points. Not to say I agree with them, but I think they are valid. What it boils down to, I think is that our media is out of control. One of the big differences from the US and many other countries is that we air our laundry out to EVERYONE, and nothing is held back...even assumptions which may not be true. This does nothing good for our image as a country. Don't get me wrong, I'm not asking to cover up stories, but rather the media take more thought in the impact it will have in its aftermath.

One of the differences with the US vs other countries is that it was built on ideas that aren't tangible. I think this comes off as a foriegn idea to many countries.

Anther problem is that we are, for the most part, a secluded country. When people go to vacation, they mainly stay within the US and don't travel and see other cultures. This has been good in keeping our self-image, but bad in understanding how to play well with the other kids out there.

In the end though, no offense taken by your post...a quite informative one that gives me a better understanding.....at least it explains more than just the "US are cunts" phrase.

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EdelBrock wrote:

PCLike wrote:

Jiphy wrote:

Doctor? wrote: Speaking as an outside observor ( of the entire human race), I must say that the reliable reports I have read over the last few months would strongly suggest that Comrade's concerns are more than valid...

I found this long speech very interesting. I do not agree with it enterily but at least 3/4 of it is truth. Not another country promotes itself like the USA do, so I find normal that they got sometimes a bad feedback.

If find also quite crazy the numbers of threads that have been written about these US elections so far. If I well remember : Canadian ones - 1 thread made by Nicolas (almost embarrassed to spam BCD with the political life of his country) German ones - 1 thread. I do not know if Bere wrote it, but only one even if the results were tought. British ones - a few more, but well, BCD mainly belongs to Brits and Americans. Nothing upon the Italian ones - but it was worth to get rid of Berlusconi... Polish ones - thank you Arek (our Warsaw nooler) to enlighten us about the politics of your country... Next year will be the Presidential election in my country. I bet no-one will speak about it. And if I am the one to do it, I will surely feel as a one of the most boring nooler on this board...

He we have an election 22 november. Prior to the previous election, 4 years ago, a politician was shot dead here. Any of you remember that or even his name? We don't have presidents although he would have liked to have been one. Things have changed the last few years over here. So we should care I guess.

I know this is going to come off wrong, but what impact does a netherlands or french president have on world politics? Not much, which is why it's in the news less.....I think.

Your missing the point. Each election is very relevant to the people who live in that country. Why is it that only the American posters on this board feel the need to spam it with 8 different threads on the same subject. Some people might conclude that it's indicative of their arrogance and inability to grasp the fact that there is a whole other place out there called the "rest of the world" where most people couldn't care less about what goes on at your elections.

You aint relegating our football threads and tales of drink and drug abuse to the lower half of BCD Soldier Boy. Not on my watch ;)

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GlasVegas wrote:

Your missing the point. Each election is very relevant to the people who live in that country. Why is it that only the American posters on this board feel the need to spam it with 8 different threads on the same subject. Some people might conclude that it's indicative of their arrogance and inability to grasp the fact that there is a whole other place out there called the "rest of the world" where most people couldn't care less about what goes on at your elections.

You aint relegating our football threads and tales of drink and drug abuse to the lower half of BCD Soldier Boy. Not on my watch ;)

Given, 8 posts was a bit much for me as well, and I did not start any of them. One for the elections and one for Rumsfeld standing down would have been appropriate though.

Never seen any football threads, since when has anyone talked about the Chargers, 49ers, or Cowboys here? Have seen a bunch of threads on that faggoty sport of soccer though!:smoking:

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I think the point about American elections being "more important" than elections in other countries contains a hint of truth, given America's self-appointed role as policer of the "Free/Capitalist World" (to which everyone else is made to follow lock-step). With America trampling across the globe on its little neocolonialist ventures, this week's election is very significant because the power relations have shifted for the first time in 12 years and...wait for it...America might actually start behaving itself better on the global stage. Maybe. Just maybe. So perhaps instead of whining about all the election threads, the rest of you might want to take things with a grain of optimism. But we shall see how the next few years pan out....

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EdelBrock wrote: I know this is going to come off wrong, but what impact does a netherlands or french president have on world politics? Not much, which is why it's in the news less.....I think.

When a French president do not say "amen" to American policy (Irak's invasion for an example), the country is almost listed on the list of the "axis of the evil"... and products are boycotted etc, etc...

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His Holiness, The Pope wrote: America might actually start behaving itself better on the global stage. Maybe. Just maybe. So perhaps instead of whining about all the election threads, the rest of you might want to take things with a grain of optimism. But we shall see how the next few years pan out....

OK. Everyone looks what happens in the USA. I do not know how it goes in Kazakhstan, but here, you cannot switch on a radio or a TV without being aware of the US elections... So, in my opinion, one thread could have been an option... well three maybe... one for the Democrats, one for the Republicans and one for the "my vote depends on my mood"...

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EdelBrock wrote: I know this is going to come off wrong, but what impact does a netherlands or french president have on world politics? Not much, which is why it's in the news less.....I think.

Do not take it wrong, but the Dutch have a Queen...

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GlasVegas wrote:

NOOLigan wrote:

GlasVegas wrote:

NOOLigan wrote:

Diamond White wrote: It's no good to just object to something that's been said, you have to come up with evidence to disprove the statement.

So far nobody has come up with any sort of response to the statement that Americans are a bunch of fannies.

Does this mean I put on 40lbs?

i recommend a holiday over there. they are some of the friendliest most helpful people you'll ever run into.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You've never been to NYC then?

even there.

B.O.L.L.O.C.K.S.

World renowned for being the rudest cunts in the world. Even worse than London Underground stuff who are uber-cunts.

If your experience of America is a two week holiday in Florida or Vegas then I can see how you might come to that conclusion but to describe "Americans" (whatever that's supposed to mean, it's a big place you know) as "the most helpful people you'll ever bump into" is fucking preposterous.

:nod: :nod: :nod:

been in ny with barely any english some years back. i stand by my statement.

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Jiphy wrote:

EdelBrock wrote: I know this is going to come off wrong, but what impact does a netherlands or french president have on world politics? Not much, which is why it's in the news less.....I think.

Do not take it wrong, but the Dutch have a Queen...

Their president is gay!!!!!????? I guess hanging around windmills with wooden shoes would force someone to bat for the other team.:laugh:

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EdelBrock wrote: I guess hanging around windmills with wooden shoes would force someone to bat for the other team.:laugh:

There is nothing gay about hanging around windmills. I'll have you know.

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PCLike wrote: He we have an election 22 november. Prior to the previous election, 4 years ago, a politician was shot dead here. Any of you remember that or even his name?

Pim something or other, conservative, gay, anti-immigrant. That's all I remember without cheating.... :shrug:

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