Drugs Question — Forum Archive

11 Feb 2007, 19:09

I very much doubt cancer patients (undergoing chemotherapy), glaucoma, and MS sufferers (to name but a few) would find any benifit from consuming alcohol, many do however find great benifit from hash.

Worldwide how many documented cases have their ever been of anyone dying from marijuana: NONE! How many documented cases have there been of alcohol causing death? BILLIONS!

ps please name 1 way in which the demon drink is beneficial, cause it escapes me how addiction, poverty, and death are beneficial.

11 Feb 2007, 19:23

some of the effects of long term dope usage.

Long-term users may experience additional effects Cannabis may also have additional effects on long-term users, including: • The risk of asthma, emphysema, shortness of breath, chest infections, and throat, mouth and lung cancers • Poor concentration, memory loss and learning difficulties • Depression of the immune system, which increases the risk of developing infections • Serious mental illness, such as schizophrenia

http://http://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/bhcv2/bhcarticles.nsf/pages/Cannabis_marijuana?OpenDocument

11 Feb 2007, 19:37

None of which disproves the fact that alcohol is a VASTLY more dangerous drug than marijuana.

(Indeed much of the data of these studies has been discredited. I'll be back with a full & frank answer to this just gotta find something 1st (so you don't have to take my opinion on it)........

This may take a while :drug: ... (I wish)!

11 Feb 2007, 19:43

I’m not pushing any particular barrow here. I just want to see the debate progress in an objective manner

11 Feb 2007, 20:16

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/mg18524851.200-cannabis-prescribing-the-miracle-weed.html http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6283-cannabis-extract-shrinks-brain-tumours.html http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg15320732.500-turn-on-tune-in-get-well--marijuana-as-medicine-toughondrugs-america-is-finally-coming-round-tothe-idea-that-the-evil-weed-might-do-some-patients-a-power-of-good.html

Can't find the report I was reading last night, from a respected scientific, journal saying hash smokers are at lower risk of cancer than tobacco smokers (I'll post it when I find it). ps Do you really consider Governments (and Labs/scientists funded by them) that outlaw marijuana to be objective? pps this is nowhere near a full reply, but as it's 4:19am on a Sun morning here it can wait till tomorrow.

11 Feb 2007, 20:27

don't you mean monday morning. lol

11 Feb 2007, 20:50

MIMX wrote:

Spotnick wrote: Anybody who got surgery kind of like morphein ;)

ps it's "morphine" (& it's most common form derivative being of course heroin [diacetylmorphine] and not as I've often seen it "heroine").:)

Sorry, I should have known it had the same spelling as in french... I took a guess.

11 Feb 2007, 20:51

MIMX wrote: Common misconception, weed (hash/grass/blaw etc) are not legal in Amsterdam. If you have less than 100 grams on your person (for personal use) you will not be prosecuted; any more and there is the possibility of being charged with intent to supply (or mere possession). Hash (solid) & grass have only been decriminalised, there is a difference, and not just technical, between this and legal. Certain coffee shops etc are given a licence to be able to sell it. But it is still illegal, yes it is a strange state of affairs. But it is certainly better than allowing the real killer drugs tobacco and alcohol to be legal while outlawing such a harmless, and often beneficial drug as marijuana.

In Canada, it almost became "legal" in 2005... instead they would give you a fine... but of course our southern neighbours starting to be pissed... and it never went through...

11 Feb 2007, 20:53

MIMX wrote: None of which disproves the fact that alcohol is a VASTLY more dangerous drug than marijuana.

(Indeed much of the data of these studies has been discredited. I'll be back with a full & frank answer to this just gotta find something 1st (so you don't have to take my opinion on it)........

This may take a while ... (I wish)!

All depends of quantity and frequency really.

Red wine is good for your heart... but one glass a day :p

11 Feb 2007, 20:57

NOOLigan wrote: don't you mean monday morning. lol

Exactly, & I've just nodded off for about 20mins there. Way past my bedtime!

Spotnick wrote: Sorry, I should have known it had the same spelling as in french... I took a guess.

Don't worry about it mate, my 1st language is meant to be English (well Scots), and the only reason I seem to be able to spell is thanks to "Sage" and a spell checker.

Anyway night (morning) all.