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Nine of us are off to Belgrade at the weekend - can't wait.

As well as the normal look around this excellent city, we plan to attend Red Star vs Partisan at Red Star's ground.

Someone from Red Star marketing has been on the phone today, making arrangements for welcoming us - it's rare for them to have foreign visitors, aparently. This came as a great surprise to me - Red Star are a famous club and the Belgrade Derby is renowned for being one of the worlds great fixtures.

They're going to do a feature on us for the magazine, which should be quite a nice momento of our trip (providing one of us remembers to go back a fortnight later to buy a few copies).

Belgrade is in the middle of a techno-wave at the moment and there are supposed to be some excellent clubs.

A full report may be posted here on our return.

:viking:

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BIGINOIL wrote:

Someone from Red Star marketing has been on the phone today, making arrangements for welcoming us

... and who's responsible for all that eh? WHO IS?? :p

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Oops, I meant to say that the wonderful NOBabe has done fabulous work sorting out our hotels, giving advice and putting us in touch with the Red Star people.

That's why I started the thread, to thank NOBabe for all her work.

So all of you that say she's a stupid foreign gimp with no manners or brains can take it all back. She's our friend and that's that.

(as long as she's not fucked up the hotel bookings, of course)

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:laugh:

The receptionist at the hotel asked for my phone number so I gave him my serbian number but haven't switched it on since oops

:crazy:

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I'm sure it will be fine.

Many thanks NOBoobs :thumb:

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Anytime, Biginfoil :thumb:

edit: say Hi to that Cheesy fucktard

:shades:

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Please now leave this thread clear for people who can be arsed to go, and any posts praising and wishing us well for our mission.

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Will you eat burek in Belgrade?

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BIGINOIL wrote: Please now leave this thread clear for people who can be arsed to go, and any posts praising and wishing us well for our mission.

Absolutely.

Can I just be the first to say, if you should end up in any trouble with the local law enforcement over there.....

.....don't contact any of us for bail money or character references :)

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I'm not putting any of that shit in my mouth - it's awful.

I hope to go to ? though. It's fabulous there.

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I don't think it's the law we have to be worried about.

But if there's trouble to be had, I'm sure we'll find it!

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I'll ask my brother to buy that Red Star Magazine for you

He should be over here in April anyway

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Have a good un dudes and don't forget to eat loads of Burek:nod:

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Maya :bow:

All my mates think we're gonna die :eek3:

Gotta be safer than an Italian game I've told them :shrug:

North stand tickets ?? :viking:

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No. The North stand is for the proper fans, South for the visitors. West is the best for us. I think he said East is for the families.

We'll be safe as long as nobody starts waving a Luton scarf around.

Or, for that matter, a bloody Stoke flag :uhoh:

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BIGINOIL wrote: We'll be safe as long as nobody starts waving a Luton scarf around.

Even *I* don't know anyone who owns a Luton scarf. And I actually support the Mighty 'Ats.

My one Red Star friend has already said we're gonna get killed.

Nice. :nod:

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Wish I was going now. Enjoy it ya bast's :viking: :beer: :blackeye:

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Oh now you've heard we're all going to die, you want to come.

Fair weather friend :nod:

In case the worst happens I hereby state that Jemma can keep her fingers off my records.

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Stop Press: Just heard that the Red Star baketball team are playing on Sat night.

We've been offered tickets - anyone interested?

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:clap:nice trip

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BIGINOIL wrote:

In case the worst happens I hereby state that Jemma can keep her fingers off my records.

:finger:

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Good news - we're off to the basketball now as well.

And the footie kick-off has been put BACK by half an hour for safety reasons.

What's that all about then?

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Just hop into a taxi (presumably you're still alive after the footy) and say PIONIR (or write it down even) cause that's where the basketball takes place

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We can still hop if we have only one broken leg!

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HAVE FUN:nod: :wink:

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Red Star Belgrade, otherwise known as Crvena Zvezda, isn't it?

Japan's Takayuki Suzuki used to play there, for one year, and their president, Dragan Stojkovic used to play at Nagoya Grampus Eight from 1994 to 2001.

Also, the Japanese team JEF United Ichihara Chiba (my favourite team) recently signed Nenad Djordjevic, who used to play for Partizan. :read:

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Very brief report: One of the best days out I've had. Despite the sub-zero temperatures, the atmosphere in the ground was nothing short of electric. Chaos reigned at certain points in the game, but order was generally maintained just enough to hold a footbal match.

Man of the match for me was the Partisan player who celebrated the second goal by stealing the corner flag and hurling it into his own fans, then running around with a flare that had been thrown onto the pitch. Amazing. At the final whistle (which signalled an impressive win by the visitors) the whole Partisan team ran to their fans, threw their shirts and shorts at their fans, then posed for team photos in their underpants.

Both sets of fans, and particularly Red Star's Delija, are trully impressive. Not just for the massive noise levels, flares, bangers and other fireworks, but also for the huge amount of organisation and discipline that must go into their antics. Dozens of banners are unfurled, one at a time (obscuring the view of about half of them, in some cases), held aloft for long enough for everyone to read them, then folded away for next week. The Delija produce a Partisan banner and set it alight. Suddenly everyone is holding a scarf aloft then, as one, put them away. The Partisan boys link arms and turn their backs to the crowd. The Deliga produce a banner bearing the names of all the European teams they've beaten (up?) It's really really impressive to see.

The walk away from the ground was a little more traumatic, especially when we found ourselves in the middle of a bit of good-natured rock-throwing. It was all over in a couple of minutes and the very well-equipped riot police seemed to get on top of things quite quickly.

The list of friends of FAC383 has grown on this trip - Red Star Marketing treated us like lords; insisting on giving us expensive scotch at 11am, giving us the tour of the ground and trophy room and getting us into the sold-out basketball game in the evening (which Red Star won). Bane the photographer was an absolute star, despite making an awful job of putting a brave face on the absolutely disasterous football result ("Colin, I feel like shit!"). Away from the football, we fell into the company of a great crowd of lads in a local bar who took us to a nightclub that we would never have found and certinaly wouldn't have got into and made us feel very safe and welcome until the early hours. Twice.

Special Viking mentions: Gordy for not remembering how he got his breakfast (as he was still eating it), Roy for always finishing his breakfast and anyone who made it to the airport in time for this morning's flights. Oh, and me for the worst bank job in history.

Me and the Glasgow lads have one more day in Belgrade, and intend to spend it very quietly. I've caught a nasty hangover and will not be drinking again. Ever.

So, who's coming next year?

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And of course, Maya for helping so much with all the preparations.

Cheers NoBabe :thumb:

Next year you're coming with us :nod:

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You went to that derby match and didn't get in a fight?

Jessies.

Glad to hear yer all still alive though :viking:

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BIGINOIL wrote: Very brief report: One of the best days out I've had. Despite the sub-zero temperatures, the atmosphere in the ground was nothing short of electric. Chaos reigned at certain points in the game, but order was generally maintained just enough to hold a footbal match.

Man of the match for me was the Partisan player who celebrated the second goal by stealing the corner flag and hurling it into his own fans, then running around with a flare that had been thrown onto the pitch. Amazing. At the final whistle (which signalled an impressive win by the visitors) the whole Partisan team ran to their fans, threw their shirts and shorts at their fans, then posed for team photos in their underpants.

Both sets of fans, and particularly Red Star's Delija, are trully impressive. Not just for the massive noise levels, flares, bangers and other fireworks, but also for the huge amount of organisation and discipline that must go into their antics. Dozens of banners are unfurled, one at a time (obscuring the view of about half of them, in some cases), held aloft for long enough for everyone to read them, then folded away for next week. The Delija produce a Partisan banner and set it alight. Suddenly everyone is holding a scarf aloft then, as one, put them away. The Partisan boys link arms and turn their backs to the crowd. The Deliga produce a banner bearing the names of all the European teams they've beaten (up?) It's really really impressive to see.

The walk away from the ground was a little more traumatic, especially when we found ourselves in the middle of a bit of good-natured rock-throwing. It was all over in a couple of minutes and the very well-equipped riot police seemed to get on top of things quite quickly.

The list of friends of FAC383 has grown on this trip - Red Star Marketing treated us like lords; insisting on giving us expensive scotch at 11am, giving us the tour of the ground and trophy room and getting us into the sold-out basketball game in the evening (which Red Star won). Bane the photographer was an absolute star, despite making an awful job of putting a brave face on the absolutely disasterous football result ("Colin, I feel like shit!"). Away from the football, we fell into the company of a great crowd of lads in a local bar who took us to a nightclub that we would never have found and certinaly wouldn't have got into and made us feel very safe and welcome until the early hours. Twice.

Special Viking mentions: Gordy for not remembering how he got his breakfast (as he was still eating it), Roy for always finishing his breakfast and anyone who made it to the airport in time for this morning's flights. Oh, and me for the worst bank job in history.

Me and the Glasgow lads have one more day in Belgrade, and intend to spend it very quietly. I've caught a nasty hangover and will not be drinking again. Ever.

So, who's coming next year?

Im not impressed. Football violence is neither big nor clever

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it all sounds fucking ace :nod:

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Sounds like you chaps had a great time.

I thourght I was brave going to Saints away at Stoke in a couple of weeks time !

:bow:

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You're very welcome, Big

Glad you enjoyed it and.............. Bane, OMG! :laugh: Hope he didn't reveale my serbian nickname to you, ha ha :p

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Shug Sludden wrote: You went to that derby match and didn't get in a fight?

Jessies.

Glad to hear yer all still alive though :viking:

I take it that means you're coming next year to show us how it's done?

It honestly wasn't violent, just loads of passion on and off the park. And a little bit of unruliness at times.

The marshals just let it all go on and the firemen put out the worst of the fires. We should send them over to Liverpool for the next Summerpops!

Expect photos some time soon - I've taken HUNDREDS.

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darran clarke wrote: Im not impressed. Football violence is neither big nor clever

Col's 6ft4 (at least) and 'big in oil' so both v.big and v.clever, though I've no idea where you think he's mentioned football violence at all in his piece?

Oh, unless it's in reference to the banner of opposing teams? Very strange that. It appeared to be a 'family tree' of clubs affiliated to Partizan, clubs who Red Star hate. Newcastle were listed (had heard them and Parizan supposedly have 'links') and the likes of CSKA and Marseilles, but right in the mixer were SHREWSBURY! Why on earth would Red Star hate Shrewsbury, or indeed Partizan's Grobari fans have links to them? Answers on a postcard please.

Just got back. Cracking weekend away, as ever. Special mentions to Maya for setting the wheels in motion and for Col for bringing all the factions together.

And if I ever see a plate of meat again in my life, it'll be too soon.. :nod:

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El Jarvo wrote: And if I ever see a plate of meat again in my life, it'll be too soon.. :nod:

So, probably not a great place for me to go to, then? :laugh:

As for Shrewsbury, God knows why they hate them? If you want to wind someone up from Shrewsbury, the best way to do it is to ask them how to pronounce "Shrewsbury" - two different methods, and very easy to wind up depending on how they pronounce it! :laugh:

(From someone who spends an inordinate amount of time in Telford)

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got some great videos - anyone know how to drive youtube?

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What was wrong with serbian meat?

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He ate a lot of it :nod:

Mixed grill at the nice restarant at the top of Kalmegden, then at ? the following night he had...

mixed grill!

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Top weekend :thumb:

Those Red Star Delije on the North Curve are going to be well upset when they realise what the final score was :laugh:

Red Star were played off the park but they never stopped singing, whatever was going on in the game :shades:

And we got a Serbian rendition of You'll Never Walk Alone :bow:

Other highlights were the ? resturant where you didn't have to order anything, they just brought out what they wanted you to have :laugh: and a bar where you didn't have to bother with all that going to the toilet every 10 minutes rubbish :eek3:

When's the 07/08 fixture list out? :smoking:

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Nick King wrote: As for Shrewsbury, God knows why they hate them?

Been asking the same question on a Shroosbree board.

They're just as confused, though think it might be cos of their own possible links with Newcastle, who in turn have alleged links with the Grobari.

Guilty by association, if you like! :laugh:

The flag in question, with the aforementioned teams bottom left.

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Superb weekend.

Can't wait for the pictures and video clips.

Cheers Maya and Col for all the organising.

Given that we were court-side for the basketball, I can't help thinking that there were close ups of us lot calling for TIME-OUTS during the game on live TV :thumb:

BTW- it took me 26 Hours to get from Belgrade to my front door :\ohwell:

:D

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El Jarvo wrote:

Why on earth would Red Star hate Shrewsbury?

Bane reckons it's only a piss-take :dunno:

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I watched the whole game on telly the next day.

We were behind the cameras so we didn't get shown.

Bane took a great picture of us all though - we all looked awful!

Can't think why :uhoh:

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Bit strange - although both nationalist groups, The Red Star Delije Ultras do have more links with foreign right-wing fans such as Verona(Front),Lazio(Irriducible) and Ferencvaros(Bupadest). Anyone remember 92' when 'Arkan' got involved with Red Star etc.. or their recent (ish) run-ins with Leicester City Partizan do have right-wing elements but nowadays tend to attract a mainly left crowd, and thus the sympathy/links with Toon, Sofia, Marseille. Mentioning Shrewsbury Border Fringe is just stupid, i believe it gives them some suppossed 'cudos' (which it doesn't) Propa football - well done lads - i commend you on your trip :thumb:

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Andrew Sayer wrote: Partizan do have right-wing elements

Indeed, the racist element in their end on Saturday was disgusting. And it wasn't just a handful, it was the whole end. Who do they think they are? Spanish?

Red Star had a huge lumbering (and shite) centre-half from Cameroon and he got the monkey noises every time he touched the ball. How the fcuk he ended up there, I don't know? How would your agent sell that one to you?

Fair play to Red Star though, they did chant his name after one barrage of abuse from Partizan in the first half. Bit like 70's England, I guess - he's okay, cos he's our black, and not theirs.

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Footage of the football!

Stick it out to the end and you get to see the Partisan's naked celebrations!

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BIGINOIL wrote:

Footage of the football!

Stick it out to the end and you get to see the Partisan's naked celebrations!

Bugger the football :nono:

This is what they want to see...

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:crazy:

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Amazing to see the match carry on despite all that going on in the stadium. Must be very distracting.

The Delija sound suspiciously like another bunch of mostly-male nutters that stand in a group, jump up and down and chant songs.

They're nearly as good at singing as them too :thumb:

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BIGINOIL wrote: Amazing to see the match carry on despite all that going on in the stadium. Must be very distracting.

The Delija sound suspiciously like another bunch of mostly-male nutters that stand in a group, jump up and down and chant songs.

They're nearly as good at singing as them too :thumb:

Do you think we can buy Flares off the Gipsys outside Manc Vs Cancer :jump: :jump2:

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Must remember to take porn mags next time I go.

We were the only people not reading them at half time!

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