Isreal v england

I know this aint world in motion forum but thought it might be for wider views. SHITE is it going to improve for england?

Unless they learn how to play, no it won't. Left it to the last 10 minutes again.........same old story.

Is anyone surprised? I fail to see how bringing proven failure at international level Jermaine Defoe on was going to win us the game.

Lampard has to be dropped. You play your best players in their best position and sticking Gerrard on the right proves this. He lacks the discipline to stay out there and was always out of position. If Israel played anywhere near competently they would have had us beat.

McClaren must go. If England qualify for the finals (which they wont) they will be humilated. Why does McClaren refuse to pick Gareth Barry or Leighton Baines, when they have no left backs? Why was Joey Barton dropped? Considering all this strength in depth England had before the World Cup, where has it gone? Why is Lampard still playing for England despite being totally ineffective in three years? Why carry on picking Defoe when it has been proven time and time again that he cannot score goals at international level? When will Wayne Rooneys discipline be sorted? Another pointless and avoidable booking tonight? Why play Phil Neville at right back when he hasnt played there at club level for over three years now?

being a blackburn fan,i would call for the likes our very own david bentley to come into the fold,but for fear it would make him as bad !!!..match was a black mirror nightmare

El Jarvo wrote:

Uncle Liam wrote: Lampard has to be dropped. You play your best players in their best position and sticking Gerrard on the right proves this. He lacks the discipline to stay out there and was always out of position. If Israel played anywhere near competently they would have had us beat.

Hard one to call though. Lampard's arguably the star central midfielder in the Prem (hasn't he just hit over 20 goals again this season, for the 2nd season running) so is obviously 'in form' given his league standing. Gerrard himself has been played out right by Liverpool of late so you can't blame McLaren alone for playing him there. Same goes for Lennon. One-footed as fcuk but Spurs have insisted on playing him wide left recently, so McLaren just followed suit again.

Would indeed be better to play Lennon right and Gerrard through the mid though, but what do we know?

Gerrard's never played a disciplened role, always played all over the pitch. He had his best season in terms of goal return, whilst largely figuring on the right. I don't think he's played very well all season, his goals have dried up and he seems to need a kick-start, as there's a bit of self-doubt creeping in.

Shug Sludden wrote:

We'd still beat Scotland though . err well we might, erm no I don't think we would

Shug is not English, he's from Corby in Scotland

i have never rated mcClaren except in his double dutch age

Gazza vs Colin Hendry

We haven't won anything for 40 years and wont win anything for another 40 with McClaren in charge. Hate to say it, but im starting to realise were probably the laughing stock of european football.

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Steve One wrote: We haven't won anything for 40 years and wont win anything for another 40 with McClaren in charge. Hate to say it, but im starting to realise were probably the laughing stock of european football.

Cream of British football,though.

Imagine how good a United Briddish side would be? How many Scots,Wales,NI would get in the side??? Erm,not hard is it? No point really after all

Boatraceface wrote: Cream of British football,though.

Imagine how good a United Briddish side would be? How many Scots,Wales,NI would get in the side??? Erm,not hard is it? No point really after all

1 - Ryan Giggs. It would be a BIG help however. I suppose its better to always get into the quarter finals of a tournament than never qualify at all though.

You've nowt to laugh about Shug, the above post was a dig at yourself and the other little teams they use to make up the numbers! Oh, but wait. You're ENGLISH living as a jock. So you should be crying either way!

time for a change with some players. Lampard, Stevie will never work.

get Bentley in. he's got some passion for the lions at least.

I think we just need to get rid of McClaren. He's blatantly not up to the job, i dont know who should replace him but he's just a Sven all over again.

even Graham Taylor had a better start than tufty.

we are not world class. never have been.

its the foreign element in the Prem that makes our players look good.

so...GET ARSENE WENGER IN NOW!!!

Having not been on here all weekend i guess is some kind of joke i've missed?

Steve One wrote: Having not been on here all weekend i guess is some kind of joke i've missed?

I think the biggst joke is McLaren's selections... And none of us seem to have missed that...

Snorri xxx

Well I for one am pleased MacNegative got the job.

Edit: Boro played some of the most snooze worthy football I've ever seen under him..Sounds bizzare,but we reached the final of the UEFA cup and won the Carling Cup despite him. I've met him,and have to say I thought he was a bit fake,not to mention smarmy.Bruce Rioch,he is not

Boatraceface wrote: Cream of British football,though.

But what price are Andorra

Uncle Liam wrote: Why was Joey Barton dropped?

Aggro Assault or whatever it was ;)

that and he's done nowt for City in the past 2 months since his call up...

Even I was laughing on Saturday. It cannot get any worse now. I would actually like us to fail to beat Andorra. MacTwat would get the boot, and half the overpaid primadonnas would see an end to their international careers. And to the twonk who emailed GMTV thos morning insisting that Beckham be recalled....he's injured, you prick!

Is that enough laughing now? Lets move on.

El Jarvo wrote:

Steve One wrote: Is that enough laughing now?

Well, at least 'til the Jocks play the Eyeties!

Don't say that Al, we've still to get a result over the mighty Andorra Good call on Bentley, thought he was superb in U21's game on Saturday. Andy Johnson world class?

We haven't got ANY world class players. The England squad is just the best we've got. But they ain't world class, if they were we'd have won something in the past 40 years and would'nt be still going on about THAT fooking game!

Steve One wrote:

Is that enough laughing now? Lets move on.

El Jarvo wrote:

Steve One wrote: Is that enough laughing now?

Well, at least 'til the Jocks play the Eyeties!

Theyre the World Champions though,

and we know we're shite

What price are Andorra

Super Ally wrote:

Steve One wrote:

Is that enough laughing now? Lets move on.

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Steve One wrote:

Is that enough laughing now? Lets move on.

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Steve One wrote:

Is that enough laughing now? Lets move on.

So it's true laughter really is contagious....

just like Yawning

Minx wrote: ... just like Yawning

Which brings us neatly back to 'Watching England'

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Steve One wrote:

Is that enough laughing now? Lets move on.

Oh, piss off!

SHED GAMES GO TO THE SHED!!

City til I Cry and Cry and Cry wrote: SHED GAMES GO TO THE SHED!!

bout time we had another shed game.

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Is that enough laughing now? Lets move on.

Oh, piss off!

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Steve One wrote:

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Oh, piss off!

Super Ally wrote:

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Is that enough laughing now? Lets move on.

Oh, piss off!

I hate to get back on topic and all, but... Is McClaren gonna be found dead in his hotel room??

Half time: Andora 0 England 0

ShugZV wrote:

Shellshocker wrote: I hate to get back on topic and all, but... Is McClaren gonna be found dead in his hotel room??

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Elegia wrote: Half time: Andora 0 England 0

Uh oh! :

Glad to see the lads pulled it out against the mighty Andorrans.

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