Well NOOL always seems to love 'best of' threads that allow for opinions of the mundane.....so let's have it...What IS the best thing you have an opinion about...and why is it better than anyone else's???:shy:
Best Thing You Have an Opinion About!:brow:
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Nuclear power.
A great thing (if done right). Any hydrocarbon based power plant, oil, coal, gas, whatever pollutes constantly by the act of running. While I do not buy into the global warming lunacy, it's still clear that less hydrocarbon exhuast is likely to be a Good Thing. Regardless of that, the shit's gonna run out.
Nuclear plants during normal operation do NOT pollute. In fact they REDUCE,, yes R E D U C E the amount of radioactivity on the planet....where do you think the power comes from???? Nasty radioactive Uranium goes in, and a more stable (though hardly fun to play with still), less radioactive Uranium comes out (238 goes in, 236 comes out, or something simillar).
What about Plutonium? Not a byproduct, made on purpose by warmongering cunts with no soul, it's a VERY nasty substance, and they like it because it makes FAR better bombs than uranium (smaller critical mass, and less precise chemical implosion required to cause chain reaction).
What about accidents? Only two of note in 50 years. One, 3 mile island, was a genuine accident which could have happened at any time with that sort of reactor. There were no casualties. Some people were dosed with about the same level a trip to the Xray dept. would get you. The other, Chernobyl killed a bunch of people. fucked a lot more people up, and made sheep glow in the dark[1]. Ahhhhh. See it IS awful and dangerous....well...yes, BUT, even taking the year of the accident, 1986, how many people died in coal mines, oil faciilities, onboard tankers. How much land was poisoned with runoff, how many miles of coastline were clogged with oil? Really, you see, you cannot hold the awfulness of Chernobyl up and say how bad THIS way of making electricity is, unless you consider how bad OTHER ways are. Also, and far more importantly. It was no mere accident. The plant engineers were under orders from Moscow to test ways of raising output, or reactor efficiency, or both, and this required taking several key safety systems offline (many were not even designed to have an "off" switch, so we're into lash-up engineering before we even start). When the reactor got away from them during the test, the only main safety system still operational (and admittedly the most important) was the graphite moderators....big pillars of graphite lowered into place between the fuel rods to absorb the radiation and thereby prevent chain reaction. BUT the twatrigged reactor had run away SO badly and gotten so hot that the moderators burned up and the reactor melted it's assembly, crumpled up in a big ball and went as wild as any reactor ever could. The heat metled and burned everything in the pressure vessel which duly went POP purely because there was so much pressure from all the vapourised metal and concrete and graphite. There was no Nuclear explosion.
Let me say that again. There was no nuclear explosion. Reactors, and PLEASE understand this, do not, and CAN not do the same thing as a bomb. An atomic bomb requires that you force a critical mass of radioactive metal from two halves (or various other configurations), into one, highly compressed lump, which pissed it off immensely, and the chain reaction happens at an incredible speed. This takes a big fucker of a conventional bomb, with shaped charges and all sorts of other boffin shit, to achive (if a nuke didn't chain react, the conventional explosion would still fuck up a hell of an area). Meanwhile, in a reactor, you bring some rods filled with uranium pelets, near some other rods the same, and there is a very gentle chain reaction[2], the one cannot become the other.
Two other things.
Radiation: New Order produce radiation. Radiation is heat, light, sound,you name it. So never let the word upset you. Particulate radiation from radioactive substances, is what is called "ionizing radiation", it can knock bits out of non-radioactive atoms. It's why it can cause cancer, it can knock bits out of DNA, making the "code" invalid. However, it is also the sole agent of evolution. I say again, you would not be hear if not for radiation, from the sun, from the stars, and from the Earth, it is radiation that causes mutation, and without mutation, there is NO mechanism through which natural selection can operate, and therefor no evolution, just amino acid slime forever. Again though, reactors decrease the total amount on the planet so they are good.
Waste. Bury it. What IS the fucking problem? came from the ground, put it back there. And if you want to be REALLY enviromental-case about it.....grind it up and spread it out in the place it was mined. If you dig a ton of uranium up in some location, a ton of waste goes back, spread out so it's at the same concentration as the original, and voila....you got a bunch of electricity AND made the place less radioactive.
I think that just about covers it.
( :rof: I typed more in this post that in work last night )
[1] Anyone else find it curious that the sheep in the UK most affected by "Chernobyl" were next door to Windscale? (Selafield as they call it now, is not a power plant but a reprocessing plant, it's meant to make spent fuel usable again...see....recycling too
but really it makes plutonium for bombs mainly.....it's not got the best safety record, but that's only cos it's run by the sorts of folks who ran British Leyland)
[2] Radioactive materials spit particles out, essentially each atom has too many to be stable and every now and then an atom gives up and chucks out the offending extra particle. This happens naturally over time. However, when there are large amounts of such material, one atom goes off, and it's ejected particle batters into another atom, and that knock, makes it go off too. Each time an atom "decays" like this, a little enerygy, in the form of heat and a little light, is released....long story, I'll leave it for now....but that's what E=MC^2 is all about!!! that heat is what we use to make leccy or slaughter Japanese civilians.
Steve
I was thinking of a solar panel or a wind turbine, but after seeing your post wondered if you could bulid a domestioc Nuclear Reactor ?
I have space in my Shed, I think ![]()
Strange that is not the sort of thing Cambo normally opinionates on.
Lemme see:
Linux Microsoft bad Formula One religion is bunkum Climate change is either a hoax or natural Computers especially his set up Jem Electronic music America bad/evil Excuse me if I left one or two out. ;)
OK I thought about it. Hot brunettes flims politics New Order
Everything else can have the piss taken out of, well politics and NO as well.
NOOLigan wrote: Strange that is not the sort of thing Cambo normally opinionates on.
I like to keep my audience amused Ronald.
Many of the things you list, are however not opinions, but matters of measurable fact. I mean Jem is great for instance ![]()
Doctor? wrote:
NOOLigan wrote: Strange that is not the sort of thing Cambo normally opinionates on.
I like to keep my audience amused Ronald.
Many of the things you list, are however not opinions, but matters of measurable fact. I mean Jem is great for instance
That is a matter of opinion, well except Jem.
Binoche wrote: Off topic I know, but
Morning Ron
Give me an hour or so and I'll be going to shed Mike. Just reverse day and night and you'll be more or less right.
oooh , Bloc Party are shite , that kind of thing.
off sick from work today .went to the chemist , only to be told the pharmacist is on their lunchbreak and i can't be sold any Day Nurse tablets.WTF!! So, if i seriously needed some medication i couldn't buy some between 1-2pm ![]()
Will Hospitals start closing for lunch hours too? Better not get seriously injured in a road accident between 1-2 pm then.
Good job it's only man flu eh?
just listening to that recent LCD album.See he's still got that nasty cold he had on the last album
Binoche wrote: Sheds Brown Sauce Juliette
I wonder what Juliette could think of it, that is : being in a shed with Mike and a bottle (not made of plastic, please) of brown sauce...
In my search to discover a new colour I ended up tunnelling all the way to Australia. What d'yer mean 'what's he on about, the plant pot?'
Well everybody knows that the new colour is hiding underground!
Don't they?![]()
Doctor? wrote: Nuclear power. A great thing (if done right). What about Plutonium? What about accidents? Radiation. Waste.
I think that just about covers it.
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I typed more in this post that in work last night )
I am now half-tempted to address you as Ralf.
But anyway. Best thing I have opinions about...
--Music [New Order, Joy Division, Kraftwerk, and so on and so on]
--Work
--Jeff
--Individuality/uniqueness
--Boredom
--Blogging [EXPERT]
--Ralf Hutter and Stephen Morris ![]()
...I think that covers it for now.
I'll think more later when I get some sleep.
AgentWood wrote: SUVs. they suck and anyone who drives one is a fascist.
My wife's a facist!!!! Holy crap, what am I to do????![]()
EdelBrock wrote:
AgentWood wrote: SUVs. they suck and anyone who drives one is a fascist.
My wife's a facist!!!! Holy crap, what am I to do????
then she must be eliminated.
AgentWood wrote:
EdelBrock wrote:
AgentWood wrote: SUVs. they suck and anyone who drives one is a fascist.
My wife's a facist!!!! Holy crap, what am I to do????
then she must be eliminated.
I'll go tell her, but I don't think she'll be amused by the idea....
A lot of you don't know me personally, but honestly, I'm a geek in disguise.
I teach mental arithmetic, I love math, and I enjoy solving complicated math problems in my spare time.
I understand fundamental and technical analysis in the stock market.
I'm a philatelist (stamp collector). Some people in TLU forum who sent me a weed know this for I requested stamps sticked on the envelope.
I collect happy/kiddie meal toys from fastfoods. I hope they don't have much lead content for most of them are Made in China.
I love world history and culture, and I love bullfighting.
Indeed*!*
[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: brainless pop culture
yep,thats what my old man would say now cozzy if he was alive
how old are you?
banshee wrote:
[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: brainless pop culture
yep,thats what my old man would say now cozzy if he was alive
how old are you?
He's quiite right, back in Banshee Snr's day, pop music was top quality and really meant something.
Beebopalullah She's my baby
Do wa diddy diddy dum diddy do.
Doctor? wrote:
banshee wrote:
[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: brainless pop culture
yep,thats what my old man would say now cozzy if he was alive
how old are you?
He's quiite right, back in Banshee Snr's day, pop music was top quality and really meant something.
Beebopalullah She's my baby
Do wa diddy diddy dum diddy do.
What are you talking about, that's Banshee's time period....Banshee senior was listening to dat dem der dev'ls m'zik
"Every mornin', every evenin'
Ain't we got fun?
Not much money, oh but honey'
Ain't we got fun?"![]()
EdelBrock wrote:
Doctor? wrote:
banshee wrote:
[magenta]cozmonite61[/magenta] wrote: brainless pop culture
yep,thats what my old man would say now cozzy if he was alive
how old are you?
He's quiite right, back in Banshee Snr's day, pop music was top quality and really meant something.
Beebopalullah She's my baby
Do wa diddy diddy dum diddy do.
What are you talking about, that's Banshee's time period....Banshee senior was listening to dat dem der dev'ls m'zik
"Every mornin', every evenin' Ain't we got fun? Not much money, oh but honey' Ain't we got fun?"
Do wa diddy diddy dum diddy do.
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