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While I freely admit that I don't follow "football", I will stop down for a cursory review of World Cup action.
That being said, I must give major props to my home team. First, a major upset of the fifth ranked Portuguese and then a tie with South Korea on their home turf.
Can anyone give me an overview on our chances against Poland?
Thanks,
Michael
America have surprised a lot of people - I didn't give them a chance against Portugal!! Fair play to em - Poland have now been knocked out of the competition, so all they are playing for is pride, I can see America winning this one
But that's just my opinion;)
Should stuff them, if Beasley and Donovan play well. Have to admit that the USA are looking a decent team these days. Kind of us to let you get good at something at last, wasn't it ;)
It was a good game. Korea Repubilc vs USA. American team did well. They are really strong team. Especaially, they were faster than Korean players. America will go the next round. Korea clinched 1st World Cup victory against Poland, so American team will beat Poland.
Saw some of the Portugal/Poland match, before departing for work, just before the second goal was scored. Seemed to me that goal broke the Poles spirits, and they were lucky that Portugal didn't get about 3 more.
Second half of the Korea game made me nervous; not much of an offensive attack, and leaving it up to the defense and and Brad Friedel in the goal. Feel quite fortunate to have gotten a draw.
America???
didn't know there was a continental team 
People from the u.s. always seem to think they are
the only ones in america...
Sorry, it had to come out
Hey there Be_Music,
If I'm not mistaken, the land mass on which you and I live is known as North America.
I think when most people hear the word "America", the contiguous forty-eight states of the U.S.A. is what comes to mind.
However, when people hear phrases like, "All American's are fat and stupid." or " America doesn't exert enough influence on the world stage." or "America tries to exert too much influence on the world stage." or " American's are imperialistic bastards." I don't think that you or my other friends to the north come to mind.
Take care,
Mike
hey michael-
you got me in queens on that day? I live in queens! you got a team of monkeys working on this one round the clock?
Originally posted by ShugZV America have surprised a lot of people - I didn't give them a chance against Portugal!! Fair play to em - Poland have now been knocked out of the competition, so all they are playing for is pride, I can see America winning this one
That old debate again, but.. America? There is kind of many teams from America down there!!! Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, USA, what else.. :D
And no Canada.. hum, we can say that is because there is 5 months of winter here, but go figure Sweden then...
Originally posted by Michael McDermott Hey there Be_Music,If I'm not mistaken, the land mass on which you and I live is known as North America.I think when most people hear the word "America", the contiguous forty-eight states of the U.S.A. is what comes to mind.However, when people hear phrases like, "All American's are fat and stupid." or " America doesn't exert enough influence on the world stage." or "America tries to exert too much influence on the world stage." or " American's are imperialistic bastards." I don't think that you or my other friends to the north come to mind.Take care,Mike
Well, we DO mind, but we're polite :D
It's so frustrating when you see "US Tour" on a T-Shirt then see Toronto and Montreal listed :D
Some people really believe we're in the US too ;)
Originally posted by Spotnick > Originally posted by Michael McDermott> Hey there Be_Music,> > If I'm not mistaken, the land mass on which you and I live is known as North America.> > I think when most people hear the word "America", the contiguous forty-eight states of the U.S.A. is what comes to mind.> > However, when people hear phrases like, "All American's are fat and stupid." or " America doesn't exert enough influence on the world stage." or "America tries to exert too much influence on the world stage." or " American's are imperialistic bastards." I don't think that you or my other friends to the north come to mind.> > Take care,> > Mike
Well, we DO mind, but we're polite :D
It's so frustrating when you see "US Tour" on a T-Shirt then see Toronto and Montreal listed :D
Some people really believe we're in the US too ;)
I agree 
But how many chances we have to see Montreal again on a NO tour shirt. 
Tiens, un autre Lavallois! :)
I don't know about the concert in 1989 (although it was supposedly held at the old Forum).
As for 1987, you really went to the CEPSUM ????? 
HOW WAS IT ??????
Can't remember who, but one of our American friends commented last week that no game should ever end in a tie. Well, a tie could well see the USA through to the second round tomorrow......possibly to play Italy!
Originally posted by hibster hey michael-you got me in queens on that day?I live in queens!you got a team of monkeys working on this one round the clock?
Who's Keyser Soze......?
Originally posted by Old Blue Can't remember who, but one of our American friends commented last week that no game should ever end in a tie. Well, a tie could well see the USA through to the second round tomorrow......possibly to play Italy!
That was Mr. Geaux Heagan...and I'm willing to wager that he still feels no game should end in a tie!
Originally posted by Be_Music America???didn't know there was a continental team
Hmmm...let's see....The United States of America....The Dominion of Canada....Estados Unidos de Mexico....
seems to me that America is part of the name of this country...and it isn't only people from the United States that call this country America and our residents Americans...While I was an England last week, I had more than one person call me an American, and that was the Engerlish that were calling me that...
I don't recall seeing anyone claim that the USA was the only country on this continent (as a matter of fact, YOU were the first one to bring it up)...so why are you having such an identity crisis...or is it an inferiority complex?
Do you secretly long to be one of us? Surely not, it isn't all it's cracked up to be...
so leave Michael alone...all he did was use the same lingo that I've heard plenty of other non-U.S. citizens use plenty of times....
and just to help clear this up...what term would you have us use in the future....
if you don't want us to be called Americans, what should we use? United Staters...Yanks....dog faced gremlins??? jessies??? help, help, I need an answer...now I am starting to suffer from an identity crisis...
We know that but it's just fun to bring that on again and see you "Americans" react :D
And for the term "United Staters", I like that 
Peace to all
Originally posted by Grand Master B Tiens, un autre Lavallois! :)I don't know about the concert in 1989 (although it was supposedly held at the old Forum).As for 1987, you really went to the CEPSUM ?????
Hi Seb Yes, I really think that concert was canceled due to poor ticket sales :( And yes, i was at the CEPSUM concert to see NO and Echo and the Bunnymen and it was magical for the teenager that i was. There was a lot of JD/NO fans in Montreal back then.
Au plaisir... L'autre Québécois
Originally posted by Be_Music We know that but it's just fun to bring that on again and see you "Americans" react :DAnd for the term "United Staters", I like that
well...okay then...I guess I shouldn't be so thin-skinned myself...yeah...that United Staters does sound quite interesting...but I think I like Jessies better!
Ties? Ties are for formal occassions not Sporting Events. I've been watching the World Cup matches and a couple other things really bother me about this "Sport". If the object is to beat the defender and score goals, what's this bullshit about a player being offsides when he runs faster than the defender and gets a pass in the open field near the goal? Offsides my ass, that's a good play. What if in AMERICAN (you guys are Canadiens, we are Americans, but we all live in North America...are we clear on that?) football, a wide-receiver catches a ball 5 yards ahead of the nearest defender and is called offsides because he didn't wait for the defense to catch up. Absolute nonsense. Stoppage time? Bullshit. Just stop the f**king clock when you need to and quit this ridiculous stoppage time bullshit. Soccer/football is a flawed game that needs to be fixed to be interesting. Offsides, stoppage times and ties are enough to make me switch off the telly and watch the water drip from my kitchen sink.
Originally posted by Geaux Hagen Ties? Ties are for formal occassions not Sporting Events. I've been watching the World Cup matches and a couple other things really bother me about this "Sport". If the object is to beat the defender and score goals, what's this bullshit about a player being offsides when he runs faster than the defender and gets a pass in the open field near the goal? Offsides my ass, that's a good play. What if in AMERICAN (you guys are Canadiens, we are Americans, but we all live in North America...are we clear on that?) football, a wide-receiver catches a ball 5 yards ahead of the nearest defender and is called offsides because he didn't wait for the defense to catch up. Absolute nonsense. Stoppage time? Bullshit. Just stop the f**king clock when you need to and quit this ridiculous stoppage time bullshit. Soccer/football is a flawed game that needs to be fixed to be interesting. Offsides, stoppage times and ties are enough to make me switch off the telly and watch the water drip from my kitchen sink.
So are you supporting your national team in their bid to win the World Cup, or not? :) ;)
Jeff,
Thanks for the back up on the whole "American" thing. I know that we "Americans" are guilty of many things: from jamming McDonald's and Microsoft down the world's throat (at the least offensive) to actually being Imperialistics bastards at times. But I don't think using to the term "American" to describe ourselves is being myopic.
Jeff, were our cousins able to figure you for a Yank right off the bat or did you try to disguise yourself? :-D
As far as ties and offsides go, I can pretty much live with them. However, I've never had anyone give me a good explanation as to why offsides is needed as a rule.
Off-side is there to stop the beloved game being turned into a fucking circus!! I mean who wants to see 40 goals per game? that'd just get a bit fuckin tedious for us lot over here!
What's all this shite with Time-outs? fucking jessies! Basketball, American Football, Ice Hockey.....
Can your lot over there not last the fucking pace
Next you'll be telling me indy cars will be having time outs - cos they get a bit tired with all that driving around
And the worse thing about it is - your so called sportsman get paid feckin millions! run around a bit you lazy bastards!!!!
And the world series is only played between 3 countries is it not?
Fuck me - I could go on fer ages about the inadequecies of American Sport, but that's best left to Marty
SHUG FEELING VERY WITTY SIGNING AFF;)
Huh, actually the World Series might only involve the United States' and Canada's teams (the latter one has two among 30 !), but 99% of the time the World Series will show two teams from the United States. Now, if the word World Series isn't self-centered to death, I wonder what it is!
But you have to know that originally, "World" was a brand name which sponsored the baseball series, so hence the "World Series". At least this is what I was told... maybe we should check out mlb.com to make sure?
But as footy goes, I tend to agree with Brian! Ties shouldn't exist! There should be a showdown after the regular time.
How do you explain that there are so few goals nowadays? I remember games with scores like 5-4, etc......... ?????
s.
Originally posted by Dutch Jim says: NO! (again at special request...) I really like the coach of the South-Korean team!!hihi.
Me, too. He is a national hero here.
The same goes with the NBA. The winning team of the NBA is given the title 'World Champions'. I think we all know that the NBA champions whoever they are would have to be the best team in the world but its a little over the top to automatically give them the title of 'World Champion'.
Oh by the way, the World Cup is the biggest sporting event in the world so the sport of football has to be doing something right. Who'd want to be a goalkeeper if there were no offside rules ?
The only thing that should be changed is the pre tournament qualifying rounds ... There is no Oceania representative team ... Instead Australia, has to go through this bullshit qualifying round against some pretty good teams ... We're better then quite afew of the teams in the World Cup ....
So, obviously our American friends clearly don't understand the offside rule and can't see the merit of a draw. How long will it take them to comprehend that they've just been stuffed 3-1, but still progress to the second round?
"Off-side is there to stop the beloved game being turned into a fucking circus!! I mean who wants to see 40 goals per game? that'd just get a bit fuckin tedious for us lot over here! What's all this shite with Time-outs? fucking jessies! Basketball, American Football, Ice Hockey..... Can your lot over there not last the fucking pace Next you'll be telling me indy cars will be having time outs - cos they get a bit tired with all that driving around And the worse thing about it is - your so called sportsman get paid feckin millions! run around a bit you lazy bastards!!!! And the world series is only played between 3 countries is it not? Fuck me - I could go on fer ages about the inadequecies of American Sport, but that's best left to Marty SHUG FEELING VERY WITTY SIGNING AFF"
My man Shug,
You make some valid points concerning the amount of time-outs in basketball (a game with 30 seconds left can be dragged out to 10 minutes) and the freakish salaries that are paid. I blame the greedy (and powerful) player's unions for demanding the outrageous sums and the stupid owners for paying them.
As far as conditioning is concerned, I would venture to say that if you took a professional athlete from a particular sport and dropped him in another, he would find it difficult to ramp up to the physical demands of the new sport.
Example: Let's take World Cup Football player and strap 10 +lbs. of gear on him (helmet; shoulder pads; hip, thigh and knee pads) and place him at running back (in American football). Then, over the course of the average 4 minute scoring drive (that's 4 minutes elapsed from the play clock - there will be television time-outs, dropped passes and actual called time-outs that can stop the clock ) let's feed him the ball 5 times. That's 5 time of literally running for his life. That's 5 times of being crushed head on, from the side and being dragged down from behind by very angry, very large and very fast defensive players. Something tells me that World Cup Football player might be calling for a blow before too long.......just as American Football player would be coughing up a lung into the 20th minute...... :D
Peace bro'!
Incidentally, the American use of 'World Series' and 'World Champions' has nothing to do with world as we understand it. I can't recollect the entire history but needless to say it has some association with business rather than the world as an international forum. Tournaments won in the States as 'World Series' does not in any way mean the international world.
Just a poor choice of words that's all.
If they manage to beat Mexican Fahitas in the last 16 I'll eat my sombrero.
Originally posted by Huntsman Incidentally, the American use of 'World Series' and 'World Champions' has nothing to do with world as we understand it. I can't recollect the entire history but needless to say it has some association with business rather than the world as an international forum. Just a poor choice of words that's all.
It's named after a newspaper. The Daily World, or something.
Though, obviously, they DO genuinely believe it IS the World Series. :D
Er, after who else plays (American) 'Football', Basketball, Baseball, Ice Hockey, etc.?
QUOTE OF THE DAY (FROM UPI):
USA sneaks in World Cup's back door
From the Sports Desk Published 6/14/2002 11:23 AM View printer-friendly version
A World Cup that has been nothing short of bizarre became even stranger Friday, much to the delight of the United States and to the everlasting chagrin of Portugal.
"....the everlasting chagrin of Portugal." That is classic. Somebody had their thinking cap on......
USA must thank Korea coach Guus Hiddink. He heard that Poland socored 2 against USA at 1st half. But he did not let the squad know (and told only 2 oldiest players Hong and Yoo the fact) and ordered his boys goal and victory. Nobody knows what he is thinking...he is really wonderfull leader.
Originally posted by Michael McDermott QUOTE OF THE DAY (FROM UPI):USA sneaks in World Cup's back door From the Sports DeskPublished 6/14/2002 11:23 AMView printer-friendly versionA World Cup that has been nothing short of bizarre became even stranger Friday, much to the delight of the United States and to the everlasting chagrin of Portugal."....the everlasting chagrin of Portugal." That is classic. Somebody had their thinking cap on......
Nobody I knew who watched much of the US/Poland match is besides themselves with absolute glee over advancing to the second round. They're happy with doing so, but after the regression today, especially the first five minutes, it just seems a bit odd to be overtly proud. (This is based on the fact that I could only watch the first half live, and had to tape the second; which I have yet to view).
Oh, and you are so right Heather, thanks to your coach for his leadership skills, Korea has been quite impressive so far.
Glad to see my comments caused a bit of a stir
As fer the American footballer's carrying round extra weight with their protective gear - why do the big jessies have to wear protective gear? you don't see Rugby players with loadsa pads etc... Stop the time outs and get rid of the protective equipment - it'll make it a lot more exciting;)
Speaking of Rugby Union, can any of the English folk tell me how big rugby league is now in the UK ? Is it dying or already dead ?
Hey there Mr. Huntsman,
A nice tamatillo sauce should go well with the sombrero you should be eating right about now.... :D
The U.S.A. in the round of eight?!?!?!? Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU Korea! We would never have had the opportunity to upset Mexico without your great play against Portugal.
I have absolutely no idea what our chances are against Germany. Anyone have an idea?
Originally posted by Michael McDermott Hey there Mr. Huntsman,A nice tamatillo sauce should go well with the sombrero you should be eating right about now.... :DThe U.S.A. in the round of eight?!?!?!? Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU Korea! We would never have had the opportunity to upset Mexico without your great play against Portugal.I have absolutely no idea what our chances are against Germany. Anyone have an idea?
Stranger things have happened, I wouldn't have thought the bookies would consider a USA victory the likely outcome but you never know. Where's the Huntsman 'sombrero' post?
Originally posted by Michael McDermott Hey there Mr. Huntsman,A nice tamatillo sauce should go well with the sombrero you should be eating right about now.... :DThe U.S.A. in the round of eight?!?!?!? Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU Korea! We would never have had the opportunity to upset Mexico without your great play against Portugal.I have absolutely no idea what our chances are against Germany. Anyone have an idea?
I can safely say I have never ever wanted the USA to win anything before, until now !!! Good luck against the Germans, it'll be tough, and they will have the ref on their side, but you never know.....
oi...had to let my crew watch the game at work this morning...and I was getting a little fearful...
in case none of you are aware, I have approximately 50 employees that report to me, and of that 50....48 are from Mexico...so I was just a tad bit apprehensive about how their attitudes would be after the game...
but I was much relieved to discover that they are all now Americans....
I didn't give the US a chance to get past Mexico...and I don't give them a chance to get past the Germans, so who knows what this means...
hmmmm....maybe somewhere along the way, we could see the USA play England...wouldn't that be interesting?
Wonder who the Shugster would be rooting for?
Originally posted by The Jessie! oi...had to let my crew watch the game at work this morning...and I was getting a little fearful...in case none of you are aware, I have approximately 50 employees that report to me, and of that 50....48 are from Mexico...so I was just a tad bit apprehensive about how their attitudes would be after the game...but I was much relieved to discover that they are all now Americans....I didn't give the US a chance to get past Mexico...and I don't give them a chance to get past the Germans, so who knows what this means...hmmmm....maybe somewhere along the way, we could see the USA play England...wouldn't that be interesting?Wonder who the Shugster would be rooting for?
the brits of course
Originally posted by Heather Kim > Originally posted by Dutch Jim says: NO! (again at special request...)> I really like the coach of the South-Korean team!!> > hihi.
Me, too. He is a national hero here.
and he is dutch right??????
Originally posted by Jim Giliberto > Originally posted by The Jessie!> oi...had to let my crew watch the game at work this morning...and I was getting a little fearful...> > in case none of you are aware, I have approximately 50 employees that report to me, and of that 50....48 are from Mexico...so I was just a tad bit apprehensive about how their attitudes would be after the game...> > but I was much relieved to discover that they are all now Americans....> > I didn't give the US a chance to get past Mexico...and I don't give them a chance to get past the Germans, so who knows what this means...> > hmmmm....maybe somewhere along the way, we could see the USA play England...wouldn't that be interesting?> > Wonder who the Shugster would be rooting for?
the brits of course
Jim...you would have had to have been there when the order began doing World In Motion at Finsbree....
I rather think he might be rooting for the US Taters if this were to pass...
Originally posted by The Jessie! > Originally posted by Jim Giliberto> > > > Originally posted by The Jessie!> > oi...had to let my crew watch the game at work this morning...and I was getting a little fearful...> > > > in case none of you are aware, I have approximately 50 employees that report to me, and of that 50....48 are from Mexico...so I was just a tad bit apprehensive about how their attitudes would be after the game...> > > > but I was much relieved to discover that they are all now Americans....> > > > I didn't give the US a chance to get past Mexico...and I don't give them a chance to get past the Germans, so who knows what this means...> > > > hmmmm....maybe somewhere along the way, we could see the USA play England...wouldn't that be interesting?> > > > Wonder who the Shugster would be rooting for?>
the brits of course
Jim...you would have had to have been there when the order began doing World In Motion at Finsbree....
I rather think he might be rooting for the US Taters if this were to pass...
Certainly would be Jeffsy - Jimbo how could you possibly think I'd be supporting the "Auld Enemy?"
Originally posted by The Jessie! hmmmm....maybe somewhere along the way, we could see the USA play England...wouldn't that be interesting?
Sure it would be nice, but it is only possible in the final match. Hey, this means Brazil was beaten by England. I've changed my mind, it's not so interesting anymore.
Originally posted by ROCKET MICK RUCKSACK FOR SALE ...ONE CARELESS JESSIE OWNER!
oi..oi..oi...
you're a fooking star mate!!!!
Originally posted by Jim Giliberto > Originally posted by Heather Kim> > > > Originally posted by Dutch Jim says: NO! (again at special request...)> > I really like the coach of the South-Korean team!!> > > > hihi.>
Me, too. He is a national hero here.
and he is dutch right??????
Yes, he is.
Originally posted by Michael McDermott Hey there Mr. Huntsman,A nice tamatillo sauce should go well with the sombrero you should be eating right about now.... :DThe U.S.A. in the round of eight?!?!?!? Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU Korea! We would never have had the opportunity to upset Mexico without your great play against Portugal.I have absolutely no idea what our chances are against Germany. Anyone have an idea?
USA,see you again in round of 4 :D
