Burt Reynolds wrote: he tried the same with the New FADS; stripped them down, and it didnt work at all. Last band he produced I believe, and I understood they had an accident with him in a shopping trolley or summink.
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Bands that are/were better live than on record
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Big Black wrote: And how could I have forgotten Killing Joke and Ministry?
Chris, can you really form an opinion when most of these bands you are quoting are completely out of your time?
Saw Ministry about '91 or '92, live they were just like a fcuking metal band - not a patch on the studio work.
The Wedding Present will still be on the George Best tour will they not? Again you've seen a band well past their prime, playing stuff from before their prime, different line up, you're not familiar with the tracks etc etc
Basically I don't think you are in a poosition to judge. In their day they were ace, today it's just an excuse for us old buggers to relive their past and enjoy an evening out.
PS Live, Barker is an awesome bass player.
AND KRAFTWERK.
Two great gigs back to back at Brixton a couple of years ago. I was in a heavily fcuked up state, but remember being blown away by em.
johnny wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote: he tried the same with the New FADS; stripped them down, and it didnt work at all. Last band he produced I believe, and I understood they had an accident with him in a shopping trolley or summink.
Shocked that this is Hannett, he looks more like Tad
aye tis a shocking pic , yet still kind of funny/quality.scanned it from the cities in the park 91 programme
Al Murray wrote:
Big Black wrote: KT Tunstall
Hate to do a Kershaw but in this case I think it's fully justified:
leave me out pal.
and ONE MORE thing.
never ever ever ever reveal my real second name.
or i'll remember big time.
i'm not being funny now.
James Thomas wrote:
Big Black wrote: And how could I have forgotten Killing Joke and Ministry?
Chris, can you really form an opinion when most of these bands you are quoting are completely out of your time?
Saw Ministry about '91 or '92, live they were just like a fcuking metal band - not a patch on the studio work.
The Wedding Present will still be on the George Best tour will they not? Again you've seen a band well past their prime, playing stuff from before their prime, different line up, you're not familiar with the tracks etc etc
Basically I don't think you are in a poosition to judge. In their day they were ace, today it's just an excuse for us old buggers to relive their past and enjoy an evening out.
PS Live, Barker is an awesome bass player.
Look at Johnny's first post about House of Love. Live recordings are great.
only kiddin.
say what you want.
no one really cares. its the bottom line.
James Thomas wrote:
PS Live, Barker is an awesome bass player.
Whom Jourgensen is about to sue!
New Order
Always preferred em live to the lame studio offerings. It was the following that did it for me:-
The BUndeswher Vest The Green Hohner Melodica The Pernod Bottle The Holston Pilcs Cans The fluffed Lyrics No Encores
Great Times
S.L.F (Used To Be A Brilliant Band Live).
Thin Lizzy. (Ditto and I didn't like their records).
Hüsker Dü. (Deafening but worth it).
Aztec Camera. (Entertainment that gets you high).
Felt. (Sometimes you could even hear what Lawrence was singing).
The Bunnymen (But great records too).
Julian Cope (Who I once saw blow they wee Supergrass diddies right off the stage).
The Velvet Underground! (Best live band ever).
EdelBrock wrote: Don't know if I should admit this.....
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Jewel....
Of course she's better on video (whether live or not) than on audio. Also:
Kylie Minogue
Dannii Minogue
Christina Aguilera
Madonna (?)
Britney Spears
and a lot of other hot chicks
Indeed
Binoche wrote: New Order
Always preferred em live to the lame studio offerings. It was the following that did it for me:-
The BUndeswher Vest The Green Hohner Melodica The Pernod Bottle The Holston Pilcs Cans The fluffed Lyrics No Encores
Great Times
Mike, I hate to be rude, but anyone who thinks New Order sounds better live is clearly tone deaf, or lost their hearing after attending so many live New Order gigs.
The Cure.
The albums they did in the '90s were either as great live as they were on record, Wish and Bloodflowers, or better live than on record, Wild Mood Swings and the self-titled one. I had heard the self-titled songs live first and thought they sounded great, but when I bought the record a month later, the Ross Robinson production totally wiped anything good out. No wonder Simon Gallup tried to punch his teeth in.
This blue-eyed boy that wants to be wrote:
Binoche wrote: New Order
Always preferred em live to the lame studio offerings. It was the following that did it for me:-
The BUndeswher Vest The Green Hohner Melodica The Pernod Bottle The Holston Pilcs Cans The fluffed Lyrics No Encores
Great Times
Mike, I hate to be rude, but anyone who thinks New Order sounds better live is clearly tone deaf, or lost their hearing after attending so many live New Order gigs.
Have you actually been to a New Order gig?
Nick King wrote:
This blue-eyed boy that wants to be wrote:
Binoche wrote: New Order
Always preferred em live to the lame studio offerings. It was the following that did it for me:-
The BUndeswher Vest The Green Hohner Melodica The Pernod Bottle The Holston Pilcs Cans The fluffed Lyrics No Encores
Great Times
Mike, I hate to be rude, but anyone who thinks New Order sounds better live is clearly tone deaf, or lost their hearing after attending so many live New Order gigs.
Have you actually been to a New Order gig?
No, I have not, but I've watched live gigs on youtube. Although I can't tell the atmosphere, the performance was rather poor or hit-or-miss. And, no, my speakers do not need to get fixed.
This blue-eyed boy that wants to be wrote:
Nick King wrote:
This blue-eyed boy that wants to be wrote:
Binoche wrote: New Order
Always preferred em live to the lame studio offerings. It was the following that did it for me:-
The BUndeswher Vest The Green Hohner Melodica The Pernod Bottle The Holston Pilcs Cans The fluffed Lyrics No Encores
Great Times
Mike, I hate to be rude, but anyone who thinks New Order sounds better live is clearly tone deaf, or lost their hearing after attending so many live New Order gigs.
Have you actually been to a New Order gig?
No, I have not, but I've watched live gigs on youtube. Although I can't tell the atmosphere, the performance was rather poor or hit-or-miss. And, no, my speakers do not need to get fixed.
I disagree of course. Gigs in the late eighties, particularly the Low Life stuff often blew me away. I used to think songs like Subculture and BLT sounded better live cos Barney sped up the chorus. But you are right on 'hit-and-miss'. That was a plus point though. The post-1998 NO has been much more stable but arguably much more boring. No big surprises, or moments of surprise genius.
I would say New Order. The live versions of temptation, face up and ceremony really crack. Plus some of the youtube footage I have seen from circa 84/5 for me has a much better impact than the same songs recorded on Lowlife.
This blue-eyed boy that wants to be wrote:
Nick King wrote:
This blue-eyed boy that wants to be wrote:
Binoche wrote: New Order
Always preferred em live to the lame studio offerings. It was the following that did it for me:-
The BUndeswher Vest The Green Hohner Melodica The Pernod Bottle The Holston Pilcs Cans The fluffed Lyrics No Encores
Great Times
Mike, I hate to be rude, but anyone who thinks New Order sounds better live is clearly tone deaf, or lost their hearing after attending so many live New Order gigs.
Have you actually been to a New Order gig?
No, I have not, but I've watched live gigs on youtube. Although I can't tell the atmosphere, the performance was rather poor or hit-or-miss. And, no, my speakers do not need to get fixed.
Isn't that rather like cracking one off to the Paris Hilton video and then deciding she wasn't a good shag?
This is exactly why I posed this. New Order live are so much more than the performance and I would daresay that you can appreciate some of the video footage only if you've seen them live.
James Thomas wrote:
This blue-eyed boy that wants to be wrote:
Nick King wrote:
This blue-eyed boy that wants to be wrote:
Binoche wrote: New Order
Always preferred em live to the lame studio offerings. It was the following that did it for me:-
The BUndeswher Vest The Green Hohner Melodica The Pernod Bottle The Holston Pilcs Cans The fluffed Lyrics No Encores
Great Times
Mike, I hate to be rude, but anyone who thinks New Order sounds better live is clearly tone deaf, or lost their hearing after attending so many live New Order gigs.
Have you actually been to a New Order gig?
No, I have not, but I've watched live gigs on youtube. Although I can't tell the atmosphere, the performance was rather poor or hit-or-miss. And, no, my speakers do not need to get fixed.
Isn't that rather like cracking one off to the Paris Hilton video and then deciding she wasn't a good shag?
This is exactly why I posed this. New Order live are so much more than the performance and I would daresay that you can appreciate some of the video footage only if you've seen them live.
Isn't it well-known information that Paris Hilton is not a good shag because it's like fucking a grasshopper?
Jess...where the fuck do you come up with some of your comparisons???
I'm worried about you...one of these days we're gonna hear about how you have killed 27 bisexual Depeche Mode fans with TastyKakes from WaWa....
