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http://www.slipstreamstores.co.uk/hacienda/

this is the real deal on hacienda product. the first of four designs on a limited run. if they are sold out on the site - they will be replenished with a further 51 of each. hacienda back neck labels and great quality t shirts. keep the faith. bobby

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How are these actually 'official'? A tad expensive for a t-shirt.... I vote :spam:

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too expensive :\ohwell:

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You don't get much more official than Bobby saying it's official!

I bet you £40 I buy one :thumb:

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Rev Big wrote: You don't get much more official than Bobby saying it's official!

I bet you £40 I buy one :thumb:

we must confer :nod:

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not for $50.00.

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if anyone can get a copy of yesterdays manchester evening news, read the diary section, then duck for cover as legal procedings kick off. in short, hooky was at the opening of an exibition of photos of AHW, when he noticed hacienda t shirts on the shelves, being the owner of the trademark, he knew they were not legit, the store management imediatly withdrew all products from the store with the hac logo on it. oops:blush: :nono: :deal: :evil4:

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Old Lead Foot wrote: if anyone can get a copy of yesterdays manchester evening news, read the diary section, then duck for cover as legal procedings kick off. in short, hooky was at the opening of an exibition of photos of AHW, when he noticed hacienda t shirts on the shelves, being the owner of the trademark, he knew they were not legit, the store management imediatly withdrew all products from the store with the hac logo on it. oops:blush: :nono: :deal: :evil4:

Ermmm.... so you are saying the ones on sale above are dodgy?

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I dont see the big deal, the club's been shut 12 years. he's quick enough himself to use the logo, after all Hooky wasn't a Hac DJ - but he's passing himself off as one nowdays.

Dont really see how he owns the trademark of something that doesn't exist anymore - it wasn't a label or anything, it was just the name of a nightclub. Er, a name that they'd lifted themselves.

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as far as i know, those ones are legit.

my dad wore the top right one at versus cancer last month, and i'm sure i've seen the one in the bottom right knocking around the house.

but yeah, he was dj'ing at Zavvi in town when he noticed some bootleg stuff.

it's only fair, i mean if i copied something you owned and started selling it and making money off it while you get nothing, you would be annoyed too.

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There once was a club called the Hacienda Where dodgy Mancs would go on a bender Then it got shit And the coppers closed it And people have been milking it for all it's fucking worth ever since, stupid fucking bastards, it was cold and the sound was fucking atrocious and the beer was overpriced as well, etc.

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:handbags:

Seems to be a lot of HAC stuff about these days,who actually owns the copyright to the name?

Hooky or all of new order?

:nuts:

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Hooky bought the name for five grand when Factory went tits up, according to Hooky in an interview that was shown at Urbis.

It was Rob Gretton's idea.

So it's his. he licensed the name back to the developers of the apartments too.

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Rev Big wrote: Hooky bought the name for five grand when Factory went tits up, according to Hooky in an interview that was shown at Urbis.

It was Rob Gretton's idea.

So it's his. he licensed the name back to the developers of the apartments too.

I remember him saying that the developers of the appartments paid him a shit load of money to use the name.

Perhaps we are missing the bigger picture here?

Far from me sounding sceptical,but surely mr hook has made a lot of money on the back of the name of the hacienda,no?

Plus all the Hacienda mix cd's continously released.

And the hacienda exhibition?

thats all i'm saying.

fair play to hooky for having the savvy to stick £5k in,surely he's got it back 10/100 fold ,no?

:nuts:

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In the interview at Urbis he said that Gretton would have bought it but he didn't have the 5k to hand. He didn't actually say that he'd made much out of it, but he looked like the cat that got the cream as he said it!

Fair play to him. Better any money it generates goes to him than someone entirely unconnected with it all.

When's his book out, anyway? I bet there'll be some good event to publicise that.

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[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote: as far as i know, those ones are legit.

my dad wore the top right one at versus cancer last month, and i'm sure i've seen the one in the bottom right knocking around the house.

but yeah, he was dj'ing at Zavvi in town when he noticed some bootleg stuff.

it's only fair, i mean if i copied something you owned and started selling it and making money off it while you get nothing, you would be annoyed too.

But if the person who made these shirts went through the hassle and effort to do it legitimately, don't you think they would spend a second or two to show it on the website?

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EdelBrock wrote:

[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote: as far as i know, those ones are legit.

my dad wore the top right one at versus cancer last month, and i'm sure i've seen the one in the bottom right knocking around the house.

but yeah, he was dj'ing at Zavvi in town when he noticed some bootleg stuff.

it's only fair, i mean if i copied something you owned and started selling it and making money off it while you get nothing, you would be annoyed too.

But if the person who made these shirts went through the hassle and effort to do it legitimately, don't you think they would spend a second or two to show it on the website?

I think the website appears to not be in question, or they wouldn't be advertising it on here as the 'real deal'.

Think Hooky's just seen some dodgy ones on sale elsewhere.

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Burt Reynolds wrote: Think Hooky's just seen some dodgy ones on sale elsewhere.

Wonder if he's ever gone into Vinyl Revival? :evil4:

:smoking:

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Burt Reynolds wrote:

EdelBrock wrote:

[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote: as far as i know, those ones are legit.

my dad wore the top right one at versus cancer last month, and i'm sure i've seen the one in the bottom right knocking around the house.

but yeah, he was dj'ing at Zavvi in town when he noticed some bootleg stuff.

it's only fair, i mean if i copied something you owned and started selling it and making money off it while you get nothing, you would be annoyed too.

But if the person who made these shirts went through the hassle and effort to do it legitimately, don't you think they would spend a second or two to show it on the website?

I think the website appears to not be in question, or they wouldn't be advertising it on here as the 'real deal'.

Think Hooky's just seen some dodgy ones on sale elsewhere.

Yeah, yer right, its impossible to post bollocks on this website, and Bobby's probably got more cred than anyone of us on this site.:nod:

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hello everyone, i've worked on this hacienda merchandise business with peter hook for an awful long time. we have worked bloody hard on this and we've tried to keep everyone happy.

the tees are expensive, but printing, cotton, postage, packing, labelling is expensive i'm afraid. i could go to china and make them for pennies but thats not what we are about. (and theres no bus from ancoats).

we have a very good product and force no one to buy it. it's there for you if you wish. buy from elsewhere if if it's about saving some money, i respect that choice and money doesn't grow on trees.

you would not believe the offers i get everyday from companies (who are clueless) wishing to cash in on this business, my aim is to guard and respect the legacy of gretton/hook/wilson et al. and i'll do my damned best to do that.

sorry for the rant, but missus is sick of me talking about this hacienda thing. she's from london and doesn't understand.

up the blues.

bobby

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Bobby,

What do you mean excuse the rant? Who do you think you are, me? :laugh:

Keep up the good work, sir.

Bring one of the UP ones to Eastlands on Saturday and I'll give you the cash. Be proud to wear it as we claw back our 6-goal aggregate deficit :laugh:

One XL and one small for, err, Little on the Run ;)

In fact, are they in any shops? My mate's having his birthday on Sunday and he was a yooge Hacienda lad. I'd cut quite a dash in one of them.

I've just bought a Gio Goi shirt to wear. It says Peace, Love and Doves on the front. I'm not sure what it means, but it looks cool :ignore:

I've got a poster somewhere that fell off a wall in Belgrade as I was walking past it. It's a proper rip-off of Fac-1, advertising some club night. And in Tokyo I picked up a flier for another club night (although it was actually a Hacienda night I think) that was a red version. It must be hard to try to protect the integrity of a set of images when, by Saville's genius, they are so easy to ape. 45 degree stripes and a bit of Helvetica and you're well on the way to a bona fide style icon.

With all the pale imitations around, it's imperative that the real deal is of the highest quality possible.

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Burt Reynolds wrote:

EdelBrock wrote:

[orange]State of Love and Trust [/orange] wrote: as far as i know, those ones are legit.

my dad wore the top right one at versus cancer last month, and i'm sure i've seen the one in the bottom right knocking around the house.

but yeah, he was dj'ing at Zavvi in town when he noticed some bootleg stuff.

it's only fair, i mean if i copied something you owned and started selling it and making money off it while you get nothing, you would be annoyed too.

But if the person who made these shirts went through the hassle and effort to do it legitimately, don't you think they would spend a second or two to show it on the website?

I think the website appears to not be in question, or they wouldn't be advertising it on here as the 'real deal'.

Think Hooky's just seen some dodgy ones on sale elsewhere.

correct

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I think that's the one most of us will be wearing next time we get pissed together!

Cheers Bobby, I'll pop in there if I can at the weekend.

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John Sludden wrote: Ordered this one for myself and Shug -

Nice wan :thumb:

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John Sludden wrote: Ordered this one for myself and Shug -

I saw a guy in this at the Hacienda night, I like it :thumb:

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