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I've only just realised that David Leslie, ex BTCC and Le-mans driver, as well as team manager Richard Lloyd (who masterminded Bentley's triumphant return to Le Mans) were killed in that plane crash in Kent.

As if that wasn't bad enough. The "news" of the world, has a video of Max Moseley getting whores to dress up as jewish deathcamp victims and yelling orders at them in German. I always said he was his father's son, and this (assuming, which is a big assumption, it's not a frame-up job or a fake), does tend to illustrate why he is so fond of Schumacher and so against Lewis Hamilton.

He'll have to go. I mean he's had to go for about 8 years, and sadly it'll take something like this to make it happen. Saddest thing is that the paper keeps referring to him as "formula one boss", ermmmm no, he isn't he's in charge of the FIA, the international car club, which is primarily in charge of road safety, but also governs all international motorsport events.

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Doctor? wrote: As if that wasn't bad enough. The "news" of the world, has a video of Max Moseley getting whores to dress up as jewish deathcamp victims and yelling orders at them in German.

I thought everybody did that behind closed doors...:crazy:

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From the paper :-

'Patricia Harman's £450,000 pound home was destroyed in the accident - she and her husband were on holiday at the time.

She arrived home and sobbed "Oh my god, oh my god, the house, not the house..." before being led away by a male relative.

Husband Edwin said he would be completeing his golf trip before returning home.'

Get your priorities right, why don't you. Cunts.

Watched David Leslie race several times. RIP.

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I was shopping in the Sainsbury's nearby, and heard the loud bang, and thought fuck it, I'm off to watch the Merseyside derby on the telly, instead. Thought nothing of it til i heard it on the radio this morning.

I've just been up there trying to see a mate, but you cant get near due to the bloody media.

I will say, that the pilot did blooming well, not killing anyone on the ground, cos the area is swarming with kids playing footie on a Sunday afternoon. From the crash site, you can see he was trying to get over the estate, into an open field, but went down on what looks like the last house, No 5. Friend of mine lives at No 2.

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Old Blue wrote: From the paper :-

'Patricia Harman's £450,000 pound home was destroyed in the accident - she and her husband were on holiday at the time.

She arrived home and sobbed "Oh my god, oh my god, the house, not the house..." before being led away by a male relative.

That has to be the luckiest of holiday bookings ever. Stupid bint.

Hope the insurance don't pay out.

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Old Blue wrote: From the paper :-

'Patricia Harman's £450,000 pound home was destroyed in the accident - she and her husband were on holiday at the time.

She arrived home and sobbed "Oh my god, oh my god, the house, not the house..." before being led away by a male relative.

Husband Edwin said he would be completeing his golf trip before returning home.'

Get your priorities right, why don't you. Cunts.

Watched David Leslie race several times. RIP.

Racing drivers don't seem to do all that well in small aircraft, McRae, Bertie Fisher, Mr Leslie, and a couple of others too. Yet Irvine goes clattering over my house every coupla weeks in total safety, no justice.

Leslie was never my favourite, but he was old-school BTCC, and that demands respect. He was also a very good commentator.

The pilot must have held on until the very last, a brave man.

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By all accounts, witnesses said he was struggling with the plane but managed to lift it up and turn it to avoid a playing field full of children. There could have been many more deaths.

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Saw him race loads when I used to go to the BTCC at Thruxton as a teenager. Real sad news, RIP.

The Max Mosely thing though...that's just surreal. Another year where the racing will be secondary to all the other shit then.

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Of course speed had nothing to do with it?

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See other thread for a better response than you deserve, you numpty :lol:

BTW, as to Maxwell's little indiscression, I think if it'd had been "max gets spank by whores" no-one (with half a brain) would care. If it was "some geezer dresses up as a nazi and plays fucked up games", it may have been mildly worrying. But "son of Hitler's pal and facist leader, governor of a sport where a black chap seems to fall in roses and come up smelling of shite, while a member of the master race could have oponents removed at will, dresses up as a nazi and gets girls to play deathcamp victims". That's not only surreal, it's terrifying. I've kidded about Max being daddy's little fuhrer, but fuck me, this is mental. I was grepping my brain furiously for something that had unsettled it so much before, and the only thing that came up, was the WTC attack (although that was accompanied by sheer terror of WWIII kicking off before teatime), that's the most fucked up thing of all, but in terms of a change in my world, I suppose it makes some sense.

Anyway, whoever said it was right, Brundle for the beeb.

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Hands up who doesn't have a clue what Doctor's on about...

:hi:

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He lost me half way.

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From the aforelinked fertilizer distributor......

FORMULA One motor racing chief Max Mosley is today exposed as a secret sado-masochist sex pervert.

The son of infamous British wartime fascist leader Oswald Mosley is filmed romping with five hookers at a depraved NAZI-STYLE orgy in a torture dungeon. Mosley— a friend to F1 big names like Bernie Ecclestone and Lewis Hamilton— barks ORDERS in GERMAN as he lashes girls wearing mock DEATH CAMP uniforms and enjoys being whipped until he BLEEDS. FAMOUS PAL: Max Mosley with Bernie Ecclestone

The multi-millionaire son of Sir Oswald, who was a pal of Adolf Hitler, plays a concentration camp commandant in a FIVE-HOUR torture chamber video.

Mosley—the most powerful man in motor-racing—barks orders in German as he WHIPS two hookers dressed in striped uniforms reminiscent of AUSCHWITZ garb while girls in Nazi uniforms look on.

At one point the wrinkled 67-year-old—who publicly likes to give the impression he has put his father's evil legacy behind him—yells "she needs more of ze punishment!" while brandishing a LEATHER STRAP over a brunette's naked bottom.

Then the lashes rain down as Mosley counts them out in German: "Eins! Zwei! Drei! Vier! Fünf! Sechs!"

With each blow, the girl yelps in pain as grinning, grey-haired Mosley becomes clearly aroused. And after the beating, he makes her perform a sex act on him.

Last month the urbane president of the FIA—Formula One's governing body—hit the headlines when he announced a crackdown on racism in the sport after McLaren ace Lewis Hamilton was abused by Spanish spectators. WIFE: Jean

But on Friday the only ‘crackdowns' married Mosley was interested in were on bare buttocks...including his own. Plaster

Before hammering away at the girls he plays a cowering death camp inmate himself, having his GENITALS inspected and his hair searched for LICE—mocking the humiliating way Jews were treated by SS death camp guards in World War II.

Then, head bowed and tied up in chains, he is interrogated by a dominatrix before being chained up and LASHED so hard over a TORTURE BENCH that he WHIMPERS for mercy and has to have a wound dressing put on his backside.

His Jew-hating father—who had Hitler as guest of honour at his marriage—would have been proud of his warped son's command of German as he struts around looking for bottoms to whack.

But even the vile Thirties fascist—whose blackshirt thugs terrorised London's East End—might have been less impressed with the sordid company his offspring keeps.

Mosley's appointment with his hookers was at a smart £2million riverside flat on London's Chelsea Embankment at noon on Friday.

Our investigators obtained a graphic video of his sick antics.

The girls arrived first, led by the main dominatrix, a stern-faced blonde, carrying a suitcase laden with whips, chains and uniforms. Half an hour later, Mosley—married to devoted wife Jean since 1960—turned up wearing a smart overcoat and suit after making the short walk from his nearby London home.

The 6ft 2in former barrister once helped his father try to restart his political career in the Sixties with a new fascist Union Movement party. He was even a prospective parliamentary candidate himself.

But the party that got his vote on Friday was one involving violent perversion in a rigged-up basement torture dungeon.

After paying £2,500 in cash, Mosley—a good friend of F1 billionaire Bernie Ecclestone—was ordered by the head hooker to strip as she played out his sick fantasy.

"OK, undress," she snapped. "UNDRESS! You are going to be punished to be shown how we treat prisoners in our facility."

As his white Y-fronts hit the floor, the powerfully built blonde barked out her orders: "Head down. Let's see if they have been keeping you clean at the other facility.

"Hurry up! Lie face down! Don't look at me!" Mosley meekly obeyed and was chained and manacled before another blonde dominatrix, wearing only a jacket, shirt and knee-length boots, entered the room.

As another hooker ticked off points on an inspection sheet, she roughly scrutinised his head and private parts before demanding his age. "I'm 42," he whispered, lying to attract a severe beating. He also lied about his name, saying he was called Tim Barnes, so the punishment would be really painful.

He got what he wanted. "You are now going to be punished," hissed the dominatrix. "You are going to receive 12 strokes of the birch plus another three for not telling me your real age. Then you will receive six strokes of the cane."

Mosley was then bent over and strapped naked to a leather torture bench. The muscular blonde dealt him 15 savage blows. Towards the end Mosley was whimpering and gasped for breath. Reddened and bruised, he then received a further six strokes with a cane.

His flogging over, he left the room before saying, "Thank you, mistress". After having his wounds dressed, Mosley makes the transformation from masochist to sadist. Now fully clothed, he bends two blonde girls over the whipping bench, their striped concentration camp-style uniform bottoms yanked down to expose their buttocks.

He converses in German with one girl throughout the torture, loving every minute of death camp role-play, while the other girl pleads: "I don't know what you are saying, so I don't know what to do."

Oxford-educated Mosley has refused to condemn his father who was considered so dangerous he was interned during the war. He once said in an interview: "He was wonderful as a person. But I don't think my father would have made a good dictator. He talked tough but, fundamentally, he was too soft."

Whereas his son is a hard man—especially when it comes to beating girls' naked bottoms. One of the hookers is strapped into a gag to stifle her screams as Mosley lays into her backside in front of the other four girls. With a Nazi swagger, he counts each stroke in German before having sex with his ‘victim'.

A frantic orgy then begins, as a brunette hooker is strapped to a bench before a dominatrix uses a sex toy on her. Later she performs a lesbian act on one of the blondes. Red-faced and panting, Mosley looks on like a child in a sweet shop, but surrounded by bright red bottoms.

The orgy lasted almost five hours and the five hookers spent the final ten minutes laughing and drinking wine together. One said: "The girls have all had a good seeing-to!"

After the sex marathon, Mosley dressed again and had a quick pit-stop, turning down wine in favour of a cup of tea. At 5.05pm, he put on his overcoat and disappeared into the blustery afternoon to resume his other life as Max the respectable motor-racing mogul who will be officiating at the next Formula One Grand Prix in Bahrain next weekend.

It was his wife of 48 years, Jean, who introduced him to his love of motorsport. After meeting him at a fascist Union Movement rally she took him to his first race meeting to watch British ace Stirling Moss.

On choosing the grand prix world—a decision his father opposed as "dangerous and unwise"—over politics, Mosley said: "It was an escape from the political arguments. I got fed up. Nobody knew me in racing, though in Germany and Austria people used to sidle up and whisper, ‘Your father vaz a great man'."

In 2005, Mosley—who has two children, Alexander, 37, and 35-year-old Patrick—was made a Chevalier de la Légion d'Honneur, one of the highest decorations in France, for his services to motor sport. In the late 1970s, he became the official legal adviser to the Formula One Constructors Association (FOCA)—the body that represents the teams.

With his sharp legal mind and devotion to the sport, he soon rose to the top and was first elected president of the Federation Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA) in 1993.

Speaking of his role in the FIA and his friendship with Bernie Ecclestone, he once said: "My job as president of the Federation Internationale de l'Automobile isn't paid. But I've done business with Bernie outside Formula One. In property mainly.

"Money doesn't turn me on and I like to think I can leave whenever I want."

Money doesn't have to turn him on—he's already rich. A multi-millionaire, he has a base in Monaco and a £3 million home in London's fashionable Chelsea. Shadow

As well as inheriting from his father and mother—society beauty and Nazi sympathiser Diana Mitford—he made a fortune selling his shares in March Engineering in 1977.

But the shadow of his Nazi father is always in the background. Mosley Jnr once claimed his father—who died in 1980—disliked Hitler, thinking him "over the top", but he admitted Oswald admired Italian dictator Benito Mussolini.

He said of his mother, who died in 2003: "It was true she liked Hitler. Apparently he was an enormously attractive personality."

Now Mosley has shown his true colours too—and brought a new kind of shame on his already tarnished family name. Evil father was a Hitler wannabe

OSWALD Mosley (right) was the closest thing the UK had to a rabble-rousing Hitler in the years leading up to World War II.

He rallied his blackshirt army of fascists against Jews and Communists. His famous march through London's East End—an area heavily populated by Jews—sparked the infamous Battle of Cable Street in 1936.

Hitler admired him so much he was guest of honour at his wedding to society beauty Diana Mitford, held at the Berlin home of evil Nazi chief Joseph Goebbels.

Max's aunt Unity Mitford was also a devoted Nazi. After Britain declared war on Germany in 1939, she sent a farewell letter to Hitler and shot herself in the head with the pearl-handled pistol the German leader had given her as a gift. She died of her injuries several years later.

I note the video and screengrabs thereof are gone today, methinks the lawyers have been in. And no, I haven't seen it, I've not even read the whole text above (and doubt anyone else here could stomach that moronic writing style for long).

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I didn't know any of that. Well I didn't know that Mosely was related to, err, Mosely.

I suppose the clues were there.

What a horrible bastard he sounds like.

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Biggy on the Run wrote: I didn't know any of that. Well I didn't know that Mosely was related to, err, Mosely.

I suppose the clues were there.

What a horrible bastard he sounds like.

Thing is, I've been saying things about this sort of thing with Max in my usual hyperbolistic manner for quite some time, mainly in jest, but FUCK!

It certainly explaiins how, after 7 world championships, many uncontested (some contested, then suddenly uncontested), Max said Schumacher was good for the sport, in the face of millions yelling otherwise; and then, to say that if Lewis Hamilton "dominates" like he did last year, he will kill F1.

Until quite recently (probably about the time traction control came back because he couldn't or wouldn't stop the Red Cars using it), I had a lot of time for the man. Now though, the sooner he succeeds Jean-Marie Balestre in his next position, the better, wanker.

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Doctor? wrote: See other thread for a better response than you deserve, you numpty :lol:

BTW, as to Maxwell's little indiscression, I think if it'd had been "max gets spank by whores" no-one (with half a brain) would care. If it was "some geezer dresses up as a nazi and plays fucked up games", it may have been mildly worrying. But "son of Hitler's pal and facist leader, governor of a sport where a black chap seems to fall in roses and come up smelling of shite, while a member of the master race could have oponents removed at will, dresses up as a nazi and gets girls to play deathcamp victims". That's not only surreal, it's terrifying. I've kidded about Max being daddy's little fuhrer, but fuck me, this is mental. I was grepping my brain furiously for something that had unsettled it so much before, and the only thing that came up, was the WTC attack (although that was accompanied by sheer terror of WWIII kicking off before teatime), that's the most fucked up thing of all, but in terms of a change in my world, I suppose it makes some sense.

Anyway, whoever said it was right, Brundle for the beeb.

i actually understand what you're saying. probably for the first time ever,lol. who ever this guy is has finally lost it and maybe he needs to lose it in order to get "it" back.

i'm terrified of airplanes and heights. and fuck all, someone will talk me into getting on one of those wind toys and it'll crash into a huge mountain. beads and shit everywhere not to mention bodies. a few scorched pine trees, equipment everywhere. a cow with part of the plane's propeller stuck in its side, the cow still being alive mooing in pain.

oh i should stop now.

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Animadversion wrote: a cow with part of the plane's propeller stuck in its side, the cow still being alive mooing in pain.

NURSSSEEE!...

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I just saw the video clips. What a crazy old coot. Missus Mosley must not be taking care of biz in the bedroom. :D

However, Bernie's comments were a little too cavalier in my opinion. I don't think he realizes what an "f" up this is. We all know that FIA and F1 are officially separate organizations. But, their working relationship is too close for even the most disinterested observer of the sport to ignore.

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I never watched them.

Tell me, ARE there Nazi connotations? As one Journo on Pitpass.com put it "if we are told we are seeing a nazi orgy, that is what we see", and goes on to mention no sign of any swastikas or the like.

IF this is all true, he has to go. But even if it's not true, and he's just an old man who likes whores, he's not done wrong, but at the same time, how the hell can he hand down a fine to a driver for "bringing the sport into disrepute" ever again?

There's trouble today. Bahraini royal family have told him not to attend the race this weekend (which buggers Edd's excellent idea for a Brundle interview) Toyota and Honda have issued typically "dishonoured Japanese" statements. BMW and Mercedes have issued a joint statemet "distancing themselves" from Mr Moseley and his views. And Max has responded by saying (more or less) "Aye, well I'm not surprised you're distancing yourselves considering you two built the Luftwaffe and half the Wermacht".

Oh dear.

Still, there'a a RACE this weekend, remember them?

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Doctor? wrote: I never watched them.

Tell me, ARE there Nazi connotations? As one Journo on Pitpass.com put it "if we are told we are seeing a nazi orgy, that is what we see", and goes on to mention no sign of any swastikas or the like.

IF this is all true, he has to go. But even if it's not true, and he's just an old man who likes whores, he's not done wrong, but at the same time, how the hell can he hand down a fine to a driver for "bringing the sport into disrepute" ever again?

There's trouble today. Bahraini royal family have told him not to attend the race this weekend (which buggers Edd's excellent idea for a Brundle interview) Toyota and Honda have issued typically "dishonoured Japanese" statements. BMW and Mercedes have issued a joint statemet "distancing themselves" from Mr Moseley and his views. And Max has responded by saying (more or less) "Aye, well I'm not surprised you're distancing yourselves considering you two built the Luftwaffe and half the Wermacht".

Oh dear.

Still, there'a a RACE this weekend, remember them?

The film was heavily edited to keep sensitive eyes from seeing too much T&A, but I saw no swastikas. There were women in black pants/skirts and white button down shirts. So, for those who have seen their share of WWII films, there was the hint of SS/Gestapo attire, but no red arm bands. The first part of the tape shows Mosley being stripped, checked for lice and paddled. One of the women coos, "We'll show you how we treat prisoners here." In the next scene, he's dressed in black pants and a white dress shirt and some of the women have changed into white and black striped prison uniforms. Those did resemble what concentration camp prisoners wore. I didn't hear the word "Jew" used. But, that doesn't mean it wasn't in the unedited footage. From what I saw, dude likes to play "fascist prison" from time to time. Does that make him unfit to run FIA?

Who knows.

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Hardly a 'Nazi Torture Chamber' either, more a 'nicely lit and tastefully decorated hotel room in Kensington'...

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But then the Nazi's were more into downright cruelty than actual torture with a purpose, cunts.

Anyways, I've been expending much of my monumental intellect on this for a few days and the bottom line is that no matter what the details are, he DID let himself get filmed getting whipped by whores. How can he EVER hand down judgment upon a driver for "bringing the sport into disrepute".

And right there is the reason he now has to go, no matter what.

Shame, some of his madder ideas were great, the whole business of ruling anything quicker than a Red Car illegal, that I wasn't so fond of.

And the "Hamilton is dominating and dull" thing last year pretty much struck him off my christmas card list for life. Von Cobblers tours round unopposed (though often after the opposition's been banned) for years, people complain, and Max says "oh hush, that's what racing's all about, Von Cobblers is a living legend, you're not really complaining about a lack of competition, you're just upset that YOU'RE guy's not winning". BUT, a new guy winning 4 races by driving his bloody knackers off, and being part of THE most exiting finish since, what? 86? And Max? "if he does that again next year, everyone will switch off and complain". 'twas about then that the ali-g theory popped into me mind "eeeer maxwell ma main man, wos wiv loooooooooISS man? Is it cos e's black?"

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They've all been in court today. Herr Mosely wanted the News of the World to stop showing the video.

The Judge said they may as well carry on, as everyone who's bothered has seen it now anyway.

NoTW responded by putting it back on their website and asking the following questions:

  1. Why are German military uniforms worn?
  2. Why does he issue orders and threats in German to women who cannot speak German?
  3. Why does he deliver and count out beatings in German to women who cannot understand German? 4. Why does he put on a German accent when speaking English?
  4. Why are the victims of these beatings in German made to put on sinister striped uniforms?
  5. Why the head lice inspections, the forced shaving of body hair and the sinister references to inmates being housed in 'facilities'?

Ouch!

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more importantly "why does the notw exist?"

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To make money for it's owners.

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that's a very sensible answer. you should be ashamed of yourself.

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Biggest Thing on Two Wheels wrote: They've all been in court today. Herr Mosely wanted the News of the World to stop showing the video.

The Judge said they may as well carry on, as everyone who's bothered has seen it now anyway.

NoTW responded by putting it back on their website and asking the following questions:

  1. Why are German military uniforms worn?
  2. Why does he issue orders and threats in German to women who cannot speak German?
  3. Why does he deliver and count out beatings in German to women who cannot understand German? 4. Why does he put on a German accent when speaking English?
  4. Why are the victims of these beatings in German made to put on sinister striped uniforms?
  5. Why the head lice inspections, the forced shaving of body hair and the sinister references to inmates being housed in 'facilities'?

Ouch!

I'm sorry*, but this is just really fucking funny. For the first time ever I actually feel vaguely interested in motorsport.

Has anyone seen the footage? Do they put on bizarre 'Allo 'Allo accents????

GENIUS!!!!

* - not really, natch.

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Must have cost a fucking fortune.

Shaving body hair?

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