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Biginoil wrote: Mine has been closing down a bit with 'unexpected failure' messages. Never had this before. The messages are always very polite though, so I'm not too offended.

What's the machine? I just had a simillar report from someone else, using a machine I built them with me own hands.....P4 2.4 (hyprthreaded one), 1GB DDR2 Ram, Asus motherboard (SiS chipset one I think), running Windows Indego Core Extreme (everyone should use this as their next XP install, it rocks (for windows natch).)

Any common components? I bet it's the HT processor. It's been a lamb for me on my quad core. Opera on the other hand, has got issues for me in windows.

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Doctor? wrote:

Biginoil wrote: Mine has been closing down a bit with 'unexpected failure' messages. Never had this before. The messages are always very polite though, so I'm not too offended.

What's the machine? I just had a simillar report from someone else, using a machine I built them with me own hands.....P4 2.4 (hyprthreaded one), 1GB DDR2 Ram, Asus motherboard (SiS chipset one I think), running Windows Indego Core Extreme (everyone should use this as their next XP install, it rocks (for windows natch).)

Any common components? I bet it's the HT processor. It's been a lamb for me on my quad core. Opera on the other hand, has got issues for me in windows.

no, sounding more like a gigabyte mobo to me

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Actually, I was thinking more of the HT CPU.

It's a single core unit, but Intel figured it could still do certain calculations on the "down" part of the CPU cycle, while the main registers etc are resetting, so it shows as a dual core. Confused the piss out of me at first.

I've got a gigabyte board at the mo, and after the Asus one I killed, it's like my new best friend.

(something is badly wrong at Asus Towers, they've gone from rock solid boards with brilliant Bios's backed up by first rate tech support.....to flogging wobbly hardware (alledgedly they put "solid state" labels on cheap shite capacitors!! and all) running gibbering BIOS's, and their tech supp is now "yeah, fuck you dude!".....it'll be a while before I buy another one. Especially since the Striker II Extreme cost me £300. It went nuts and while I was packing it for a slow boat to China RMA....I fucked up and bent two pins in the LGA775 flat....waranty void, board fucked).

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i have an ASUS mobo, i have never had another type of mobo, was tempted to go Gigabyte, but nah, i think ASUS rocks, currently have the Asus Striker II Formula nForce 780i, and it is soooooooo soooooo good, excellent performance

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DigiDiz wrote: i have an ASUS mobo, i have never had another type of mobo, was tempted to go Gigabyte, but nah, i think ASUS rocks, currently have the Asus Striker II Formula nForce 780i, and it is soooooooo soooooo good, excellent performance

My M2N32WSpro, that runs as the heart of the Linux box, was a real joy. It's a 680 I think. But, the 790i on the striker II extreme was a nightmare, really really hot, and had gaping FSB holes, making overclocking a major pain in the arse...... I had to run the machine at 430x8 because anything between 350 and 410 was just a total no-boot, so using a 9x multi was basically a no go. Really liked it's ability to specify memory speed by hand instead of just a few multiplier values. But, the crash-free bios is disappeared from their boards, so has dual-bios....hence mine ended up fscked....when a successful BIOS flash mind wiped it. And honestly, their tech support's turned to shit in about the last 12 months by all accounts. The most disturbing thing is this accusation, made I think by Abit, or Gigabyte, that their "solid state capacitors", are actually cheap Chinese wax caps, with expensive Japanese Solid state cap labels on them....shocking and would explain a few of the odd things I experienced. It's not the kind of thing you can say about a competitor without having evidence, lawyers will eat you alive.

Dunno, maybe it's just the 790i chipset that stinks. I've used Asus exclusively since 2003 (previous board was an ECS K7 board, which cost £20, was universally regarded as total shite, and ran flawlessly for over 4 years 24/7....and then died just slowly enough to give me a chance to replace it (capacitors fail, swell, and burst on them))...and to be honest I think that's why I've taken the horrid SIIE so badly....it's like a dog you had from when it was a pup, that suddenly savages your hand.

The Gigabyte has been a revelation, CPU clocks higher (fuck, I got it to bench through 3dmark Vantage at 3.75GHz....not bad on air cooling on a 2.4GHz chip....and it runs prime stable at 3.5....but a teeny bit too hot for me).

The whole shebang....

Gigabyte X48t-DQ6 Intell Q6600 (G0) @ 3.44Ghz BFG 8800GTX Oc2 (626/1000MHz) 2GB Corsair DDR3 1600 (arm, leg, kidney, hence only 2GB for now....I'll get the other 2 in 6 months when it's £20 a gig) OCZ 780W PSU (machine draws 410W with all 4 CPU cores and the GPU pinned to 100%). 2xHitachi 500GB Deskstars (the quietest drive I've ever not heard) Optiarc DVDrw M-audio ozone (but onboard sound for games).

My other box has the Asus M2n,and an Asus cooler, and an Asus videocard....all fabulous.

Next upgrade for me is a Gigantic screen (really torn between monitor and tv....tv=shit res, but monitor=having to run games at it's max res (cos LCD's look cack at anything but "native" res), which is 2600x something= molten GPU. OR I may buy one of the new ATI 4870 video cards. My last ATI card gave me fuck all but ulcers and sleepless nights, but these things are getting 90% the performance of the new NV GTX280's.....but cost less than half was much (you can actually buy a crossfire bundle for about 30quid less than a single 280....basically, you'd need to be a total NV fanboy not to look at them. Besides, I'm building a box for a cow-orker this week using a 4850, so I'llbe able to find out if they're painful.

Anyway, so much for my theory that hyperthreading is the cause of FF3 woes.

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This is my specs for windows x64:

Intel Q6600 3.0ghz Asus Striker II Formula nForce 780i 74gb WD Raptor X 10k (Boot) XFX Geforce 9600GT 300gb Maxtor 16mb cache 250gb Maxtor SATA 4gb Corsair Dominator Twin X-8500 Windows Vista Ultimate (64 bit)

its going good so far, the tv card was naff under xp and 32bit vista, before sp1

it is having its flaky moments with the webcam, not being able to install properly, perhaps six months down the line, I will probably re-install x64 from scratch to see if that solves it. if not, just stick to the free open source ones on the 'net

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Shame you've gone 64.....I'm using Windows Indego Core Extreme 9.1 for my XP.....bloosy wonderful, forces the stupid bugger to run it's kernel and core memory in RAM, whereas it normally obsesses over paging them. Makes it a fair bit snappier.

Also have Vista 32 and Vista 64 stored as images, with one or the other of them on the 2nd partition at any given time, usually 64.

Must say, Vista64 is quite good for gaming....still truly tragic for general use, but games do look nice in DX10.

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This just like a game of tent wee wee between you two, isn't it?

Does it turn you on that other people might read it?

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Biginoil wrote: This just like a game of tent wee wee between you two, isn't it?

Does it turn you on that other people might read it?

Not me really, dunno about him

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Doctor? wrote: Shame you've gone 64.....I'm using Windows Indego Core Extreme 9.1 for my XP.....bloosy wonderful, forces the stupid bugger to run it's kernel and core memory in RAM, whereas it normally obsesses over paging them. Makes it a fair bit snappier.

Also have Vista 32 and Vista 64 stored as images, with one or the other of them on the 2nd partition at any given time, usually 64.

Must say, Vista64 is quite good for gaming....still truly tragic for general use, but games do look nice in DX10.

extremely good for games, flaky for my webcam software

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