And the winner is...

President-elect Obama, of course. :D

They haven't actually called it yet, but there's no way McCain can win after losing Pennsylvania and Ohio.

And now CNN just called it for President-elect Obama...

He did it, he really did it... : :D

Comrade Shampanyov wrote: He did it, he really did it... : :D

Dead inside a year. Some Jesustard will do it cos "the lowahd hates neeeegras"

Representative Barbara Jordan once said that the Constitution did not include her-a Black woman. Dr. King spoke of peering over the mountaintop to the promised land.

For the longest time. a black child who said he or she wanted to be US President was dismissed. Not anymore.

Will it cure our economy tomorrow? No. But it is hope.

Well, definately an impressively run campaign. Disappointed, but yet its been setting up for awhile. Hope he'll be a good president... and there is good possiblity that the Dems might have so much in-fighting, like under Carter, to get any of his large ticket items completed.... one can only hope.

Hopefully it is the start of the end of the cynical bullshit of the Sean Hannity/Rush Limbaugh/worship of the dumb white male demographic, turning it into a bitter minority that will fade into it's diminishing core of dumb rednecks and lower middle class white cliches, just like the KKK faded into a joke after WW2.

A new face for the world, a welcome change.

And maybe it sounds trite, but it is so cool how happy "black people" in my city acted today, how they felt like they finally counted as citizens for the first time in an election in their lives.

John McCain gave an incredibly gracious concession speech...

finally....

WASHINGTON — President Bush has called Barack Obama to congratulate him on winning the presidency.

The two-term Republican president told the Illinois senator upon his historic win: "What an awesome night for you, your family and your supporters."

Awesome.

His Holiness, The Pope wrote: Awesome.

I'm happy. Haven't been in a long while.

Finally white trash and capitalists lost! Heil Obama! I really changed my opinion about this country, which I bemusedly found ultraracist (unless Bush made it so unbearable that any Dem would win).

30 years after hip hop culture sprang up, we got first hip-hopper in da House.

People are out celebrating in the streets here in bamatown...

that is great. Now I can tell you I was afraid of this election; it was hard for me to believe Obama can win, I thought some invisible hand could kick him out. I always find american administration as a too fookin conservative. I was wrong. Obama will be a fresh breath for many people on this crazy planet for sure :) .

Phew, thank the Lord indeed

I don't believe for a second that the Grand Ol' Party didn't chuck this election deliberately. What was that campaign all about? An old man and a lunatic were never going to beat Obama's campaign. Why didn't they put forward a credible candidate? Why didn't they campaign properly?

My theory is that they knew they would struggle to win this time, even by cheating again, so they went all out to post the biggest loss possible in the hope that they can sufficiently undermine BO during his first term to secure a landslide in four years. The Americans will see such Obama's huge majority as a mandate for radical change and the backlash when not-much-changes-at-all when he runs up against the combined powers of big oil and construction, the two houses and the Pentagon as the financial crisis worsens will be very damaging for Obama.

For sure, it was Nice To See the candidate with the most votes win for a change, and very nice to see the Texan wanker with the loud voice who was sitting next to me at breakfast this morning drunkenly crying into his bacon about the end of civilisation as we know it, the collapse of the world economy (no prizes for guessing what industry was paying for his bacon!)

I have no doubt that the best man won, but I have doubts about why it was allowed to happen so convincingly and without a credible fight.

My money's still on a bullet before Easter, but I can see that the so-called Left may be behind one if left to the second half of the term. He's got a lot of credibility to lose, he's made a lot of difficult promises and a lot of people are banking on him to succeed.

More than anyone else before him, Obama will be seen as a president of the people. Massive amounts of campaign money that donated by ordinary citizens, which gives each of them a feeling that they can now expect something in return. The pressure to deliver is crushing and there will be little sympathy for failure.

The only sure thing is that the Republicans will not fall quietly into the role of fair and honest opposition party - the impeachments, dirty tricks and assassination plots will be in full swing before the 70 days are up.

America is a rotten country. Rocking the vote and putting a changeling in the big house won't change that any time soon.

Diamond 383 wrote:

America is a rotten country. Rocking the vote and putting a changeling in the big house won't change that any time soon.

can we just enjoy this for one moment - please?

Not on my watch

obama has his work cut out all right, he has been lumberd with sorting out georges dirty work, iraq and afganistan are both going to be very difficult for him to sort out,and thats before he gets stuck into sorting out the isreal/palestine poison chalice that is the bugbear of american presidents. the fall out of the credit crunch will affect his spending plans as well as any feel good factor. this is all without the very probable threat of assasination. well done to america by the way, thank you for showing us that your not ALL complete fuck ups (usual suspects from both sides excluded)

Firt thing was to have a look at the news today…

Bravo !

(I had croissants for breakfast to celebrate… we do what we can)

Diamond 383 wrote: Not on my watch

But Mickeys American...

this is ace news

would be much better if he's reveals himself to be a she,

Doctor? wrote:

Comrade Shampanyov wrote: He did it, he really did it... : :D

Dead inside a year. Some Jesustard will do it cos "the lowahd hates neeeegras"

B. Hussein is a "Jesustard".

El Jarvo wrote: Watching the news though first thing - why the fcuk did the Germans and French have all-night street parties to celebrate? Aren't we the 51st State anymore? :(

You have Gordon Brown who is from the Labour Party. We, with the Germans, have Angela Merkel (CDU) and Nicolas Sarkozy (UMP), who are conservatives. Obama as President is a hope for us...

Mind, Nicolas Sarkozy is/was W's European best friend when Tony Blair left. And Sarkozy sent most of his campaign staff to learn within the Obama staff how to win an election - true fact.

That said, in my small village, it has been raining for days, it still rains, and nobody celebrated Obama'a victory.

I wish good luck to the man.

A black man in the White House. It makes me think of the white little boy who messed up everything with the good ol'black servant required to put everything in order before grand white man comes back.

I said it, I repeat it: good luck.

And I have a thought for Bin Laden who lost one of his best playground friend...

I would not be surprised if some people call him back to get the White House in four years...

Diamond 383 wrote: I don't believe for a second that the Grand Ol' Party didn't chuck this election deliberately. What was that campaign all about? An old man and a lunatic were never going to beat Obama's campaign. Why didn't they put forward a credible candidate? Why didn't they campaign properly?

My theory is that they knew they would struggle to win this time, even by cheating again, so they went all out to post the biggest loss possible in the hope that they can sufficiently undermine BO during his first term to secure a landslide in four years. The Americans will see such Obama's huge majority as a mandate for radical change and the backlash when not-much-changes-at-all when he runs up against the combined powers of big oil and construction, the two houses and the Pentagon as the financial crisis worsens will be very damaging for Obama.

For sure, it was Nice To See the candidate with the most votes win for a change, and very nice to see the Texan wanker with the loud voice who was sitting next to me at breakfast this morning drunkenly crying into his bacon about the end of civilisation as we know it, the collapse of the world economy (no prizes for guessing what industry was paying for his bacon!)

I have no doubt that the best man won, but I have doubts about why it was allowed to happen so convincingly and without a credible fight.

My money's still on a bullet before Easter, but I can see that the so-called Left may be behind one if left to the second half of the term. He's got a lot of credibility to lose, he's made a lot of difficult promises and a lot of people are banking on him to succeed.

More than anyone else before him, Obama will be seen as a president of the people. Massive amounts of campaign money that donated by ordinary citizens, which gives each of them a feeling that they can now expect something in return. The pressure to deliver is crushing and there will be little sympathy for failure.

The only sure thing is that the Republicans will not fall quietly into the role of fair and honest opposition party - the impeachments, dirty tricks and assassination plots will be in full swing before the 70 days are up.

America is a rotten country. Rocking the vote and putting a changeling in the big house won't change that any time soon.

Its a shame you feel that way as everything really points away from what you are saying. McCain was the most viable candidate to run when the Republican title was dispised so much because of Bush. He was neck and neck up until the moment the economy took its downturn, to which he never recovered. Plus McCain received 47% of the popular vote, regardless of the hate and disapproval rating for Bush and the Republican name (not bad considering over 50% of the country is registered Democrat). Elections weren't "stolen" in the past, the main problem Democrates have is that thier base tends to be very unreliable to show up at the polls to vote (young and minority voters). That is where Gore and Kerry really failed and Obama succeeded... getting the unreliables to actually vote and wait in line. All politics are ugly, regardless of country.

You're putting "stolen" in quotes, as if that's what I said.

What I actually said was CHEATING, which is different. Florida CHEATED in 2000, by taking fifty-odd thousand perfectly eligible voters off the register and then by ignoring the Constitution and recounting the votes until the Governor's brother won. That's not stealing, it's cheating.

If that's the best the GOP had to offer, then I feel sorry for them. Really.

Don't feel too bad. We've had a few years of so-called "Socialist" rule here in the UK and we've done all right. We still get plenty of wars and the oil price is crippling and the government can't tell the truth about anything. Most of us have hardly noticed the difference

Diamond 383 wrote: You're putting "stolen" in quotes, as if that's what I said.

What I actually said was CHEATING, which is different. Florida CHEATED in 2000, by taking fifty-odd thousand perfectly eligible voters off the register and then by ignoring the Constitution and recounting the votes until the Governor's brother won. That's not stealing, it's cheating.

If that's the best the GOP had to offer, then I feel sorry for them. Really.

Sorry, stolen and cheating are used interchangably here by the Dems to explain the 2000 election. The dismissal of votes in a county with too many problems with ballots is not unusual, but it usually receives no press because the margins are never as close as they were in Florida.

Don't feel too bad. We've had a few years of so-called "Socialist" rule here in the UK and we've done all right. We still get plenty of wars and the oil price is crippling and the government can't tell the truth about anything. Most of us have hardly noticed the difference

Via peaceful means the wound of slavery is almost healed.

It's an amazing moment in history.

:baloon:

DigitalWaters wrote: Via peaceful means the wound of slavery is almost healed.

It's an amazing moment in history.

:baloon:

"...almost..." Really??? Uh, as Erik B. and Rakim used to say, that's Paid in Full. http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZElWBsoyvUo

DigitalWaters wrote: Via peaceful means the wound of slavery is almost healed.

It's an amazing moment in history.

:baloon:

Diamond 383 wrote: America is a rotten country. Rocking the vote and putting a changeling in the big house won't change that any time soon.

Aye, only in America a man has a chance. In class-divided England, it's given that you can't get a certain status or position, unless you belong to upper classes or bourgeoisie, cannot even think of it. Of course, England is a monarchy and it's understandable that socially it's very antihuman. No wonder such men as Richard Aldington fled the country. You don't have a sense of being "united"; it's absolutely alien to English mentality.

I have to say that today, I feel very, very proud to be an American.

Here in Columbus, Ohio, last night, people were literally dancing in the streets when it was announced that Obama won. I was downtown at the official Democratic Election party watching Obama's speech with hundreds of party members, campaign workers, Governor Strickland, Mayor Coleman, and lots of ordinary citizens. People were cheering, crying, and when Obama finished his speech, dancing.

Yes, we can. We did. And we will.

I am always proud to be an American...

But so many things here in the United States have gone so very wrong in the past 8 years. We've had a President who made astonishingly poor decisions, favorored cronyism for the rich over serving the people, and who encouraged a culture of overwhelming negativity and xenophobia, and brought out in Americans what I feel are the worst aspects of human nature.

Last night, the people of America showed the world that we are not an intolerant people who refuse to listen to reason. Barack Obama is an intelligent, compassionate, educated, caring man who has shown inspiring amounts of integrity, good judgement, and good character. I believe that Obama, through his actions and beliefs, appeals to the best aspects of human nature, and to the best aspects of the American character.

The American people showed the world that perhaps Dr. King's dream is come closer to being a reality than any of us could have imagined would happen....because las night, the American people elected a young-ish Black man with a non traditional sounding name, and they did so not by judging the color of his skin, but by judging the content of his character.

As the son of a blue collar working class American family and a lifelong supporter of the Democratic Party, I am full of hope that Obama will be a strong leader for the American people, that he can inspire us all to work together, regardless of party, to create a better America, and to be a leader for goodness in the world.

Obama's campaign inspired a sense of hope and community in the American people that has not been seen for a very long time. The spirit of this campaign must not end with the election. As Obama said:

"We haven't made the change, only secured the possibility of making the change. Now the real work begins".

I hope and pray that the work Obama speaks of will result in a better America. For the first time in 8 years, I am excited about my goverment, and I fell optimistic about America. I have not been happy with what America has been for the past 8 years, and with the awful things we have done in the past...

But I have always been in love with the idea of what the United States can be. With this election, for the first time in my life, I feel like we are moving closer to not only the dream that Dr. King spoke of, but also of the greater American dream of a country with compassionate goverment that is by the people and for the people. For all people, regardless of thier race, ethnicity, sexuality, political views,and religion. I am hopeful that we may move closer to making that dream a reality.

Now the real work begins. The American people did not let Obama down. We raised him up and helped him make history.

Now its time for Barack Obama to keep his end of the deal, and raise up the American people, and provide a strong and positive role model for the world.

I hope he will not let us down. But given a man of Obama's integrity, I don't think he will. I have hope. Hope can make lot happen.

ZAS

PS - Senator McCains concession speech was classy and inspiring. Now that the election of over, hopefully John McCain can go back to being himself.

Zachery Starkey wrote:

PS - Senator McCains concession speech was classy and inspiring. Now that the election of over, hopefully John McCain can go back to being himself.

It was disappointing to see him go to the right, but he really had no choice in the matter; at least if he wanted a real shot at the presidency.

What concerns me is if this election proves that a middle-of-the-road politician, in that they aren't fully entreanched in thier own party, can not become president. I'm not saying its not possible, but both parties will note how McCain's campaign just didn't work fluidly because of it. Most campaigns are either fully right or left, then for the election are forced to the middle to pick up moderates (which confuses people in thinking the candidates are real moderates). Clinton was left, moved center for election; Bush was right, moved center for the election; Obama is left, moved center for the election. McCain was more center, not right enough, and moved right for the election. I fear we will see from here, more concretely, on out that we will have extremes in office... extreme right, then left, then right then left.... but then maybe a moderate truely is just a pipedream.

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Diamond 383 wrote: America is a rotten country. Rocking the vote and putting a changeling in the big house won't change that any time soon.

Aye, only in America a man has a chance. In class-divided England, it's given that you can't get a certain status or position, unless you belong to upper classes or bourgeoisie, cannot even think of it. Of course, England is a monarchy and it's understandable that socially it's very antihuman. No wonder such men as Richard Aldington fled the country. You don't have a sense of being "united"; it's absolutely alien to English mentality.

Don't ever buy a gun. That is so far wide of the mark.

this is the first time in a long time that i'm proud to be an american.

Comrade Shampanyov wrote: He did it, he really did it... : :D

In the words of Gretton in Control, Fooking hallelujah!

I was so relieved and exhausted. Will the economy and Bush's mess be all gone tomorrow? Nope. But there is finally some hope.

It reminds me Bill Hick celebrating when Bush 41 went down. No more Old Testament God on the President's speed dial.

Now to overturn the Mormons and Prop 8. Those Bushites are on the wrong side of History!!

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Diamond 383 wrote: America is a rotten country. Rocking the vote and putting a changeling in the big house won't change that any time soon.

Aye, only in America a man has a chance. In class-divided England, it's given that you can't get a certain status or position, unless you belong to upper classes or bourgeoisie, cannot even think of it. Of course, England is a monarchy and it's understandable that socially it's very antihuman. No wonder such men as Richard Aldington fled the country. You don't have a sense of being "united"; it's absolutely alien to English mentality.

Thank fuck im Scottish

LiamShed wrote:

Now to overturn the Mormons and Prop 8. Those Bushites are on the wrong side of History!!

Don't forget the 70% of blacks that are Dems you'll have to overturn as well