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All the porn you've downloaded Shug

By the way got any more ?

Problem is.....Macroshaft fill windows with all sorts of booby-traps, so "a windows cd" is no good, it must be the precise same version that's installed. I take it the thieves that sold her the machine charged her for windows and gave her no CD? Wankers.

Think you might need to start over. If you do, download windows indego, it'll go on easier and hurt less.

Shug do you still have the project clips?

ShugZV wrote: Ma computer's deid as a dodo.

Something about WINDOWS SYSTEM 32 File corrupt. It can be fixed by having a windows CD rom and pressing "r" upon re-booting?

I am hoping to get a CD Rom from one of the IT lads from here.

Is this easily fixable?

Tar in advance

It depends on whether you can google that error message, and a lot of people swear by it, that you have a chance

But just as I google it myself, I came up with this

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/3546

Hope it helps you

DigiDiz wrote:

ShugZV wrote: Ma computer's deid as a dodo.

Something about WINDOWS SYSTEM 32 File corrupt. It can be fixed by having a windows CD rom and pressing "r" upon re-booting?

I am hoping to get a CD Rom from one of the IT lads from here.

Is this easily fixable?

Tar in advance

It depends on whether you can google that error message, and a lot of people swear by it, that you have a chance

But just as I google it myself, I came up with this

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/3546

Hope it helps you

I'd avoid "the easy way" mentioned there if you have done much tweaking or if you have any "exotic" hardware....tv cards...internal modems, anything more than video, sound and network. Basically windows can be an immense fucktard about that "last known good config", it has a nasty habit of returning the machine to virtually the day it was born. It has worked for me before on other people's machines when the next step was a mindwipe anyway. "The hard way" is much more likely to work.....but FFS don't mis-typ.

One further note on this, you may have to re-install certain software, but at least, if you haven't backupped any important data/documents/pictures etc......at least they will survive the "resetting" of the registry.

There is another thing. If you have had System restore enabled, you just maybe in luck to the fact you may get the system back to its original state before the corruption of the file. I have done this on one of my work's computer, to the lack of real appreciation from the boss (wanker)

I cannot guarantee you will get everything back to the state before the problem began

Let us know if it is the problem, and if it has solved it with that website, but before you do that. Do read up the Microsoft website to see if it really is relevant

Doctor? wrote:

DigiDiz wrote:

ShugZV wrote: Ma computer's deid as a dodo.

Something about WINDOWS SYSTEM 32 File corrupt. It can be fixed by having a windows CD rom and pressing "r" upon re-booting?

I am hoping to get a CD Rom from one of the IT lads from here.

Is this easily fixable?

Tar in advance

It depends on whether you can google that error message, and a lot of people swear by it, that you have a chance

But just as I google it myself, I came up with this

http://www.dslreports.com/faq/3546

Hope it helps you

I'd avoid "the easy way" mentioned there if you have done much tweaking or if you have any "exotic" hardware....tv cards...internal modems, anything more than video, sound and network. Basically windows can be an immense fucktard about that "last known good config", it has a nasty habit of returning the machine to virtually the day it was born. It has worked for me before on other people's machines when the next step was a mindwipe anyway. "The hard way" is much more likely to work.....but FFS don't mis-typ.

I second that, plus you can copy and paste this into a little batch file, which will do it automatically

He's CorbyOrder mate, he thinks a batch file is a little black book with ladies' contact details. (or possible a tool of some kind).

Besides, not wishing to state the obvious (to we geeks anyway), but given that you have to boot from the windos cd...where would you be putting this batchfile exactly? Isn't the patient machine stone dead? so he can't save it there from windos before attempting a repair. And will the recovery console let you exec arbitary scripts from any old where?

Sorry, computer pessimism......been arguing with an HD Freesat capable TV card for 3 days, Linux doesn't quite support it just yet....but that's OK, the makers gave me a CD of stuff to make it go in windows......YEAHRIGHT.....after 2 hours of fucking around with installing and reinstalling drivers and software....I got it to draw a blue box with a yellow button, the yellow button is momentary in nature and turns blue while activated. Nothing else happens. I fucking hate computers sometimes. Dr's list of evil hardware....

Scanners Printers TVcards PCI "modems" and 90% of USB "modems" And especially A multifunction anything EDIT... Oh and anything with a USB lead on anything earlier than XP sp2.

Daleks? Cybermen? Zygons?

Pussies! THIS timelord lies awake at night in a cold sweat worrying about the call that may come from a friend...."my USB multifunction scanner/printer/camera-dock/teasmade doesn't work right on my windows 95" Fortunately, there is the little known sonic hatchet.

Doctor? wrote: He's CorbyOrder mate, he thinks a batch file is a little black book with ladies' contact details. (or possible a tool of some kind).

Besides, not wishing to state the obvious (to we geeks anyway), but given that you have to boot from the windos cd...where would you be putting this batchfile exactly? Isn't the patient machine stone dead? so he can't save it there from windos before attempting a repair. And will the recovery console let you exec arbitary scripts from any old where?

Sorry, computer pessimism......been arguing with an HD Freesat capable TV card for 3 days, Linux doesn't quite support it just yet....but that's OK, the makers gave me a CD of stuff to make it go in windows......YEAHRIGHT.....after 2 hours of fucking around with installing and reinstalling drivers and software....I got it to draw a blue box with a yellow button, the yellow button is momentary in nature and turns blue while activated. Nothing else happens. I fucking hate computers sometimes. Dr's list of evil hardware....

Scanners Printers TVcards PCI "modems" and 90% of USB "modems" And especially A multifunction anything EDIT... Oh and anything with a USB lead on anything earlier than XP sp2.

Daleks? Cybermen? Zygons?

Pussies! THIS timelord lies awake at night in a cold sweat worrying about the call that may come from a friend...."my USB multifunction scanner/printer/camera-dock/teasmade doesn't work right on my windows 95" Fortunately, there is the little known sonic hatchet.

Erm. Easy, startup files on a USB flash drive, (just make sure no important files are on it first. Boot up from the flash drive

What flavour of Linux have you got? Ubuntu?

ShugZV wrote: I cannae even get to the hard bit, cos when I do a system restore the computer crashes.

Used the missus' computer to buy a disc off Ebay (PC Fixit) which says is guaranteed to get into yer hard drive so I can access files and fix the problem :\ohwell:

So cheers for the tips lads, hopefully I will be able to sort this out when I get home

And Mike, I have no idea if all my neworder files are safe or not, will let you know mate.

Does your other machine have a CD burner?

www.knoppix.org

Once PC fix it fails (and it will), download and burn knoppix, boot with it. Yes it is linux, but what it will give you is a great big working desktop with access to your old hard disc.

Piece of piss....put disc in, wait, use computer as normal.....get your files off it, then wipe it and start again.

Diz: Gentoo, source based, an arse to install, but an absolute joy to live with. Ubuntu's a bit windows for me.

best of Luck-Shugster. But I suppose some of the England Order would say "Well He IS from Corby!" *ducks*

Chris Nash wrote: Two lessons to be learned wee Shuglet:

1. Don't use Windows

2. Regularly back up your files on an external drive

But this is not enough. You should have at least TWO back ups of everything. Whether it be 2 external hard-drives, or one and DVDs.

My external hard drive went tits up and I lost all my family videos. Gutted. Also note that most hard drives have a lifespan of 3 years. So if your computer is 3 years or older you might want to consider back ups.

ShugZV wrote: No burner on the other machine mate. So i am in a bit of limbo here from what yer saying.

HOPEFULLY I can fix it mate.

Well, two options......

1. I can send you a knoppix CD. or
2. You drop the side off of it, take the hard disc out, put it in another machine that already has a working windos and rescue the stuff that way. Don't worry, swapping a hard drive is easy peasy. (you could even buy a wee adaptor thing for about £20 that'll let you plug the corrupted drive into another machine via USB.)

The chances are VERY great that all your data is fine and it's only windows that's broken itself. Just be VERY fucking careful about what pcfixit wants to do.

If REALLY stuck, take the drive out and send it to me, if there is actually anything on it to save, I will be able to get it.

This bad boy is what you need

Take the drive outta the corpse, attach it to this, plug it into another PC, copy all the stuff you need to keep to that machine, then wipe the bonkers drive, pop it back in it's old home and start over with a fresh windows (download windows indego, you will not be sorry....course you need a dvd burner to make it).

One other thing comes to mind.....does the sick machine ALWAYS throw the same error? If you leave it on the bios screen (you know where you press delete to enter setup, right at the very start of the machine switching on), will it keep running and responding indefinitely.

If the answer to either of those is "no" then it may actually be your memory that's fucked, not your drive (windos is a fucktard at getting errors right.....odd since it has so much fucking practice).

and you phoned me for help on Saturday Shug? I dont understand a bastard word of any of the above!

remember I am the bloke who thought the initials LOL were someone saying lots of love to me

hope it all works well Shuglet ( wee ) and in addition nobody tries to tell me why it worked okay etc

as for our resident Doctor? I am on much safer ground with talk of two day old stew and the errors of the micro-ping methinks

greetings wee shug from ourkid to you and yours

Garymac is REAL slim SHADY(less)

NO Regret wrote:

Chris Nash wrote: Two lessons to be learned wee Shuglet:

1. Don't use Windows

2. Regularly back up your files on an external drive

But this is not enough. You should have at least TWO back ups of everything. Whether it be 2 external hard-drives, or one and DVDs.

My external hard drive went tits up and I lost all my family videos. Gutted. Also note that most hard drives have a lifespan of 3 years. So if your computer is 3 years or older you might want to consider back ups.

Disc capacity increases too.

So what I do is buy a drive, and then a coupla years later, buy a bigger one, copy all the shite onto that one, and put the old one away somewhere as a backup.

External wise I currently have 6xfreecom 500GB fully external jobs, and a 1TB Seagate (not that I LIKE seagate) ordinary internal SATA drive, but connected to the machine via something simillar to the little drive adaptor dibber I linked above (though you just drop the drive into this one....like a games console cartridge sort of thing). I will, after Chrimbo at some point, buy another 3 1TB drives and copy the contents of the 6x500's to them. In a couple of years, all that will go onto some 2TB drives, giving me triple backup. Of the 4TB of space on the externals, I've used about 3TB, and nearly a whole TB of that is backups of games and most importantly of live OS's. Eg....I have a backup of XP "as installed", then one of it "installed and beaten into tolerable shape" then a "rolling" backup...ie one made every now and then, of windows in it's current condition. Then I have the same for Vista32 and the same for Vista64. Linux is a bit different, I maintain a fairly out of date-ish backup of my / (called "root") partition, which is sort of the equiv of C:\Windows and C:\Program Files. It doesn't need to be TOO up to date, because one command can update all the actual software to the current versions automagically....BUT I must keep a much more recent copy of /etc (sort of a human readable version of the windows registry file system.dat, it's a folder full of little text files that define your system, set things up and so on...all easy to read and edit and your spade will DEFINITELY be configured by a file called /etc/spade.conf :D ). Then I also take very regular backups of /home/steve (the equiv of c:\Documents and Settings plus the registry file user.dat....it's where all "my" settings are, my email folders, browser caches, my downloads directory, and all my personal settings....say I like my spade with a longer handle than the system default spade defined in /etc/spade.conf...I can have /home/steve/spade.conf so that "my" spade is how I like it). By rights, bits of /home and /etc should be backed up every day, but since software failure is not a realistic possibility, I only have the rare (touch wood) occurrence of hardware failure to shite myself about.

I try to keep games backed up as well. I never install them on the same drive as windows, as this makes it a lot easier. My game installations are like living, growing entities, that I could never recreate from scratch. For example my installation of Grand Prix Legends lasted from 2001 until earlier this year...outlasting dozens of windows reinstalls and even the transition from 98-ME-2000-XP. It got mangled, and not of the backups would sit happily with the little launcher program that selected mods for the game (like 1969 or 1966 cars) and I had to start over.....very distressing. I went from over 150 circuits and all the best graphics for the default ones, to just the default tracks and only slightly updated graphics for them (the default gfx are tragic looking these days.....made in 1997 after all).

Anyway, all of the above is pointless, but if it wasted five mins of your life, remember it wasted 15 of mine typing it ;)

SHUG: Don't do anything rash with PC Fucks-It, no formatting, no severe lookin disc repairs it may offer you. If a simple fix (like dropping a non fucked copy of the system file back in (and I cannae see how fix it will be able to do that for you, and even if it does, it may have to get it from that windows cd, which is a wrong version====BOOM!)), doesn't cut the mustard.....send me the drive, I will save the contents....if there is New Order at stake, and geeking to be done, I'm yer boy, I can connect any kind of drive, read any kind of disc format, and have enough free space to house any amount of refugee data.

And "the hard way" fix (basically dropping an unfucked copy of the file in ;) ).....I think you did it wrong....the machine shouldn't be trying to run it's windows, it should start up from the CD and be running the windows setup thing from there (until you hit whatever key it offers to boot to the recovery console (NOT AUTOMATED SYSTEM RECOVERY!!! never seen that leave less damage than it started with!)). If it's working right, the first thing you should see after the power-on screen is "press any key to boot from cd". If not, you need to look at the options mentioned at the bottom of the VERY first thing you see when you switch on.....it should say something like...... "F2 enter setup F10 somethingorother F8 Boot menu" If it has a boot menu option, hit the appropriate key and manually select the cdrom. if not, the hit the key for "enter setup" and look for the boot options (and the rest of it "IST NICHT FUR GERFINGERPOKEN!!!!"), set CD "before" hard disc.,,,save and exit.

SHED wrote: Garymac is REAL slim SHADY(less)

greetings ROCKET de LA SOUL, SHUGLET is Three feet HIGH and rising. hear YOU closed your BAR before he got a ROUND in

CHORLEY dont SURF

ADIEU GaryMac

nice one re; the Clash wee Shug

Oh dear. Was formatting involved? (if not, the actual data may still be there, an only windows itself would be affected).

PM me your address and I'll sort out this annoying serial number business for you.