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Starting to suspect that something may have got lost in translation from the original Russian propaganda tract he was quoting......
Some in green and white may have you believe that Shinsuke Nakamura is an Oriental Wizard. Others may be more inclined towards Ken Hom :)
In Great Britain, they came first for the immigrants, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t an immigrant;
And then they came for the ravers, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a raver;
And then they came for the drug-takers, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a drug-taker;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up.
Diamond 383 wrote: In Great Britain, they came first for the immigrants, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t an immigrant;
And then they came for the ravers, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a raver;
And then they came for the drug-takers, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a drug-taker;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up.
still got me sweet yam's though(sure thats the poem i did in school which you've 'borrowed')
Diamond 383 wrote: In Great Britain, they came first for the immigrants, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t an immigrant;
And then they came for the ravers, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a raver;
And then they came for the drug-takers, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a drug-taker;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up.
still got me sweet yam's though(sure thats the poem i did in school which you've 'borrowed')
i teach that poem! 'not my business'? the poet leant heavily on an original poem about the dangers of political apathy and the rise of the nazi party, which is what biggy has borrowed...
it is, of course, as poignant and meaningful when applied to aberdeen party people as the holocaust.
but never as affecting as when used by HMHB in 'turn a blind eye':
"they came for dani behr, i said she’s over there, behind the wardrobe"
From time to time, trudging through the dross that gets posted on here, you come across something that really makes you smile.
Can't be long now 
bloodynora wrote:
it is, of course, as poignant and meaningful when applied to aberdeen party people as the holocaust.
The holocaust didn't start with vast industrial murder facilities though, it started with men on street corners "protecting" the people.
The really scary thing is that historically, dodgy ecconomic times breed stupidity and extremism :(
Who would The Party(uk) set up as a scapegoat anyway? I mean terrorists are good enough for now, but sooner or later people will want a more tangible evil to yell at in the two minutes hate and to be "protected" from. It'll be hard for them to single out a group based on religion or ethnicity as they are currently straining at the opposite (ie, the PC) end of that spectrum as a means of repression.
PS Colin.....aren't you ALL of the things you listed[1]?
When they came for the ravers....I was fuckin long gone! ;)
[1] OK, movin to the 'deen isn't exactly migration, but poetic license etc.
Is someone seriously trying to sum up this country by drawing on Guy Ritchie films?
What about that one where Madonna gets stranded on a desert island?
Fachking 'ell, you muppet.
bloodynora wrote: i teach that poem! 'not my business'? the poet leant heavily on an original poem about the dangers of political apathy and the rise of the nazi party, which is what biggy has borrowed...
it is, of course, as poignant and meaningful when applied to aberdeen party people as the holocaust.
but never as affecting as when used by HMHB in 'turn a blind eye':
"they came for dani behr, i said she’s over there, behind the wardrobe"
yes! thats it thanks,
ahh it takes me back..
where you teach?
Ally wrote: Is someone seriously trying to sum up this country by drawing on Guy Ritchie films?
What about that one where Madonna gets stranded on a desert island?
Fachking 'ell, you muppet.
That's alright....wait till he starts on you (trainspotting) and me (darby o'gill and the little people/finnegans rainbow/resurection man). Where's Darren so he can tell him all about Twin Town.
bloodynora wrote: ID cards will this month become compulsory for non-EU nationals, and early next year for 'high-risk' workers, prior to voluntary schemes for students. the way things are going it really, really won't be long before we are all compelled to have one.
Aren't we one of the only countries in Europe that doesn't have an ID card yet? I'm struggling to think of another country in Europe that doesn't...
In addition, there are numerous circumstances in everyday life where an ID card of some description is required (currently a passport/driving license) before buying alcohol at a supermarket, or picking up mail from the post office, or checking into a hotel, etc, etc... It's the one reason I chose to get a provisional drivers license! :p
All an ID card does is avoid the need to carry your passport/driving license around to prove you are who you say you are, doesn't it?
ID cards are fine, BUT. With this lot, we'll get all the hassles and none of the benefits (eg, a passport will still be needed for EU travel, whereas many other EU ID cards would be considered acceptable).
And of course it will eventually be an offence not to carry one.....and that's when it gets scary.
And of course once you put all your efforts into this wonderful security panacea....once it's compromised, yer fucked.
Doctor? wrote: And of course it will eventually be an offence not to carry one.....and that's when it gets scary.
Isn't that the case in the rest of Europe? (A genuine question, I don't know the answer to that)
Nick King wrote:
Doctor? wrote: And of course it will eventually be an offence not to carry one.....and that's when it gets scary.
Isn't that the case in the rest of Europe? (A genuine question, I don't know the answer to that)
In a couple of places but generally they are voluntary. Then again, other parts of europe eat snails and stab bulls for fun, and I don't fancy that shite either.
Doctor? wrote: ID cards are fine, BUT. With this lot, we'll get all the hassles and none of the benefits (eg, a passport will still be needed for EU travel, whereas many other EU ID cards would be considered acceptable).
"You will be able to travel on an ID Card within Europe, just as currently many Europeans travel to the UK on their ID Cards. Beyond that, you will still need a passport."
Nick King wrote:
Doctor? wrote: ID cards are fine, BUT. With this lot, we'll get all the hassles and none of the benefits (eg, a passport will still be needed for EU travel, whereas many other EU ID cards would be considered acceptable).
"You will be able to travel on an ID Card within Europe, just as currently many Europeans travel to the UK on their ID Cards. Beyond that, you will still need a passport."
Fair enough, though the note we have in work to the same effect has lots of if's and but's.
Can tell you one very good thing against ID cards.....guess who'll you'll have to talk to if you have any questions about them :D
ID cards will carry two fingerprints and a facial scan. if completed, the NIR would be the world’s biggest biometric database, holding 52 pieces of information on every adult who remains in the UK for longer than three months.
Rick Banks wrote:
yes! thats it thanks,
ahh it takes me back..
where you teach?
norf lincs. that pome is in the gcse anthology of poetry for one of the most popular exam boards. it's a classroom classic.
bloodynora wrote:
Rick Banks wrote:
yes! thats it thanks,
ahh it takes me back..
where you teach?
norf lincs. that pome is in the gcse anthology of poetry for one of the most popular exam boards. it's a classroom classic.
I'm going to be a teacher soon, too.
Well let's hope that you don't spout the same sort of uninformed bollocks to your pupils as you do on here then!
Do not blame him too quickly.
Mind, he was born in former USSR and he lives now in the USA where they just have elected a coloured person who had promised so many changes... I think there is a wave of euphoria over there and that this would be followed by a kind of hangover. Everything should get into place at that time...
Now talking about integration of minorities - I do not know if it was the same by the time of the British empire, but at that time there was more coloured people in French politics than now. Not only there was more coloured people as representives, but there was also coloured ministers (and not only second range ministries). And that was by the fifties, beginning of the sixties... And those people were elected by people, not appointed by the President like it is by now...
To continue. The piece of poetry of this German priest is a lesson of history. Something to keep preciously in mind.
And to get back on subject. I do not know who said that but is something alike : people who agree on the fact to loose some liberties for their own security are people designed to become some kind of slaves. I totally agree.
And I may add that, if there are too many disorders in the society, something done previously had been made incorrectly. The best way to keep a society sane is to keep the balance fairly right.
