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Crikey :computer2:

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Hmmmm....makes you wonder! Since he moved in, I have been blaming my Son for messing up the network by connecting his playstation wirelessly - maybe I owe him an apology then! This has been playing up for weeks......

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What's Internet Explorer???

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Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: What's Internet Explorer???

Jeff are you a MODERATOR? can you MOVE around the forums or is it BCD?:scratch:

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I'm down with OPP!!!

Other than that, I've not got a clue what you are talking about Rocketman!

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Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: I'm down with OPP!!!

Other than that, I've not got a clue what you are talking about Rocketman!

Can you delete the 3 bogus spamming files on EACH of the forums that have appeared within the LAST hour?Bet you are too busy on the LINK thread itself.:nono: :lol:

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I'm leaving one of them...

it's interesting!!!

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Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: I'm leaving one of them...

it's interesting!!!

Nuts NEW forum and website i BET!:D :clap:

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Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: What's Internet Explorer???

I don't use IE anyway. I'm fireing the fox. Errr...

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Rocket Mick wrote:

Jeffari-al-Texani wrote: I'm leaving one of them...

it's interesting!!!

Nuts NEW forum and website i BET!:D :clap:

:nono: what new website? neworderinfoweb.piczo.com dont know what yer on about http://neworderinfoweb.piczo.com

:nuts:

http://neworderinfoweb.piczo.com

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While I should be glad that The Beast has finally decided to agree with me that IE is the biggest pile of crapware ever rammed down the necks of innocent windows victims.....two more urgent things are battling for my attention......

  1. I didn't see this on El-Reg today, so it's either from weeks ago, or total nonsense.

  2. It uses the word "hacker" in the Macroshaft "scare people away from free software" way.........

Correct definition

hacker: n.

[originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe]

  1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. RFC1392, the Internet Users' Glossary, usefully amplifies this as: A person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular.

  2. One who programs enthusiastically (even obsessively) or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming.

  3. A person capable of appreciating hack value.

  4. A person who is good at programming quickly.

  5. An expert at a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it; as in ‘a Unix hacker’. (Definitions 1 through 5 are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.)

  6. An expert or enthusiast of any kind. One might be an astronomy hacker, for example.

  7. One who enjoys the intellectual challenge of creatively overcoming or circumventing limitations.

  8. [deprecated] A malicious meddler who tries to discover sensitive information by poking around. Hence password hacker, network hacker. The correct term for this sense is cracker.

The term ‘hacker’ also tends to connote membership in the global community defined by the net (see the network. For discussion of some of the basics of this culture, see the How To Become A Hacker FAQ. It also implies that the person described is seen to subscribe to some version of the hacker ethic (see hacker ethic).

It is better to be described as a hacker by others than to describe oneself that way. Hackers consider themselves something of an elite (a meritocracy based on ability), though one to which new members are gladly welcome. There is thus a certain ego satisfaction to be had in identifying yourself as a hacker (but if you claim to be one and are not, you'll quickly be labeled bogus). See also geek, wannabee.

This term seems to have been first adopted as a badge in the 1960s by the hacker culture surrounding TMRC and the MIT AI Lab. We have a report that it was used in a sense close to this entry's by teenage radio hams and electronics tinkerers in the mid-1950s.

What they were after was........

CRACKER

cracker: n.

One who breaks security on a system. Coined ca. 1985 by hackers in defense against journalistic misuse of hacker (q.v., sense 8). An earlier attempt to establish worm in this sense around 1981--82 on Usenet was largely a failure.

Use of both these neologisms reflects a strong revulsion against the theft and vandalism perpetrated by cracking rings. The neologism “cracker” in this sense may have been influenced not so much by the term “safe-cracker” as by the non-jargon term “cracker”, which in Middle English meant an obnoxious person (e.g., “What cracker is this same that deafs our ears / With this abundance of superfluous breath?” — Shakespeare's King John, Act II, Scene I) and in modern colloquial American English survives as a barely gentler synonym for “white trash”.

While it is expected that any real hacker will have done some playful cracking and knows many of the basic techniques, anyone past larval stage is expected to have outgrown the desire to do so except for immediate, benign, practical reasons (for example, if it's necessary to get around some security in order to get some work done).

Thus, there is far less overlap between hackerdom and crackerdom than the mundane reader misled by sensationalistic journalism might expect. Crackers tend to gather in small, tight-knit, very secretive groups that have little overlap with the huge, open poly-culture this lexicon describes; though crackers often like to describe themselves as hackers, most true hackers consider them a separate and lower form of life. An easy way for outsiders to spot the difference is that crackers use grandiose screen names that conceal their identities. Hackers never do this; they only rarely use noms de guerre at all, and when they do it is for display rather than concealment.

Ethical considerations aside, hackers figure that anyone who can't imagine a more interesting way to play with their computers than breaking into someone else's has to be pretty losing. Some other reasons crackers are looked down on are discussed in the entries on cracking and phreaking. See also samurai, dark-side hacker, and hacker ethic. For a portrait of the typical teenage cracker, see warez d00dz.

And of course, the cannonical, official, definition of WINBLOWS is

Microsloth Windows: /mi:�kroh�sloth` win�dohz/, n.

(Variants combine {Microshift, Macroshaft, Microsuck} with {Windoze, WinDOS}. Hackerism(s) for ‘Microsoft Windows’. A thirty-two bit extension and graphical shell to a sixteen-bit patch to an eight-bit operating system originally coded for a four-bit microprocessor which was written by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition. Also just called Windoze, with the implication that you can fall asleep waiting for it to do anything; the latter term is extremely common on Usenet. See Black Screen of Death and Blue Screen of Death; compare X, sun-stools.

This needs to be updated now, to include the latest 64-bit badly bolted on kludge.

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and here, all this time, i thought "Cracker" was just a term because I was a white honky:laugh:

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Diamond 383 wrote: Crikey :computer2:

Has Daequan got something to do with it?!

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Doctor? wrote: While I should be glad that The Beast has finally decided to agree with me that IE is the biggest pile of crapware ever rammed down the necks of innocent windows victims.....two more urgent things are battling for my attention......

  1. I didn't see this on El-Reg today, so it's either from weeks ago, or total nonsense.

  2. It uses the word "hacker" in the Macroshaft "scare people away from free software" way.........

Correct definition

hacker: n.

[originally, someone who makes furniture with an axe]

  1. A person who enjoys exploring the details of programmable systems and how to stretch their capabilities, as opposed to most users, who prefer to learn only the minimum necessary. RFC1392, the Internet Users' Glossary, usefully amplifies this as: A person who delights in having an intimate understanding of the internal workings of a system, computers and computer networks in particular.

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do not forget that language is a dynamic thing & the definition of words changes. maybe in geek school hacker meant that but now it means someone who hacks into things. in a bad way. hence hacker.

(see also chronic, as in long lasting, now meaning bad)

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