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Public sector pay freeze.

A sure-fire vote winner there

Am I the only one worried that the apocalypse (slight return) is actually imminent?

Am I the only one that knew people could even claim tax credits if they were earning that kind of money in the first place? I thought it only applied to families with a household income of 30k or less.

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote: Am I the only one worried that the apocalypse (slight return) is actually imminent?

No

i'm scared silly. i wish people would stop talking about cameron being the next prime minister in that flippant, fatalistic way. it's not helpful OR funny.

Not a fan of Dave. But someone has to sort out the complete fooking mess / lies the useless Blair & Brown has created in this country.

So far their ELECTION PROMISES (which they will surely break) are to cut spending on the NHS and schools and a pay freeze for nurses and teachers.

All this based on Labour's supposed dropping of us all in the shit by keeping the financial system afloat, which saved a lot of us from real misery and only dropped us in paper shit, rather than the actual shit of losing our jobs and all of our money.

So what if the country is in debt? They'll pay it back when the banks pay the loads back. We're in great shape really.

Look at what happened when that Swiss bank collapsed - everyone lost their OWN money. That's not happened here, entirely because of the intervention of the government.

Our only hope is that the debt that the country incurred by lending money to the banks is paid back by election time.

So that's the bankers have to work harder or the Conservatives lose.

Oh dear.

And the left wing option would be?

This is like America, you can vote right or very right.....and soon we'll have the BNP taken seriously, so we can vote nazi too.

Still, tis all your problem, as you know paddies are prohibited from voting.

That's bollocks.

Doctor? wrote: and soon we'll have the BNP taken seriously, so we can vote nazi too.

No we wont.

Biginoil wrote: That's bollocks.

Oh so Labour didn't continue thatch's policies of privatisation and destruction of unions and workers' rights?

Must have missed them setting BR up again, etc etc.

Glad we're kept out of it to be honest, yous can simmer in your own sewage.

Liam, just because you and I have opposable thumbs doesn't mean everyone does, the Mail has a vast readership you know.

Biginoil wrote:

Public sector pay freeze.

A sure-fire vote winner there

Didnt the Labour Party say they would do the same thing last week?

Chris Nash wrote:

Burt Reynolds wrote:

Biginoil wrote:

Public sector pay freeze.

A sure-fire vote winner there

Didnt the Labour Party say they would do the same thing last week?

Surely you're not suggesting that the Tories are trying to copy Labour (again) in order to gain votes as they have no viable policies of their own?

No I think that both realise that you either cut public jobs or freeze pay in order to reduce the debt. It's hardly rocket science.

I doubt Id vote next electon. Labour have been in far too long and have just run the country into the ground. They havent taken a hard enough stance on crime, removed too much power from the police, teachers, etc and bowed down to human rights. And ive not even mentioned economics or immigration fiasco.

Tories dont have a strong enough leader in Cameron. He seems decent enough (like Boris) but I dont think theyre really heavy weights in the political arena.

BNP is a worry. The amount of seats they won on local councils will no doubt carry on to general election. And with so few people showing up at poll stations and showing the same apathy for main parties as I have could mean BNP reaping the rewards. I cant stand the BNP but Blues and Reds need to raise their game to counter them.

Libs and Green wont do much. Theyre kinda like Fulham or Villa. Always there but never win anything.

So far they've alienated anyone on benefits, all civil servants and anyone that can't stand arrogant wankers, so I think the more often they open their mouth, the less chance they stand of getting elected.

OK the economy is a mess, but it's global, and also cyclic, no matter who is in, this shit happens every 10-15 years, you just carry on through it and have forgotten by the time it comes round again.

Jed's right.

It's not enough to just read the newspapers. You have to think as well.

This country might not be in as bad a state as they tell you it is you know.

How is it for you?

Chris Nash wrote: . I hate to think what our society will be like in five years time.

It will still be shite. We will still be sorting out Labours mess. Labour did well early on because the Conservatives did the groundwork for many years before. It was only when they planted their own ideas they got shown to be complete fook wits.

Vote Tory

I'd rather Piss in my own eye

Chris Nash wrote: the Conservatives will drag Britain down to the lowest depths

We're already there.

Burt Reynolds wrote:

Chris Nash wrote: the Conservatives will drag Britain down to the lowest depths

We're already there.

oh what an idiotic thing to say. it's up there with:

"they're all as bad as each other." "we're about ready for a change now." "they can't make things any worse." "you can't tell them apart these days." "this lot have fucked things right up, let the other lot have a go."

the public will get what the public wants. stupid fuckers.

i can't bear to think about it. don't have nightmares, do sleep well.

Ally wrote: One person won't give a toss either way:

my contingency plans are already underway

Chris Nash wrote:

Ger Boy wrote:

Chris Nash wrote: . I hate to think what our society will be like in five years time.

It will still be shite. We will still be sorting out Labours mess. Labour did well early on because the Conservatives did the groundwork for many years before. It was only when they planted their own ideas they got shown to be complete fook wits.

Vote Tory

Did the groundwork for:

Strikes (throughout), Destruction of the coal and steel industries, war and mass murder (1982), selling weapons to Iraq and Afghanistan (1980 - 1997) that are still being used to kill allied troops today, the destruction of the railway infrastructure (throughout), slow deterioration of the NHS (I was working for them at the time), the privatisation and resulting disolvement of many public bodies - PSA, half of the DOE, an eigth of the Treasury Services, foundation for the privatisation of the postal service (heard any complaints about that?) I could go on and on, but seriously, no one in their right blue-rinsed mind could ever vote Conservative.

remarkably blinkered stuff. Think I could put up a list covering all of those points and more but set it in the last twenty years. But I can't be arsed with politics.

Do you not remember 1979 and the strikes? and don't even start on war lol

Coal had been losing massive amounts of cash since 1965 when it last scraped a profit.. ( I know this is a long argument, but lets not start it)

And Royal Mail was running alright until 1997.. Then email came along..

I'm not defending any party here.. But lets face it, changes happen, and its a shame you can be so holier than thou about it, Chris.

Bringin up the Falklands is rich, at least there was some possibly explicable reason for that one....not just piling the corpses of our young men to make the yanks pipeline go easier.

They're all bastards. Tories sent SAS death squads after terrorists, Labour put them in charge of policing and schools then went chasing make believe terrorists for the yanks. All cunts.

Oh, and for the twat who said Labour were all about human rights and shit....it works like this....set up a load of retarded legislation designed to protect criminals and annoy victims, thereby creating the perfect conditions in the small minds of most people to begin routine phone tapping, forcing citizens to carry and produce papers on demand, keeping a database of DNA from innocent persons, making possession of a camera an offense, and so on ad infinitum....and have the proles sing your fucking praises for it.

Douglas Adams had it perfectly right when he said that the desire to become a politician should instantly and perpetually preclude one from becoming such. People should be FORCED into government at gunpoint.

bloodynora wrote:

Burt Reynolds wrote:

Chris Nash wrote: the Conservatives will drag Britain down to the lowest depths

We're already there.

oh what an idiotic thing to say. it's up there with:

"they're all as bad as each other." "we're about ready for a change now." "they can't make things any worse." "you can't tell them apart these days." "this lot have fucked things right up, let the other lot have a go."

the public will get what the public wants. stupid fuckers.

i can't bear to think about it. don't have nightmares, do sleep well.

I can just remember my shed being burned down one October in 1979, and a Green Goddess turn up four hours after calling them. Then a power cut the same night.

bliss...

I'm not bothered who runs it all, but a change is needed. Both parties appear to be aligned, or at least Labour has shifted so dramatically away from Socialism, I'm surprised you old staunch lefties even recognise the party you supported as rebel kids. A change brings in new ideas though, which are often good til they run out of them. In 1997, there was a rush of good new policies for a while.

Actually.. let the Lib Dems have a go.. they must have been sitting on new policy for 50 years.