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Biginoil wrote: A few Parliamentary candidates were interviewed on Radio 4 this morning.

When asked who was the greatest Prime Minister of the 20th Century, almost all of them said Margaret Thatcher. One of them said 'apart from her last few years' and someone else, predictably, said dear old Winston.

In 1988 Margaret Thatcher tried to outlaw "the teaching in any maintained school of the acceptability of homosexuality as a pretended family relationship". That's 1988. Not 1888 (sorry Shug): 1988.

They are, genetically, horrible horrible people.

How dare they!! I'm going on Strrke in protest.

Surely it's James Callaghan or Tony Blair.

:lol:

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Viking Numéro 7 wrote: The tories are cunts.

Anyone that supports them are cunts.

That is all.

I'm a handsome cunt then :wink:

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Ger Boy wrote:

:lol:

21st Century Political Debate in action right there.

We are fucked :shrug:

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It could be red It could be blue Theres nothing much to choose between the two

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Biginoil wrote:

Ger Boy wrote:

:lol:

21st Century Political Debate in action right there.

We are fucked :shrug:

Wow ,is it still 1983? I just heard a new song called Blue Monday , it's ace! :thumb:

Thatcher won , get over it and dry your eyes. I know your style icon Michael Foot lost , but hey, Thats Life!

It's 2009 ,and Labour have completely fooking ruined this country for the last 12 years. :nod:

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Yes Foot would have been a terrible leader, him being all scruffy and that.

Could you outline how the country is fucked, and how Labour is to blame?

No looking at your Sun, now. This must be all your own work.

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I can. Under the last Tories regime, how many ASBO's served? How many mobile phones stolen? How many cybercriminals were there?

NONE on each count.

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Ger Boy wrote: It's 2009 ,and Labour have completely fooking ruined this country for the last 12 years. :nod:

Hats off to Labour for ruining Scotchland!

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NO Regret wrote: I can. Under the last Tories regime, how many ASBO's served? How many mobile phones stolen? How many cybercriminals were there?

NONE on each count.

I liked your poem :)

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Howay Ger,you've had ya fun.The only good Tory is a Frankie Defuckintorri..You know it,I know it,gadge.

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Biginoil wrote: Could you outline how the country is fucked, and how Labour is to blame?

Yeah your right , my mistake. I wonder why The Labour Party has the worst support now than it ever has?

Debt, Europe , Health Service , Education , War , Crime , Policy , Economy , Employment, Expenses , Pensions

A fine job done on all of them.

:scratch:

Thatcher Out :thumb:

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Ger Boy wrote:

Biginoil wrote: Could you outline how the country is fucked, and how Labour is to blame?

Yeah your right , my mistake. I wonder why The Labour Party has the worst support now than it ever has?

Debt, Europe , Health Service , Education , War , Crime , Policy , Economy , Employment, Expenses , Pensions

A fine job done on all of them.

:scratch:

Thatcher Out :thumb:

A proper Tory can't really whinge about Health and Educashun, now can they?

You'd have private health care and send your kids to private schools, surely?

Free healthcare and educashun to all is surely a cornerstone of a socialist society? And should be shunned. It's akin to a state handout, innit?

See how the ultra-right in the US kicked off just recently when National Health care was suggested over there. They don't want to be taxed an extra cent in the dollar, just so someone else can benefit, no siree.

And I'm guessing you do know the Expenses row was cross-party? You can chuck that one at Labour, but then you can also chuck that one at the Tories too. I don't know who fiddled the most though, if that was your issue.

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Biginoil wrote: Yes Foot would have been a terrible leader, him being all scruffy and that.

Could you outline how the country is fucked, and how Labour is to blame?

No looking at your Sun, now. This must be all your own work.

Enforced ID cards just round the corner, innocent people's DNA being kept on police file, the outlawing of cameras in public places etc etc etc etc. Trouble is, those are all Tory policies as far as I can see, so they will not do away with them.

Oh, and giving 5 billion to the world's richest man for him to deliver a computer system for the NHS, and letting him walk away without delivering anything. Police watchin a child drown because to intervene would breach H+S

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Ger Boy wrote:

Biginoil wrote:

Ger Boy wrote:

:lol:

21st Century Political Debate in action right there.

We are fucked :shrug:

Wow ,is it still 1983? I just heard a new song called Blue Monday , it's ace! :thumb:

Thatcher won , get over it and dry your eyes. I know your style icon Michael Foot lost , but hey, Thats Life!

It's 2009 ,and Labour have completely fooking ruined this country for the last 12 years. :nod:

The point, my right-wing friend, is that we are all still living with the fall-out from the 1980s. The 80s might have ended nearly two decades ago but so much of the core ideological ground which governs the UK today is grounded in the shift towards neoliberal consensus in the Thatcher years.

As it stands, the political and economic shifts of the eighties are Ground Zero for 21st Century Britain. If you don't understand this then you're probably as braindead as your online persona.

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Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

The point, my right-wing friend, is that we are all still living with the fall-out from the 1980s. The 80s might have ended nearly two decades ago but so much of the core ideological ground which governs the UK today is grounded in the shift towards neoliberal consensus in the Thatcher years.

As it stands, the political and economic shifts of the eighties are Ground Zero for 21st Century Britain. If you don't understand this then you're probably as braindead as your online persona.

So...

I wanted Blair out for starting an illegal war in Iraq ,and it was Thatchers fault all along.

I knew it , thank you for putting me right my Socialist Buddy :thumb:

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Ah yes, I remember the extraordinary outcry against joining the US-led coalition from the Tories. It was deafening.

Oh, hang on - it was actually high-profile Labour MPs who openly voiced their discontent, some even resigning over the matter.

Blair is as irrelevant now as Thatch - get over it, buddy.

:nod:

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Ger Boy wrote:

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

The point, my right-wing friend, is that we are all still living with the fall-out from the 1980s. The 80s might have ended nearly two decades ago but so much of the core ideological ground which governs the UK today is grounded in the shift towards neoliberal consensus in the Thatcher years.

As it stands, the political and economic shifts of the eighties are Ground Zero for 21st Century Britain. If you don't understand this then you're probably as braindead as your online persona.

So...

I wanted Blair out for starting an illegal war in Iraq ,and it was Thatchers fault all along.

I knew it , thank you for putting me right my Socialist Buddy :thumb:

Well if we're playing warcrimes.....Belgrano.

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Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote: Ah yes, I remember the extraordinary outcry against joining the US-led coalition from the Tories. It was deafening.

Thats because Blair had seen evidence of WMD.

But it was just good old Labour lies :nod:

Or was it Thatcher :skeptic:

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Doctor? wrote:

Well if we're playing warcrimes.....Belgrano.

You, my sitting on the fence friend , are a troublemaker :nono:

:lol:

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:nuts: wrote: Hmmmm been watching this thread and was really ready to write a collosal post but cant be arsed.

1,They all piss in the same pot 2,The BNP are as daft as Boris 3,CamerOON is a slimy bastard 4,The one eyed scottish idiot is a still a one eyed scottish idiot...... and finally number 5 I would NEVER vote Tory.

None of them do anything decent for the average working man.

Coming from an area that has seen its two main industries decimated by the Tories they are straight off my list,i would NEVER vote for them.

My town WAS always a labour heartland and the local council was always Labour.

The last few council elections have seen massive gains for independents and rather sadly the BNP.

Why do people vote BNP?

Admittedly in some of my previous posts i have harped on about immigration,as many of us have,and quite rightly so,the main BNP policy is immigration and this particular issue wins votes,again unfortunately.

In my town i see the BNP as a vote of protest,they are in town everyday of the week spouting their rubbish.

I was in on Monday and actually stopped to listen what the Gadji was saying.

My opinion of them still hasn't changed,they talk shite are shite,and will never win shite,Or WILL they?

They will continue to win seats in Northern towns like ours,perhaps because of the protest vote,or because at present there are no particular parties that are a real viable alternative.

This country needs a revolution to sort it out,not one eyed scotch idiots nor slimy tory publicity seeking fuckwits....

I therefore propose to start my own particular political party,the :nuts: party....

Policies to follow soon :lol:

:nuts:

http://neworderinfoweb.piczo.com

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Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

Ger Boy wrote:

Biginoil wrote:

Ger Boy wrote:

:lol:

21st Century Political Debate in action right there.

We are fucked :shrug:

Wow ,is it still 1983? I just heard a new song called Blue Monday , it's ace! :thumb:

Thatcher won , get over it and dry your eyes. I know your style icon Michael Foot lost , but hey, Thats Life!

It's 2009 ,and Labour have completely fooking ruined this country for the last 12 years. :nod:

The point, my right-wing friend, is that we are all still living with the fall-out from the 1980s. The 80s might have ended nearly two decades ago but so much of the core ideological ground which governs the UK today is grounded in the shift towards neoliberal consensus in the Thatcher years.

As it stands, the political and economic shifts of the eighties are Ground Zero for 21st Century Britain. If you don't understand this then you're probably as braindead as your online persona.

You should consider politics as a future Martin. Really should. You can quote your shit in the Houses of Parly as well as on here then :thumb:

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Ger Boy wrote:

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote: Ah yes, I remember the extraordinary outcry against joining the US-led coalition from the Tories. It was deafening.

Thats because Blair had seen evidence of WMD.

But it was just good old Labour lies :nod:

Or was it Thatcher :skeptic:

Or was it more that the Tories are never going to (a) pass up a chance to gear up for war, (b) challenge our "special relationship" with the U.S. (particularly when there's a Republican in the White House), (c) reject quasi-Imperialist foreign policy which allows Britannia to pretend to be Great once more, and (d) avoid the bashing of Johnny Foreigner (especially them darkie types).

What the fuck were the Conservatives doing believing anything Blair said anyway? Their job is to be the fucking opposition, after all. But, of course, now they can bleat about how they were "lied to", just like the rest of us ordinary folk.

You're talking bollocks. The situation regarding British troops in the Middle East would be exactly the same even if the Tories had been in power for the last decade. Still, I'm looking forward to an immediate withdrawal of the British presence in Iraq and Afghanistan within months of Cameron entering Number 10.

Oh, hang on.......he's just going to give the soldiers better helmets and extra copies of "Razzle", isn't he?

:nonono:

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Ger Boy wrote:

Doctor? wrote:

Well if we're playing warcrimes.....Belgrano.

You, my sitting on the fence friend , are a troublemaker :nono:

:lol:

No, I, just says it like I sees it, they're all cunts, and picking over the details of their cuntishness is just tiring to my soul.

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Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote:

Ger Boy wrote:

Clayhead Liberation Faction wrote: Ah yes, I remember the extraordinary outcry against joining the US-led coalition from the Tories. It was deafening.

Thats because Blair had seen evidence of WMD.

But it was just good old Labour lies :nod:

Or was it Thatcher :skeptic:

Or was it more that the Tories are never going to (a) pass up a chance to gear up for war, (b) challenge our "special relationship" with the U.S. (particularly when there's a Republican in the White House), (c) reject quasi-Imperialist foreign policy which allows Britannia to pretend to be Great once more, and (d) avoid the bashing of Johnny Foreigner (especially them darkie types).

What the fuck were the Conservatives doing believing anything Blair said anyway? Their job is to be the fucking opposition, after all. But, of course, now they can bleat about how they were "lied to", just like the rest of us ordinary folk.

You're talking bollocks. The situation regarding British troops in the Middle East would be exactly the same even if the Tories had been in power for the last decade. Still, I'm looking forward to an immediate withdrawal of the British presence in Iraq and Afghanistan within months of Cameron entering Number 10.

Oh, hang on.......he's just going to give the soldiers better helmets and extra copies of "Razzle", isn't he?

:nonono:

Latest Election 2010 Betting Odds

Conservatives 1/16 Labour 8/1 Libs 100/1

Sorry mate , looks like me and the majority of the UK voters think Labour are shite.

Bye Bye Labour :nod:

Oh , by the way Dave said this today -

Frankly, time is short," Mr Cameron said in his keynote speech on the final day of the Manchester conference.

"We cannot spend another eight years taking ground only to give it back again.

"So our method should be clear - send more soldiers to train more Afghans to deliver the security we need. Then we can bring our troops home."

Amid widespread alarm in the country at the rapid rise in British losses this summer, Mr Cameron pledged a "ruthless, relentless focus on fighting, winning and coming home".

And he promised to ensure that UK service personnel were provided with "every piece of equipment they need" to accomplish the task at hand.

Vote Tory :thumb:

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Chris Nash wrote: I think that not voting is an awful waste. If one doesn't vote, there's no right to complain about whichever party is in power.

Rubbish.

If you pay taxes you've got as much right as anyone else.

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Tories to increase dead darkies by 300 tons p/a.

WONDERFUL NEWS.

"a vote for me is a vote for increased mass murder of innocents".

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i'll be voting labour by the way, as i'm from Sheffield and what the tories did to the industry in my home city will never be forgotten

I also don't earn more than 50k a year and i like interest rates where they are, so i really hope the tories don't get in

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Major Tarantino wrote: i'll be voting labour by the way, as i'm from Sheffield and what the tories did to the industry in my home city will never be forgotten

I also don't earn more than 50k a year and i like interest rates where they are, so i really hope the tories don't get in

May be I am being a little over dramatic here........but

the last thing I remember about the 80's and the tories was my first mortgage in 1987 - 21 years old. Flat in converted house in Brighton, moved to London, the flat lost 10K in 4 months; (My mum sent me postal orders to live) lived in staff accom in London couldnt afford to rent never mind buy; came back 'home' got a decent place - honestly cannot remember the price, but the mortgage payments at one point got to £600 (THEN!) a month...........( IT was only half ok maybe 3/4 of that when I moved in) .I only earned the equiv of £550 a month net then. Lots and lots of pepes were in negative equity, lots of homes were repossessed. My best friend now - in 2009 was repo'd. Shit shit shit government.

My Grandad instilled the work ethos into his children, my parents etc and in turn, me to my children but sometimes its a joke. Vicious circle, catch 22 etc etc.

Best not continue along these lines, cos yet again, I will be seen as a racist.

I for one, will NOT vote Tory.

I also will NOT vote Labour.

So Sheffield is just one city of many that feels hard done by. The Midlands and North by far seem to be hard done by. Fact.

The Party I would vote for, doesn't exist yet. I personally am awaiting :nuts: policies!

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y'all need this guy:

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I dunno, Jeff. Tough times call for tough measures. Obama's too nice.

This chap would get my vote, though:

Stay out of trouble, Tory motherfuckers. :nod:

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