Personnal heroes (other than the Order)

A simple query, really, which has been done before, but it feels right in observing 9/11: Who are the top ten people you admire, and why?

1. Robert F. Kennedy: He was shaken by his brother's death to strive for more than mere lip service to social reform, and he realized the war in Vietnam (which he had a hand in starting with Pres. Kennedy) wasn't worth continuing. If he hadn't been shot, we all might be living in a better world.

2. John Lennon: He had the guts to leave the most popular band ever for an obscure Japanese artist whom no one liked. not everything he ever did turned out to be successful, but at least he tried. Like RFK, he died much too young.

3. J.D. Salinger: He wrote the best novel about coming of age, then retired to obscurity after putting out some excellant shorter works. Wes Anderson owes him a royalty check for the transformation of Salinger's fictional Glasses into the 'Royal Tennenbaums'. A mystery man of few words, but he makes them count.

4. Bob Dylan: a master of the American song, the most important cultural icon still standing. Inspired practically everyone.

5. Phil Hartman: The guy was simply the funniest man ever.

6. Stanley Kubrick: The most interesting, dynamic, enigmatic film maker of all time. Nuff said.

7. Andy Kaufman: You can't classify him. You can only watch and learn.

8. F. Scott Fitzgerald: Another literary maverick. When the money flowed in, he produced some of the definitive classics of American lit.

9. Conan O'Brien: The funniest man on tv, even without the best sidekick in lat-night history (Andy Richter)

10. Henry David Thoreau: Taking Emerson's teachings one step further. Had the courage to stand up and say what was wrong with slavery, American expansionism, etc.

high, tabsy....i just thought i'd chime in on Woody Allen and Conan O'brien...

Woody allen is a sick FUC who should have been forever blacklisted after marrying his adopted daughter who was almost 80 years younger than him.

Conan is not half as funny as Craig Kilborn. Sure he's a talented writer (simpsons, SNL) but his show is too painful to watch. turn it to CBS one night and catch a real Late Night host. I did buy a Conan shirt when I was in NYC a few years ago but he can't hold a candle to Kilborn.

Tabsy, gonna give this a little bit of thought tonight; just got home after a long day, but I thought you might like to know that Comedy Central has started showing Conan repeats from last nights episode at 7 pm the next day. Great for people like me who can't always stay up that late, especially when there's a good musical guest on.

heroes? hmmm, i don't have too many cuz í'm not into blowing famous people's lives and influences out of porportion.

right now, the only person i can think of who comes close to being a hero to me is kathleen hanna. i don't have any bikini kill or le tigre cds, but she's just an empowering person with a lot of guts.

Originally posted by Green Tabsy, gonna give this a little bit of thought tonight; just got home after a long day, but I thought you might like to know that Comedy Central has started showing Conan repeats from last nights episode at 7 pm the next day. Great for people like me who can't always stay up that late, especially when there's a good musical guest on.

Unfortunately, I don't have Comedy Central, so I gotta stay up late....I usually catch the Monday/Weds shows (seeing as I have an 11:00 class Tues/Thurs, I can afford to stay up that late) and the Friday show, so unless New Order pops up as musical guests on a Tuesday or Thursday, I should be fine.

Top 6 people I admire :

1. Bob Mould - the way he dealt with his vicious outing was completely the correct way to handle it. Aside from being a simply brilliant guitarist and innovative songwriter, he's also a man of great integrity, a rarity in the music business.

2. Ian Botham - may well be a bit of a cad, but as a cricketer and entertainer, he was peerless.

3. Sir Vivian Richards - simply the finest batsman I have ever had the pleasure of watching play.

4. Tracy Shaw - great tits ;)

5. Mark E.Smith - vastly under-rated wit and raconteur.

6. James Dean Bradfield - an honest man.

Others could be mentioned here.

Berti Vogts for his tactical savvy.

This should whet your appetite.....

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And for those who can't be arsed to open the link....

Cum'on lads, what's wrong with you! Tabbsy trying to put some high spirited, worthy role models in front of us and you go and hijack his thread to show us the, I must admit rather interesting, tits of a gal from Salford. Tsk, tsk...I am not impressed....

Originally posted by Biznotic Love Trapazoid high, tabsy....i just thought i'd chime in on Woody Allen and Conan O'brien...Woody allen is a sick FUC who should have been forever blacklisted after marrying his adopted daughter who was almost 80 years younger than him.Conan is not half as funny as Craig Kilborn. Sure he's a talented writer (simpsons, SNL) but his show is too painful to watch. turn it to CBS one night and catch a real Late Night host. I did buy a Conan shirt when I was in NYC a few years ago but he can't hold a candle to Kilborn.

In response to your post, I decided to take Woody off the list. I admire the work much more than I do the man, so Phil Hartman takes his place. Lou Reed, Pete Townshend, and of course Barney are other heroes of mine, but I wanted a Top 10, not a top 100 (that would be ponderous...)

As for Kilborn, I honestly think he was better on Daily Show (though Stewart's much better as a host), but like someone mentioned in an earlier thread, when he went to CBS he effectively became what he parodied, the mindless talk show host. He's great some nights, terrible on others. They might as well call it "Maxim Magazine Presents: The Craig Kilborn Show" as all he seems to have on lately are light-headed models. 5 Questions is a classic bit, though. Overall, I like Conan better....

The following are in no particular order:

1. Ann Coulter - fire breathing conservative she-dragon. Defender of the American Right. Absolute rapier intellect. Leftist guerrillas slither back under the rocks they came from and refuse to debate her.

2. Men of 8th Air Force and Bomber Command. Flew through Hell and back to destroy Hitler's war machine. TENS OF THOUSANDS of airmen didn't come home in their B-17's or Lancs.

3. Carroll Shelby - Failed chicken farmer from Dallas who went on to build his own car, the Cobra: Anglo-American marriage of AC body/chassis and Ford V8. Destroyed Corvette. Officially joined forces with Ford to crush Enzo Ferrari from 1966-69 with the all-conquering GT 40. Shelby American the only American manufacturer to win FIA sportscar championship.

4. My old man - came from broken home to provide stable, loving atmosphere for me and my brother.

5. Rush Limbaugh - led the conservative movement out of the Wilderness of Big Media. Shed the harsh light of Truth on Leftist Guerrillas.

6. Kelly Johnson - mastermind behind the Lockheed "Skunk Works". Responsible for U-2, A-12, SR-71, etc.

7. James A. Baker III - dude was and still is a TOTAL badass. Former U.S. SecState. Held coalition together during the Gulf War. Foiled Leftist Guerrillas in Florida in '00. Maddy Albright and Little Warren Christopher are not fit to carry his sweaty jock. Currently cold chillin' in H-town and helping run Rice University.

Originally posted by Budvar Huber Cum'on lads, what's wrong with you! Tabbsy trying to put some high spirited, worthy role models in front of us and you go and hijack his thread to show us the, I must admit rather interesting, tits of a gal from Salford. Tsk, tsk...I am not impressed....

Don't worry, I think I'll start up a "Top Ten Great Tits (and the Women Attached to Them)" thread tomorrow when I've got more time....

Furthering the cause of women's rights.........

Okay, dear ol' Marty did have a thread once upon a time about heroes and villians; this is a good chance to expand on the former subject.

Can't remember what exactly who I listed, but I'm sure I included most of these:

1. Steve Prefontaine(Olympic runner, the first Oregonian that I was aware of who made an impact beyond my little world).

2. Johnny Cash (not a technically great singer, but damn if he didn't make a big impression on me, much to the chagrin of my grandmother).

3. Martin Luther

4. David McComb (singer of the Triffids; wonderful lyricist, sadly deceased)

5. Bill Waterson (Calvin and Hobbes)

6. Geoff Travis (founder of Rough Trade).

7. John Irving (if only for A Prayer For Owen Meany)

8. Matt Groening (another Oregonian; not just for The Simpsons but Life In Hell as well).

9. Bob Dylan (don't like all of his songs, and sometimes his singing can grate, but his best songs are really something)

10. Willie Mays (American baseball player).

Originally posted by Michael McDermott The following are in no particular order:1. Ann Coulter - fire breathing conservative she-dragon. Defender of the American Right. Absolute rapier intellect. Leftist guerrillas slither back under the rocks they came from and refuse to debate her.2. Men of 8th Air Force and Bomber Command. Flew through Hell and back to destroy Hitler's war machine. TENS OF THOUSANDS of airmen didn't come home in their B-17's or Lancs.3. Carroll Shelby - Failed chicken farmer from Dallas who went on to build his own car, the Cobra: Anglo-American marriage of AC body/chassis and Ford V8. Destroyed Corvette. Officially joined forces with Ford to crush Enzo Ferrari from 1966-69 with the all-conquering GT 40. Shelby American the only American manufacturer to win FIA sportscar championship.4. My old man - came from broken home to provide stable, loving atmosphere for me and my brother.5. Rush Limbaugh - led the conservative movement out of the Wilderness of Big Media. Shed the harsh light of Truth on Leftist Guerrillas.6. Kelly Johnson - mastermind behind the Lockheed "Skunk Works". Responsible for U-2, A-12, SR-71, etc.7. James A. Baker III - dude was and still is a TOTAL badass. Former U.S. SecState. Held coalition together during the Gulf War. Foiled Leftist Guerrillas in Florida in '00. Maddy Albright and Little Warren Christopher are not fit to carry his sweaty jock. Currently cold chillin' in H-town and helping run Rice University.

You are right in your appretiation of James Baker as a great politician and Secretary of State but the man is well past his best and his handling of the West Sahara referendum, caving in to all of Morocco's wishes (Morocco being a ruthless, imperialist, hugely corrupt, hereditary dictatorship) will forever be a nasty smudge in his scutcheon.

Originally posted by Easy E And for those who can't be arsed to open the link....

You've got to be having a giraffe mate, the woman is a horror story! And there's loads of ladies on TV with better shirt potatoes than that!

Originally posted by Kez-bah > Originally posted by Easy E> And for those who can't be arsed to open the link....> >

You've got to be having a giraffe mate, the woman is a horror story! And there's loads of ladies on TV with better shirt potatoes than that!

Carrier bags have their uses. And anyway, hers are fairly readily available on a visual basis, which is always a headstart. Shirt potatoes. Like it ;)

Is that a little green eyed monster on your shoulder Kezzi ?

No way mate!! Just think Shaw is a rotter...there are a lot nicer looking ladies on the TV for the discerning gentleman to choose from. I mean, look at that for a lollipop head!

Now, is she still with Ashley? That must be ancient history by now!

BTW I seem to remember her getting into the NO party after the Move concert, am I right?

1. Actarus aka Duke Fleet (am I right?), Goldorak aka Grendizer's pilot :)
2. Rocco Siffredi :D

Ummmmm....Heroes was'nt the original thread.... Stan Lee (Marvel Comics) The whole 1966 'England Football Squad' Gianfranco Zola (Chelsea Superstar) Olly Reed (Top all-rounder) David Soul (Cool dude)