what are you watching now?

we seem to do a lot of chatting about whatever we're watching on't telly, so i thought a dedicated thread might be in order...

watched ruby sparks (film) last night. really liked it. reminded me eversoslightly of eternal sunshine (though not a patch), and pisses all over that horrendous 500 days of summer. critiques the 'manic pixie dream girl' myth rather nicely.

edit: it's got a pretty nifty soundtrack too - a bit offbeat without being painful.

Not actually watching this minute but have got into Broadchurch lately.It's 8 bloody episodes though, that's a long slog.

Watched the first episode of In The Flesh on BBC3 last Sunday night and will watch or record episode 2 tonight. Yarn about Zombies being brought back to health and back into society and how society accepts (or doesn't accept) former zombies with 'Partially Deceased Syndrome'

yep, i'm enjoying these two so far too. broadchurch benefits from comparison with the terrible sub-twin peaks 'mayday' thing that started about the same time.

dare i say i think olivia colman is overrated? (i haven't seen tyrannosaur yet, though - maybe that will sway me.)

Yeah i know what you mean about Mayday though it was alright in places.Just thought it was funny that Harry from Spooks was a peeping tom in it lol.And funny when after he killed himself his Mrs fed his ashes to the dog

Monsters

First saw this movie a couple of years ago but watched again today.Low budget sci fi about this guy trying to get his employer's daughter across an infected alien zone in Mexico back to the U.S.

Now, i cannot stress this highly enough - DO NOT BE PUT OFF BY THE DUMB TITLE OF THE FILM.It is not some Independence Day style brainless aliens invading the earth type crap.It is quite slow paced yes, but ultimately rewarding.Watch it.

Right now on BBC4 - Nile Rodgers documentary "The Hitmaker".. To be followed by a Ziggy doc and more Bowie after that.. I love BBC4 on a Friday.

Saw Ben Wheatley's Sightseers last night.

Genius. A Badlands for the 21st Century, with more humour and Brummie accents.

Been catching up with a lot of British horrors of later. All our horrors seem to fall into two categories now - tower blocks infested with feral chavs (Citadel, Community, Tower Block) or rural farmlands populated by inbred yocals (Fallow Field, Inbred)

Cranelane wrote:

To be followed by a Ziggy doc and more Bowie after that..

my kids watched that, and loved it. (in fact, they're either watching it again or they've stuck some of his music on.)

i hope there's something good on this weekend. there usually is on a bank hol, right? PLEASE GOD let there be a star-studded new agatha christie... *crosses fingers tightly*

(OOOOOH THAT'S REMINDED ME! new 'endeavour' (baby morse) coming soon! i cannot WAIT for that.)

El Jarvo wrote: Saw Ben Wheatley's Sightseers last night.

Genius. A Badlands for the 21st Century, with more humour and Brummie accents.

Been catching up with a lot of British horrors of later. All our horrors seem to fall into two categories now - tower blocks infested with feral chavs (Citadel, Community, Tower Block) or rural farmlands populated by inbred yocals (Fallow Field, Inbred)

ha!

i've been meaning to watch sightseers for ages; looks excellent. i'll have to get round to it.

anyone see doctor who last night? i think we must only continue watching it in this household because of the production values and because matt smith is brilliant. (my heart stops slightly at the thought of how smug and self-indulgent the 50th anniversary celebrations could be.)

and now i will i-player depeche mode on jonathan ross (is he still on the bbc? no?), and weep for my lost youth.

El Jarvo wrote: Saw Ben Wheatley's Sightseers last night.

Genius. A Badlands for the 21st Century, with more humour and Brummie accents.

Been catching up with a lot of British horrors of later. All our horrors seem to fall into two categories now - tower blocks infested with feral chavs (Citadel, Community, Tower Block) or rural farmlands populated by inbred yocals (Fallow Field, Inbred)

God i haven't seen any of those.Will maybe look into "acquiring" one or two of em.That Sightseers looks very interesting and Inbred too

Cranelane wrote: Right now on BBC4 - Nile Rodgers documentary "The Hitmaker".. .

This was more entertaining than I imagined. Once it got going it just flew by. On again tonight at 11.45. Johnny Marr's in it too.

jonathan creek? shit creek, more like.

and i say that with sorrow, as a huge fan of duffle coats, curly hair, and tv detectives. i have never ever seen or read such a ridiculous plot in all my life. then, just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, they chuck in a farcical sub-plot or two which are EVEN MORE ludicrous!

absolute fucking rubbish. bring back the windmill.

we're watching sightseers tonight.

but we have to watch it in SHIFTS because my teenage sons have seen the trailer, spotted there's some sex in it, and refuse view it with their mother.

bloodynora wrote: we're watching sightseers tonight.

Any good Becky?

Tried to get it the other night but the local Bob Holness didnt have it

it's appeared on our tv film package, which is handy. (along with the master, which will also get an airing shortly.)

love interest unexpectedly popped in* last night, so viewing postponed. will report back.

(*not a euphemism.)

did you see jarvo's glowing review, though?

El Jarvo wrote: Saw Ben Wheatley's Sightseers last night.

Genius. A Badlands for the 21st Century, with more humour and Brummie accents.

Thanks for the tips, Jarvo!

Sightseers was brilliant.Some great lines in that one- "That wasn't a person,Tina, it was a Daily Mail reader" LOL

Inbred was, erm, interesting! Dreadful acting at times though.

TV wise i had a look at the first episode of The Village on bbc1.Usually struggle with John Simm but i thought he was good in this, the child actor playing his youngest son was better though - brilliant acting for a kid.

Doctor Who was alright but then most first episodes of that usually are then the rest of the series goes downhill. Do like his new assistant though

Thanks again wrote: Do like his new assistant though

you're probably in the target demographic for that, johnny. everyone i've spoken to finds her wildly annoying. i think it's compulsory for the role.

bloodynora wrote:

Thanks again wrote: Do like his new assistant though

you're probably in the target demographic for that, johnny.

That's as maybe but it doesn't necessarily mean i'll watch a single more episode of the series.And anyway, that term "target demographic" can go fuck itself

Django Unchained. Good film but I wish Tarantino didn't make a cameo appearance in all his films. He needs to quit doing that .

Thanks again wrote: Django Unchained. Good film but I wish Tarantino didn't make a cameo appearance in all his films. He needs to quit doing that .

I had to get my phone out and google him in the middle of the film cos I couldn't understand what or who he was supposed to be.

He was supposed to be Australian. WTF.

Inbred is dreadful, isn't it? We haven't produced a decent horror on these shores since Eden Lake.

I saw 'Welcome to the Punch' last night. Was a bit disappointed. Lot of style over substance really. Truly brilliant British cast but not sure James McAvoy is the right person to carry off the role of tightly-wound copper on a revenge trip.

just adding my voice to the chorus of approval for 'sightseers'. very good.

now watching 'the holiday', of which i shall never ever tire, despite its vast shitness.

Never Let Me Go, which Nora recommended some months back.Yes, an interesting film,i liked it.Actually maybe liked isn't the right word.It left a slightly depressing, haunted feeling.But that's not a bad thing.Rather a film leave any kind of lasting impression than being immediately forgettable once the credits roll.

I guess the obvious question is why didn't they do a runner and escape their fate which was to "complete"? Maybe it's because they weren't equipped for the world as evidenced when in the cafe they didn't even know how to order food? Or it's because the message maybe with the film is that we could all do a runner from the paths set out for us but few rarely do? Which is alarming.

So yeah - depressing, haunting and alarming.

El Jarvo wrote:

Thanks again wrote: Django Unchained. Good film but I wish Tarantino didn't make a cameo appearance in all his films. He needs to quit doing that .

I had to get my phone out and google him in the middle of the film cos I couldn't understand what or who he was supposed to be.

He was supposed to be Australian. WTF.

.

Yeah Australian,WTF indeed. I don't know, i just think his cameo was an unwanted distraction.You could almost see in the eyes of the actor playing Django in that scene where he's on his knees talking to Tarantino's character a look of less conviction than he has in the rest of the film.Like he's thinking "this is fucking stupid having Tarantino in this part"

Thanks again wrote:

So yeah - depressing, haunting and alarming.

glad you liked. i particularly loved the evocative cinematography, which i felt illustrated the themes perfectly, and really just made the film for me. bleak and beautiful.

i'm excited by the return of 'game of thrones' at the moment. watched the second ep of the new series the other day, and was trying to sing "game of thrones, game of thrones, game of thrones" etc along with the theme tune, but it just wouldn't work. now i know why - it should go like this:

bloodynora wrote:

Thanks again wrote:

So yeah - depressing, haunting and alarming.

glad you liked. i particularly loved the evocative cinematography, which i felt illustrated the themes perfectly, and really just made the film for me. bleak and beautiful.

Ah , just read up a bit more on it.They're all tagged anyway so that's one reason they can't escape? I know they had to swipe in and out of Hailsham and The Cottages but somehow missed that they are still wearing the bracelets later on. That and the fact they're raised at Hailsham to be docile. But there's more to it than those two straightforward reasons for them not escaping.

Reminded me a bit of Atonement the way two people (Kathy H and Tommy) are heartbreakingly kept apart from each other for most of their lifetimes by another's (Ruth) actions until it's too late.

What have i seen Carey Mulligan in before? I know her from something.She's good.

Thanks again wrote:

What have i seen Carey Mulligan in before? I know her from something.She's good.

most notably 'an education', and the (best ever) dr who episode 'blink'.

bloodynora wrote:

Thanks again wrote:

What have i seen Carey Mulligan in before? I know her from something.She's good.

most notably 'an education', and the (best ever) dr who episode 'blink'.

Thanks. Not seen An Education so it must be that Dr Who Blink episode i recognise her from then

Thanks again wrote:

What have i seen Carey Mulligan in before? I know her from something.She's good.

Well I've seen her in the Wall Street sequel that came out a couple of years ago, and of course she was in the Ryan Gosling film Drive about the stunt man/ getaway driver who didn't say a lot. I really liked Drive, although i might have liked it even more if there had been just a teeny bit more dialogue in it.

Drive, of course! Yep I knew it was something more recent than that Dr Who episode I'd seen her in. Yeah not a bad film that. That song A Real Hero in that movie is a good tune, and also the Kavinsky track.

Seven Psychopaths.Quality film but maddening at the end when as the credits start and the fantastic Different Drum by Stone Poneys feat Linda Ronstadt starts playing but after a few seconds it cuts off and goes to Tom Waits' character phoning Colin Farrell's character to ask him why he hadn't included his requested message at the end of the film .

Headhunters, that Norwegian film about the art thief. Really good , that one.

Naked, first saw this film when it came out around, what, 93 -94? Brilliant film. Or brilliantly grim - that early 90s, post Thatcher Britain.David Thewlis, fantastic - should have got an oscar for this. Actually, it's definitely one of my all time favourite films, come to think of it.

"Was I bored? No, I wasn't fuckin' bored. I'm never bored. That's the trouble with everybody - you're all so bored. You've had nature explained to you and you're bored with it, you've had the living body explained to you and you're bored with it, you've had the universe explained to you and you're bored with it, so now you want cheap thrills and, like, plenty of them, and it doesn't matter how tawdry or vacuous they are as long as it's new as long as it's new as long as it flashes and fuckin' bleeps in forty fuckin' different colors. So whatever else you can say about me, I'm not fuckin' bored."

Thanks again wrote: Naked, first saw this film when it came out around, what, 93 -94? Brilliant film. Or brilliantly grim - that early 90s, post Thatcher Britain.David Thewlis, fantastic - should have got an oscar for this. Actually, it's definitely one of my all time favourite films, come to think of it.

"Was I bored? No, I wasn't fuckin' bored. I'm never bored. That's the trouble with everybody - you're all so bored. You've had nature explained to you and you're bored with it, you've had the living body explained to you and you're bored with it, you've had the universe explained to you and you're bored with it, so now you want cheap thrills and, like, plenty of them, and it doesn't matter how tawdry or vacuous they are as long as it's new as long as it's new as long as it flashes and fuckin' bleeps in forty fuckin' different colors. So whatever else you can say about me, I'm not fuckin' bored."

I can remember seeing that on video with a friend who still lives near me but who I never see anymore, a recluse actually, but this was one of the many films that he turned me on to, I must watch it again,

How that main character would rail against the facebook/twitter world that we now inhabit..

Cranelane wrote:

Thanks again wrote: Naked, first saw this film when it came out around, what, 93 -94? Brilliant film. Or brilliantly grim - that early 90s, post Thatcher Britain.David Thewlis, fantastic - should have got an oscar for this. Actually, it's definitely one of my all time favourite films, come to think of it.

"Was I bored? No, I wasn't fuckin' bored. I'm never bored. That's the trouble with everybody - you're all so bored. You've had nature explained to you and you're bored with it, you've had the living body explained to you and you're bored with it, you've had the universe explained to you and you're bored with it, so now you want cheap thrills and, like, plenty of them, and it doesn't matter how tawdry or vacuous they are as long as it's new as long as it's new as long as it flashes and fuckin' bleeps in forty fuckin' different colors. So whatever else you can say about me, I'm not fuckin' bored."

I can remember seeing that on video with a friend who still lives near me but who I never see anymore, a recluse actually, but this was one of the many films that he turned me on to, I must watch it again,

How that main character would rail against the facebook/twitter world that we now inhabit..

"Is Naked Britain's Most Under-rated film?" I'd say yes, abso- fucking- lutely

The Orb sampled some of Thewlis' character Johnny's diatribes from the film in one of their tracks a few years back.

For all the film's grimness there's some side splittingly hilarious lines from Thewlis, absolute classics

Maggie - "Have you ever seen a dead body?"

Johnny - "Only me own"

headhunters looks good, cheers for the tip, johnny.

i am currently gobbling up episodes of 'parks and recreation' like a bowlful of skittles. they're showing the second series on beeb 2 at the mo, i think - the first series was not great, but it gets better and better. series 4 is ace, and i'm developing a bit of a crush on adam scott as ben wyatt. he's lovely.

film-wise, there's something coming out soon that i'm looking forward to, but i'm buggered if i can remember what. hope this helps.

not the weather for cinemas, anyway, is it? i fancy an outdoor screening of something frivolous while i eat grapes from a picnic and get gently sloshed on something fizzy.

Thanks again wrote:

"Is Naked Britain's Most Under-rated film?" I'd say yes, abso- fucking- lutely

I would rate Naked alongside Kes, 1984 and A Clockwork Orange as masterpieces of British cinema, the theories about the Johnny character put forward in that Guardian article make for interesting reading, must watch it again soon...

Cranelane wrote:

Thanks again wrote:

"Is Naked Britain's Most Under-rated film?" I'd say yes, abso- fucking- lutely

I would rate Naked alongside Kes, 1984 and A Clockwork Orange as masterpieces of British cinema, the theories about the Johnny character put forward in that Guardian article make for interesting reading, must watch it again soon...

Thewlis' character Johnny has such a razor sharp wit.Actually, razor sharp doesn't even come close to describing it. Almost every line is genius.The funny as fuck scenes where he meets the homeless Scottish lad Archie and then Archie's girlfriend, she asks Johnny if when he saw Archie he had any chips and he replies "Only a big one on his shoulder" lol

Thanks again wrote:

Cranelane wrote:

Thanks again wrote:

"Is Naked Britain's Most Under-rated film?" I'd say yes, abso- fucking- lutely

I would rate Naked alongside Kes, 1984 and A Clockwork Orange as masterpieces of British cinema, the theories about the Johnny character put forward in that Guardian article make for interesting reading, must watch it again soon...

Thewlis' character Johnny has such a razor sharp wit.Actually, razor sharp doesn't even come close to describing it. Almost every line is genius.The funny as fuck scenes where he meets the homeless Scottish lad Archie and then Archie's girlfriend, she asks Johnny if when he saw Archie he had any chips and he replies "Only a big one on his shoulder" lol

Archie: You taking the piss?

Johnny: Your'e giving it away, aren't you?

MAGGIE!

new 'endeavour' is excellent. shaun evans is such a marvelis actor - really very good in his own right, but also managing to evoke john thaw in the subtleties of his performance. just brilliant.

'broadchurch' finale tomorrow! WHODUNNIT?

bloodynora wrote:

'broadchurch' finale tomorrow! WHODUNNIT?

Olivia Coleman's hubby I reckon . Though I could and probably will be surprised. Could be almost any of 'em.

Or her sister? We saw her in one early episode, she said she knew something but we didn't find out what and never saw her again did we?

Thanks again wrote: Or her sister? We saw her in one early episode, she said she knew something but we didn't find out what and never saw her again did we?

oooooooooh! well remembered. i don't think it was the sister, but the sister could have dirt on the hubby. it does look like it might be him now, doesn't it?

but what is his MOTIVE?

bloodynora wrote:

Thanks again wrote: Or her sister? We saw her in one early episode, she said she knew something but we didn't find out what and never saw her again did we?

oooooooooh! well remembered. i don't think it was the sister, but the sister could have dirt on the hubby. it does look like it might be him now, doesn't it?

but what is his MOTIVE?

Just noticed it throughout the series that we've never seen the sister again.Think in the scene mentioned she told Ellie she knew something but wanted money to tell what she knew because she was skint again so Ellie told her to piss off because she didn't want to lend her money again.And isn't she something to do with that young journalist lad (Olly)? They were a couple but now split up? There was one scene in that same early episode where the two of them were colluding in something or other? Could even be Olly who did the murder to sell newspapers and get himself up the career ladder? Is that the motive? Probably not .

Ellie's hubby has acted and said things suspicious fairly often throughout the series but it will probably turn out not to be him afterall!

An aside, the murdered lad's parents seem an odd match to me, she's too good for him INMHO.

Tonight's final episode is 5 minutes longer than usual i think and i read the revelation of the killer will be at the very, very end

edit: maybe it was Psychic Steve?

bloodynora wrote: i am currently gobbling up episodes of 'parks and recreation' like a bowlful of skittles. they're showing the second series on beeb 2 at the mo, i think - the first series was not great, but it gets better and better. series 4 is ace, and i'm developing a bit of a crush on adam scott as ben wyatt. he's lovely.

I'm pretty much up-to-date with these, downloading them to my phone as they appear online. It's not exactly cutting edge, but well worth watching. Tom genuinely cracks me up, and I think I've got crushes on both April and Donna!

Started watching Happy Endings as well. Again, not exactly cutting edge, but easy to watch.

Also, The Following. Not convinced by James Purefoy as a serial killer nor indeed Kevin Bacon as his nemesis cop (although he does make me chuckle at times). Good concept though, and plenty of scope for twists and turns so will stick with it.

Broadchurch will return? How's that going to work? Another murder in the community still trying to come to terms with one already?

Mixed feelings on who the killer turned out to be. It was who I'd guess it was but would have preferred a surprise. And why no twist after the revelation of the killer in the first 10 minutes of the episode?

Glad to find out the sister of DI Miller is alive and well though! DI Miller gave her A GRAND for the info that was basically just that the sister had seen a bloke in a hat she couldn't recognise putting something in a wheelie bin on the night of the murder? lol

And what was with the murdered lad's dad being allowed to go and speak to the killer in the Police cell ( through the hatch admittedly , but still )? Seemed a bit odd.

Didn't think Olivia Colman's acting in reaction to finding out it was her hubby who did the murder was that great.I mean, it was alright but nothing special i thought, maybe i should watch that scene again to see what all the fuss is about. Still, was a good series by ITV standards.

Thanks again wrote: Broadchurch will return? How's that going to work? Another murder in the community still trying to come to terms with one already?

I KNOW!

Thanks again wrote: Mixed feelings on who the killer turned out to be. It was who I'd guess it was but would have preferred a surprise. And why no twist after the revelation of the killer in the first 10 minutes of the episode?

aha. i think it was because this: as well as the murder mystery, what they actually did throughout the series was explore the theme of kiddy fiddling, including the impact on wives, family members, collective guilt, the legacy of accusations and suspicion, the fine line regarding age and consent, and so on. in fact, the more i think about it, the more impressed i am. it wasn't flawless, but i think it might be first time i've seen this subject examined on telly with any intelligence since the brilliant brass eye.

Thanks again wrote: And what was with the murdered lad's dad being allowed to go and speak to the killer in the Police cell ( through the hatch admittedly , but still )? Seemed a bit odd.

yes. silly. although i did like the framing of the shot.

Thanks again wrote: Didn't think Olivia Colman's acting in reaction to finding out it was her hubby who did the murder was that great.I mean, it was alright but nothing special i thought, maybe i should watch that scene again to see what all the fuss is about. Still, was a good series by ITV standards.

i actually thought she was incredible in this bit. and i thought danny's dad did very well too.

El Jarvo wrote:

bloodynora wrote: i am currently gobbling up episodes of 'parks and recreation' like a bowlful of skittles. they're showing the second series on beeb 2 at the mo, i think - the first series was not great, but it gets better and better. series 4 is ace, and i'm developing a bit of a crush on adam scott as ben wyatt. he's lovely.

I'm pretty much up-to-date with these, downloading them to my phone as they appear online. It's not exactly cutting edge, but well worth watching. Tom genuinely cracks me up, and I think I've got crushes on both April and Donna!

the best thing about tom is that he has a face like a muppet - an actual jim henson muppet. especially when he does that open-mouthed smile. kills me.

bloodynora wrote:

Thanks again wrote: Broadchurch will return? How's that going to work? Another murder in the community still trying to come to terms with one already?

I KNOW!

As one review i read put it - "we need more series like Broadchurch, not more Broadchurch"

bloodynora wrote:

Thanks again wrote: Mixed feelings on who the killer turned out to be. It was who I'd guess it was but would have preferred a surprise. And why no twist after the revelation of the killer in the first 10 minutes of the episode?

aha. i think it was because this: as well as the murder mystery, what they actually did throughout the series was explore the theme of kiddy fiddling, including the impact on wives, family members, collective guilt, the legacy of accusations and suspicion, the fine line regarding age and consent, and so on. in fact, the more i think about it, the more impressed i am. it wasn't flawless, but i think it might be first time i've seen this subject examined on telly with any intelligence since the brilliant brass eye.

Fair points

watched 'four lions' with the kids at school today. it really is so very very good. not much keeps this lot quiet/entertained for an hour and a half, but they loved it.

(whether they picked up all the clever bits i need them to work on next week remains to be seen. )

still incredibly proud of my secondborn dubbing it a 'bomb-com'.

Four Lions, reminded me of in the pub a while back me and a mate were talking about how Fräulein the barmaid looked and another mate misheard as Four Lions and started going on about the film. Well it was funny at the time, ok?

Watson & Oliver second series started Thursday night bbc2.Can't make up my mind about this comedy duo. Most sketches are fairly bland and the punchlines (if any) often don't deliver but i do like the pair of them somehow, regardless.Maybe i'm their target demographic tee hee

Thanks again wrote: me and a mate were talking about how Fräulein the barmaid looked

was her NAME "fraulein", or is that a descriptive term with which i am unfamiliar? ("that barmaid is WELL fraulein, innit.")

i am now up to date with 'parks and rec'. i hate having to wait a week for things.

tom just said something was "chronicles of ridiculous". if anyone thinks i am not now going to use that every single day, they are SORELY mistaken.

silver linings playbook. terrible and dull, i thought. 8 oscar nominations. am i missing something?!

(reminded me a bit of blue valentine - another mystifyingly celebrated hollywood version of miserable realism and bog-standard neuroses that actually said bugger all about anything.)

This week's episode of The Village.Powerful and moving stuff with Joe facing the end of his leave and having to go back to the front in World War 1.Brilliant acting from all , especially Maxine Peake.

Factory™ wrote: Can't make up my mind about this comedy duo.

Based on that picture alone I probably would with both of them.

Does that help?

bloodynora wrote:

(reminded me a bit of blue valentine - another mystifyingly celebrated hollywood version of miserable realism and bog-standard neuroses that actually said bugger all about anything.)

I've still got Blue Valentine half-watched on my tellybox recorder thing. There's realism and then there's just... boring. Having said that, the director's current film, The Place Beyond The Pines (also starring Ryan Gosling) is pretty good. It feels like about three different movies, but not in a bad way. Perhaps because it feels like three movies sequentially rather than concurrently.

oh, is that by the same bloke?! hmmm. i am no fan of thin-headed gosling either, though he leaves my sisters swooning.

bloodynora wrote: i am no fan of thin-headed gosling either, though he leaves my sisters swooning.

Well if you're patient, Bradley 'hangover' Cooper ends up getting a lot of screen time too. I think this may be his most serious role yet, and he does fine. It's funny how women talk about male actors in terms of whether they fancy them (and men do the same about actresses). But as a bloke I didn't think once about whether I fancied Gosling, just that he tends be a decent actor. As soon as Eva Mendes appeared on screen though i went "mmm she's definitely not wearing a bra...".

Debaser wrote:

bloodynora wrote: i am no fan of thin-headed gosling either, though he leaves my sisters swooning.

Well if you're patient, Bradley 'hangover' Cooper ends up getting a lot of screen time too. I think this may be his most serious role yet, and he does fine. It's funny how women talk about male actors in terms of whether they fancy them (and men do the same about actresses). But as a bloke I didn't think once about whether I fancied Gosling, just that he tends be a decent actor. As soon as Eva Mendes appeared on screen though i went "mmm she's definitely not wearing a bra...".

ha! i object to this in the strongest possible terms. i only mentioned gosling's alleged sex appeal because it baffles me. normally, i am VERY WELL-BEHAVED when it comes to not objectifying gentlemen on the big screen.

(mind you, i'm going to watch iron man 3 tonight, and i fully intend to objectify the pants off robert downey jr.)

fassbender's another one getting a lot of exposure and critical attention at the moment. i have to say he did a brilliant job in jane eyre, and fish tank, but i don't really understand the sex symbol status.

bradley cooper was the lead in silver linings playbook. i will never be able to take him seriously after 'the hangover'(which i hated), and 'he's just not that into you' (another shocker). and let's face it, he's no dirk benedict.

bloodynora wrote: . normally, i am VERY WELL-BEHAVED when it comes to not objectifying gentlemen on the big screen.

bradley cooper ... let's face it, he's no dirk benedict.

Thanks for clarifying! (oh and yes I see what you did there with: 'face' it.)

Debaser wrote:

bloodynora wrote: . normally, i am VERY WELL-BEHAVED when it comes to not objectifying gentlemen on the big screen.

bradley cooper ... let's face it, he's no dirk benedict.

Thanks for clarifying! (oh and yes I see what you did there with: 'face' it.)

ha! *bows* yes, it was absolutely very much intentional, and not at all subconscious.

Factory™ wrote:

An aside, the murdered lad's parents seem an odd match to me, she's too good for him INMHO.

SHE'S OUT OF ATTACK THE BLOCK!

i knew i knew her from somewhere.

(of course, i could have googled it, but instead i went old school and let it niggle me for weeks.)

bloodynora wrote:

Factory™ wrote:

An aside, the murdered lad's parents seem an odd match to me, she's too good for him INMHO.

SHE'S OUT OF ATTACK THE BLOCK!

i knew i knew her from somewhere.

(of course, i could have googled it, but instead i went old school and let it niggle me for weeks.)

Yep that's her. I'd watched Attack The Block quite recently so recognised her quite early on in Broadchurch. She was also in the Entire History Of You episode from the first series of Black Mirror

Factory™ wrote: She was also in the Entire History Of You episode from the first series of Black Mirror

was that the one with the memory chip you can replay? it's the only one from the first series i saw, but by all accounts it was far and away the best...

bloodynora wrote:

Factory™ wrote: She was also in the Entire History Of You episode from the first series of Black Mirror

was that the one with the memory chip you can replay? it's the only one from the first series i saw, but by all accounts it was far and away the best...

Yeah the memory chip one. She played opposite Tony Kebbell in that episode. My favourite of the first series though was Fifteen Million Merits. Every time i hear I Have A Dream by Abba since then i can't help but think of the opening scenes to that episode.Also brilliant scenes in that episode were Bing's speech and Jessica Brown-Findlay singing Anyone Who Knows What Love Is (Will Understand)

Factory™ wrote: She played opposite Tony Kebbell in that episode.

yes, he was very good. i seem to remember watching it on boxing day or something equally incongruous. PEACE AND GOODWILL TO ALL MEN. robert downey jr has bought the films rights.

anyway, LOOK AT THIS!

new channel 4 series 'skint'

"Brand new three-part observational documentary series, Skint tells provocative and revealing stories from the inside out about how people survive without work. The series focuses on the lives of a group of people who are either in long-term unemployment, have never worked, or are growing up without any expectation of working."

made in scunny, innit.

Nothing against Scunny but I'd be more excited if the doc was about this

Debaser wrote: Nothing against Scunny

like tinie tempah, you have obviously never been.

Watching Elton John on bbc4, has there ever been a less likely looking pop star I wonder, the footage of him in action from the '70s is truly horrific even by the standards of the time...

Jezza Vine and his amazing technicolour flashing graphics describing the local elections victories and losses

nice little interview in today's observer with olivia colman

she really has gone up in my estimation. i keep thinking about the scene with her reaction to the news in the broadchurch finale. that moment where she's retching - so painfully real.

bloodynora wrote:

Debaser wrote: Nothing against Scunny

like tinie tempah, you have obviously never been.

true dat (as tinie might say...)

Cranelane wrote: Watching Elton John on bbc4, has there ever been a less likely looking pop star I wonder, the footage of him in action from the '70s is truly horrific even by the standards of the time...

I'm looking forward to hearing Elton's collab with Queens Of The Stone Age on their new album. According to Josh Homme, Elton phoned him up and said 'The only thing missing from your band is an actual queen!'

By the way I wanted to make these last two posts one post, but I don't know how to quote more than one person in one post. Anyone care to enlighten me?

Debaser wrote:

By the way I wanted to make these last two posts one post, but I don't know how to quote more than one person in one post. Anyone care to enlighten me?

i click to quote one person, then copy the text in this little writing box, go back to the thread, click to quote the next person, paste the copied text into the little writing box. voila! two quotes.

or you could do it using the html e.g. [ quote=name ] before the quote and [ /quote ] at the end, without spaces.

or there's probably a much simpler and easier way to do it that i don't know...

bloodynora wrote:

i click to quote one person, then copy the text in this little writing box, go back to the thread, click to quote the next person, paste the copied text into the little writing box. voila! two quotes.

or you could do it using the html e.g. [ quote=name ] before the quote and [ /quote ] at the end, without spaces.

kind of you to reply Nora. I might just carry on quoting people separately...

Well i watched this film Looking For The Sugar Man. About this Rodriguez guy who should have been the next Bob Dylan apparently but disappeared and was thought to have killed himself on stage in the 70s. Turned out he was still alive and the film is about how he was tracked down and made some comeback concerts in South Africa where he was massive.It was alright i spose but then i'm not South African. Had heard rave reviews about it so gave it a go. Should have known better though as on of the rave reviewers was Edith fucking Bowman.God, sorry but i can't stand that woman. I just think she's horrible.I really should have known better than go on one of her reviews, ugh.

mr whicher. very good. i do love paddy c, even though my friend james said he looks like a hairy potato.

bloodynora wrote: [ anyway, LOOK AT THIS!

new channel 4 series 'skint'

"Brand new three-part observational documentary series, Skint tells provocative and revealing stories from the inside out about how people survive without work. The series focuses on the lives of a group of people who are either in long-term unemployment, have never worked, or are growing up without any expectation of working."

made in scunny, innit.

i just found out some of the kids i teach are in this! i am SO PROUD.

(i will be less proud when they are featured breaking windows and "shanking" people.)

STARTS TONIGHT! get yer popcorn in. and yer white lightning.

i'll have a look at Skint, it's on in a minute.

Watched the culture show special on The Smiths last night.Fairly well made though a little short at half an hour, i felt.Or half an hour too long tee hee.

Re: Skint, am watching it, opening scenes featured a heavily pregnant woman jumping on a trampoline! What about Health and Safety!?

the news! talk about depressing!

The Fall on BBC2.This is really good. Gillian Anderson ( never really been a fan of her but hey) on the hunt for a serial killer in Belfast.

I watched Mike Leigh's Another Year on C4 last night.I'd not seen this one of his before.One of those films where i'm restless and thinking about going and doing something else for the first half hour but by the end am totally engrossed in the characters and what happens to them.That's the genius of Mike Leigh i guess.

The wife Gerri of the middle class couple rubbed me the wrong way more and more as the film went on.Lesley Manville as Mary, more and more desperate and rattled by the end.

This weekend watched the original Casino Royale. Herb Albert & The Tijuana Brass Band kinda killed it, that and the whole 60's vibe. Entertaining and I do enjoy watching Ursula Andress.

The Hobbit yesterday was my napping movie and I did nap through some of it.

Django Unchained. Did not make it to Leo D's entrance. Felt like I'd rather be outside than watching that. Wifey was annoying flinching at all the gratuitous violence and bullet holes.

bloodynora wrote: mr whicher. very good. i do love paddy c, even though my friend james said he looks like a hairy potato.

Does anyone else spare a bit more time for any actor who appeared in 24HPP or Control? I do. Its not always an easy task, for every Bernard Sumner in Life On Mars theres a Bez playing a paedo in Eastenders.

In fact, I have in the past based my viewing on whether or not theres an actor involved from one of those films.

Sad, I know.

james actually said "hairy PUZZLED potato". my mistake.

i saw john simm in pinter's 'betrayal' at sheff crucible last year. absolutely fantastic. hoping i'll get to see him in 'the hothouse' in the big smoke in the next couple of months.

have only just caught up with 'the fall' and am very much enjoying it. however, i do not recommend starting to watch the whole series at 11pm, falling asleep halfway through an episode and then having very bad dreams. (i did laugh/cringe at the "oh, so you are SHOCKED that a woman can use a man as a sex object? *arches eyebrow*" bit. I AM WOMAN HEAR ME ROAR.)

there's a mark e smith/gillian anderson joke to be made here, but i cannot be arsed to think of it.

OMD - Enola Gay on Later With Jools, preceded by an awful band from LA called Deap Vally, probably being hyped by the NME right now...

For those of you who didn't wait and watch for the latest NatWest horror story on the BBC1 (UK TV) consumer affairs programme Watchdog, check out the brief clip at around 50 minutes into the programme about one Mr Peter Hook:

Watchdog BBC1 UK TV Consumer Affairs programme

Watch those Google ratings fall... (PMSL, I believe is the phrase.)

😄 😄 😄

Presumably this is episode 5 of series 31. I'm getting "not currently available on BBC iplayer".

Is it just me or is The Fall really bloody scary? Definitely unsettling and disturbing. Also, I'd put money on Gillian Anderson making a pass at that female officer who in last night's episode revealed she's gay.There's definitely some chemistry there methinks.Though they'd have to be quick as there's only one episode left.

Factory™ wrote: Is it just me or is The Fall really bloody scary? Definitely unsettling and disturbing. Also, I'd put money on Gillian Anderson making a pass at that female officer who in last night's episode revealed she's gay.There's definitely some chemistry there methinks.Though they'd have to be quick as there's only one episode left.

I had a discussion about this at work to day with a colleague, about how creepy it would be to watch it if you were in the house on your own.. My girlfriend watches it but I am usually out walking the dog when it's on.. And I don't even have a dog..[eek3]

I just caught the end of Johnny Marr performing Big Mouth Strikes Again on Later With Jools, his vocals sounded excellent, I guess the touring has brought that side of him really to the fore, I was also impressed by the drummer, it's not the easiest song to do justice to I would guess but they really got it right. Definitely worth checking out on Friday night..

Cranelane wrote: I just caught the end of Johnny Marr performing Big Mouth Strikes Again on Later With Jools, his vocals sounded excellent, I guess the touring has brought that side of him really to the fore, I was also impressed by the drummer, it's not the easiest song to do justice to I would guess but they really got it right. Definitely worth checking out on Friday night..

Yeah Johnny Marr was pretty good but the performance i enjoyed the most was Disclosure. Was watching on BBC2HD and had the HD sound through my stereo and listening on my headphones. Great electronic beats and bleeps coming through, sounded ace.A good track that one. Also found myself enjoying Bonnie Raitt's song.

Cranelane wrote: I just caught the end of Johnny Marr performing Big Mouth Strikes Again on Later With Jools, his vocals sounded excellent, I guess the touring has brought that side of him really to the fore, I was also impressed by the drummer, it's not the easiest song to do justice to I would guess but they really got it right. Definitely worth checking out on Friday night..

Marr did 4 songs in total over the Tuesday night live broadcast and tonight's extended, that's one more than usual for any artist on Jools isn't it? Mixed feelings on him falling back on doing two Smiths songs out of the four though ( How Soon Is Now tonight and Bigmouth on Tuesday night which wasn't repeated tonight like the show usually does?) Felt a bit like he should have done more of his new solo stuff than fall back on old Smiths songs.

Was nice to see the LOVELY Jessie Ware appear on the show doing the track with Disclosure.

Maybe Johnny Marr will in time as he records more of his own music come to rely less on going back to the Smiths catalogue but for now yes he is clearly feeling that he needs to play some of those tunes as well as his new stuff.. He will always face that dilemma I suppose.. I was switching channels between Jools and The Doors doc on BBC4, still so sad to think that Ray Manzarek is no longer with us, he was a great character as well as a being a genius musician. By the way, this looks interesting.

tonight!

the returned/les revenants

avec soundtrack de mogwai.

bloodynora wrote: tonight!

the returned/les revenants

avec soundtrack de mogwai.

Soundtrack de Mogwai vous dites? Hmm. "French supernatural thriller set in a small Alpine village where members of a group of men, women and children find themselves in a state of confusion, trying to return to their homes - unaware of the fact they have been dead for several years". Said small Alpine village is in the shadow of a large dam according to my Guardian Guide. I'll wager that in the final episode the Dam bursts and floods/destroys the village. This isn't a spoiler as I really haven't a clue...Maybe it already did burst and that's why they're dead.

ooooh. that was a bit good, wasn't it? je suis furieusement intriguée.

the little boy was TRES creepy.

Debaser wrote:

Said small Alpine village is in the shadow of a large dam according to my Guardian Guide. I'll wager that in the final episode the Dam bursts and floods/destroys the village. This isn't a spoiler as I really haven't a clue...Maybe it already did burst and that's why they're dead.

there's definitely *some* connection to the dam, isn't there? BUT WHAT?!

Yeah The Returned was pretty good, not sure if i'll stick with it though, we'll see. Kept thinking the Mother of that Camille girl was Amanda Donohoe.

bloodynora wrote:

there's definitely *some* connection to the dam, isn't there? BUT WHAT?!

Yes, why is the water level dropping? Is it a slo-mo representation of the town having been flooded? And when the old geezer set fire to his home why did he leave the fire and then hop off the dam to his (presumed) death? Also how come the girl he tied up (his daughter?) wasn't found by the firemen?

Maybe the whole town is dead/flooded and doesn't realise it. When the lights flickered out, did that represent the end of reality? Is it all some sort of purgatory after that?... Thanks for making me watch bloodynora, now I'm going to have to stay dedicated for another seven weeks! 😈

Debaser wrote:

And when the old geezer set fire to his home why did he leave the fire and then hop off the dam to his (presumed) death? Also how come the girl he tied up (his daughter?) wasn't found by the firemen?

I presumed the woman was his wife who was also a returnee.She looked a lot younger than him because she died many years ago but returned as the age she was when she died.My theory is that her body wasn't found by the firemen because as she'd already died and when she "died" again her body vanished because she was never alive in the first place.Maybe.

I though the people "returning" had all died 4 years earlier...

Debaser wrote: I though the people "returning" had all died 4 years earlier...

Yeah i thought that first. The girl Camille for example. But if i'm not mistaken some of the returned are ones that died many years before.

if it's set now (which i think it is) then that bloke who looks like he's in a new york new wave band died 10 years ago, didn't he? we saw him looking at his own headstone...

i don't have any theories yet, only thoughts.

1. so far two living people have died directly or indirectly as a result of those returning - the barmaid, and the old man. is there a price/exchange?

2. is the little boy a returnee or an agent of the return? if the former, given his returning to that woman and her not knowing who he is, maybe he's an abortion or miscarriage she had in the past?

C'EST TOUT, FOLKS!

Debaser wrote:

Yes, why is the water level dropping? Is it a slo-mo representation of the town having been flooded?

Maybe the whole town is dead/flooded and doesn't realise it. When the lights flickered out, did that represent the end of reality? Is it all some sort of purgatory after that?...

Thanks for making me watch bloodynora, now I'm going to have to stay dedicated for another seven weeks! 😈

my pleasure, treasure.

bloodynora wrote: if it's set now (which i think it is) then that bloke who looks like he's in a new york new wave band died 10 years ago, didn't he? we saw him looking at his own headstone...

i don't have any theories yet, only thoughts.

1. so far two living people have died directly or indirectly as a result of those returning - the barmaid, and the old man. is there a price/exchange?

2. is the little boy a returnee or an agent of the return? if the former, given his returning to that woman and her not knowing who he is, maybe he's an abortion or miscarriage she had in the past?

C'EST TOUT, FOLKS!

Yes, that New York indie band bloke (Simon?) - his gravestone had his death as in 2002.

Regarding the barmaid who got stabbed to death in the subway- in the trailer for the series (from your link ) you see for a brief second a clip of what looks like her, looking (shocked) at numerous stab wounds on her body.So i assume she returns at some point too.

cor blimey. you're eagle-eyed like an 80s action man, johnny.

bloodynora wrote:

1. so far two living people have died directly or indirectly as a result of those returning - the barmaid, and the old man. is there a price/exchange?

i think i got this idea from 'pushing daisies' - the last episode of which was shown four years ago today.

blinkin' 'eck. where does the time go, eh?

*stares forlornly out of window*

bloodynora wrote: cor blimey. you're eagle-eyed like an 80s action man, johnny.

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Rather drunk last night i found myself digging out my recording of the Olympics Opening Ceremony.Nearly a year on and it was still totally electrifying and moving as fuck.Still the best thing on telly ever.Had the sound on Pandemonium segment pumping out the stereo.

Never did quite work out what the Beatles Sergeant Pepper had to do with the industrial revolution though 😄

Factory™ wrote:

bloodynora wrote: cor blimey. you're eagle-eyed like an 80s action man, johnny.

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Rather drunk last night i found myself digging out my recording of the Olympics Opening Ceremony.Nearly a year on and it was still totally electrifying and moving as fuck.

that was only a YEAR ago?! it feels like forever. when i'm pissed i'm moved and electrified by elo/olivia newton john's xanadu.

the man who designed that petally torch has got something in the honours list today.

things i've watched this week: secret life of cats (good), poirot (quite poor, but riddled with pretty girls in enviable period frocks).

i think i will probably go and see joss whedon's much ado, but through narrowed, deeply suspicious eyes. i am still smarting from 'the cabin in the woods' fiasco. apparently his take on this play is ideal for "anyone who's ever been frustrated by the lack of fingering in shakespeare".

i take back everything i said about not seeing the appeal of michael fassbender. just watched jane eyre again and he's all brooding eyes and mardy arse and yorkshire accent and lovely lines.

reader, i fancied him.

bloodynora wrote: mardy arse

😕

Debaser wrote:

bloodynora wrote: mardy arse

😕

grumpy. gloomy. lugubrious.

but with a sensitive soul, natch.

i've just been told he's rather impressive in the pants department too. then moments later i was also told - by a very reliable source - that he is entirely without a sense of humour. oh well.

*throws pencil case with "nora fassbender" scrawled all over it into the bin*

[eek2]

AHA. so the murdery one attacked the blonde woman years ago, and she was pregnant with victor at the time, right?

bloodynora wrote: AHA. so the murdery one attacked the blonde woman years ago, and she was pregnant with victor at the time, right?

So that woman looking at her stab wounds in the trailer that i thought was the barmaid come back to life, returned, wasn't the barmaid but the woman involuntarily finding herself looking after the annoying Victor boy? So there's two women with stab wounds?

As the oven chips in the McAins advert say, I am lost 'ere

bloodynora wrote: AHA. so the murdery one attacked the blonde woman years ago, and she was pregnant with victor at the time, right?

Seems that way. But there would appear to be an inconsistency here. If the others (e.g Camille and Thomas) have come back the same age they were when they died, shouldn't The Lady Doctor (I think that was her profession in episode one) be dealing with Victor the foetus? Gross I know, but surely more consistent.

Factory™ wrote:

So that woman looking at her stab wounds in the trailer that i thought was the barmaid come back to life, returned, wasn't the barmaid but the woman involuntarily finding herself looking after the annoying Victor boy? So there's two women with stab wounds?

As the oven chips in the McAins advert say, I am lost 'ere

Well they said in episode two yesterday that the barmaid isn't actually dead, just in a reeallly bad way. So we could yet see her looking at her wounds/scars if she recovers (or dies and returns). And as the 'murdery one' is "back" and is a serial attacker, it would make sense that more than one woman has been stabbed etc. I'm not convinced that the attacker is actually the guy they suspect though; that would be too easy. In fact I think we already saw the guy who attacked the barmaid didn't we?

Further hints to support my "dam bursting and drowning the town into purgatory" theory: I noticed in last nights opening credits that we see a drowned deer bobbing around under water. Strange gurgling noises and a sink filling up with water from the drain. And also the logo or "ident" (as they say in TV-land) for the show is an image of people reflecting back differently in water. (I'm pretty sure the stabbed woman in this picture is the barmaid isn't it?)

Debaser wrote:

bloodynora wrote: AHA. so the murdery one attacked the blonde woman years ago, and she was pregnant with victor at the time, right?

Seems that way. But there would appear to be an inconsistency here. If the others (e.g Camille and Thomas) have come back the same age they were when they died, shouldn't The Lady Doctor (I think that was her profession in episode one) be dealing with Victor the foetus? Gross I know, but surely more consistent.

yep, we just worked that out tonight in the pub.

so i'm back to having no fucking clue who victor is.

Debaser wrote:

Factory™ wrote:

So that woman looking at her stab wounds in the trailer that i thought was the barmaid come back to life, returned, wasn't the barmaid but the woman involuntarily finding herself looking after the annoying Victor boy? So there's two women with stab wounds?

As the oven chips in the McAins advert say, I am lost 'ere

Well they said in episode two yesterday that the barmaid isn't actually dead, just in a reeallly bad way. So we could yet see her looking at her wounds/scars if she recovers (or dies and returns). And as the 'murdery one' is "back" and is a serial attacker, it would make sense that more than one woman has been stabbed etc. I'm not convinced that the attacker is actually the guy they suspect though; that would be too easy. In fact I think we already saw the guy who attacked the barmaid didn't we?

Further hints to support my "dam bursting and drowning the town into purgatory" theory: I noticed in last nights opening credits that we see a drowned deer bobbing around under water. Strange gurgling noises and a sink filling up with water from the drain. And also the logo or "ident" (as they say in TV-land) for the show is an image of people reflecting back differently in water. (I'm pretty sure the stabbed woman in this picture is the barmaid isn't it?)

yeah, that's the barmaid. and he is a serial attacker/killer, so there will be more than one woman damaged by him. the bloke what done it walloped the police suspect with a spade, after having been walloped himself, didn't he? presumably they're brothers?

the purgatory/whole town wiped out by burst dam theory *would* make sense of the (newly dead?) population being reunited with the long dead, and the long dead being the same age as when they popped their clogs.

not convinced yet though. very, very interested to see how it will unfold...

bloodynora wrote: the bloke what done it walloped the police suspect with a spade, after having been walloped himself, didn't he? presumably they're brothers?

I thought they were father and son, as he arrives at the house muttering "where are they?", then asks the guy suspected by the police where 'Mother' is, but not where his father is. But I may have it wrong, it is foreign after all!

Debaser wrote:

bloodynora wrote: the bloke what done it walloped the police suspect with a spade, after having been walloped himself, didn't he? presumably they're brothers?

I thought they were father and son, as he arrives at the house muttering "where are they?", then asks the guy suspected by the police where 'Mother' is, but not where his father is. But I may have it wrong, it is foreign after all!

ah, mais oui. c'est possible.

(i liked how all the adverts in the breaks had french subtitles.)

Ah oui, je comprendez maintenant, merci. C'est non difficile. Mais oui, Madame

Zuit allors!

Au Revoir

eh hoh heeh hoh.

Debaser wrote:

I thought they were father and son,

Might have got that one wrong. Seems they are in fact brothers.

I'm planning to watch some of the Glastonbury festival on TV over the weekend, Professor Green is on now doing a sort of cover on "Get Lucky" , Chic are on later, looking forward to that.

i am no longer even trying to second guess 'the returned'. c'est IMPOSSIBLE.

i have been watching the new series of miss marple, and the americans.

i do like this revamped marple. i like the titles artwork. so fifties. and the programmes are generally excellent - top notch production values and solid casts at the very least. fiona shaw was brilliant in sunday's episode, although the rest of it wasn't terribly wonderful - and while i am fond of that blonde girl from fresh meat, she was woefully miscast and her performance abysmal. especially compared with charity wakefield the week before, who was ASTONISHING. mesmeric, at moments.

i am really enjoying the americans, although i am a bit sad that no-one else seems to be watching it but me, so i have no-one to talk to about it. matthew rhys is great in everything i see him in. except for that one thing when he was dylan thomas.

Not feeling Glastonbury yet. It's gone too The One Show. Bring back Primal Scream's spirit of 2005 when they insulted the whole Pyramid Stage audience, refused to leave the stage resulting in the plug being pulled on them and called Basement Jaxx cocksuckers😄

Portishead now on the red button

At the end of the Tom Tom Club's set, the drummer announced that the band would be signing merchandise at the "signing area".. How Rock And Roll is that? 💀

Portishead, backdrop film towards the end of Machine Gun when the song goes into almost the Terminator music had David Cameron as a Terminator with evil red laser beam eyes.Good stuff.

Wow. Portishead were fucking brilliant.Beth was fantastic

Portishead. David Cameron Terminator

Factory™ wrote: Bring back Primal Scream's spirit of 2005 when they insulted the whole Pyramid Stage audience, refused to leave the stage resulting in the plug being pulled on them and called Basement Jaxx cocksuckers😄

Seconded.

The Primals are playing tonight before the Stones I think. So maybe, just maybe...

Debaser wrote:

Factory™ wrote: Bring back Primal Scream's spirit of 2005 when they insulted the whole Pyramid Stage audience, refused to leave the stage resulting in the plug being pulled on them and called Basement Jaxx cocksuckers😄

Seconded.

The Primals are playing tonight before the Stones I think. So maybe, just maybe...

Yeah Primal Scream are on at 7 til 8 pm as warm up for the Stones. Though there is then a one and a half hour wait til the Stones come on at 9.30pm so things could have gone a bit lukewarm by then . Apparently the Stones want a whole 90 minutes to set their stage up.

Debaser wrote:

Factory™ wrote: Bring back Primal Scream's spirit of 2005 when they insulted the whole Pyramid Stage audience, refused to leave the stage resulting in the plug being pulled on them and called Basement Jaxx cocksuckers😄

Seconded.

The Primals are playing tonight before the Stones I think. So maybe, just maybe...

Shades of 2005 again, Primals on now and Bobby Gillespie seems to be getting pissed off with the crowd's lack of enthusiasm. Repeatedly asking them to liven up and before Loaded he asked "Just what is it you wanna do? Commit suicide?" Think he's pissed/stoned/high

Gillespie just asked the crowd if someone had dosed them with valium

Really don't know why Primal Scream play Glastonbury, they never seem to enjoy it and Gillespie ends up insulting the crowd.Or they should at least stick to the Other Stage where they'd get more enthusiasm

Well things seem to pick up when the 3 girls of Haim joined them on stage to do backing vocals on last few songs- Rocks , Come Together and another one that i can't remember name of. They got there in the end but by that time it was the end of the set.

Hmm I missed most of Glastonbury yesterday as I was at another gig - Hard Rock Calling, on a cheap ticket (50 quid? bollox!). How many Stones songs did the BBC get? Do they have any repeat rights? I caught some of the Primals around 1am last night/this morning. 'It's Alright, It's Ok' seems to work better live than on record imho. The other clips looked fine too, but alas I didn't see any of Bobby's crowd-goading. Too bad.

Debaser wrote: Hmm I missed most of Glastonbury yesterday as I was at another gig - Hard Rock Calling, on a cheap ticket (50 quid? bollox!). How many Stones songs did the BBC get? Do they have any repeat rights? I caught some of the Primals around 1am last night/this morning. 'It's Alright, It's Ok' seems to work better live than on record imho. The other clips looked fine too, but alas I didn't see any of Bobby's crowd-goading. Too bad.

Yeah when BBC repeated a few Primal Scream songs later on they looked and sounded good but didn't sound and look so good when i watched the whole set live on the red button 7-8pm.Good editing by the Beeb i guess. Obviously they didn't repeat Gillespie's crowd goading but he definitely was getting arsey with the crowd a fair bit when i watched it live.He was always going to struggle against a crowd basically just waiting for the Stones though. I just think they shouldn't have taken that spot, should have played an(Other) stage.

BBC showed i think the last hour of the Stones, including the encore. I'd previously thought i'd read that the Beeb were only allowed by the Stones to show the first hour of the set but as it turned out it was the last hour which was a better idea really. Think it was about 9 songs that were aired -

Miss You Midnight Rambler 2000 Light Years From Home Sympathy For The Devil Start Me Up Tumbling Dice Brown Sugar

Encore

You Can’t Always Get What You Want (I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction

You can watch the hour or so the BBC showed here.Go to about 13mins in

The full Primals set is probably to be found somewhere on that site also

Think i've developed a soft spot for Primal Scream's bass player. Simone is her name? She's sweet

Factory™ wrote: Think i've developed a soft spot for Primal Scream's bass player. Simone is her name? She's sweet

Simone came from a crappy folky-indie band that struggled to sell out venues like London's Borderline. She basically auditioned and got the part. You'll find similar admiring talk of her on the Webadelica forum (where Mani occasionally logs in as "Mr Gary" to say hi). The general consensus is that she's cute and competent but the Scream fans miss Mani.

poor victor.

starting to very slightly lose interest in the returned. too many questions going unanswered for too long bores me. it's why i gave up on 'lost'.

missed the returned watching the xx at glastonbury now on red button

Poor Victor? what about poor Lena.. XX on BBC3 now, Nick Cave is on the red button where I am, Public Enemy were on it before him.. Am really liking the XX with their austere stage setting, very 1940s style...

XX VCR

The XX - Infinity on BBC3

this one mixes Chris Issac Lucky Game with New Order's Vicious Streak

Love The XX. Where's the love smiley?

Bobby Womack on West Holts, people.Keep the faith, Keep the hope

Brazil 3 Spain 0 - 48 mins.Time for bed goodnight

Saw the lovely First Aid Kit sing Emmylou ACOUSTIC just now.Not sure where if on red buttoN, bbc website, bbc 3, bbc2, bbc4 , iPhONE APP

bloodynora wrote: poor victor.

starting to very slightly lose interest in the returned. too many questions going unanswered for too long bores me. it's why i gave up on 'lost'.

Noo! There's some old Chinese proverb that goes: If you save a persons life they are your responsibility forever. By the um same token, if you get someone hooked on a tv series you have to keep watching it as long as they do. After all that seductive talk of Mogwai soundtracks and French-ness you can't just walk away!

I think we are getting answers. We know a lot more about Victor now. And the suggestion appears to be that each 'returned' person is someone who was killed - and not by accident. So it's as though they are back to haunt those who have done them wrong. Now there's a morality tale!

I got my biggest chill yet when the Helping Hand man did his "sing a song in your head" bit towards the end of the episode.

By the way that Chinese proverb is bollox and I think comes from a cheesy Kung Fu movie. Completely impractical for Doctors, Nurses, Firemen etc.

Super Sunday on QVC UK TV this weekend - we get a glimpse of...

And you thought Wayne Rooney's a big girl's blouse...

"Entrepreneur"!?!

Watched the full set of The XX at Glastonbury late last night ( was rather drunk and missed bits on Sunday night) WOW. Just brilliant. How does she get that guitar sound? Best guitar sound in music right now.

Debaser wrote:

bloodynora wrote: poor victor.

starting to very slightly lose interest in the returned. too many questions going unanswered for too long bores me. it's why i gave up on 'lost'.

Noo! There's some old Chinese proverb that goes: If you save a persons life they are your responsibility forever. By the um same token, if you get someone hooked on a tv series you have to keep watching it as long as they do. After all that seductive talk of Mogwai soundtracks and French-ness you can't just walk away!

I think we are getting answers. We know a lot more about Victor now. And the suggestion appears to be that each 'returned' person is someone who was killed - and not by accident. So it's as though they are back to haunt those who have done them wrong. Now there's a morality tale!

I got my biggest chill yet when the Helping Hand man did his "sing a song in your head" bit towards the end of the episode.

By the way that Chinese proverb is bollox and I think comes from a cheesy Kung Fu movie. Completely impractical for Doctors, Nurses, Firemen etc.

I WILL NOT ABANDON YOU.

the kids on the coach were killed by accident, weren't they? but all the returned were killed before their time...

yes, we do know more about victor. this is true.

there's a film that uses that chinese proverb, or a variation thereof, and i can't for the life of me remember what it is. that's going to really bug me now.

edit #1: is anyone watching the bastard americans yet?

edit #2: my post count is currently 321.

Was just happy to see the unflappable Victor get in a flap😂

Luther was good t'other night. The killer crawling out from under the bed and the bloke being pushed down through the ceiling (though not disimilar to the sort of scenario Frnak Spencer used to get caught up in 😂) from the attic was almost like horror movie stuff

bloodynora wrote: the kids on the coach were killed by accident, weren't they? but all the returned were killed before their time...

Well there seemed to be a suggestion that Lena used some sort of telepathic twin connection to harm/kill Camille (something happened on the bus involving Camille's panic attack, rather than the driver just fucking up). So maybe the other kids weren't intentionally killed but Camille was. And she's the one who is back. The other kids on the bus probably died before their time too but they haven't reappeared.

Does this hold water? (no flood related pun intended).

Debaser wrote: Well there seemed to be a suggestion that Lena used some sort of telepathic twin connection to harm/kill Camille (something happened on the bus involving Camille's panic attack, rather than the driver just fucking up).

i thought it looked more like camille was psychically sensing lena having sex, and that's what freaked her out. i didn't get the impression lena was connecting with her intentionally, or even knowingly. the link - feeling what the other feels? - seemed to happen when someone (the boy?) touched one of their arms or something the other night too. or maybe i've just dreamt that.

Debaser wrote: The other kids on the bus probably died before their time too but they haven't reappeared.

yet.

*peers over specs, winks*

'a field in england', the new film from director ben wheatley (kill list and sightseers) is released today - the first ever uk production to debut simultaneously in cinemas and on telly, dvd/blu-ray, and "VOD". whatever the fuck that is.

film4 tonight at 10.45pm.

full details on where and how to watch are here:

http://www.afieldinengland.com/screenings/#video

edit: oh. video on demand.

bloodynora wrote:

Debaser wrote: Well there seemed to be a suggestion that Lena used some sort of telepathic twin connection to harm/kill Camille (something happened on the bus involving Camille's panic attack, rather than the driver just fucking up).

i thought it looked more like camille was psychically sensing lena having sex, and that's what freaked her out. i didn't get the impression lena was connecting with her intentionally, or even knowingly. the link - feeling what the other feels? - seemed to happen when someone (the boy?) touched one of their arms or something the other night too. or maybe i've just dreamt that.

I agree. I assumed Camille sensed Lena getting jiggy.And the touching of the arm thing.

Erm, i actually missed the very start of the first episode a few moments but thought i'd seen somewhere that the reason the bus crashed off the edge was a combination of Camille going hysterical and Victor standing in the road. Wasn't he in the road and the driver swerved to avoid him?😕

bloodynora wrote: 'a field in england', the new film from director ben wheatley (kill list and sightseers) is released today - the first ever uk production to debut simultaneously in cinemas and on telly, dvd/blu-ray, and "VOD". whatever the fuck that is.

film4 tonight at 10.45pm.

full details on where and how to watch are here:

http://www.afieldinengland.com/screenings/#video

edit: oh. video on demand.

Video On Demand? No it is actually on Film 4 isn't it? 😕 My listings say it's on Film4 at 22.45. Will set video.

Factory™ wrote:

bloodynora wrote:

Debaser wrote: Well there seemed to be a suggestion that Lena used some sort of telepathic twin connection to harm/kill Camille (something happened on the bus involving Camille's panic attack, rather than the driver just fucking up).

i thought it looked more like camille was psychically sensing lena having sex, and that's what freaked her out. i didn't get the impression lena was connecting with her intentionally, or even knowingly. the link - feeling what the other feels? - seemed to happen when someone (the boy?) touched one of their arms or something the other night too. or maybe i've just dreamt that.

I agree. I assumed Camille sensed Lena getting jiggy.And the touching of the arm thing.

Erm, i actually missed the very start of the first episode a few moments but thought i'd seen somewhere that the reason the bus crashed off the edge was a combination of Camille going hysterical and Victor standing in the road. Wasn't he in the road and the driver swerved to avoid him?😕

yes.

Factory™ wrote:

bloodynora wrote: 'a field in england', the new film from director ben wheatley (kill list and sightseers) is released today - the first ever uk production to debut simultaneously in cinemas and on telly, dvd/blu-ray, and "VOD". whatever the fuck that is.

film4 tonight at 10.45pm.

full details on where and how to watch are here:

http://www.afieldinengland.com/screenings/#video

edit: oh. video on demand.

Video On Demand? No it is actually on Film 4 isn't it? 😕 My listings say it's on Film4 at 22.45. Will set video.

yes, it's available in a variety of different ways. on film4 at said time. and video on demand is what the mysterious VOD stands for.

Watched Field In England. Erm..... right, ok. Don't think even watching it again would leave me any wiser as to what it was all about. Still , you can't beat a bit of weirdness , alchemy , mushrooms and hallucinations set in an English field in the 17th century.

I don't watch much telly, but the documentary about Piper Alpha that was on last night was a bit special.

hello biggles. fancy seeing you here.

i ended up going out on friday and forgot to set up any recording, so failed to see the ben wheatley thing. oh well.

i did see 'before midnight' at the pictures. i always assume i'm going to hate the films in this series - they look so navel-gazey and i loathe weak-chinned cry-baby hawke - but then i'm always bowled over. this third one was very good too, i thought.

(and i drank booze and ate homemade bakewell tart ice cream while watching it. ALL cinemas should have these perks.)

mon dieu!

that was a bloody good episode of the returned, n'est-ce pas?

what IS going on? water in the coffin, dead people convention in the woods, power cuts, corpse-shagging - all kicking off, innit? i can't WAIT for next week.

bloodynora wrote:

what IS going on? water in the coffin, dead people convention in the woods, power cuts, corpse-shagging - all kicking off, innit? i can't WAIT for next week.

Hmm so the power station is flooded. Up until yesterday we didn't get that explanation for the previous flickerings. Water in the coffin - I suspect is Dam water. By corpse shagging I presume you mean Thomas who just won't lie down (well, except on Lucy's couch). Lucy the barmaid - who has recovered as I kind of expected as soon as we knew she wasn't dead - certainly has an interesting way of gleaning supernatural information. Beat that Sally Morgan! They had to end it on a sad note though with the parents who Camille had tried to comfort, hanging themselves as they presumably believed Camille's assurances that their son was "waiting for" them. On a more positive note, nice to see Lena recovering and getting back to her clothes-shedding ways. More please.

Run, starting at 10pm on channel 4 tonight looks interesting...

oh I've just had my 321 too now

Debaser wrote:

bloodynora wrote:

what IS going on? water in the coffin, dead people convention in the woods, power cuts, corpse-shagging - all kicking off, innit? i can't WAIT for next week.

Hmm so the power station is flooded. Up until yesterday we didn't get that explanation for the previous flickerings. Water in the coffin - I suspect is Dam water. By corpse shagging I presume you mean Thomas who just won't lie down (well, except on Lucy's couch). Lucy the barmaid - who has recovered as I kind of expected as soon as we knew she wasn't dead - certainly has an interesting way of gleaning supernatural information. Beat that Sally Morgan! They had to end it on a sad note though with the parents who Camille had tried to comfort, hanging themselves as they presumably believed Camille's assurances that their son was "waiting for" them. On a more positive note, nice to see Lena recovering and getting back to her clothes-shedding ways. More please.

they've been banging on about problems at the power station for weeks. FAIRE ATTENTION! re: the necrophilia, i meant simon and lucy, and serge and lena.

yes, i imagine you're right about it being dam water in the coffin. great closing scene. really looking forward to the denouement...

on a not entirely unconnected note, twin peaks-themed bar 'the black lodge' has just opened in canada. here's their bathroom.

Debaser wrote: Run, starting at 10pm on channel 4 tonight looks interesting...

there're a few good looking things coming up on channel 4. 'southcliffe' might be a bit of alright.

or equally, it might be shit. we'll see.

My grasp of the French language has been soaring. In sharp contrast to my grasp of what is going on, which has been plummeting. Though i wasn't in the least bit surprised when Simon came back to life again.

ah yes, where i said Thomas I meant Simon. It was too hot to sleep last night, no thinking power left. Maybe i haven't been paying attention on the power station thing. Obviously they have been investigating the lowering water levels of the Dam, and failing to find the leak, but last night I think they said the power generator was flooded, which I didn't see coming...Anyway er, it's the human stories that are the interesting bit (uh oh I'll be watching Eastenders next).

What about Victor, that scar on his arm.. Or is he starting to decompose...[eek2]

Cranelane wrote: What about Victor, that scar on his arm.. Or is he starting to decompose...[eek2]

i know, what IS that? poor, creepy victor.

is it the same sort of thing that was happening to lena's back? has she healed now because of serge's poultice, or because she's been away from camille?

Debaser wrote: the parents who Camille had tried to comfort, hanging themselves as they presumably believed Camille's assurances that their son was "waiting for" them.

incidentally, i thought this was stunningly done. the splicing of the scene, and the reveal. merveilleux.

something something bfi something st etienne something new release london trilogy something something witty comment.

link

too hot and tired to do a proper post now, soz.

bonne nuit, tout le monde!

Is it just me or does one of the often recurring music pieces by Mogwai sound like a straight rip off of the intro to Over by Portishead ? Still, they've done a great job with the music for the Returned. Really really good.

bloodynora wrote:

Cranelane wrote: What about Victor, that scar on his arm.. Or is he starting to decompose...[eek2]

i know, what IS that? poor, creepy victor.

is it the same sort of thing that was happening to lena's back? has she healed now because of serge's poultice, or because she's been away from camille?

That bonfire gathering that Lena came upon at the end, was it from them that the animals who drowned in the lake were fleeing from in a previous episode? The guy at the Helping Hand (Pierre?) is responsible indirectly for Esteben's parents killing themselves by encouraging Camille to reach out to the parents of the other victims looking for messages from their lost children..

Factory™ wrote: Is it just me or does one of the often recurring music pieces by Mogwai sound like a straight rip off of the intro to Over by Portishead ? Still, they've done a great job with the music for the Returned. Really really good.

haven't they just? the whole thing is so atmospheric and i think the music is a huge part of that. it also stands up by itself - i bought the album and it's incredible. another reason for a twin peaks comparison, there.

Cranelane wrote:

That bonfire gathering that Lena came upon at the end, was it from them that the animals who drowned in the lake were fleeing from in a previous episode?

yeah, maybe! what a fantastic closing shot that was. i'm assuming they're more 'returned' we haven't seen yet? the shots of the dead animals were wonderful too.

it's so fucking stylish.

Debaser wrote: Run, starting at 10pm on channel 4 tonight looks interesting...

Have kept up with this , this week. Pretty bloody good. Olivia Colman brilliant as ever in the first episode. The scene where she turned her boys over to the coppers- when they came to arrest them she was beyond outstanding. Don't think anyone would get away so easily with nicking iPhones from their place of work though. Second episode about the Chinese girl's troubles and third episode with the Richard character v compelling. Final part tonight. A grim and gritty view of Brixton.

Factory™ wrote: A grim and gritty view of Brixton.

Yes, not easy viewing. And a lot of the characters are less than easy to like. The reviewer in the Metro newspaper suggested that the lack of humour in the first episode meant it wasn't realistic. I guess that's a point you could have a good argument about.

Debaser wrote:

Factory™ wrote: A grim and gritty view of Brixton.

Yes, not easy viewing. And a lot of the characters are less than easy to like.

I found the Polish girl in the final episode last night likeable. Prob the most likeable character of the lot.

i am watching luther. well, i have been watching luther. i've watched all of them, from the start of series 1 up to the latest episode, over the course of this week, at the behest of el-j.

good, innit?

oh, the things i would do in an hour in a panic room with idris elba, a jar of honey, a tennis ball and night vision goggles.

Woman to Victor "Go on, get lost"

yeah get lost, Victor.On yer way now, there's a good lad.

No escape from the town then? That ain't good

Factory™ wrote: Woman to Victor "Go on, get lost"

yeah get lost, Victor.On yer way now, there's a good lad.

She might regret that yet. I was thinking when they first lost the power that people should try to hot foot it to that fancy Paris or somewhere for a bit of civilisation, but that ain't gonna work. I think this is getting a bit Sartrian now: the whole idea that "Hell is other people", as raised in Sartre's Huis Clos (No Exit), where people are locked in a room together for eternity, with no respite from one another. I guess one shouldn't be surprised at the French re-working one of their most controversial philosophers in an eight part spooky drama.

BBC1 22:35 (23:05 Northern Ireland) - Woody Allen: A Documentary.. Looking forward to this even though it's on past my bed time..

Ha!😂 😂 😂 Just watched this scene from Nighty Night again.Superb. Terry's "funeral" ( he wasn't actually dead). Look out for the bit featuring the song Alone by Heart, it's ACE.

Jill (West Country accent, remember) - "Not being funny but Terry would have expected you to all chip in today, 'else it just gets nasty"😂 😂 😂

New series of Phoneshop.

Bit self-indulgent I thought, and none of the characters played to their strengths.

Can only get better.

saw the latest wright/pegg/frost outing last weekend – the world’s end. very poor, i thought. a few belly laughs (and a nice running gag about band names) but mostly stale, lazy and wildly self-indulgent. wright's visual schtick is starting to feel somewhat dated to me. DIRE plot. and it’s the first time ever i’ve actively noticed feeling shut out as a female audience member.

great soundtrack though – takes me back to the sun-and-cider-soaked summer i left school myself. you can't really go wrong kicking something off to the strains of 'loaded'. and they play the sundays. THE SUNDAYS! my heart leapt at the opening chords. best moment in the whole thing for me.

all that said, with its themes of man-children, alcohol and nostalgia, i’m sure it will appeal to more than one nooler.

by contrast, i’ve also been watching ‘orange is the new black' on netflix. bloody brilliant.

bloodynora wrote: saw the latest wright/pegg/frost outing last weekend – the world’s end. very poor, i thought. a few belly laughs (and a nice running gag about band names) but mostly stale, lazy and wildly self-indulgent. wright's visual schtick is starting to feel somewhat dated to me. DIRE plot. and it’s the first time ever i’ve actively noticed feeling shut out as a female audience member.

great soundtrack though – takes me back to the sun-and-cider-soaked summer i left school myself. you can't really go wrong kicking something off to the strains of 'loaded'. and they play the sundays. THE SUNDAYS! my heart leapt at the opening chords. best moment in the whole thing for me.

all that said, with its themes of man-children, alcohol and nostalgia, i’m sure it will appeal to more than one nooler.

When i first saw a trailer for that i thought it was going to be set in the World's End pub in Camden. Is that pub still there? Not been in or near it for years. The film doesn't appeal to me that much.Seems like a stale idea for a film.

it's a mid-life crisis writ the size of the silver screen.

i'm watching this, repeatedly. the bit where the little girl says "i'm having piri-piri. I'M ALLOWED" (0:09) made me laugh until i cried and my insides hurt and i almost couldn't breathe.

Bit confused watching The Returned ad break. Is it English adverts with French subtitles? Or French adverts with English subtitles? Or French adverts with French subtitles? Or English adverts with English subtitles? Still, Victor is still an annoying little twat either way.

My money is on a second series.With ad breaks with English/French subtitled ads or French/English subtitled ads.Either way, Victor will still be an annoying little twat

ha!

have just got in so am having to wait for catch up. it's usually english ads/french subtitles though, non?

i just feel deeply sorry for victor now. despite him being incredibly troubled and possibly murderous. poor little speck. have you no HEART, monsieur groucotte?!

i don't know about a second series. i know how this ends, and it sounds like it's somewhat unresolved, but nowhere really to go either. if there is a second series, let's pester the powers-that-be for a smiley with a beret.

bloodynora wrote: ha!

have just got in so am having to wait for catch up. it's usually english ads/french subtitles though, non?

i just feel deeply sorry for victor now. despite him being incredibly troubled and possibly murderous. poor little speck. have you no HEART, monsieur groucotte?!

Funnily enough there is a story in my family that our surname possibly comes from France.

Was going to add my comment on the ending but that would be a spoiler if you ain't seen it yet. All i will say is that Mogwai track , as i've said before, is totally darling ripped off from the intro to Over by Portishead

Au Revoir, Madame Nora

mademoiselle, s'il te plait.

I didn't want to do a "spoiler" beforehand, but The London Standard indeed said on Thursday there would be a second series, now confirmed to be snapped up by ch4. Couldn't they have just wrapped the thing up a little neater at the end and left it at that? Exactly what are all the "dead" planning on doing? I felt somewhat validated (or some similar word that I can't think of)that we had a flood scene at the end, as I predicted before watching episode one. I wanted something a little more full-on mind you. Agree with the Portishead comments. I don't suppose there's enough of a tune there for Portishead to bother suing...

bloodynora wrote: mademoiselle, s'il te plait.

:gasp : Mais oui of course, my bad. Mademoiselle it is. Je Suis Desole, Mademoiselle

Factory™ wrote:

:gasp : Mais oui of course, my bad. Mademoiselle it is. Je Suis Desole, Mademoiselle

merci.

i thought that was a perfect ending. i do feel everso moved by julie and victor's relationship.

i think the turning point for me was when i stopped trying to work it out and just started enjoying it being beautiful and interesting and intriguing. i can only hope it doesn't go the same way as 'lost', where the writers clearly had no idea what was going on, either.

(i know i keep banging on about twin peaks in relation to the returned, but i was reading this week about how david lynch never wanted to reveal the identity of laura palmer's killer - that for him that wasn't what the series was about - but they had to do it, and in the middle of the second series, because of pressure from the network. even as 16 year old watching it, i knew that was when it fell apart. it's not always the destination that's important, it's the journey. *lights gauloise* *looks engimatic*)

Was that the town, flooded , we see at the end? For some reason my brain couldn't fully process the image . Maybe because I was still pissed but it seemed something less straightforward than that.

Guess it was the town , flooded.

Factory™ wrote: Was that the town, flooded , we see at the end? For some reason my brain couldn't fully process the image . Maybe because I was still pissed but it seemed something less straightforward than that.

Guess it was the town , flooded.

it was the town, flooded.

i was hovering on the brink between tipsy and hungover when i watched it, and indeed when i typed my thoughts on it. i think you can tell. today i'm just hungover. 💀

here's a link to sfx's list of unanswered questions:

http://www.sfx.co.uk/2013/07/28/the-returned-unanswered-questions/

and here's the lovely tv ad for the soundtrack:

(edit: that's gruff rhys doing the voiceover for a scottish band and their french-titled album, in english with a welsh accent, johnny, just to confuse you further.)

Thanks Nora. I get an urge to buy the soundtrack but then i think whenever i've bought soundtracks to things i've watched it's never the same as when you are experiencing the music with what it's soundtracking so dunno on that one for the moment.

Gonna have to watch last night's episode again.It's all a bit blurred.Seemed at the time as if 'La Horde' had let the dam flood the town because they'd not been allowed to take all the returned back.

Factory™ wrote: Thanks Nora. I get an urge to buy the soundtrack but then i think whenever i've bought soundtracks to things i've watched it's never the same as when you are experiencing the music with what it's soundtracking so dunno on that one for the moment.

i really cannot recommend it highly enough. maybe give it a twirl round spotify if you're in two minds. (mine's on vinyl or i'd make you a copy.)

i tell you what else i love: the titles. look at them. swoon.

not that je suis obsessed or anything.

Ah just watched again. Think in my drunken state thought Gruff Rhys ( as it turned out to be, thanks) was talking French in the advert.And there were French subtitles.Is the Portishead rip off one on the soundtrack? I keep expecting the drums to come crashing in like they do on the Portishead song.

La Horde wanted Adele and her baby ( and someone else? can't remember now.Oh, Toni and his bro in the basement) but didn't get them. Would the town still have been flooded had La Horde got all they wanted? Who knows.

The ending was fairly satisfying for me, quite climatic.A few unanswered things but there always is. C'est La Vie.

bloodynora wrote:

i thought that was a perfect ending. ...

i think the turning point for me was when i stopped trying to work it out and just started enjoying it being beautiful and interesting and intriguing.

I might buy that if it wasn't for those unanswered questions on your SFX link. They're good questions! Le Lake Pub.

they are good questions, but i'm not convinced the answers would add anything - in fact, i wonder if they might take something away...

Debaser wrote:

Le Lake Pub.

[beret]

Climactic ending I meant to say, not climatic doh

bloodynora wrote:

Factory™ wrote: Thanks Nora. I get an urge to buy the soundtrack but then i think whenever i've bought soundtracks to things i've watched it's never the same as when you are experiencing the music with what it's soundtracking so dunno on that one for the moment.

i really cannot recommend it highly enough. maybe give it a twirl round spotify if you're in two minds. (mine's on vinyl or i'd make you a copy.)

I just grabbed a listen to the album on Spotify.Not sure really.It's lovely and spellbinding in places but there's actually only a few tracks i recognised😕 The intro music and the last track to name a couple.As i've found with other soundtracks it's just not the same listening to the music in its own right.Spotify includes the Portishead rip off one which is The Huts - Version which doesn't seem to be listed on the tracklist on Amazon so may not be on your vinyl copy? You just get The Huts ? Don't think i'll buy the album but will prob listen again on Spotify.

New Dr Who will be revealed at 7pm BBC1 on Sunday. Dunno why i'm mentioning it as i'm not that fussed about Dr Who anymore anyway😕 Though i see Peter Capaldi is now in the (rumoured) running.That'd get me watching again over any of the other candidates

Kraftwerk at the Latitude festival BBC3 - NOW! Computerwelt

Cranelane wrote: Kraftwerk at the Latitude festival BBC3 - NOW! Computerwelt

Was it like THIS?

Debaser wrote:

Cranelane wrote: Kraftwerk at the Latitude festival BBC3 - NOW! Computerwelt

Was it like THIS?

The BBC player isn't available to me in my location, watching it last night what struck me is that you never get to see what their hands are doing behind their desks, I know that Ralf is playing live keyboards at some stages but not sure what the other three machine workers are doing...

Cranelane wrote:

The BBC player isn't available to me in my location, watching it last night what struck me is that you never get to see what their hands are doing behind their desks,

I had something like that problem before in Dublin. I can't remember if it was BBC player or something similar. I was asked for my post code so I gave a UK postcode and...bingo! But maybe that won't work for you, I don't know.

I was also thinking it would be nice to see their hands, and I wondered if we weren't seeing them because it's a bit of a charade.

Debaser wrote:

I had something like that problem before in Dublin. I can't remember if it was BBC player or something similar. I was asked for my post code so I gave a UK postcode and...bingo! But maybe that won't work for you, I don't know.

I was also thinking it would be nice to see their hands, and I wondered if we weren't seeing them because it's a bit of a charade.

That's interesting about the postcode trick.. Now I am watching Das Auto on BBC2, featuring musik by Kraftwerk amongst others. Volkswagon are planning to be the worlds leading car manufacturer by 2018..

Cranelane wrote:

That's interesting about the postcode trick..

Does that mean it worked but you don't want to say in case the British television police bust you in Cork?

Johnny Factory(TM), I'm not sure whether to be amused or just scared of you right now. You either have a great imagination that needs to be channeled through something creative (from which you might earn a tidy penny) or you're an unhinged Dr Who obsessive and a dangerous man! [eek2]

Just watched a thrilling first-round match on University Challenge (UK TV; BBC TWO, 20:00-20:30), followed by an even more thrilling final on Only Connect (UK TV; BBC FOUR, 20:30-21:00). The Francophiles beat the Celts, I'm afraid...

😈

Debaser wrote:

Johnny Factory(TM), I'm not sure whether to be amused or just scared of you right now. You either have a great imagination that needs to be channeled through something creative (from which you might earn a tidy penny) or you're an unhinged Dr Who obsessive and a dangerous man! [eek2]

Eh? No that thing imagining Malcolm Tucker as Dr Who was pasted from The Guardian.It wasn't my creation. I just posted it because i thought it was hilarious but then deleted it because that was 2 posts i'd now made regarding Dr Who and it was starting to look like i was a Dr Who fan.Which i am NOT. I didn't even watch the most recent series apart from the first episode

Bit of a backtrack there methinks. Your mate Mr Cameron would be proud!

Saw Danny Boyle's Trance at the weekend. Bloody good film, though a little confusing at times.

Not sure I'm convinced by James McAvoy in these types of roles though. Same also for Welcome to the Punch earlier this year where he was an on-the-edge maverick cop with a death wish. He's playing the lead in Irvine Welsh's Filth soon too - really, really can't picture him in that role at all after reading the book years ago. Will be interesting to see.

i thought 'trance' was truly terrible, although i can't remember why. oh yes, really REALLY good first two-thirds, and then it just descended into convoluted nonsense, didn't it? much like boyle's 'sunshine', actually. so frustrating.

anyway, i just wanted to say i like doctor who (the last series WAS shockingly bad, mind), and i think peter capaldi is a smashing choice. desperately sorry to see matt smith go, though - his performance was practically perfect in every way. i could wank on for ages about sci-fi in general and doctor who in particular, but i can't imagine anyone wants to see me get my geek on so i'll leave it at that.

El Jarvo wrote: Saw Danny Boyle's Trance at the weekend. Bloody good film, though a little confusing at times.

I liked it but [SPOILER]the fact that the guy we were meant to be rooting for (McAvoy), turned out not to be the good guy[/SPOILER] meant that there was a slightly hollow vibe at the end. But if you can watch it with a sightly detached approach then, yeah it's a fun ride.

I dont get much of a chance to sit down and watch tele but I did watch Stone Roses live at Blackpool on Virgin demand last night whilst ironing. Good performance that and a band that will never age.

Also finally saw the remaining episodes of series 3 of Mad Dogs. Yes its a load of nonsense but its entertaining nonsense and has a great cast.

Had a catch up session today/ tonight of Top Of The Lake. In total , 5 hours of viewing including tonight's episode. Pretty good series but starting to think all in one catch up sessions are not a good thing. Each episode ends up under digested and enjoyment of the series is slightly diluted .

On NetFlix Archer. Caught a bit of Hell On Wheels, a violent show about building the railroad in post Civil War American West. May watch that again.

A Rastafari delivering a sound system to the house opposite. Don't tell me it's going to be a noisy night?

Factory™ wrote: Had a catch up session today/ tonight of Top Of The Lake. In total , 5 hours of viewing including tonight's episode. Pretty good series but starting to think all in one catch up sessions are not a good thing. Each episode ends up under digested and enjoyment of the series is slightly diluted .

caught the last few minutes of last night's ep, which was enough to hear a lovely, and seemingly very apt, cover of 'joga'.

i intend to catch up with the whole lot at some point too.

bloodynora wrote:

Factory™ wrote: Had a catch up session today/ tonight of Top Of The Lake. In total , 5 hours of viewing including tonight's episode. Pretty good series but starting to think all in one catch up sessions are not a good thing. Each episode ends up under digested and enjoyment of the series is slightly diluted .

caught the last few minutes of last night's ep, which was enough to hear a lovely, and seemingly very apt, cover of 'joga'.

i intend to catch up with the whole lot at some point too.

Was slightly startled to find Holly Hunter is in it[:eek]

Pyrtwist wrote: Caught a bit of Hell On Wheels, a violent show about building the railroad in post Civil War American West. May watch that again.

I like Hell on Wheels. It's a bit dumbed down in places and some of the stories can be weak but the concept is good. They've a lot of scope to play with - racial tensions between black and white, the Native Americans, North vs South, etc. Just a pity it isn't made my the likes of HBO else it could be a lot harder hitting.

Same as Copper, which I think is BBC America? Nice idea in theory, but doesn't pull enough punches.

The Gatekeepers. Docu film about the Israeli intelligence agency Shin Beit. Couldn't get into it to be honest . Well made but a bit boring even if you're interested in the subject.

Shut Up And Play The Hits - docu music film about LCD Soundsytem's final concert.On Film 4+1 now. Haven't seen this before and throwing away the chance of an early night for a change to watch it so it'd better be good

Factory™ wrote: Shut Up And Play The Hits - docu music film about LCD Soundsystem's final concert.On Film 4+1 now. Haven't seen this before and throwing away the chance of an early night for a change to watch it so it'd better be good

Ah yes, this had a brief cinema release about a year ago. I bought the three-disc dvd of this a few months back. Still haven't watched it all. But what I have watched, I enjoyed. I caught LCD live four times in their all too brief career (well three times, plus a support slot for Daft Punk in Hyde Park 2007- it didn't feel like a proper LCD gig). I certainly never saw them play a 27 song set like they do on the DVD. At three and a half hours it's probably a little too long for a single gig, but it's a nice memento of a band that at times were just punk funk, and at times seemed to be touching on greatness.

Debaser wrote:

Factory™ wrote: Shut Up And Play The Hits - docu music film about LCD Soundsystem's final concert.On Film 4+1 now. Haven't seen this before and throwing away the chance of an early night for a change to watch it so it'd better be good

Ah yes, this had a brief cinema release about a year ago. I bought the three-disc dvd of this a few months back. Still haven't watched it all. But what I have watched, I enjoyed. I caught LCD live four times in their all too brief career (well three times, plus a support slot for Daft Punk in Hyde Park 2007- it didn't feel like a proper LCD gig). I certainly never saw them play a 27 song set like they do on the DVD. At three and a half hours it's probably a little too long for a single gig, but it's a nice memento of a band that at times were just punk funk, and at times seemed to be touching on greatness.

It's a great doc, isn't it? Really enjoyed that. Regret now never seeing LCD live - it looked like a great, funky fucking party. But i thought James Murphy came across, i dunno, slightly more serious than i imagined he'd be somehow but he's great.Hadn't known their final gig was 4 hours long.Blimey.

Very sad bit in the doc was near the end when we see Murphy alone in a cellar the morning after the final gig with all LCD's equipment packed up.The only noise is the humming of electricity and he breaks down in tears at the realisation it's all over. He really agonised over that decision to end the band.One tough fucking decision.

Yeah, like you say, they at times seemed to be touching on greatness.

When is THE RETURNED returning....i love the MUSIC in this!Quality. Watch very little TV these days.

I just watched Star Trek Into Darkness.

It was bobbins.

ROCKET MICK wrote: When is THE RETURNED returning....i love the MUSIC in this!Quality. Watch very little TV these days.

2015 i think😕

WHAT?

merde.

Balloons. Brilliant. New York I Love You, But You're Bringing Me Down, God they even swing briefly into Julie Cruise song from Twin Peaks at the start.

bloodynora wrote: WHAT?

merde.

Good evening, mademoiselle Nora

Coops wrote: I just watched Star Trek Into Darkness.

It was bobbins.

I really enjoyed it. I thought the story kept moving on a notch so that it never got boring. Too much action or too much story can make these sort of films tedious, but I really thought they got the mix of action and story about right. One justified the other. Also the bit at the beginning where they were being fired at with spears looked great in 3D.

Debaser wrote:

Factory™ wrote: Balloons. Brilliant. New York I Love You, But You're Bringing Me Down

Yep white ballons were a regular feature at the end of LCD gigs. It was one way of knowing when the gig was about to end if you wanted to beat the crowd out the door.

Factory™ wrote:

bloodynora wrote: WHAT?

merde.

Good evening, mademoiselle Nora

good afternoon, monsieur factoire.

i have been watching:

what remains - very good, looking forward to tonight's ep.

portlandia - all series on netflix, also very good. very very funny. and very intelligent without seeming so, which is a rare and brilliant trick. but how come whatshername out of sleater-kinney gets to be a really cool pop star AND a really ace comic actress? NOT FAIR.

last weekend i saw 'upstream color' at the pictures. it boggled my mind.

Just watched a little of the Star Trek movie. The brief scene where the blonde... lady... who strips off left me bewildered - even in 2013 - I would have loved to have been in the cinema, just to see the reaction of the movie-goers!

ROCKET MICK wrote: When is THE RETURNED returning....i love the MUSIC in this!Quality. Watch very little TV these days.

Just stumbled on THIS - with a bit about The Returned towards the bottom of the page. My understanding is that normally when someone does a soundtrack, they watch the screen and try to make the music match. But I get the impression that wasn't the case with Mogwai.

I've seen the first two episodes now and it's a beautiful-looking TV show.

Debaser wrote:

ROCKET MICK wrote: When is THE RETURNED returning....i love the MUSIC in this!Quality. Watch very little TV these days.

Just stumbled on THIS - with a bit about The Returned towards the bottom of the page. My understanding is that normally when someone does a soundtrack, they watch the screen and try to make the music match. But I get the impression that wasn't the case with Mogwai.

I've seen the first two episodes now and it's a beautiful-looking TV show.

it is a beautiful-looking show, and i think the music more than matches it. you're right about the process - the brief seems to have been to capture the essence of the programme, and for me it does exactly that.

"Mogwai had only seen a few English scripts for the drama before they started on the music. "We were aware of trying to keep it not as a typical soundtrack, more just music that doesn't necessarily do anything that has a bit of presence," guitarist John Cummings told the Quietus. That's underselling it a bit; there's no need to see the TV show (though I'd highly recommend it) to appreciate the subtlety of Mogwai's score. While the musical structures are often simple, continually recasting the motif featured in "Whisky Time"-- which plays as a coach-load of school children crashes over the edge of a winding cliff road in the first episode-- in xylophone, piano, and guitar, they push individual sounds to disquieting levels; the xylophone nursery rhyme-like tinkling that opens "Hungry Face" is so concentrated and piercing that it's quite painful to listen to, trilling at an unholy pitch, and again on "Fridge Magic", where slab-like bass shifts act as the foil to the xylophone's wandering curiosity. The way the repeated motifs falter matches how the presence of the undead in "Les Revenants" makes the electricity fizzle and splutter."

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17764-mogwai-les-revenants/

i'm finally catching up with 'breaking bad'. i saw a bit of one episode once a couple of years ago and it looked like a cliched violent drugs drama, which put me off, as did the ENDLESS fawning over it. oh, do they JUXTAPOSE the middle-aged middle-class white man with drug subcultures? HOW SUBVERSIVE. but now i've seen a season or two and i'm embarrassed of myself for being so stubborn and contrary. it's very good, isn't it? layered and sympathetic and morally ambiguous with some GORGEOUS cinematography chucked in here and there (i especially like the 'passage of time' skies). reminds me of nothing so much as the wonderful 'six feet under'.

JUXTAPOSE - good word , that

Debaser wrote:

Just stumbled on THIS - with a bit about The Returned towards the bottom of the page.

incidentally, zombies are apparently "the official monsters of the recession". i was reading something recently about their recent resurgence in popular culture. it wasn't this, but this will do. http://www.channel4.com/news/zombie-nation-economy-films-popular-culture-horror-tv

Factory™ wrote: Is it just me or does one of the often recurring music pieces by Mogwai sound like a straight rip off of the intro to Over by Portishead ?

just seen someone else say the same thing. ripped YOU straight off. swiped it wholesale.

TUT.

bloodynora wrote:

Factory™ wrote: Is it just me or does one of the often recurring music pieces by Mogwai sound like a straight rip off of the intro to Over by Portishead ?

just seen someone else say the same thing. ripped YOU straight off. swiped it wholesale.

TUT.

Good good.

Watched Neds on Film4 the other night . With subtitles ON , obviously . Wouldn't have had a bloody clue what was going on without them.

bloodynora wrote:

Factory™ wrote: Is it just me or does one of the often recurring music pieces by Mogwai sound like a straight rip off of the intro to Over by Portishead ?

just seen someone else say the same thing. ripped YOU straight off. swiped it wholesale.

TUT.

Who dat? You cheating on us with another forum? [:eek]

WOULD I? (yes.)

it's really interesting to see the different dynamics and group characteristics, actually. (can you believe someone posted something about the blue balls festival in lucerne and no-one so much as SNIGGERED?!) i MUCH prefer you uncouth lot. or maybe it's stockholm syndrome. tried the morrissey forum once - they are LUNATICS.

(oh, speaking of whom: moz book latest.)

what did you think of neds, johnny?

bloodynora wrote:

what did you think of neds, johnny?

I did think about answering that with a totally undecipherable Glaswegian insult but i won't haha!

Yep, very good powerful drama.Certainly not a waste of 2 hours.Great acting by the lead character, John.But i thought his fall from bright pupil to Non Educated Delinquent seemed very sudden once he'd met the Young Car-D gang.Though i guess the seeds were already sewn once he'd had the door slammed on him by the mum of the middle class lad he was developing a friendship with.

edit: oh and also could relate a lot to that growing up in the 1970s thing as i did myself though it was obviously never as rough round my way as Glasgow was.Though i did have my moments. I even remember slumping in front of the TV watching Robinson Crusoe as a kid just like the young John did.

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bloodynora wrote: :

what remains - very good, looking forward to tonight's ep.

Watched it all in one go this afternoon. It were good, aye.The house was the star etc etc

Anyone been watching the Sound Of Cinema series on bbc4? Good this week, looking at work of Morricone and how Badalamenti worked with Lynch to create those masterpieces including the theme to Twin Peaks.

Interesting to learn also that Lynch had wanted to use Song To The Siren in Blue Velvet but couldn't afford the license . Though he did later use it in Lost Highway.

Had a peak at Peaky Blinders . Those attempts at Brummie accents ,all over the shop 😄

i've been recording sound of the cinema, not got round to watching yet.

had a peek at peaky blinders myself, wasn't impressed, despite the (mostly) rave reviews.

Oops yeah peek not peak, but yeah Peaky Blinders is crap, agreed .

John Goodman and some other shouty blokes in Coen brothers films.

what AREN'T i watching now? american telly's back after the summer break and i'm like a pig in mud. modern family, parks and rec, nashville, elementary.

oh, and i've seen baz luhrmann's romeo + juliet about six times in the last week. golly, leonardo dicaprio was a pretty little thing back in the day, wasn't he? that film transports me back to the 90s with such ferocious speed i feel a bit travel sick.

Wow did anyone see Goldfrapp doing Annabel on Later just now? That was pretty special.

Keyboard player was a bit weird though and Jools rather strangely and annoyingly kept emphasising "frapp" every time he said Goldfrapp

Well i still seem to be persevering with Peaky Blinders, not sure why. Maybe just out of a sense of loyalty to Birmingham 😄 Though which are more dodgy - the accents or the haircuts?

Sound of cinema was great..Found out that one of my all time fav films The Birds,had no soundtrack!! I notice now of course Dont go to see many films now (bar alan partridge) but a lot of recent soundtracks on films and tv seem to have the atmospheric sigur ros type thing going on 😎

Factory™ wrote: Well i still seem to be persevering with Peaky Blinders, not sure why. Maybe just out of a sense of loyalty to Birmingham 😄 Though which are more dodgy - the accents or the haircuts?

The accents in it are atrocious. Chibs from Sons of Anarchy was in it this week playing an Oirishman - I got proper confused by his accent.

It's still not a touch on Boardwalk Empire, mind. Fuck all seems to have happened on the Boardwalk this series/season but it's so breathtaking to watch. Van Alden's discourse with Capone in his office this week was filmed beautifully (and I don't usually go gooey over cinematography and suchlike).

Anyone else watching Stephen Merchant's Hello Ladies? Absolute genius. Wasn't convinced it would work but three episodes in I can't really fault it. It's his delivery that makes it. This week's episode where he finally got a date was the funniest thing I've seen in ages.

I see Walking Dead is back with its usual cheerful opening episode. Zombies falling through the roof was quite impressive though.

Talking of zombies, I saw World War Z last week. Best Zombies ever. Makes the 28 Days Later zombies look as docile as those from the Evil Dead. The scene with them all making a man mountain outside the walls of Jerusalem was just plain stupendous.

El Jarvo wrote:

Factory™ wrote:

Talking of zombies, I saw World War Z last week. Best Zombies ever. Makes the 28 Days Later zombies look as docile as those from the Evil Dead. The scene with them all making a man mountain outside the walls of Jerusalem was just plain stupendous.

Really? Apart from them making the man mountain to climb the walls of Jerusalem i wasn't that impressed by them😕 Thought something like 28 Days Later/ 28 Months Later had far better zombies and were far better films. Didn't find World War Z that great all in all.Think it suffered from going for the 15 certificate.

Factory™ wrote: Really? Apart from them making the man mountain to climb the walls of Jerusalem i wasn't that impressed by them😕 Thought something like 28 Days Later/ 28 Months Later had far better zombies and were far better films. Didn't find World War Z that great all in all.Think it suffered from going for the 15 certificate.

Oh, the film is shit but I thought the zombies were just brilliant.

There's a piece on them in this month's Empire magazine which I've not bothered reading yet but apparently the whole Jerusalem wall thing was based on ants working together, or something (my better half told me).

Much scarier than the 28 Days/Months zombies, I thought. They just seemed to act utterly focused on biting something/anything that wasn't already a zombie. The case in point being that Jerusalem wall where they started jumping over to commit 'suicide' just to try and get near human flesh. They all seemed utterly driven!

Oh, and they seemed a lot faster than the 28 zombies too.

El Jarvo wrote:

Oh, and they seemed a lot faster than the 28 zombies too.

Well can't remember so well now as it's a while since I saw it at the cinema in June. Maybe they are faster than in 28 Weeks/ Months Later. But I just recall that scene in 28 Months Later when Robbie Carlisle is legging it to get from the farmhouse to the boat on the river . The zombies chasing him were bloody fast!

28 Months Later just seemed to have a bigger and better punch to it than World War Z

OoooH, excellent! Just seen that there's a new series of Him & Her starting this Thursday 21st Nov on BBC3. Apparentley it's the final series. I've watched all of the previous 3 series and loved it.If you've never seen it it's a bit Royal Family style as in all the action is inside the house ( or flat in this case) Russell Tovey is Steve and this actress Sarah Solemani that i don't think i've seen in anything else is brilliant as Becky. It's a sitcom about a lazy twenty something couple who rarely leave their flat. Becky's sister Laura is THE vilest and most horrible character EVER.

and Joe Wilkinson from 8 Out of Ten Cats etc is also in it...

Debaser wrote: and Joe Wilkinson from 8 Out of Ten Cats etc is also in it...

Yeah he's a good character in it.

Watched the first episode of the new series.A good start and this series shows promise.Becky's sister Laura is excelling herself in annoying nastiness.Funny though.

Bill Turnbull wrote: OoooH, excellent! Just seen that there's a new series of Him & Her starting this Thursday 21st Nov on BBC3. Apparentley it's the final series. I've watched all of the previous 3 series and loved it.If you've never seen it it's a bit Royal Family style as in all the action is inside the house ( or flat in this case) Russell Tovey is Steve and this actress Sarah Solemani that i don't think i've seen in anything else is brilliant as Becky. It's a sitcom about a lazy twenty something couple who rarely leave their flat. Becky's sister Laura is THE vilest and most horrible character EVER.

Please tell me I'm not the only person who thinks Becky is a doppleganger for our very own Bonz? In both looks and mannerisms. It can't be just me who thinks that! I said that to Bonz as soon as the first series aired.

Laura is Russell Howard's sister, isn't she? She had her own one-off sketchshow on BBC2 recently as part of their comedy firsts series. Wasn't particularly funny, mind.

Homeland

El Jarvo wrote:

Bill Turnbull wrote: OoooH, excellent! Just seen that there's a new series of Him & Her starting this Thursday 21st Nov on BBC3. Apparentley it's the final series. I've watched all of the previous 3 series and loved it.If you've never seen it it's a bit Royal Family style as in all the action is inside the house ( or flat in this case) Russell Tovey is Steve and this actress Sarah Solemani that i don't think i've seen in anything else is brilliant as Becky. It's a sitcom about a lazy twenty something couple who rarely leave their flat. Becky's sister Laura is THE vilest and most horrible character EVER.

Please tell me I'm not the only person who thinks Becky is a doppleganger for our very own Bonz? In both looks and mannerisms. It can't be just me who thinks that! I said that to Bonz as soon as the first series aired.

Eh?😕 Really? Cannot say i've ever for one minute thought Becky looks remotely like or has mannerisms like Bonzette. Sorry but you've got me scratching my head there, Al! Though to be fair i haven't seen Bonzette for years apart from a very brief exchanged hello in the Canterbury Arms before New Order at Brixton Academy May 2012.Really don't know on that one

Caught up with episode 2 of Him & Her then episode 3 which is available on iPlayer before it's on BBC3 this coming Thursday .

The Wedding ceremony, that was just hands over the eyes stuff . Brilliant . Laura is just , well, beyond words with her self obsession. The scene in the limousine when she sticks her head up through the sun roof and keeps shouting to any passer by that she's in a limo and starts hurling insults . She's just pure evil 😄

Got three hours sleep on Sunday evening, before the Giants were on Sunday Night Football (NBC, US TV station; Channel 4, UK TV station). Was considering switching off and going to bed again after the first two possessions - glad I didn't!

Got about three hours sleep before going back to work today. Not a chore when you have a job you enjoy doing...

question time from SCUNTHORPE. jewel of the humber. third least romantic place in the country, apparently.

Line Of Duty the other night. Brilliant. First in the new series and it left me wishing I'd watched the first series which I completely missed . Those closing scenes in this first episode , fuck!

Charlie Brooker's Screen Wipe "That's all we've got time for this week. Now go away" And Philomena Crunk ( Clunk?) is ace.Bit of a cop out though having the last in the current series just being a highlights of the series .

Vic and Bob in House Of Fools, it's sort of really really crap at times but still worth a look each week.

Inside No 9. You've just got to watch owt with Steve Pemberton and Reece Shearsmith involved in, haven't you.

Olympics Roulette: skiing, sledding, hockey, skis with guns = empty chamber (good). Ice prancing (figure skating ect) = loaded (bad).

Hate watching the filter broadcast of the games because I live on the other side of the world.

Womens Curling amazing stuff

Oh this is ace news.New series called W1A starting next week on BBC2 ( Tuesday night? Or Wednesday? not sure) From the makers of the excellent and hilarious Twenty Twelve. Not sure what the premise is but it appears to have a few of the lot from Twenty Twelve in, including the brilliant Jessica Hynes. Should be great.

Ah, seems it's a mockumentary of the BBC

Just finished Season 4 of Archer on Netflix. I feel so empty now thta I have to wait another year before season 5 appears.

Did any of you watch Jamaica Inn? I mostly enjoyed it though impossible to follow at times with the much documented mumbling dialogue problems.I put that down to just Sean Harris' character who just mumbled anyway regardless of sound issues. Loved Jessica Brown Findlay in it, thought she was fantastic. The opening scene in the final episode with the smugglers luring the ship to crash on to the rocks was pretty bloody good.Loved that dark 1821 Cornwall atmosphere captured in the series.And even Joanne Whalley was in it so what more could you want?

I have just now finished watching the last ever episode of Breaking Bad, we got the initial box set (1-3) at Christmas time so it's been sort of with me for the first 4 months of the year, it did take me a while to get into it but I am glad now that I persisted, wonderful stuff, so many highlights right up to the last episode.

Oi, Jessica, you be wreckin' them ships on them rocks tonight?

Out on Friday:

So Frank is now an American played by an Irish-German actor. Hmm.

Yeah i'd like to see that Frank Sidebottom film. Used to love Frank Sidebottom.Sadly missed.

Well i had a watch of the first couple of episodes of Fargo on Channel 4.Good .Not seen tonight's episode yet. Was curious to see how Martin Freeman coped with doing an American accent.He's ok actually.His character Lester is getting himself involved in a right pickle.

Rachael Neimann; University Challenge semi-finalist, Mastermind contestant and DandelionRadio.com broadcaster, is now a team captain on the (UK TV channel) BBC FOUR hit quiz, Only Connect (now in it's ninth series).

The show is brilliant. Carol Vorderman must have launched a law suit against the Beeb for not offering her the presenter role.

You can watch the wonderful lady in action now on the BBC iPlayer:

Only Connect - Series 9, Episode 4

Great Balls of Fire. Dennis Quaid made me think of Johnny Rotten.

Who needs the Lib Dems when we've got:

The EUROPHILES vs The software engineers

A defensive battle this week, you could say... (Or is that, what the Americans might say...)😕

Edge Of Darkness series repeat on Monday nights,BBC4. This BBC crime/political drama from 1985 seems to be revered as one of the Beeb's best ever .I vaguely remember being aware of it and all its critical acclaim at the time but never watched it for some reason so coming to it for the very first time after nearly 30 years. Perhaps famously known for Eric Clapton's repeating guitar riff that soundtracks many scenes.Watched the first episode.. intriguing though inevitably slightly dated i'll keep watching to see what all the fuss was about.Shame Joanne Whalley is killed in the first 10 minutes of episode 1

Unfortunately, Dandelion Radio's Rachael Neuman's Record Collectors failed to make to the final of Only Connect Series 9, but three teenagers who call themselves the EUROPHILES did.

A gripping final. A "defensive battle" as the Americans would say.

If you live in the UK and you missed it, you must watch it now - it's the law:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b048wskm/only-connect-series-9-13-the-final