New Order live @ Hammerstein Ballroom - NYC (USA) - 2005.05.05

Looking forward to a great show on Thursday night and meeting many NewOrder fans. I hope to make it to TGIF for a pint or two before the show. Be safe getting to the show and see you all there. To Spotnick - first couple of rounds are on me.:D

Can't wait. Less than 48 hours. Set lists look great from Cali shows, hope to meet many fans for pint or 2 before....

Just got back from San Francisco yesterday. My hearing is back to normal (no thanks to the chemicals). Can't wait for the 5th, looking forward to hooking up with some Brits! I'll be wearing an England soccer shirt and intend to be at TGIFs at 4:40 ish. Cheers, Pickles

I am coming to the NYC show from Connecticut!!!!!

YAY I had to buy a ticket through a damn broker, but I know that is going to be so WORTH IT!

It will be my first NO concert after being a fan since the Substance album came out!!!!!!!

Hello there. This is my first post as well. I love New Order, unfortunately I will not be able to come to New York to see the show. However, I have special request, I am not sure if it will be even possible.

Anyways, the opening band for the gig tommorrow is a band named Dragonette. They include two members of a band of an obscure Canadian band that I am also a big fan of called Flux a.d. Julie, the lead singer of Flux will be doing backing vocals, and their drummer, Joel is also the drummer for Dragonette. If it is at all possible, could someone please take some pictures of Dragonette's performance? I am not sure what Hammerstein Ballroom's policies on cameras are, but I thought I'd ask.

If anyone is able to grant my request, I will give you credit for the pictures, and if there is some sort of compensation that you need, we can discuss that. I would very much like to be able to put some live photos up on my website (http://fluxad.net) Flux a.d. is on hiatus, so live photos of the band are hard to comeby these days. It might be also interesting to note that the members of Flux involved in tommorrow's opener (I don't know much about Dragonette themselves) are influenced by New Order :).

On another note, it's unfortunate that New Order will not be playing Toronto anytime soon (if ever). I am fan of theirs as well, and I love the new album, as I did the last. If anybody can help me out with my request, please email me at david@2007.org I will check back in this forum as well.

Approximately 33 hours to go before New Order walks out onto the Hammerstein's stage. I can barely stand it...I'm totally useless here at work. I feel like one of those screaming teenagers anticipating the Beatles in 1964.

Unlike some of you, I've never seen New Order live. But I've been a fan of both JD and NO since the mid-80s (has it been 20 fucking years?!). First heard them in some little club in Jacksonville, Florida. It must have been '83 or '84. I was one of about 5 damn people in the place, and the DJ put on Love Vigilantes. I remember watching a cute blond with a goth new wave look dance to it, and later I asked the DJ what it was. Sometime later I remember asking a record store friend if Joy Division's albums were any good, and he replied: "Yes, but I wouldn't listen to them in the daytime."

Just thought I'd share. -jeff

Won't be able to go to TGIF's beforehand (damn work), but will be as close to the front as all you soccer hooligans will allow. So goddamn psyched, I might soil my skivvies. Since they added a YSF in Chicago, there's always hope that NYC gets an addition as well. *fingers crossed*

I am very very anxious right now about the coming show...

mainly, I am stressing about how to get as high as possible without blacking out and forgetting portions of the evening...

it is a delicate balancing act! gonna be a close one...

(wine is usually the best means to the ethanol portion of the buzz, BUT, they often only sell crappy lager in the clubs, so that makes things tough if you arrive too early... )

So here's a question for all you Manhattan-types...

My original plan was to drive down from Boston, park over at Liberty State Park, take the PATH to Manhattan and walk/take the train to 34th Street...

But if NO is on the stage around 9, they likely won't be finished until 11. The last PATH train leaves around the same time. So it might not be a good idea to park there - even though it's tempting and parking there is dirt cheap ($5 all day).

So is it feasible that I might find street parking in Manhattan in the late afternoon? Are there park and ride options that are fairly safe, but either in Manhattan or in Brooklyn/Queens? Someone mentioned to me that there is a large carpark on Roosevelt Island, which is accessible more or less all the time... any suggestions for the out-of-towner?

Raz Jazza wrote: But if NO is on the stage around 9, they likely won't be finished until 11. The last PATH train leaves around the same time. So it might not be a good idea to park there - even though it's tempting and parking there is dirt cheap ($5 all day).

My Jersey transit source tells me PATH trains run all night. However, there is a reduction of services late at night -- meaning you may have to wait longer, and go through Hoboken to get to JC.

Maybe more info can be found at http://mta.info

The PATH runs all night, but it's only about every 30 min's after 12:30. http://www.panynj.gov/path/PATH\_Schedule.pdf

If you're staying in Jersey, then I'd say park there, but if not, seems kinda a pain. Roosevelt Isl. is a pain in the ass to get to. Either that stupid tram or a subway stop that I think is nowhere near that lot, but I can't confirm. Brooklyn's too far from Midtown (20 min. minimum subway ride) and Queens I'm sure has options, but I can't speak for any.

Street parking isn't free in Midtown till after 7pm, I believe. But if you're willing to wait until then, the further West you go, the better your odds at finding free street parking. However keep in mind that you have the Jacob Javitz Convention Center in the 30s by the West Side Hwy, so you might want to go up to the W. 40s btwn 9th and 11th Aves. for your best shot.

cheers Drew - you are correct, the trains run less often (every half hour) but they do indeed run 24/7!

no worries on that front!

Hello all. Well, tomorrow is my chance at seeing one of my all time favorite bands in an amazing venue. But I'm not sure of how to even accomplish this. Just a little while ago I was Calafornia doing a PeaceCorps like program when I found NewOrderOnline. I was amazed at how committed and organized such a fanbase was. But what shocked me was that I saw New Order was playing a festival called Coachella in Sothern CA. I instantly bought tickets. After studying the bill later I found it was full of all these other names I know and love (e.g Wilco, Bloc Party, Autolux, etc...). But things didn't work out as planned and I abrubptly had to board a plane home to PA. I mailed my tickets to a New Order Fan I met online and asked for nothing in return. Now I'm home and I missed the ticketmaster sale due to work and I don't know how I'm going to get tickets, and more importantly, pay for them. My tickets I gave away could have easily gotten me three for this show, but I just gave them to someone who would appreciate them rather than being that jerk on ebay. I've decided I'm driving three hours to New York tomorrow to give it my best shot, but, hardly any money too my name (just namely a very large debt that I accumalated by doing the coffee cup on the roof of the car thing with my friends brand new laptop instead). So what I ask of you people (the ones with hearts and souls (I have a serious theory that all New Order Fans are this type)) is if you can help me out in anyway you can. I'm looking for tickets, If have extra tickets, or maybe know someone who does, please contact me at JKG12345@aol.com . I'm traveling with two die hard NO fans who also don't have tickets or much money (gas is expensive enough). If you can help in any way it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks you so much.

Sincerely, J.Kieran Garvey

Raz Jazza wrote: cheers Drew - you are correct, the trains run less often (every half hour) but they do indeed run 24/7!

No problem Raz. If you do find yourself in Hoboken, before or after the gig, it might not be wholly without meaning. Hoboken was the sight of New Order's first ever US gig. http://www.neworderonline.com/Live/ConcertList.aspx?BandID=1&Year=1980

Hoboken was also, I seem to recall, where NO laid down some early tracks with Martin Hannett, although I believe those recordings were ultimately not used.

Hope you can find a ticket, Keiran

My flight leaves in a few hours, can't wait to see the boys in action again.

see you all tomorrow @ TGIF? ok, then!

Raz Jazza wrote: So here's a question for all you Manhattan-types...

My original plan was to drive down from Boston, park over at Liberty State Park, take the PATH to Manhattan and walk/take the train to 34th Street...

But if NO is on the stage around 9, they likely won't be finished until 11. The last PATH train leaves around the same time. So it might not be a good idea to park there - even though it's tempting and parking there is dirt cheap ($5 all day).

So is it feasible that I might find street parking in Manhattan in the late afternoon? Are there park and ride options that are fairly safe, but either in Manhattan or in Brooklyn/Queens? Someone mentioned to me that there is a large carpark on Roosevelt Island, which is accessible more or less all the time... any suggestions for the out-of-towner?

If you are driving down I-95 why not park in Stamford/Greenwich etc and take the train into grand central? Trains run till late also.

Anyway, back from Chicago this afternoon. You guys are in for a treat if last night's show is anything to go by. A FANTASTIC experience that will stay with me for a long time. Was fun to meet up with so many people, before, during and after the show. Also, what a super building the Aragon Ballroom is, really interesting, had a real buzz about it.

Enjoy all, look forward to reading your reviews! COTCH

Raz Jazz - i believe your best bet is to drive into Hoboken, NJ and park. My girlfriend lives in Hoboken so I've gotten to know the area pretty well. I'll be heading into the big apple via Hoboken myself (e-mail me w/ cell # if you want. I'm going in early to enjoy the weather and pre-party well). I suggest once you're in Hoboken get to Washington St (it's the main drag). Go to 13th St (MAxwell's coffee shop and pub is on SE corner) and head east (toward city and water). You'll see a large construction site on the water (was old Maxwell's coffee plant), go south and toward water. You'll find plenty of parking for free. walk back to Washington St. head down town to path.

--- I hope this helps.

TAxi back to Hoboken about $25. NewOrder in NYC, at Hammerstein, on beautiful early spring nite, w/ NewOrder after party at Hiro w/ DJ Hook = PRICELESS!!!!

Set list from Chicago?

is there any hope for an "everything's gone green" in nyc?

didn't think so.

regardless of set list, tomorrow night's energy level is going to be off the hook....pun intended.

t minus 22 hours!!!!!

JP

Wow, thanks guys. Good advice all around. I think I will do Liberty State Park, Todd but thanks for the suggestion. cotch, I may try the Stamford train another time - who knew of all the options?

I am hyped about the show but a little put out as it seems we won't hear The Perfect Kiss - one of the all time best NO tracks! Not to worry tho', this will easily be the best show I've been to in years.

Anyone here into ear plugs? I've never used 'em but some friends of mind swear you can hear the mix better. I stuck my fingers in my ears at a Graham Coxon show and when I did, I could hear his solos - otherwise it was all pretty garbled...

Anyone in the city early & up for a martini lunch I'll be at the Ava Lounge (avaloungenyc.com) 210 W. 55th St., around 1:30 PM (really cool spot) and then to Cantor Roof Garden "bar" at The Metropolitan Museum of Art. It's a great little known drinking spot w/ amazing views of Central PArk (also nice pick up spot). It closes at 4:30p. If up for meeting e-mail early on 5th or just come on out. I'll be the one humming No (all day long).

Raz Jazza. I've done the Boston to NYC drive and park thing many times. Stamford Metro North can be quite the blessing. Never thought about the liberty park place, could be good as well. A warning to you though if your coming in the afternoon, traffic can be a motherfucker around NYC/Jersey during rush hour. The Stamford train way will cost you parking, and round trip trains (which stop at 1:30a.m, but start up again at 5:30, a mere 90 minutes after last call), but you'll be saving on the elevated stress levels. Afternoon New Haven line Metro North trains often have a "bar car" where one can purchase and enjoy adult beverages as well.

Psyched for the show @ Hammerstein. Although I'm 28 (soon to be 29) years old, this will be my second time seeing New Order. Yep, got to see them @ Meadowlands Arena at the ripe young age of 17 in support of the "Republic" album. I believe Sunscreem and 808 State were the support.

I can't wait, almost couldn't get tickets, but finally got a General Admission ticket.

Anybody know if there are any other opening acts aside from Dragonette? I have yet to hear them and hope they are decent because I will definitely be antsy waiting for NO.

Marc Horowitz wrote: Yep, got to see them @ Meadowlands Arena at the ripe young age of 17 in support of the "Republic" album. I believe Sunscreem and 808 State were the support.

I was there, too, Marc! Sunscreem was great and 808 was a wonderful surprise -- they weren't listed on the ticket, as I recall. I can't remember whether Graham Massey played Spanish Heart -- I don't think so. I do remember Cubik.

The Chicago set seemed like a real good one. I hope tonight's will be along the same lines.

I'll be rolling in around 7:20 from Philadelphia with my gf. I'll be in khakis (from work) and the Green N.O. Ceremony shirt (which I actually got before the tour). we have stnading on the floor....the final stop on the tour for me. To paraphrase Meatloaf, "Four out of five ain't bad".

Who's Joe?

I highly recommend that you do not drive into the city. Also, for those of you going into Grand Central Station, see if there is a train you can take into Penn Station from your location. The ballroom is right around the block from Penn Station. I'm sure a lot of the other locals have it covered, but feel free to ask for directions or suggestions. I'll be coming in from Newark, NJ via the PATH as well. I'll check this thread every hour or so till 3.

Is parking that bad near the venue? or is it just a shady part of town? Am leaving in a little over an hour if anyone has suggestions. Thanks.

Todd

Greetings, Looks like doors open at 6:30pm (Is this a matinee show?) Is that normal for this venue ??

Anyone got any insight as to when the boys will hit the stage ? I've never heard of the support act and so might give it a miss. I've been a fan since my sister brought home Blue Monday when it was first released (Thanks sis) but have never been able to see them live so this is kind of special for me :-)

Regards, Mike.